Remember when Kojima was saying that he wanted to make a game that challenged a major gaming taboo? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l98ruIHmcZ4#t=00m37s Well, I think he succeeded.

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Anonymous Mon May 3 08:25:51 2010 No.5030960 [Reply] [Original]

Remember when Kojima was saying that he wanted to make a game that challenged a major gaming taboo?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l98ruIHmcZ4#t=00m37s

Well, I think he succeeded.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:27:51 2010 No.5030969 lol wtf am i watching?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:28:51 2010 No.5030971 I want to play this game, purely for the Monster Hunter island....

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:31:51 2010 No.5030986 Nice slut undergarments

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:32:51 2010 No.5030989 File: 29 KB, 272x310, wut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What am I looking at /jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:32:51 2010 No.5030991 Nothing really. Kojima trolled the fanboys once again, there's nothing to see except some forced drama.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:33:51 2010 No.5030997 I almost expected her to piss herself when he was interrogating her.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:33:51 2010 No.5030998 I don't get it. What's the gaming taboo?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:34:51 2010 No.5031000 Kojima confirmed for pedo.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:34:51 2010 No.5031001 >>5030998 It's on a beach.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:34:51 2010 No.5031002 >>5030998 Rape-simulator. God, I'll never get that laugh out of my head.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:34:51 2010 No.5031006 >>5030998 She is 16 for starters/

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:35:51 2010 No.5031011 >>5031006 And? There really isn't anything shocking there. I mean, if had slit her throat, that would've been something different.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:36:51 2010 No.5031012 At first I was indifferent, but 2:16 onwards killed me...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:36:51 2010 No.5031016 >>5031006 16 is A-OK in civilized countries.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:37:51 2010 No.5031018 >>5031016 >>5031011 It's a very borderline age. And chasing her in her underwear and putting the knife in her throat leads to interesting imagery, even if nothing ACTUALLY important happens.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:37:51 2010 No.5031020 >>5031006 Ewww too old.

>>	(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ BOOF ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Mon May 3 08:42:51 2010 No.5031039 wait, is peacewalker out? Also, HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:42:51 2010 No.5031042 >>5031020 Yup.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:42:51 2010 No.5031044 What the fuck did I just watch?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:44:51 2010 No.5031055 >>5031018 Not really. I bet I have seen such scenes in RPGs a dozen times. It would be something else if he raped her or killed her in with some bloody finishing move

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:47:51 2010 No.5031067 >>5031055 You bet? Give me a couple underwear chasing scenes where you hold her under knifepoint.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:49:51 2010 No.5031077 >>5031067 Just because she's in underwear doesn't make it a taboo. What's next? Frogmen, but in underwear? OMG TABOO SELL GAMES SELL GAMES

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:49:51 2010 No.5031081 >>5031018 >>5031067 >knife That is clearly a stun-rod

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:50:51 2010 No.5031084 IT IS NOT A KNIFE IT IS A STUN ROD IT SAYS RIGHT THRE ON THE SIDE.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:50:51 2010 No.5031085 >>5031077 I am not if this is even the 'taboo' scene, but underwear is an issue. Not for you or me, obviously. But MGS is a more widespread title.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:51:51 2010 No.5031090 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuiFTOcCTc Good ending Owari

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:51:51 2010 No.5031091 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFidLwgqpt8&feature=related This is the real taboo

>>	(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ BOOF ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Mon May 3 08:53:51 2010 No.5031100 >>5031084 I'd let snake sneek up behind me and hit me with his stun rod

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:53:51 2010 No.5031101 >>5031090 oh wow

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:54:51 2010 No.5031105 >>5031090 Hey wait, since Big Boss is sterile he can cum inside all he wants.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:55:51 2010 No.5031108 Quick! Someone send this to CNN!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:55:51 2010 No.5031112 So what ? A 16 years old girl is having consensual sex with an older man ? Big deal. In real life, most girls lose their virginity much sooner. Only feminazis will find something shocking or taboo in this.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:58:51 2010 No.5031120 >>5031105 Enjoy your AIDS?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:58:51 2010 No.5031121 Didn't Kojima was friend with some eroge producers? Maybe it's his take on the loli issue in a discrete way, so he does not lose his credibility in mainstream gaming... (Not saying his games are good, anyway)

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:00:51 2010 No.5031130 I just checked Wikipedia and apparently the age of consent is 16 or lower in entire Europe and most of United States too. Only some backwards shithole states have it any higher.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:01:51 2010 No.5031134 >>5031130 And you realize this only now ? The age of consent in Japan is 13, btw.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:01:51 2010 No.5031136 File: 42 KB, 240x320, 1263603902114.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Dino's theme song? Fuck yes.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:02:51 2010 No.5031139 >>5031121 > (Not saying his games are good, anyway) >Not saying ZoE2 is one of the greatest games all time

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:04:51 2010 No.5031148 >>5031134 That's the federal minimum age of consent. Most prefectures set it higher; ~16 usually.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:05:51 2010 No.5031153 >>5031130 Well yeah. People are only riled up about CHILD PORN and ＶＩＲＴＵＡＬ CHILD PORN. Not too many people care about young people having sex except angry old women.

>>	MolesterJim Mon May 3 09:07:51 2010 No.5031163 Pfft. Kojima always had jailbait. Snatcher and Policenauts too. Here, it is just a bit more blatant.

Anonymous Mon May 3 09:08:51 2010 No.5031166

>>5031153
And I bet only angry old men then have to pay for the babies or even worse for abortions because retarded youngsters had to play around with their genitalia even though they weren't mentally ready for it yet. The result of this are two young persons without a future, a child without a future and lots of money transfers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:09:51 2010 No.5031171 mm delicious mizuki nana's voice

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:09:51 2010 No.5031172 File: 284 KB, 486x416, yukari yuyuko gossip.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5031148 >he's done research into this

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:10:51 2010 No.5031174 so does the bonus mission come with the main game or is it some extra bonus you have to buy the cd to get or something

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:10:51 2010 No.5031176 >>5031163 In this instance, people will actually play the game.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:11:51 2010 No.5031179 >>5031174 It's in the game once you finish it, apparently.

>>	MolesterJim Mon May 3 09:11:51 2010 No.5031181 >>5031176 ...Good point.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:12:51 2010 No.5031185 >>5031166 >even though they weren't mentally ready for it yet If your 16 year old isn't ready, you failed them as a parent and need to be euthanized.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:14:51 2010 No.5031192 >>5031091 Again I can't see any taboo.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:15:51 2010 No.5031198 >>5031090 >もう終わりなの？ Oh burn

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:15:51 2010 No.5031201 Wasn't there a delicious loli shower scene in Snatcher ?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:15:51 2010 No.5031203 >>5031185 If your 16 year old is a slut, you failed them as a parent and need to be euthanised. Painfully.

>>	MolesterJim Mon May 3 09:16:51 2010 No.5031205 >>5031201 Not loli, but she was 15 or so.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:16:51 2010 No.5031207 File: 57 KB, 1393x628, Age_of_Consent.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] South America ftw huehuehuehue

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:18:51 2010 No.5031212 >>5031205 I just found the info I didn't remember. She was 14 in the japanese version but her age had become 18 in the english version...

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:18:51 2010 No.5031215 >>5031207 brazil is basically thailand

Anonymous Mon May 3 09:18:51 2010 No.5031216

>>5031185
But that's not how life works and in our times a break-up after marriage is much more likely to happen than a successful marriage and a functional family structure. And the children of these generations will get children themselves and at some point you won't be able to fix the issue anymore and will have to say welcome to communism and state-sponsored full-time education because adults can't function as parents any longer and someone must start to do something to slow down the degeneration of society.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:24:51 2010 No.5031235 >>5031216 >It's the children's fault their parents fucked up

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:25:51 2010 No.5031239 >>5031207 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1891_Age_of_Consent_Act Orthodox Hindus argued that it violated Hindu rite "garbadhan," which obligated Hindu girls to have intercourse with her husband within sixteen days of her first period. lol India

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:27:51 2010 No.5031249 Why are they glowing?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:28:51 2010 No.5031252 >>5030960 >major gaming taboo Shitty controls? It's painful to watch.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:28:51 2010 No.5031253 >>5031239 Them Hindus man, they have all sorts of silly laws. Luckily most sane people disregard all that shit nowadays.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:29:51 2010 No.5031255 File: 24 KB, 177x171, eirin you're fucked.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >state education is communist Tell me more, /new/fag.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:30:51 2010 No.5031260 >>5031252 Perhaps the Rape Laugh in Loop?

Anonymous Mon May 3 09:35:51 2010 No.5031280

>>5031134
>>5031148

jesus christ, it is NOT the age of consent. There's a national law that sex with a girl less than 13 is treated as a crime as bad as rape. That does NOT mean that 13+ is good to go, it just might be treated as a minor crime to rape in some places.

Anonymous Mon May 3 09:40:51 2010 No.5031297

>>5031280
Uhh, yes, that's what I said. Read it again.
>That's the federal minimum age of consent. Most prefectures set it higher; ~16 usually.
The federal minimum meaning, 'You cannot set it lower than this', and most prefectures setting it higher meaning '13+ isn't good to go everywhere'.

And every country with an age of consent generally has it so that having sex with someone under the age of consent counts as statutory rape. This isn't Japan-specific.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:40:51 2010 No.5031298 Why there are so many moralfags in this thread?

>>	Aya Shameful !I4IrJba9Qw Mon May 3 09:41:51 2010 No.5031306 File: 25 KB, 300x410, tony_blair_narrowweb__300x4100.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5031207 I lol'd at america

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:41:51 2010 No.5031307 >>5031298 they have nothing better to do like the rest of "us"

Anonymous Mon May 3 09:46:51 2010 No.5031332

>>5031255
With full-time education I had state-sponsored bordering schools in mind for every eligible child and going on from kindergarten to University. In the beginning it could be mixed with home visits at weekends and of course that's only for good behaving kids and parents.

Also should any kind problems occur then the state will have the right to assign social workers to snoop around 24/7 at your home and should you refuse to cooperate there will be fines or jail-time for unsocial behavior.

Later on they could easily get rid of any remaining family bindings and run a centralized pre-planned society, in which you as individual are not allowed to chose your profession and plans for the future on your own because the state will do it for you, supported by scientific means to maximize the efficiency of the community. Of course.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:49:51 2010 No.5031346 File: 24 KB, 311x311, 1272268546603.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5031332

Anonymous Mon May 3 09:50:51 2010 No.5031355

>>5031332
>Later on they could easily get rid of any remaining family bindings and run a centralized pre-planned society, in which you as individual are not allowed to chose your profession and plans for the future on your own because the state will do it for you, supported by scientific means to maximize the efficiency of the community. Of course.
So what do you do when:

>People refuse to work in large numbers
>People are just lazy and do too little work in a profession they don't give a shit about to be efficient
>People run away to Western Germany

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Mon May 3 09:51:51 2010 No.5031356 Makes RapeLay look like a pile of puke.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:53:51 2010 No.5031365 File: 48 KB, 600x471, putin world.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5031355 >Terminate with extreme prejudice This also helps avoid overpopulation.

Anonymous Mon May 3 09:55:51 2010 No.5031372

>>5031355
No work = no life
Lazy = won't happen on a bigger scale because of indoctrination from birth with stick & carrot tactics, exploitation of social pressure, benefits system for socially adept citizen and the incorporation of psychotropic drugs in daily life.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:57:51 2010 No.5031383 >>5031372 People are inherently lazy. If you punish them for it, they will either hide it better or blame other people for the shortfall. See: Maoist China, Stalinist Russia.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:00:51 2010 No.5031393 >>5031365 This pic... is the best pic.... ever....

Anonymous Mon May 3 10:01:51 2010 No.5031398

>>5031383
Not only this, but if there are punishments for laziness then supervisors will deliberately find ways to underrepresent hard-working citizens so that they get Exterminated, so that their own positions are unthreatened.

If someone raises the bar then everyone else has to jump higher, so why would they let them?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:02:51 2010 No.5031403 >>5031393 It's even better with the associated "As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where do they go? It's Alaska. " quote.

Anonymous Mon May 3 10:08:51 2010 No.5031426

>>5031383
There are enough psychological instruments to exploit group dynamics to ensure that everything goes the way as planned. Also if you show a good work ethic you will get your benefits and goodies, free sex would be an example.
In the later stages people will be assigned to areas they are inept to. And in the worst case though right now still a little sci-fi-ish, the state will have the ability to breed mindless drones for the lesser works like in BNW and areas that afford a higher intellect will be filled with the drugged and indoctrinated by stick & carrot pre-planned society.

The methods work perfectly, just look at fanboys, they will eat anything from the ones they adore as long as they keep believing and get their goodies.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:12:51 2010 No.5031435 >>5031426 See >>5031398 People will fake industriousness to get rewards and do away with anyone who is actually industrious because they pose a threat to their situation.

Anonymous Mon May 3 10:15:51 2010 No.5031444
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>>5031435
Socialism is based upon an optimistic view of human nature, which is why it doesn't work in real life.

Although you could say the same for modern day capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:17:51 2010 No.5031447 /jp/ - Political Ideology/General

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:19:51 2010 No.5031457 >>5031444 As a communist, I'm inclined to agree. Socialism doesn't work unless you use force.

Anonymous Mon May 3 10:22:51 2010 No.5031466

>>5031435
Well that doesn't really matter because the majority will not only buy it but adapt quickly like they always do and within a very few generations you will have the total controlled society. Similar methods are being used in the parent-children relationship or with taming of animals.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:22:51 2010 No.5031471 >>5031457 But the application of force needed to ensure a total socialist society functioned mostly as planned, you'd need literally omniscient and uncorruptable enforcers.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:24:51 2010 No.5031478 >>5031090 Metal Gear: Pedo Walker.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:25:51 2010 No.5031481 >>5031207 The REAL difference between America and Europe. Spain seems like the best place for pedos. Low age of consent and still reasonably first-world.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:25:51 2010 No.5031482 Take this discussion elsewhere. Or use sage so the thread doesn't bump.

Anonymous Mon May 3 10:25:51 2010 No.5031483

>>5031466
I don't doubt that they will adapt to it, but what I do doubt is that it will actually hold together. People will conspire against people they don't like (e.g. people they are jealous of because they do good work, lots of work, enjoy what they do, are better liked by the party than them etc) to get them either exterminated or sent to a concentration camp or whatever. Meanwhile they will keep quiet about other people's sloth and especially their own, or will at least use it as blackmail material.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:27:51 2010 No.5031488 >>5031481 >implying people are pedophiles for liking 13 year olds, and not ephebophiles http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia

>>	None !NACK.rrrr. Mon May 3 10:28:51 2010 No.5031493 So... snake is a rapist now? Cool.

Anonymous Mon May 3 10:30:51 2010 No.5031500

>>5031426
Who would actually benefit from your ideology?

These systems are ideologies that have an ultimate goal, usually the pursuit of happiness for the populace as much as it can. Your society would be geared towards "production"... with what goal? Nobody would benefit from your society, it would be a dystopia for everyone, work for the sake of working.

The end result of your ideal should in the first place be something man will stand behind, i.e. they will be better off with. So more freedom, a higher standard of living, etc. If your society is not working towards that goal, then no matter how much force you use, if the given number of people not benefitting is large enough, they will overthrow it and your society will crumble.

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon May 3 10:30:51 2010 No.5031502 >>5031493 Ever since he raped Raiden.

Anonymous Mon May 3 10:31:51 2010 No.5031503

>>5031471
Corruption isn't something to be afraid of in the view of the system. Corruption will be always present, no matter the system or ideology and you also have corruption today in the highest spheres of society.
Keep in mind it will be harder for rogue elements in such a system by modern standards with the technological level available and soon to come.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:31:51 2010 No.5031505 >>5031488 You meant hebephiles. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia Although it could be argued that 13 year olds may be mid adolescents, if said persons were very early pubescents.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:32:51 2010 No.5031507 >>5031488 >implying anyone but some scholars make that distinction >implying if you give it a different name it will make any difference in acceptance by society at large

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:34:51 2010 No.5031517 >>5030958 h + T P : // A T . k Ì m m o A . $ € /

Anonymous Mon May 3 10:34:51 2010 No.5031519

>>5031500
Socialist societies are always indoctrinated with ideologies and goals. The system defines it and the majority buys it. Just like any other ideology, belief-system or religion. It just works. Science says that human are nothing else than biochemical machines, you just have to learn how to program and to maintain .

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:35:51 2010 No.5031521 >>5031507 >implying normal men don't think it is perfectly normal to look at 16 years old girls.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:35:51 2010 No.5031524 >>5031207 What does AoC really mean? I mean, if someone finds out I'm having sex with a 13 year old, I'm still going to jail... right? or is it only if the other person goes to the police saying she's not okay with it only?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:38:51 2010 No.5031536 >>5031524 Pretty much so. However if something happens then you will be burdened with proving the consent. Also the parents should be informed in time to be on the safe side.

>>	None !NACK.rrrr. Mon May 3 10:41:51 2010 No.5031544 >>5031536 All in all, it's not a good idea either way.

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Mon May 3 10:41:51 2010 No.5031545 >>5031524 Look up "statutory".

Anonymous Mon May 3 10:41:51 2010 No.5031546

>>5031524
If you have sex with someone who is under the age of consent, if someone finds out you might be prosecuted, even if the girl doesn't want you to be prosecuted : that's statutory rape.

However, in reality it doesn't mean shit. Girls as young as 12 have sex with 20 years old men and sometimes even older everywhere in the world and very few end up in jail for that, unless the girl report the guy to the police. And even then, she would have to prove she had sex with you and unless she kept a condom full of your semen or took pictures, it won't stand in any court.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:43:51 2010 No.5031549 File: 21 KB, 640x480, destiny39 (65).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5031332 People have the freedom to choose their own destiny Durandal.

Anonymous Mon May 3 10:44:51 2010 No.5031554
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>>5031546
>And even then, she would have to prove she had sex with you and unless she kept a condom full of your semen or took pictures, it won't stand in any court.

Haha. Oh wow. Actually IRL it's man responsibility to prove that he didn't fuck her. "Not guilty until proven" doesn't work for rape.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 10:53:51 2010 No.5031573 >>5031554 *rape of females

Anonymous Mon May 3 11:11:51 2010 No.5031623

>>5031546
>20 years old men
20 year olds are hardly "men". Just like 12 year olds aren't "little girls" anymore. People should stop using these terms in this context. It's the same as calling piracy "theft". Or loli "virtual child porn".

>>5031554
Sadly true.

Anonymous Mon May 3 11:14:51 2010 No.5031629

>>5031519
Religion: If I do what I'm told, I will be rewarded after I die.
Social structure: If I do what I'm told, I will be rewarded in life.

If they do not benefit from it, people won't just do as they're told.

>human are nothing else than biochemical machines
You're insane if you actually believe that.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 11:20:51 2010 No.5031654 >>5031629 >You're insane if you actually believe that. I take it you haven't studied biochemistry at a university level? You would talk differently if you had.

Anonymous Mon May 3 11:28:51 2010 No.5031676

>>5031654
Yeah, that's why we can exactly predict what any human at any time will do.

Get real. We can't even figure out precisely how a goddamn bird works. And we will never be able to grasp how our own mind works since it would require an intellect above that of our own.

Anonymous Mon May 3 12:06:51 2010 No.5031866

>>5031676
What do you mean we can't figure out how a bird works? We generally know how they fly, eat, reproduce, where they go as the seasons change and other things.
How does not knowing every detail disprove humans being big, complex biochemical machines? Do you even know what a biochemical machine is?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:26:51 2010 No.5031940 >>5031629 >You're insane if you actually believe that. Too bad biology and psychology have provided a large amount of evidence for it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:30:51 2010 No.5031962 >>5031866 >>5031940 Sure, whatever. Go be awesome dark nihilists somewhere else please, on Gaia or something.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:31:51 2010 No.5031968 Internet, 4chan, serious business, etc.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:34:51 2010 No.5031983 snake, i love you

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:36:51 2010 No.5032003 >>5031866 We still can't figure out how a bird with a brain the size of a pebble can find its way across continents. Yeah, I want you to come up with a reasonable explanation on how evolution pulled that off.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:40:51 2010 No.5032030 >>5032003 Oh lol a butthurt creationist. People that don't accept evolution are misguided fools too consumed by their religious delusions to accept a materialistic explanation of things because it removes humanity from its pedestal.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:41:51 2010 No.5032037 >>5032003 Evolution is a crock of shit anyway. I'm not saying creationism is the real truth, far from it. Just that the evolution theory has holes the size of a gaping vagina in it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:41:51 2010 No.5032041 >>5032030 Nothing to counter my point I see. GGs.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:42:51 2010 No.5032043 KOJIMA IS A GENIUS

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:47:51 2010 No.5032078 Creationism and Evolution are not mutually exclusive.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:47:51 2010 No.5032081 File: 134 KB, 477x611, sciduck.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >creationists Get to /sci/ or get an education. Creationists are an embarrassment to whichever community harbors them.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:48:51 2010 No.5032086 >>5032041 He's an atheist. He doesn't need any arguments, YOU must give him the answers, and the questions.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:52:51 2010 No.5032105 >>5032081 So are elitist pseudo-intellectuals.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:53:51 2010 No.5032110 >>5032105 I agree. So learn the facts.

Anonymous Mon May 3 12:54:51 2010 No.5032115

>>5032003
Let's see...
First of all, migrating birds usually only have a few remembered locations to go to.
The sun and the stars can be used to find direction.
Birds can also sense magnetic north.
Wind currents help birds move in the correct direction.
Most importantly, the birds that successfully migrate to advantageous regions successfully mate. The ones that don't, die and remove themselves from the gene pool.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:54:51 2010 No.5032120 >>5032081 Where did you see a creationist in this thread, anyway?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:57:51 2010 No.5032134 >>5032120 They're in his head. Atheists are just like religious people, they just have different kinds of delusions.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 12:58:51 2010 No.5032139 >>5032134 ...?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 13:03:51 2010 No.5032165 >>5032139 Never mind. I guess I wasn't too clear.

Anonymous Mon May 3 13:05:51 2010 No.5032172

Thread topic went from:
>Kojima's taboo.
To:
>Age of consent.
To:
>Communism vs Socialism vs Capitalism.
To:
>Atheism vs Creationism.

Now you see why we report anything that isn't Touhou, VN, or /jp/ related. You guys are no better than /v/, /new/, and /r9k/ when it comes to discussing non-2D topics.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 13:06:51 2010 No.5032177 The trolls are getting good nowadays. Although it's not much trolling /jp/. Most posters here rage over the most obvious trolling attempts.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 13:07:51 2010 No.5032179 >>5032165 It was clear. Just...senseless.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 13:10:51 2010 No.5032191 The Universe doesn't make sense. It is more like an elaborate troll than anything else. We have stars so large they shouldn't even exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 13:12:51 2010 No.5032204 I would've liked more Paz and less Evolution vs. Creationism.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 13:13:51 2010 No.5032210 >>5032191 > It is more like an elaborate troll than anything else. "God does not play dice. He rolls gets."

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 13:16:51 2010 No.5032226 File: 21 KB, 300x421, God.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5032210 If I find god actually does this I will abandon my faith.

Anonymous Mon May 3 13:29:51 2010 No.5032287

>>5032037
Do you even have anything besides a high school degree? If you did you wouldn't be uttering such idiotic nonsense. You can actually compare the genetic sequences of various species on your own computer and you can see preserved sequences for housekeeping genes in hundreds of species and align them. Care to explain all these similarities without common ancestors? And if you even mention god in the explanation you should be shot for being such a dumb piece of shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 13:36:51 2010 No.5032310 >>5032287 GOD DID IT!

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 13:37:51 2010 No.5032312 >>5032310 God damn that guy.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 13:39:51 2010 No.5032317 >>5032287 In the beginning, there was nothing. Then god created time so change could happen.

Anonymous Mon May 3 13:41:51 2010 No.5032322
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>>5032287
Sounds to me like god was lazy and used the same critter to make the whole lot of us.

Because I totally use my own code again rather than starting from scratch if I can.

But don't get angry over it. Here, watch Rumia do a cute dance.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 14:04:51 2010 No.5032436 >>5032322 If God is so lazy, what's to stop him from letting nature take its course? In fact, if there is a God and he did create the universe, and he is lazy, there's no reason he couldn't have left it to its own devices from the instant of creation.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 14:10:51 2010 No.5032461 >>5032287 Here, this may help you: http://shii.org/knows/Freedom_From_Atheism

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 15:08:54 2010 No.5032772 >>5032436 I think he did just that with free will, bro. Maybe you weren't paying attention? He will just call on our shit once this whole mess either fixes itself or goes down in a fiery ball of fire.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 16:02:08 2010 No.5033115 >>5032461 Saw "Shii" in URL, did not read. I've got more important works of hate on my to-read list, like Mein Kampf.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 18:09:10 2010 No.5034053 The fuck does this idiotic religion talk have to do with MGS

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 18:11:40 2010 No.5034060 Get out of /jp/ psuedointellectual collegefags

>>	Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. Mon May 3 18:12:40 2010 No.5034068 oh right, I need to download this shit. Thanks for the reminder.

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