/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

http://hevoluson.blog87.fc2.com/blog-entry-104.html

[Anonymous No.]

>SHITPOSTER

[Anonymous No.]

Give translated version of it or go away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998477
If you have ATLAS, it was surprisingly accurate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998488
I don't have that shit. I don't play VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998477

It's about that new wiki for c&d'd translations and how it's blocking nips

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998493

Then why the hell are you on /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998495
That much I gathered.

[Anonymous No.]

C&D official website.
This website cannot be browsed from Japan.

Some Japanese seem to be having an antipathy against TRANSLATIONS.
Therefore,we have prohibited the access from your country in order to defend our culture.
Sorry for you who believes in translations.

C&D Inc.

Hahaha, now, I don't support the wiki, but this is funny as hell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998472
Why are you guys making such a big deal out of it? If the translators want to continue, they'll continue. If they want a cheap excuse, they'll stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998499
Go away, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998507
>calling someone else a retard
>saging incorrectly

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998504
People get angry and have to show their frustration, somehow.

Either way, it's a bad move. Translation projects should just go underground and stop with all these attention-whore wikis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998507

So you're just here to troll then, I guess?

I seriously can't think of a reason to be here otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998519
Nothing wrong with public wikis, they make tracking progress and getting more people involved easier.

It's actually possible to make a bulletproof/un-C&D'able public wiki, but so far people don't seem to be very interested in it.

[Anonymous No.]

Just ignore the trolls.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998530

Pretty much. There are a dozen places you could host it where they couldn't do shit even if they had a massive legal team.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, post those "dirty pirate gaijin (ahaha oh wow" screenshots before 2ch comes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998519
>attention-whore
First /jp/ bitches when translators don't provide clear indication of how much is done and proof of that, then when the translators start doing that they call them attention whores. Never change, /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998516
I used sage- to get past the annoying flood detection for sage posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998524
>herp derp jp is for vn's only

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998530
>It's actually possible to make a bulletproof/un-C&D'able public wiki
How?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998589
Host the wiki in a country that's either not party to the Berne Convention or in a country that is but only enforces it in matters that preclude VN translations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998581

If you would stop acting like you're from /v/ for a moment, is there actually anything else here?

Unless you're an idolfag, or one of those creepy kigurumi guys. And if you were one of them, you wouldn't be in this thread.

So, basically, you really are just on /jp/ to troll then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998589
There's actually quite a few ways, here's some simple ones:
1) A dedicated server company which doesn't respond to non-local C&D requests. There are quite a few of those, some are expensive. Some people actually offered to do it for free, if anyone was interested.
2) Host it on one of the anonymous networks/anonymous content distribution systems. This means things like Freenode or hidden service under Tor. In the second case, you have to do a bit of work to asure it's secure, but it works reasonably well.

So far, I've seen people consider this in #tlwiki, but from the 2 projects that got C&D'd, Eden*'s translator doesn't seem to be interested in continuing it, while the Yosuga no Sora translator is undecided if he wants to continue, and if he will continue, undecided in which form it will be. So there's no reason to even consider this without the translator's support. I don't even see the point of C&Dwiki's, since without the translators support, you can't really move on, and their site is not 100% C&D proof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998591
So Iraq then? Great plan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998598
Holy shit, you are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

Did someone/any group start a DoS attack on the blog? It's really slow for me, while any other website loads normally.

[Anonymous No.]

Host it in Taiwan.
They're not a Berne signatory as they aren't officially recognized as a country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998627
No, everyone from 4chan is visiting and the poor little site can't handle it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998626

For the third time, I still do not see you presenting anything else.

I will conclude that I was right the first time. You are only on /jp/ to troll.

[Anonymous No.]

I just see a blank page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998635
Okay now it's too obvious.

8/10 Got me for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

ブログ更新。前の記事の続きと、（多分）最新の状況について。＞「権利者
による削除」に対抗し、日本からのアクセスを遮断する美少女ゲームファ
ンサブサイトが登場？ http://hevoluson.blog87.fc2.com/blog-entry-104.html

[Anonymous No.]

just says home for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998640
Some japanese seems to have problems with translation project.
So we block japanese people.
To defend our culture

[derp google translator No.]

>>4998640
Blog updates. Continuation of the previous article, (probably) about the latest situation. > "Deleted by right" in response to the girl appeared to block access from Gemufansabusaito Japan? http://hevoluson.blog87.fc2.com/blog-entry-104.html

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4998560

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998651
Hmm, I have a better translator:

>[burogu] renewal. The continuation of the article before and, (perhaps) about up-to-date circumstance. > To “the deletion by the proprietor” it opposes, the beauty girl game fan sub sight which cuts off the access from Japan appears?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998472

This is just going too far.

Just go underground instead of trollan the Japs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998659
Why? Afraid they won't accept you into their culture?

[diff anon No.]

>>4998663
You exacerbate the situation by needlessly provoking them and the English-speaking community ends up worse off with more angry companies sending C&Ds.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4998668

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998668

And this is a bad thing because...?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998672
More C&Ds means higher chance of translators quitting and causing projects to die.

Seriously, use some common sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998616
> freenode
> tor
Ah, so we're immersing ourselves in the pedophile culture even further then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998672
While you may not be a moralfag, some translators may be, or may have other reasons. C&D is a valid excuse for them to quit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998677

Nobody quits projects because of C&Ds. People who are sick of projects use C&Ds as an excuse to quit. They were going to quit anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998678
You speak from experience?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998678
You know those networks do have plenty of other uses. There's no reason not to use them for what they were meant.

PD, Share and other anonymous p2p networks have plenty of illegal content on it too, but you don't seem to call them `pedophile culture'.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998682
see
>>4998681
and www.sekaiproject.net
>As most of you have read or noticed already, our TLWiki page has been taken down. A representative from minori has written their opposition to the translation. With respect to the developer, we have suspended all work on eden.

[Anonymous No.]

4chan: worsening Japanese-foreign relations since 2004.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998686

Did you notice how nearly nothing had been done on Eden beforehand? It's a tiny VN yet they had only translated about 3000 lines of it. The C&D was an excuse to admit that they quit ages ago.s

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998688
We can't worsen somehing non existant because of the xenophobic japanese society.

[Anonymous No.]

Would be hilarious if this started WW3.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998694
I'm stocking my basement with canned goods now. And porn.

[Anonymous No.]

We can only hope that more foreign exposition to eroges and defiance to the developers' wish will not cause the Japanese VN industry to ban/regulate the elements we love in VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998694
They'd write in history books about us, would be funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998668
>needlessly provoking them
>needlessly
hahahaohwow.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998689
You may not care since you probably pirate games and don't give a rat's ass about the original developers (I can make blind assumptions too!), but some fan translators are moralfags and are likely to respect a company's wishes for them to cease translation, not because they're sick of a project.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998692
That's what every racist person thinks.

Really, Korea and China are much more xenophobic/racist than Japan. Japan is much less racist/xenophobic than most eastern European countries. I'm not saying it is on a western European country's level, but Japan is far less racist/xenophobic than most 4channers think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998711
Why do you care? You're such a moralfag you should only be buying their official English releases. If there is no unofficial translation, that's the will of the developers!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998705
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4998714
Now we're on a "who is more racist" race?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998714
>Japan is far less racist/xenophobic than most 4channers think
Oh really? I've never heard any one of them oppose these kind of racist tactics someone from their country pulls. At best, they simply don't give a shit about us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998718
>implying everyone commits crimes
Cool story, Ghandi.

[Anonymous No.]

amerikkkans are more racist than japanese, cf arizona

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998715
Or maybe because there's very incentive to expand their market overseas? Stop assuming all companies are xenophobic like minori.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998725
Yeah, because mangogamer is really rolling in the dough. Wait...

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>Japanese
>not racist

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998725
You ignore my point. Why are you dealing with unofficial translations in the first place, if you think people should respect the wishes of the developers?

You're a fucking hypocrite.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>japanese
>not racist

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%A4%96%E5%9B%BD%E4%BA%BA%E7%8A%AF%E7%BD%AA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998721
That's what they do with their very population.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998722
>>needlessly provoking them
>>needlessly
>hahahaohwow.jpg

Oh sorry, I just assumed you were responding to how we ought to get payback those racist Japs for vandalizing wiki pages, calling us harmful gaijin, and sending C&Ds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998731
Uh no. You can do a fan translation with the permission of the original developers. See insani, narcissu, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998736
I can't understand your broken English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998742
They did not have permission. Stop trying to wiggle yourself out of this, you just want your translations and don't really give one little shit about the Japanese companies. You just don't want to see them antagonized because, again, you want your little VNs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998742
>doujin

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998742
You're forgetting about Ryukishi's support for Witch Hunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998743

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998746
>They did not have permission.
I mean the ones on C&Dwiki, etc. if that wasn't too clear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998672
Because it just brings more controversy. Believe it or not quite a few fantranslators right now are translating things cause they were fans of the game. However if they are confronted with something like "if you really are a fan of the game then you wouldn't be an asshole and just continue it just to spite us, who created the game", then it definitely worsens their motivation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998746
Yeah, keep making assumptions bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998757
Good. I don't even like VNs. :)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998760
No real counterargument huh? As expected of you~

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998766

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

Next thing you'll say you didn't pirate windows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998771
Let's not get ridiculous here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998771
Too bad, I use Linux.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998771
But my computer already came with Windows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998732
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_internment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-nazism

I can link random articles too.

Your point is?

Humans are stupid and racist. Japanese people are no exception. We know that. Still, Japan is far less racist than most 4channers believe.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4998776
*GNU/Linux

>>4998778
Sorry but none of that is relavant to the japanese wikipedia page I linked. "Foreigner Crimes".

At least in the english articles, we admit it's racist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998778
It depends on how you define racism.

White racism is usually "WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE SUPERIOR GENE POOL KILL NIGGERS KILL JEWS KILL DISGUSTING PIGMENTED SKIN"

Japanese racism is more along the lines of "look at those silly gaijin" Many see foreigners more as amusing circus animals than a person.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4998778
And I am pretty sure you can't buy THIS >>4998728 kind of book in bookstores in America, or any other country except some.

[Anonymous No.]

When Japan made a memorial for the people who died because of the atomic bombings (which doesn't deserve a memorial in the first place, but ignoring that) they included the names of all the Japanese people that died in the blast.

The Japanese people. Not the Koreans or Chinese people who had also lived there and also died in the blast.

Japanese people are the shitstain on the face of the planet.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4998795
Not to mention how can it get publicized and sold in every convenience store.

[Anonymous No.]

That shit storm pic of OP is weak.. they should have used a classic storm like the one in 1993.... now THAT was a shit storm!

[Anonymous No.]

You gotta love how the weeaboo brigade is defending Japan's latent existing racism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998778
They're probably still pissed that we whooped their yellow asses with our nukes. Besides they were the ones on the side of the facists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998795
That is a very old story. It has been banned from every Family Mart and its publication has already stopped.

Still, no one is saying Japan is not racist/xenophobic. It just seems to me that 4channers think Japanese people actually care to have intense hate thoughts about foreigners/races. The general population mostly doesn't care to have negative thoughts about foreigners (specially whites, korean and chinese are a different story).

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

Now imagine if you go into walmart. Look at the bookshelves, and see a book titled "Crimes committed by niggers" selling like normal.

Wat do?

[Anonymous No.]

ITT: stormfront

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4998835
> very old
>not even 3 years

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998839
Holy shit, this is so retarded it's not even funny. The weeaboo tries to defend the Japs by accusing US of the act THEY are committing. Holy fucking shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998859
>Japs

Oh boy, I guess I should be racist too since they're being racist to me!

Grow up, you manchild.

[Anonymous No.]

lets chill and clam the fuck down, nothing will change

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998878
>treating an abbreviation as an insult

WE HAVE A HARDCORE WEEABOO AMONG US!

[Anonymous No.]

Go back to 2ch.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4998883
he's probably a singaporean or taiwanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998883
Jap is considered a racial slur with negative connotations.

Perhaps you should educate yourself some more before making an ass out of yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

We should all stop hate'n and live as equals!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998893
Wow, you're really fucking retarded. Just, wow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998893

Racial slurs need to be understood to be slurs, bro. Yankee had negative connotations too bro.

I'm gonna have to go with the guy who's calling you a weeaboo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998898

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998902
In before accusation of samefaggotry, the ultimate last-resort comeback.

[Anonymous No.]

>weeaboo

[Anonymous No.]

I personally hate being called a yankee because I am from the south. I am a redneck damnit! a rebel!

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998917

Yankee was a synonym for retard.
I can't think of any better description for the south.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998931


you know I can't either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998931
Yankee refers to people from New England (the north).

Seriously, stop making an ass of yourself.

[reiserFS !Hc6EcVkstI No.]

Since when does /jp/ have morals? You disappoint me.

[Anonymous No.]

>this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>I would like to apologize for the idiots we have in the western world who made that.
Oh look, it's the retard from earlier threads

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

buummpppp

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999303
Holy fuck there are some sad faggots posting to that blog.

Grow a fucking spine, you weasels. "Please don't hate me Mr. Japanese person! I'm not like them, I love to eat your shit and I don't mind at all if you call me inferior because that is what I am!"

[sage No.]

>>4999383

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999408
The post with the least kind of worth on 4chan. Congrats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999303
Because quite clearly forcing conflict for the hell of it is the best way of handling this situation.

Come back when C&D TLWiki is hosting an active project worth mentioning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4998808 which doesn't deserve a memorial in the first place, but ignoring that
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999420
BAWWWWWW some more, you goddamn faggot.

They hate you. They will never like you, no matter how much you try. How does it feel, crying yourself to sleep at night?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999426
It's like the Germans making a memorial for all the nazis that died during the war. It's an affront.

[Anonymous of Germany !WvzhzxDiIQ No.]

>>4999439

Because EVERY German and Japanese person during the time of a facist regime was EVIL and should not be rememberred.

[Suigin !mercury/qA No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999458
Don't worry, nobody will remember you anyway.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4999420
>implying I would translate shit just because I was told to

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999435
I do not believe translators should stop with C&D notices, however.

1.) There are translators who WILL stop with a C&D. You can say what you will about these translators, however they aren't going to be the type to host their content on a website that says "fuck you Japan". It doesn't matter how much "spine" random people on here have, it means nothing if fan translators aren't working. Instigating what is going on through random insults one would expect to hear from grade school students does nothing productive.

2.) This is not a situation where random insults in poor English do anything productive. There are plenty of valid ways to tell them fuck you with their opinion. You say you have a spine because you can say "well you suck" in poor English. Feel free to tell them fuck you, but use valid arguments, otherwise you only make yourself look like an idiot.


I am all for making something that resists C&D letters, and nothing is wrong with a C&D TLWiki, just don't do so in a way to cause more conflict, no one wins like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999435
I do not believe translators should stop with C&D notices, however.

1.) There are translators who WILL stop with a C&D. You can say what you will about these translators, however they aren't going to be the type to host their content on a website that says "fuck you Japan". It doesn't matter how much "spine" random people on here have, it means nothing if fan translators aren't working. Instigating what is going on through random insults one would expect to hear from grade school students does nothing productive if it leads to more C&D notices, just less stuff to play.

2.) This is not a situation where random insults in poor English do anything productive. There are plenty of valid ways to tell them fuck you with their opinion. You say you have a spine because you can say "well you suck" in poor English. Feel free to tell them fuck you, but use valid arguments, otherwise you only make yourself look like an idiot.


I am all for making something that resists C&D letters, and nothing is wrong with a C&D TLWiki, just don't do so in a way to cause more conflict, no one wins like this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999439
Well in fact they should. Don't forget the war crimes the Allies had done like the civilian firebombings or the death camps after the war where ten thousands of German prisoners of war had been starved to death by order.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4999531
I, by all means. Respect your opinion.

But I WANT to stir shit up.
That's how I roll.

[!Chammy No.]

/g/et
=w=

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

[Anonymous No.]

Not this shit again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999599

キターー（゜∀゜）－－！

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999578
That was more directed at those saying logic has no place in this than random trolls with a /b/ attitude who are aware that they are just being jerks.

[Anonymous No.]

The one good thing came out of this is that the Dark Translations guy decided to focus on games besides that one shit company he likes to translate games from.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999516
This would be a good point, except as far as I can see there really isn't a legitimate counter-argument. "Because I want it" doesn't count.
Maybe Minori didn't have the right to take the translation away, but what right did you have to it in the first place?
This whole thing wouldn't be an issue if people were willing to learn Japanese, but they can't even be bothered to do that. As far as I'm concerned, unwillingness to put forth effort for something disqualifies entitlement to it.

I am aware that in this particular case that's something of a catch-22, but that doesn't make the principle any less valid.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4999688

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999599
THE MODS ARE ALIVE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999720
i'm just glad he will still continue. His group's output is the fastest of all fantranslations..

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999780
But he mostly translates nukige. Most of us should be able to play nukige without translations (voice and AGTH+dictionary is usually enough). Nukige is most likely the simplest to translate material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999797
He is translating DDC now, which is less shit than his other stuff, but he doesn't have much choice besides MinDead Blood (or something else Black CYC) next based on his current commissions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4999835
Would be nice to see a GSS translation, if only to shut up everyone who wants it