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5009943 No.5009943 [Reply] [Original]

Hell /jp/, why are ALL of Marisa's types so awful in SA? This game is going to be a hell since I don't like reimu at all.

>> No.5009952

Marisa with stopping power, commando and ninja isn't so bad

>> No.5009950

Alice dolls are really useful.

>> No.5009955

Well, il that case it must be me who isn't able to use them correctly. The best part with alice is her 8 bombs, but I can't use them in a correct way anyway.

>> No.5009956

What do you mean? Patchy and Alice are easily the 2nd and 3rd best shot types, respectively. Hell, theoretically, Alice has the highest score potential in the game. If not for Yukarihax, Marisa would be stomping all over Reimu.

>> No.5009953

Patchy version has a nice variety of attacks and Alice has some great firepower. Nitori can be used for power whoring if you constantly in fear of being hit

>> No.5009958

>>5009943
>This game is going to be a hell since I don't like reimu at all.
You're not going to enjoy the game because you don't like the "character"? You probably would not enjoy it anyway.

>> No.5009959

She used up all of her brokenness.

>> No.5009961
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>>5009943
Sooooo appropriate. But actually, A and B are fun if you can work your head around their weirdnesses.

(Patchy switches shot types via Shift+Z)

>> No.5009964

Marisa B is Marisa Best

>> No.5009972

The 3rd shoot type is the best one for me (even if Patchouli is not bad either) but her bomb is too weak (in term of damages) for me

>> No.5009979

>>5009956

Even without the gapping, Reimu A is still the best character.

>> No.5009980

>>5009958
No, I mean that I don't want to take Reimu-Yukari, and with my affinity with Marisa's types, it's going to be funny.

>> No.5009987

>This game is going to be a hell
That's the idea.

>> No.5009990

Marisa sucks for clears. Hard. Really hard. Just stick to Yukari, like in every game she appears in.

>> No.5009992
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All Marisa's shot types are playable, I did my 1CC with Nitori and it was fine. The shot-type differences only go full retard when you're playing for score, and given that you pick shot types based on the 'characters' and how many bombs you can spam, that's not going to be an issue.

>> No.5009998

>>5009979
Yukari's hax extends to every aspect of her broken little ass, not just the gap.

>> No.5010011

>>5009979
Not really. Her shot type is good, but her bomb is the MAIN APPEAL. Yaaay, graze graze graze.

>> No.5010009

Everything after Unlimited Midnight or whatever is terrible.

>> No.5010017

>>5010009
Imperishable Night. If you can't get that right, your opinion is automatically invalid.

>> No.5010037

>>5010009
>Unlimited Midnight
laughed

>> No.5010039

>>5010017
dontknowiftrolling.jpg

>> No.5010056

Marisa-Alice is okay if you are used to bomb often.

>> No.5010079

Marisa's shot types don't suck. It's Marisa herself that sucks since she has a larger hitbox which means Satori and Utsuho will rape you on Lunatic.

That being said 8 bombs is totally sweet.

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>>5010009

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>>5010009
>Unlimited Midnight

>> No.5010128

Unlimited Midnight was awful, Underground Beastiality was much better.

>> No.5010129

For survival runs, Patchouli team isn't hands down the best, but it's very balanced. It doesn't have the awkward aiming issues as with the Reimu and Aya combo, can have decent damage output.

It doesn't have 8 bombs like the Alice team, but really, if you need 8 bombs for a survival you should probably be focusing on other things like learning to stream better. I find SA, like MoF, is typically better to not bomb during survival runs as the loss of power can really drag out certain spellcards.

As for actual advantages, rather than lack of disadvantages, the multiple shot types are amazing and once you're used to switching between them it really isn't a bother. For general purposes you'll be using the highly focused one and the large spread, but the yellow one that fires in a stacked I-beam shape can be useful on certain spellcards (I'm thinking of you, Malice Sign "Midnight Anathema Ritual"). Generally the extreme wide angle one lacks the coverage in between the 3 streams to actually hit anything and the reverse fire one would usually be used in situations where the yellow one works better anyway. Also, if you do find that you need to bomb, and you happen to be near the target, this team's bomb can do major damage.

Alice really is a solid choice, too, but I find that I don't like the ability to rely on bombs as it can develop poor habits for learning patterns, and I'm disappointed that her laser options don't pierce like Marisa's lasers usually do so I avoid her. Nitori's not terrible, she just plays more like the old magic missile Marisa. Low-damage bomb (does it even damage enemies in SA? I can't remember) with high-damage, highly-focused frontal options.

>> No.5010137

I love Patchy/Marisa even though I only wind up using the fire and water shots.

Also, it has the best Satori battle.

>> No.5010159

>>5010128
I prefer Flawless Pineapple Flower.

>> No.5010179

>>5010129
>Reimu and Aya combo
>Comparing ANYTHING to reimu/aya.

>> No.5010195

This thread made me want to play SA again. I started to use Marisa, but I'm not used to her hitbox. I needed to continue on stage 2...

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What's the matter OP, can't handle a little tactical action?

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Nyaaaan!

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>> No.5010274

>>5010159
Oh yeah? I think Hills of the Believers was quite good.

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>>5010274

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>>5009943
Superior!

>> No.5010649

Why did make the shot types in SA so weird?

>> No.5010665

the series went to shit after magic rectangle and you know it

>> No.5010669

Ah come on OP, optical camouflage is FUCKING AWESOME

>> No.5010670

>>5010649
Perhaps because they should somewhat resemble the team partner.

>> No.5010678

>>5010274
Not as good as Incarnation of Crimson Satan!

>> No.5010685

>>5010670

The shot types "somewhat resembled" the team partners' in IN and those shot types weren't nearly as crazy. Yes IN is shit and whatever.

>> No.5010711
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>>5010685
>Yes IN is shit and whatever
It's my favourite Touhou next to EosD.

>> No.5010728

>>5010685
>>5010711
No one cares about your opinion.

>> No.5010737

>>5010728
No one cares about who you think that will care about their opinion.

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>>5010737

>> No.5010897

Magical Rhombus was awesome; no one can refute that.

>> No.5010957

>>5010678
I really liked Hill of Fervor until I noticed how little effort went into everything (sans engine).

>> No.5010972

>>5010897
The Red Body of Satan would like a word with you.

>> No.5011053

Why has no one mentioned Undefinable Wondrous Objective yet? I think that has the most balanced shot-types.

>> No.5011078

>>5011053
Kind of irrelevant when the rest is crap.

>> No.5011079

What do you guys think of Poltergeist of Flower Watch?

>> No.5011092

>>5011053
But Fantasy of Dark Imagination had the best music of them all. <3 Raspberry Emergency.

>> No.5011107

>>5011092
>Raspberry Emergency
I have to admit, I lol'd pretty hard.

>> No.5011109

>>5011053

yeah, Ambiguous Fabulous Thing is my favourite

>> No.5011193

Hill of the Beleiver was pretty shit imo. Kanserogen, the final boss, is batshit difficult and the bombs are shit.

>> No.5011202

>>5011193
Faggot. HotB was awesome.

>> No.5011210

>>5009943
Marisa A bomb = LOL THUNDER FORCE V

>> No.5011238

>>5010129
>>Reimu and Aya combo

If you played Akuu Gallet/Air Gallet, the Hunter-seeker powerup in the game is this chara combo. It really, really is a total bitch to use against the bullet swarms, and is best used when you manage to lock the option's shots to go upper right or upper left, and occassionally forward.

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>>5011202

>> No.5011257

>>5009992
It's the helicopter from Dodonpachi!

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