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This guy is such a twat.

>> No.4993725

Attention everyone, Battler is a twat. News at 11.

>> No.4993726

I've only seen the anime but I find him a fucking retard. He is arguing that 2+2=5. Umineko is utter garbage compared to Higrashi.

>> No.4993727

Umineko, elooooongated words, the game.

>> No.4993738

>>4993727
Elooooooooooooongated words while crying and/or screaming.

>> No.4993757
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>>4993727
What are you sayiiiiiiiiiiiing? Uooooooohhhhhhhhh

>> No.4993766
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>>4993726
Dohoho. Idiot.

>> No.4993793

I don't like him much either.

>> No.4993794
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4993794

He's better as a woman.

>> No.4993799

>>4993766
SO he is a weak willed fag that switched over.
Gongrats.

>> No.4993811

>>4993799
Actually, he's pro-truth now.

Seeing how the witches killed Beato, Battler understood the truth, and Battler married Beato.

Meh, just read it.

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>>4993726
I never knew you visited /jp/, technominator.

>> No.4993818

>>4993726
>I've only seen the anime but I find him a fucking retard. He is arguing that 2+2=5
Don't worry. He's like that in the VN as well. He also acts like a menstruating woman. Cries all the time when something doesn't go his way.

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>>4993811
Oh, yeah, Battler's a witch now, and he resurrected Beato too.

>> No.4993820

>>4993811
That sounds retarded.
If he was pro truth, he should have revealed it by now.
He is just chained to Beato's nonexistent pussy.

>> No.4993821

Indeed... tho the VN rocks. The anime adaptation is bullshit. Crap. I feel sick just talking about it.

>> No.4993826

>>4993820
Indeed, it sounds silly.

If I were you, I'd read the VN from episode 1, seeing DEEN missed a lot of clues.

>Clapping scene
>My golden witch

to name two.

>> No.4993831

>>4993820
You gotta admit, it's hard to believe your family are possibly murderers. (at least for some people)

>> No.4993833

>>4993820
>nonexistent
I believe they both exist in the same plain of existence, so for him:
Island=not real
Meta-world=real
Also he'd have exposed the truth if our beloved mary sue hadn't interferred.

>> No.4993838

>>4993831
But the guy said he is pro truth, so what stops him?

>> No.4993845

Meh, Battler doesn't mind witches, he just doesn't want to believe witches were the one who killed his family.
>>4993838
Yeah, that was me.

He is pro-truth, and he was the game master in Episode 6, but Erika tricked him into locking himself into a 'closed room'.

It wasn't a closed room, obviously, but he didn't want to reveal Beato's secret to her, seeing how it was originially Beato's game.

Y'know; "Without love, it cannot be seen".

>> No.4993846

>>4993838
Bern wants to be a bad guy and expose everything in the WRONG way, also he said he should be the one to kill Beato, so till Bern stops being a bitch, he has to defend the magic side.

>> No.4993849

>>4993831
>You gotta admit, it's hard to believe your family are possibly murderers.

For a guy with a regular, functional family it would be, but Battler's family is full of borderline psychos. If I was him, I'd be surprised if one of them _wasn't_ a killer, even before there's any murders actually going on.

>> No.4993854

>>4993820
He did practically shove the truth of the first twilight in everyone's faces, and would have done the rest if not for the logic error. Don't blame Battler for Bernkastel being a cheating whore.

>> No.4993869

>>4993845
So, he is a pussy restrained by love.
>>4993854
So, knows everything and still blunders like an idiot.

>> No.4993881

>>4993869
Look, I'm actually up for some debating regarding Battler and co, but if you're going to give me arguments like that, it's really no use.

You could also try to read the VN.

And, all men are pussied restrained by love, well, apart from us, that is.

>> No.4993891

>>4993881
I have read up to 5.
He is a twat.
You give me abridged versions of events to 6 that do not make him seem better in any way.
Sorry I left my 'Battler tinted' glasses at work.

>> No.4993907
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4993907

Umineko's plot in 5 seconds picrelated.

>> No.4993909

>>4993891
Ah, I agree though, Battler's a jerk in Episode 6.

And, I dunno though, if I were in Battler's situation, I'd be confused as hell.

It's either the woman you love that is a murderer, or your family is.

Not a good situation to be in.

>> No.4993914

I am slightly confused.

Bernkastel is going to be the game master for episode 6. Battler knows the truth.

Isn't this a loss from the start for dear old Bern? Sure, she could change the hows a bit, but the who and the why is gonna stay the same...

>> No.4993917

>>4993914
It's been said at the start of Episode 5 that the games run by Bern and 34 are without Love / Honor.

So it'll probably be a game where everyone is real cruel, or w/e.

>> No.4993921

>>4993907
Ep 1 to 4 at least.

>> No.4993922

>>4993891
You never tried to empathize with how either side would have felt if someone had just straight-out revealed the truth? Battler did have to put up with a lot of shit, but at least we have a basic understanding why Beatrice kept masking each mystery.

>> No.4993924

>>4993909
Considering he did not love her from the start, and he went for the pussy that cause the mess because of ponies, the choice is not that hard.

>> No.4993925

>>4993914
We've had games where the whole pattern is completely changed.
Bern will do another ep3.

>> No.4993933

>>4993922
Cause the actual mystery is not that interesting and we have to procrastinate while R07 keeps trying to write shitty romance involving non-existent people?

>> No.4993936

>>4993914
It's the motives that she's going to rape the hardest. She wants to destroy the board and cause as much suffering as possible, so she'll use her GM authority to spin everything in as bad a light as she can. Since Featherine will be playing the detective, probably Battler and Beato are going to be in some kind of third position where they can only fight with gold truth or something.

>> No.4993939

>>4993917
Well, that's good to hear. I have a funny feeling, that games without love are y'know, the truth.

So instead of seeing Shannon heroically(but vainly) resist the witch, we'll see a deranged maid, putting a bullet into her fiance's brain. We'll see her manipulate people by preying on their emotions, and will witness her indifference to the pleas of the innocent as she kills them in disgustingly cruel ways. We will see Beatrice as she is - a selfish woman stained with blood.

>> No.4993940

>>4993924
Ah, but, you're wrong there.

Battler's had the hots for Beato since episode three.

In Episode 1 he didn't even know her, so you can't really count that, and in Episode 2 he was getting used to the whole meta system.

Okay, I might be a bit pro-Battler, but I can have my opinion, right?

>>4993921

Hm, Nack. Familliar name, were you in one of my streams when Ep 6 came out? I'm almost 100% sure you were.

>> No.4993944

It's unfortunate that BT had to die and Ryukishi has to actually write Umineko himself, now.

>> No.4993950

>>4993940
So 1 game and a half is logical enough to lead to LOVE LOVE KYUN.
Right.
Whether you like Battler or not, it just screams 'PLOOOT CONVENIENCE'

>> No.4993956

>>4993940
Yeah, were you the guy that also streamed the soundtrack? Because I remember going to EP 6 streams but only for a little while, since I didn't want to get spoiled that much.

>> No.4993958

>>4993950
Of course it's Plot Convenience.

"Without love, it cannot be seen." And, also, if you are
>>4993891
and
>>4993726

then you're contradicting yourself. So I'll just think you aren't the same person.

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>>4993914
It might be a bit of a shock to you, but there are other trolls to worry about on the gameboard who are not Kanon or Shannon.

>> No.4993960

>>4993950
You don't want to wake up the shippers right?
I don't advise you so, because I can prove you he liked her from well started ep2 and how their relationship evolved for 4 games till the climax of ep5.

>> No.4993964

>>4993958
I am neither.
But this whole fucking Gospel gets tiring, when the issue is 'Love should not be there in the first place, cause it makes little fucking sense'

>> No.4993965

>>4993956
Sure was.

I'll probably stream Ep 6 translation / Ep 7 'raw' too, so keep it bookmarked.

>> No.4993967

>>4993939
You're misunderstanding something. Lambda and Bern's games have no love because they make everyone look WORSE than they really are and try to frame innocent people. They have no interest in the truth.

>> No.4993974

>>4993967
This. They only want to amuse themselves.

And with Hanyuu being back, things are about to get real fucking ugly.

>> No.4993976

>>4993959
Same shit as every threads.
The Umineko fanbase is fucking shitty.

>> No.4993978

>>4993960
If he did, that makes him even more of a twat.
Great fight against the witch, lover boy.
If you stared outside the TITS, you may have solved the mess sooner.

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>>4993976
Herp.

>> No.4993985

>>4993967
To be quite honest, when it comes down to it, Natsuhi DID murder two people(One of them being a BABY), lie to the entire family about Kinzo's death, abuse her daughter, and generally act like a moron.

Sure, sure, the magic scenes give her noble motives, but motives don't mean anything. A man can justify anything, really.

>> No.4993988

>>4993978
He needed to understand Beato to learn the truth, but since he's fucking dense, he didn't realise he was in love with her, the moment he noticed, he understood it.
Focusing on her tits=beneficial.

>> No.4993989

Also, while we're on the subject anyhow.

The Beato that got 'resurrected' at the end of Episode 6, was that the real Beato?

Was it a mix, or was it Moe!Beato with her memories from the closed rooms?

>> No.4993993

>>4993965
Eh, I kinda lost the link to your stream since I had to reformat my shit. Could you link me again?

>> No.4993996

>>4993976
....You do realize you ARE on /jp/, right?
And of course things get repeated in discussion of a mystery series, what do you expect, us to focus on the characters who aren't suspicious, like Witch Hunt guy?

>> No.4993998

>>4993989
Supposed to be a mix, quite unstable, but knows the truth, so she can act her rol well enough.

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4994001

EXTEEEEEENDING AAAAAARM

>> No.4994003

>>4993993
Yeah sure.

seacatsbgm

I won't link the whole link seeing that's frowned upon these days, it seems.

>> No.4994007

>>4993989
She only has some of her memories. Battler doesn't want to tell her the truth, because he wants her to remember on her own; another miracle. He wants to understand what she was thinking as she played these games with him. So their roles have been reversed.

>> No.4994008

>>4993996
The Umineko fanbase is on another level of shittiness and repetition.
OH GOD MOON-CHAN IS SO SKETCHY SUCH A TROLL XD.

>> No.4994010

>>4994007
Ah yeah, that was it.

I keep forgetting it for some reason.

>> No.4994011

>>4993985
I object to that. I contend that the baby was simply in Natsuhi's imagination. Or she symbolically killed the baby. My waifu is pure.

>> No.4994013

>>4993989
My impression was that she didn't remember anything, she just managed to reach the truth the same way Battler did, by looking at the records for the previous games.

>> No.4994015

>>4994010
Which is quite ironic, now that I think about it.

>> No.4994018

>>4994008
So it's worse than circlejerking about the GREATB /jp/ topics like Touhou and... Touhou, with some brief mentions to VNs and idols?

>> No.4994023

>>4994013
BUt we saw how she remembered a talk with Battler, so we can suppose she remembered 'that' moment.

>> No.4994028

Meh, we'll find out in Episode 7, I guess.

>> No.4994031

>>4994003
Cool

>> No.4994033

>>4994008
Wat?
I just brought up one picture, and personally I find Kyrie far more suspicious than Jessica. Were you here 2 months ago? We had Shkanontrice fever back then, we would talk about that all the dang time. And this thread, which mostly focuses on the nature of episode 6, is not related to Jessica or Kyrie, only insofar as the idea that there may well be other forces at work besides Kanon, Shannon, and Beatrice on the gameboard.

The "XD" you added doesn't even make sense, really. I don't know why you seem to really dislike the discussion, but please don't try to create strawmans of other people by using modified /b/ memes, it's rather unbecoming.

>> No.4994034

>>4994018
Yes, as shitty as they are, at least I don't feel like I'm on fucking gaia when I read them.

>> No.4994036

>>4994028
3 months and a half left.
Also summer and every summer is you know what.

>> No.4994039

>>4993988
So understanding non-existent person solves the event of what transpires in the island.
What matters is what happens, silly motives come later.

>> No.4994041

Hm, the new Comiket is in... August?

So, episode 6 should be out in August too, I guess.

Man, summer vacation, Endless Streamer.

Also, college student, so, don't start.

>> No.4994045

>>4994034
Oh really?
Please take a look about our great: daily Byakuren appreciation thread or commenting which farts smell better. you are just a hater and I've seen you in too many umineko threads doing the same thing.
if you don't like it, hide it, that's all.

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>>4994034
>fucking gaia
Oh, I see, you're either a moron, or a troll. Possibly both.

>> No.4994055

>>4994041
episode 7.
>>4994039
Your whole post is retarded, Beato is not a noon existent person, she herself is everything, the mystery in Rokkenjima, understanding her emans understanding her thought process, who she is and why she kills, silly closed rooms are easy when you know how the creator thinks.

>> No.4994062

>>4994054
Your shitty reaction image sure helps in making your point, faggot.

>> No.4994063

Weird new theory from animesuki: someone on the island (like Shannon) is a medium and can both see and get possessed by ghosts. Kanon, Erika, and 1967 Beatrice are all ghosts that possess the medium at various times and fight over the use of her body.

>> No.4994070

>>4994055
Obviously, my mistake.

Anyhow, I'm off. Have fun discussing / trolling / saging / whatever

>> No.4994071
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>>4994055
UBW - Unlimited Beato Works.

Course, think about it. If everything is Beato, that means you can have as many Beatos as you want, if you live in the meta world.

Not such a bad fate, all things considered....

>> No.4994074

>>4994063
That goes against pretty much all logic. Also, Knox etc.

>> No.4994075

>>4994071
Multiple personalities/incarnation, bipolar murdering bitch...what is not to like?

>> No.4994077

>>4994063
As expected from animesuki, fucking stupid.

>> No.4994080

>>4994071
The lack of LongHair!SuitBeato astounds me.

>> No.4994082

>>4994063
So ghosts are acceptable but witches aren't?

>> No.4994083

>>4994055
>she herself is everything, the mystery in Rokkenjima,
Your idea of a PERSON is fucking weird, much more so loving it.

>> No.4994085

>>4994063
Additional note: the only person on Rokkenjima who we know is 19 years old is 1967 Beatrice, who was 19 when she died.

>> No.4994091

>>4994074
Ghosts were hinted. Which part of Knox does it violate?

>> No.4994092

A witch did it.

>> No.4994095

>>4994091
Supernatural shit is not accepted in general.

>> No.4994106

>>4994095
Really? Because the only thing I see in Knox about supernatural shit is that the detective can't use any of it to solve the crime.

>> No.4994118

>>4994085
> who was 19 when she died.
Wait, how do we know that?

>> No.4994121

>>4994085
Well, see, that's the odd thing, why would Shannon's age be said to be 16(even though, logically, it is and has to be 19)?

I mean, why would Shannon claim she was 16? It's not like Piece Battler would care.

>> No.4994122

>>4994106
A story where the explanation is 'Random guy possesed by a ghost' is retarded regardless, mystery-wise.
You do not need an idiot's ruleset to determine that.

>> No.4994135

>>4994118
I don't think that's confirmed. Kinzo built Kuwadorian at the same time as the mansion, so we don't know when she was taken/born there, or even another 'Beatrice' before her.

>> No.4994136

>>4994118
Kawabata started delivering supplies to Kuwadorian in 1948 and stopped in 1968 when Beatrice-2 died. As long as she died before her birthday in 1968, she would have been 19 years old.

>> No.4994143

>>4994136
Kuwadorian stopped taking deliveries the year Jessica was born, IIRC.

Beato 2 died a year before that.

>> No.4994148

>>4994122
Brain.
Insects.

>> No.4994153

>>4994122
Technically it would be "specific person specifically shown to be able to see ghosts". And it wouldn't require one of the ghosts to be the culprit either.

>> No.4994161

>>4994153

It's still dumb

>> No.4994178

>>4994153
Well, to that, I would say this. With Shannon and Kanon being the same person, you have some issues with people not noticing that they are one and the same, but if they are two DIFFERENT people, one who happens to be dead, and no one notices that Shannon took the place of Kanon, well, that's even more dumb.

>> No.4994189

>>4994143
I don't think we have a clear date for Beato-2's death, except that it was after her conversation with Kinzo in 1967. Also, if she died in 1967, why did Kinzo wait several months to stop deliveries? (Unless nobody found her body and he was holding out hope, or something).

Not that it matters to her age, since she'd be 19 years old after her birthday in that year too.

>> No.4994198

>>4994189
Well then, if she was born in 68, she's the same age as Jessica.

Which means that Jessica isn't committing statatory rape when she macks on Kanon;_;

>> No.4994207

>>4994178
Fair enough. In this case you could say that most of the people who live on the island know about it, and just haven't said anything to the rest of the family because it would sound crazy.

>> No.4994222

>>4994207
THEORY - BUSTED!

>> No.4994235

>>4993713
He's a twat but an awesome twat.

>> No.4994249

>>4994222
It's probably already busted by "Kanon was the 9th victim." It's fun to kick around though, since you can explain a lot of things in unconventional ways.

For instance, the logic error. Erika possesses Shannon and carries her own corpse into the guest room (since two bodies entered the room), followed by Kanon's ghost. Since Kanon knows Battler's hiding inside, he temporarily hijacks Shannon's body and warns Battler to run for it. Then he resets the chain and releases Shannon.

>> No.4994258

>>4994249
What IS the logic error, anyways?

>> No.4994300

>>4994258
Something to do with Battler being in two places at once which meant Kanon had to be Shannon.

>> No.4994343

>>4994300
No, I think it was Battler was locked in a room, Shannon entered it, Kanon left it. Or something like that. And only two people could enter the room.

>> No.4994427

>>4994343
Three people entered the room: Battler, Kanon, and Erika. Battler left the room, while Kanon did not. However, Kanon was nowhere in the room.

>> No.4994468

>>4994427
This. Also, in order to get to the room, Kanon first teleported out of a perfectly sealed room that he was supposedly confirmed in red to be inside.

>> No.4994633

>>4994468

Or be dead.

>> No.4994672

>>4994633

was directed at >>4994427

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