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Anonymous Mon May 3 05:18:02 2010 No.5030128 [Reply] [Original]

>"(...) I was this close to kicking you, so watch out."
>"Kicked? By who?"
Who, the hell, proofread this?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:19:02 2010 No.5030135 Who the hell forms your sentences, is a better question.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:20:02 2010 No.5030140 Tsukihime's translation isn't that bad, though there are some awkward bits like that. You want to see some shit, play something translated by mangagamer.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:20:02 2010 No.5030143 >>5030128 maybe that's how nasu made it..

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:26:02 2010 No.5030160 You were this close to getting kicked, so watch out. Kicked? By who? Probably would have made more sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:28:02 2010 No.5030167 I want Sensei to kick me ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:30:02 2010 No.5030173 It's "By whom" LOL

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:31:02 2010 No.5030175 >>5030143 No, this was originally in the passive.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:31:02 2010 No.5030182 >>5030160 Except that strays from the actual translation. It's hard to translate what she actually said and still sound right, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:32:02 2010 No.5030189 >>5030140 Someone hasn't read something from MG in a long time.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:34:02 2010 No.5030198 >>5030182 No, this was originally in the passive dude, then the translator made it active so 5030160's suggestion is the correct one.

Anonymous Mon May 3 05:40:02 2010 No.5030223

>>5030198
I can't type in Japanese right now, but Aoko said "sonna tokoro ni iru to keritobasu wayo" or something to along those lines, I'm pretty sure (unless I'm getting confused with melty blood lines). It would directly translate to "If you sit there I'm going to kick you."

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:43:02 2010 No.5030239 >>5030223 no, the original is あやう蹴り飛ばされるところだったんだから

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:44:02 2010 No.5030244 あやうく, sorry

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:48:02 2010 No.5030270 >>5030223 Even then... I don't think it translates to what you just said it translates to. It just says if you stay there, you're gonna get kicked.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:50:02 2010 No.5030280 File: 26 KB, 318x464, nopain.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5030160 That's what I thought too. It's not all that bad but if MirrorMoon is the best translation group out there then this and FSN are going to be the only VNs I'll play.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:50:02 2010 No.5030281 Yes it does. If that had been the original line, that phrasing would highly imply that action being done by the speaker.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:51:02 2010 No.5030293 >>5030281 Who are you replying to?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:51:02 2010 No.5030288 >>5030280 They aren't don't worry

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:55:02 2010 No.5030310 >>5030270 Go back to Japanese 101.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 05:56:02 2010 No.5030314 >>5030293 >>5030270

Anonymous Mon May 3 05:59:02 2010 No.5030335

>>5030310
>>5030314
>sonna tokoro ni iru to keritobasu wayo
On its face just says that Shiki's gonna get kicked soon if he was in that place.

That's all it says, implication be damned.

Implications only work if the other side understands the implication.

Hence, Shiki asking the question.

Fucking morons.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:01:02 2010 No.5030346 >>5030335 It says ayauku keritobasareru tokoro dattan dakara not the line you have

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:03:02 2010 No.5030353 File: 22 KB, 310x466, medicine.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5030335 Take some medicine and take it easy.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:04:02 2010 No.5030358 >>5030346 It still translates to basically the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:06:02 2010 No.5030370 >>5030335 If that had been the original line and Shiki didn't understand what it meant, that would make Shiki a retard. That doesn't make the line ambiguous. That's why that's not what the line is. As the other guy said, go back to Japanese 101 plz

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:07:02 2010 No.5030372 >>5030358 You were about to get kicked vs I was this close to kicking you vs Shiki's gonna get kicked soon if he was in that place. 100 translations later.....

Anonymous Mon May 3 06:15:02 2010 No.5030423
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>>5030372
We're discussing the translation within the context of the original. It has the same meaning as the original because it doesn't make Shiki a retard, because he isn't portrayed as one in the Japanese text. Happy?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:19:02 2010 No.5030447 File: 30 KB, 300x441, 1272878183307.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:22:02 2010 No.5030469 File: 43 KB, 639x478, hey_kid_lets_ss.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OP here. Take it easy. >>5030447 ;_;

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:25:02 2010 No.5030481 >>5030335 Idiot, what you are trying to say would translate to "keritobaSARERU wayo" - which would be the more general way. Except she directly told him that she's going to kick him if he stays there, implications be damned my ass.

Anonymous Mon May 3 06:35:02 2010 No.5030530
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I like Tsukihime not for it's translation, but for the presence of very appreciable sorcerers(esses) and vampires. I like both of those.

In fact, there's quite a lot of vampires in Tsukihime. It's pretty nice, honestly. A lot of magic too, and badass humans. It's a pretty good story.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:38:02 2010 No.5030545 >>5030530 That was the worst review I've ever read, no offense.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:39:02 2010 No.5030551 File: 103 KB, 800x600, 39522bcbc19bfaff8b7ef993d28a18b8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5030545 Tsukihime: It's about vampires and wizards and a guy with a knife.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 06:40:02 2010 No.5030554 >>5030545 Tsukihime: twilight for boys.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 07:21:02 2010 No.5030734 File: 45 KB, 638x480, hisui.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5030551 You forgot the delicious maids.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 07:23:02 2010 No.5030738 File: 87 KB, 600x401, 1270129921387.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5030734

Anonymous Mon May 3 07:38:02 2010 No.5030801
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I got the most guilty boner of my entire life when Kohaku talked about being kicked in the stomach, strangled, cut, and thrown around while being raped.

... I don't want to say I'd want to be her in that situation, but it's my fetish.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 07:43:02 2010 No.5030821 >>5030801 I don't remember that. In which route does she say that?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 07:52:02 2010 No.5030852 >>5030738 I love this picture. I don't know why.

Anonymous Mon May 3 08:12:02 2010 No.5030902

>"I get a little angry".
>"After all, I sit in the fourth row from the front so I don't think I'm that short."
>"Kicked? By who?"

To me, it looks like little Shiki is just trying to be badass, and what he's saying is more like a retort, "As if you'd dare to kick me".

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:15:02 2010 No.5030913 >>5030902 More like "As if you could kick me."

Anonymous Mon May 3 08:20:02 2010 No.5030943

>>5030372
>>5030370
>>5030481
No. You will be kicked and "blank" will kick you does not readily translate to "I" will kick you.

That's why Shiki asked the question.

You can change keritobasu's provider of the action to just about anything because she doesn't actually provide it in the sentence as it is.

She only implies that the kicker is her, nothing in the sentence says she is actually the kicker.

Hence Shiki's reply.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:27:02 2010 No.5030968 File: 80 KB, 500x400, blurb_facepalm2_20090622.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5030943

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:30:02 2010 No.5030980 >>5030943 I have never read anything so neckbearded in months.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:31:02 2010 No.5030984 Shiki can kick servants

Anonymous Mon May 3 08:36:02 2010 No.5031015
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Aoko is probably my favourite character in Tsukihime:

- Only appears in the prologue and epilogue but is a vital character
- Master troll, but randomly acted kind with Shiki so he thinks she's a wonderful person
- SUGOI voice and lines in Melty Blood

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:38:02 2010 No.5031023 File: 179 KB, 414x363, 1270977803111.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5031015 >Master troll, but randomly acted kind with Shiki so he thinks she's a wonderful person

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:38:02 2010 No.5031022 >>5031015 Plus she has a sexy body and hair. God, I can't wait for Mahou Tsukai no Yoru to come out.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:39:02 2010 No.5031024 >>5030943 hahaha

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:40:02 2010 No.5031030 >>5031023 That manga confused the shit out of me.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:41:02 2010 No.5031036 Anyway what the latest info on release dates for the new TM games?

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:52:02 2010 No.5031095 >>5031036 bump

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 08:58:02 2010 No.5031119 >>5031095 Fate/extra - 7/22 Mahoyo - no clue but it's supposed to come out this year, perhaps in winter comiket? Tsukihime remake - lol

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:00:02 2010 No.5031128 >>5031119 REMAKE IS COMING THIS YEAR IT HAS TO

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:02:02 2010 No.5031143 >>5031119 Fate/Extra doesn't interest me because PSP. Nasu should already announce the dates for the real games dammit

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:03:02 2010 No.5031146 >>5030821 Hisui's. She mentions it when she mentioned how she dealt with it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:23:02 2010 No.5031233 A person says ななしくんを殺すところだったんだ Who would have done the killing An unnamed third party or the person saying this

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:27:02 2010 No.5031250 File: 61 KB, 640x480, 4188.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>5030140 >You want to see some shit, play something translated by mangagamer. Mangagamer is not that baв. If you want some real hard core, play giniro. If you dare. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:48:02 2010 No.5031343 >>5030128 >Who, the hell, proofread this? Are those commas correct? Did you proofread your text? Message is better than you.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:52:02 2010 No.5031362 >>5031343 >Message is better than you. This is quite arguably the harshest insult you could have ever said to anyone. Especially since Message doesn't even translate anything.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:53:02 2010 No.5031367 >>5031143 Too bad for you because it looks awesome. I am very eager to play it.

>>	Anonymous Mon May 3 09:55:02 2010 No.5031374 >>5031362 I guess that it was the whole point of that troll.

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