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What is the best way to speak/listen Japanese without buying a plane ticket to Japan?

>> No.5045974

op here learn how to speak/listen*

>> No.5045981

Listen - obviously the movies you can leech of the internet for free. I wouldn't recommend watching the anime because you would sound so cartoonish when you speak.

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>> No.5045992

what about rosetta stone... is that at all effective?

>> No.5046017

>>5045992
No. It's only good to learn the rules.

If you want to SPEAK Japanese you need to have tons of input.

>> No.5046022

>>5046017
input as in a teacher/tutor?

>> No.5046170

>>5046022
japanese people. tutors will insist in speaking english to you.

>> No.5046206

>>5045986
haha that's pretty awesome if anyone actually fell for that

>> No.5046276

>>5045986
Is it bad that the thing I find most rage-worthy in that is "romaNji'?

>> No.5046290

>>5045986
never fails to crack me up.

>>5046206
That's pretty much exactly what you see in language-learning forums and even classes 90% of the time. Check out thejapanesepage.com, that site is full of people like that. That's probably the main reason why so few people in the west speak that language.
The most common variation is that a lot of those losers don't insist on watching stuff with subs, but instead say that watching films (but especially anime) in Japanese is useless, or even harmful for your language skill.

>> No.5046317

>>5045986
Watching subbed anime is better than not hearing the language at all. Watching stuff un-subbed is also prettymuch useless until you reach the point where you can at least get a vague idea of what's happening.

>> No.5046332

>>5046317
I've read somewere that you need to know about 200 phrases to understand 70% of anime. Seems about correct.

>> No.5046372

Browse 2ch

>> No.5046383

>>5046372
i dont think that reading 2ch has anything to do with speaking/listening...

>> No.5046408

>>5046290
>>5046317
QED

>>5046332
>I've read somewere that you need to know about 200 phrases to understand 70% of anime
That's me not too long ago.
>Seems about correct
I can second that. At least if we're talking about kids stuff and moe shit.
In Spice and Wolf, I used to understand basically everything Horo said, but close to nothing when Lawrence started talking about economics stuff.

>> No.5046414

op here

ive been doing rosetta stone for a few days now (skipping all of the writing sections) and it does help with sentence structure and most of the basic vocab... but it does take a bit of analysis to comprehend what they are trying to teach you... some of the time it isn't clear at all what they are teaching... but i do feel it is helping

>> No.5047702

bamp

>> No.5047707

Eat a Japanese person's raw heart

>> No.5047711

>>5046414
>rosetta stone

Quit that shit right now.

www.guidetojapanese.org
http://rapidshare.com/files/146235528/all_about_particles.rar
www.polarcloud.com/rikaichan
www.readthekanji.com
http://ichi2.net/anki/
www.smart.fm
http://www.hellodamage.com/kanjidicks/main.htm
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=K9I309GU

>> No.5047796

I leaned English like this:
1. Got into a school (or couse)
2. Consumed evrything interesting (even 4 chan ^^)
And now I can have a conversaiton with English people.

>> No.5047808

>>5047796
すごいすごい！

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