/jp/ - Otaku Culture

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New Ar Tonelico thread, the previous thread (>>4930238) hit the bump limit.

Now with added moe.

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Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8M7BH61Q

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer + plugins + bios. Thanks to Anonymous for this.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

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Are analog sticks required for AT1 and AT2? I have a gamepad that's just like a playstation controller, minus the sticks.

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Which emulator does it use? Didn't pcsx2 have problems with gust games, thus rendering the ar tonelico series somewhat unplayable?

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>>4987254

Nope. I'm playing AT2 with nothing but WSAD as a D-pad and arrow keys as the buttons. AT1 requires a shoulder button (R1/L1) to switch between magic if you want to get into certain places but it's still not needed really.

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It's been a while.

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Please stop bumping your thread with mindless image spam.

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>>4987263
Use an ancient or the SVN build, not the stable and you'll be fine.

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>>4987263

Pcsx2 has updated its plugins quite a bit since then. I'm using the latest beta (R1888) along with the latest plugin releases (March 2010 I think?) and the game runs perfectly fine using GSdx. The only minor issue is some of the battle sprites have small black lines but they're barely noticeable really. Runs at full speed without a problem on my other shitty PC too. My only problem is GSdx saving screenshots as .bmp at their native resolution. It's a minor inconvenience resizing in Photoshop but otherwise it's all good.

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>>4987277
Sorry, but we can't be held responsible for Sion's actions.

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>>4987277

I wish I was cool enough to do so but fortunately it's not me.

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I love these threads. Cloche is mai waifu.

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http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/image/x6mFYnH6nEcrvNAjWyu4JQ==

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Well, let me try to get some conversation going so it isn't just an imagedump.

Has NISA said anything else about localizing AT3 besides, "we're very interested"?

And what do you think are the chances of Gust porting the first two games on the PS3, like the God of War Collection? I think it would give people who haven't played the first two games a chance to finally play them. And if it does happen, NISA could localize it with little trouble (but this time with no glitches in AT2) since the voices and stuff are already done.

Of course, I'm probably speaking selfishly -- I want to play the first two games on my TV and in completely stable condition without all the stuff that comes from playing on an emulator. And be able to support Gust somehow by buying it.

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Cloche is the cancer killing Ar Tonelico

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>>4987388

eh, guess this thread will be just an imagedump; too bad

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>>4987388

There's nothing announced as of yet apart from them being interested. It would be nice to see though.

Gust releasing a pack could be a good idea but Ar Tonelico is a pretty niche series and wouldn't pull anywhere near the amount of sales that a mainstream game like God of War would. Also I doubt NIS would want to release AT2 again considering how horrible it is. The bug at the end was bad (for the Americans at least) but the translation is horrible in places along with typos included in the script.. throw in a horrible dub and I don't see many people interested in getting it again.

Honestly I don't really see a reason not to emulate, it works flawlessly for me on both this machine and on my old PC (E6600 dual core @ 2.4ghz). If you want to support Gust then you're welcome to order the Hymmnos albums and such.

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Does anyone have a good link for the other hymmnos music like EXEC_NULLASCENSION, EXEC_HARVESTASYA, and salavec rhaplanca?

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>>4987635
Emulating is better than the real thing. I played the JP version on my PS2 and there was slowdown all over the battles. It seriously made it hard to guard in the last boss battles.

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I see. I guess I'll try this emulating thing. It's just last I tried the ps2 emulator, I was overwhelmed with all the options. Maybe that "Lazy Pack" from OP would help.

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>>4987768

I'm going to assume it's easy to rip a ps2 dvd with iso buster, blind read, alcohol 120%, or some other tool so it can be used on a PC emulator, correct?

If emulation is a much better experience, I might as well HDMI my PC out to the TV and use a wired 360 controller.

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>>4987924
Pretty much, yes.

The ATFLPP in the second post also contains torrents for them as well if you'd prefer to just download them.

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Well this will be a short lived thread.

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>>4988093
I have no problems with this

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>>4988104

And why is that?

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>>4988024

Not to mention, it has the undub and bugfix patches applied to AT2.

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>>4988129

Oh shit, really? Going through the motions to rip my dvd would be a pain, so I think I'll do the impossible and just download it.

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>>4988138

Yeah, for AT1 it's a tossup, but for AT2 emulation is pretty much superior all-around.

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This torrent needs some more seeders. Going to take all week at this download rate.

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>>4988168

Yeah, I'm only getting about 100k/s from both, which is piss poor considering the torrent I downloaded earlier was humming along at 1.5mb/s.

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In the "Lazy Pack" in >>4987202, is it the undub of AT2 or the english dub?

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So, M.Y.U is easy with the power of fundoshi[/spoiler

Also, Tilia is hnnnnngggggggghhhh

Also, Soma's blushing portrait is hnnnnggggghhhhhh

GJ GUST. I'm going to enjoy phase 4, I can tell.

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I'm the one who posted the lazy pack, and I'm seeding as hard as I can. I can only upload at about 250 KB/s, though. Unfortunately, nearly everyone just leeches and drops off the torrent after they're done. Step up, Ar Tonelibros!

>>4988292

It's the bugfixed undub.

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>>4988390
>It's the bugfixed undub

I see. Thought it was the patched english dub since I tend to prefer english voices in my animu games if I can help it.

I can always find it later I suppose, need to free up disc space before I can even begin torrenting AT2.

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>>4988442 I tend to prefer english voices in my animu games if I can help it.
You've got some sort of bad dub fetish?

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This game is trolling me. I find out in the previous thread that I can use crystals once for a permanent level increase for my dirty Reyvateils so I decide to head down to Metafalss, I needed to get a new weapon for Cocona anyway. But before doing so I decided to give dive therapy do all the IPD's I had contained since I only had 1 person helping with Replekia. A considerable amount of time later I've cured 30 or so of them and decide to head down just to be greeted with this. Imageshack used because the image limit was reached in this thread.

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7281/snap155.jpg

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Torrents don't seed themselves. You can both complain about slow speeds but you'll probably cancel it the moment it's finished.

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>>4988442

The PAL release has the bugfix, the NTSC doesn't. I seriously recommend you use the undub though, even if you do love dubs AT2's is seriously bad.

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>>4988453

Maybe. I have a higher tolerance for english voices, anyway; most jrpg players are always like, "There are no good english voice-acting, no exceptions!"

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>>4988553

Nah, it's actually video games that sometimes have the budget to hire professional english actors/voice actors. It's anime that's terrible in almost every case, with a few specific exceptions.

That being said, AT2 doesn't have a very good dub at all.

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>>4988553

I quite like some JRPG dub voices like Tales of Vesperia, Lost Odyssey etc. but AT2 really does have a horrible dub. Youtube a few clips if you want to see for yourself.

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>>4987417
For some reason, Cloche always reminded me of Sheryl too.

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>>4988553
>there are no good english-dubs, no exceptions
Man, I hate people who have never played a game with Scott Menvile in it.

AR2 does have a shitty dub, but that's really a very minor complaint.

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>>4988466
You can only go back down after you complete Phase 2, which is pretty short.

Also remember to have at least 30 uncure I.P.D. to trigger a Dualstall conversation with Jacqli later.

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>>4989139

Yeah, I'm just a little tired of running around Gaea doing tasks for Cloche, it's pretty damn tedious. Thanks for the tip for the conversation.

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It feels kind of silly reporting AT images in an AT thread. Thanks for the tumourous image dump.

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>>4988616
AT2 has fine voice acting. The voices fit the characters fine.

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>>4989769

I'm not sure if that's a subtle hint at saying that the characters are shit or if you actually genuinely like the sad attempt of a dub in AT2.

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The whole thread gets image dumped but only 3 images are randomly deleted and the NSFW images remain. The meido sure is interesting sometimes. Oh well, this thread will probably die with the LULZ EPIK GET XDDDDD faggotry anyway.

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Sometimes Mir sounds like Aurica except with a slightly deeper voice. So I guess that Japanese VA's vocal range isn't that great. Still works though.

>>4990620
It's Sion spamming Cloche again, but it wouldn't be seen as trolling to the untrained eye. Sort of like how he spams Mion/Shion in the Rika threads. Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't.

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Oh, I know it's Sion. I just thought it was odd that 3 random images were deleted and not them all or even just the NSFW ones.

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>>4991249

Hnnnnggggg

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Does anyone know who Harvestasya's Seiyuu is? Is it the same as Finnel's?

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>>4993187

I'm not sure who it is but I'm pretty sure it's not Finnel's VA.

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>>4993187
Asakawa Yuu.

Finnel's is Kitamura Eri.

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>>4991249
Whats that black thing on top of her head?

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>>4993327

Shun stroking her hair, I think.

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>>4993327
One of Shun's arm/antenna things.

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>>4993318

>Rumi - Immoral Sisters

It arouses me knowing I can hear their moans.

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>>4993318
Hmm... I thought Harvestasya might be Eri Kitamura too, because she sounds like Siesta 410.

Oh well.

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>>4993187
Isn't Harvestasya sung by Shikata Akiko?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7srZCJF4MAM

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>>4995935

Yes, Akiko Shikata did do a song for one of her albums entitled EXEC_HARVESTASYA/. but it's unrelated. Harvestasya XP and Vista are characters from Ar Tonelico 3, she's pretty important to the storyline. I'm not really sure about anything else since I haven't played AT3 yet, I'd post an image of them but Sion bombed this thread with Pastatits. This is Harvestasya's Hymmnos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0yCr8LnP9w

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>>4993318
Awesome. Yuu Asakawa's voice is hot.

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>>4996857

I'd remake the thread but it's not even worth it until the LULZ EPIK GET XDDDD is over.

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I think I'm going to play Ar Tonelico 1 soon, it just finished downloading. What should I expect, any tips for a first-timer?

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>>4997623

There's not really any tips to give really. It's straight forward in pretty much all aspects of the game. The fights are easy, there's no grinding needed to do and the cosmospheres are just mashing X (It's like you're really playing Final Fantasy XIII). Just sit back and enjoy the fun.

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I read an faq that says if I don't max out Shurelia's cosmosphere, I get an "incomplete" ending. What do they mean by that? Is it just another way of saying I'll miss out on Aurica or Misha's "true end"?

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>>4998281
Cosmospheres are easy to max out, you'll do them anyway since you need those high level Song Magic.

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>>4998281

You gain Dive Points for how much burst/damage you do in AT1 and your general combat grade in AT2. Dive points come in stupid amounts to the point where they are completely irrelevant. Doing cosmospheres just takes time but they're enjoyable to go through.

As for the endings you don't really get much of a choice, really. AT1 has:

Aurica end (Phase 2)
Aurica route > Aurica end
Aurica route > Shurelia end
Misha end (Phase 2)
Misha route > Misha end
Misha route > Shurelia end
Bad end (you'd have to go out of your way to even bother getting this so don't worry about it)

They're blatant choices that you don't even need to worry about and the cosmosphere makes no difference whatsoever to the ending of AT1. You'd be silly not to do them all anyway. AT2 is a little different since you're locked into a route after you past level 5 in their cosmosphere but AT1 doesn't have this so just dive away.

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Is anyone still actively translating the Toukouspheres? They're interesting/funny to read but only a handful of them have been translated and the last update was a couple of months ago.

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>>4996224
Ahh, well, I'd modify her permissions... just as soon as AT3 has an english version.

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>>4998326
The bad end isn't that hard to get, just before you come to the conclusion you've been sent to find, you double back and fight your way through. You'll only be a couple levels short and Blast Fill makes up for any deficiencies. I've managed to win with the party's levels in the mid 50s, and it could probably be done lower if you tried.

You do have to go out of your way for it, but you have to go out of your way for Shurelia's last song magic, so it isn't like that's the only obscure thing in the game.

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But the battle loli is worth it.

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>>4999147
As is laughing at Lyner for being a hardheaded idiot in the bad end.

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I like how there's not even a closure scene. Just "lol you fucked up" then the game ends.

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All righty then. Thank you both.

Also, "Get" time is almost here. Thread bumpers, you better prepare yourselves.

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>>5000945 here

Oh never mind, looks like it's already passed.

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Oh ho, this thread survived. I guess having a get while the Americans are sleeping does help.

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>>5002270
Americans are not sleeping at 5 PM EST

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>>5003536

It happened at 12. NEET's are sleeping and normalfags are at school/college.

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>>4999093

>just as soon as AT3 has an english version.

It's being released a week after Otome Function.

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>>5004393

Sleeping at 12?

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more like sleeping at 10 am.

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>>5005819

A whole 2 hours?

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Link?

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>>5007376

Clearly you missed the joke.

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Does Luca actually become stable in the story? After playing AT2 for a little more I've just realized how much she keeps changing. Start off with the generic childhood friend, everything is going fine. Then you have the manipulative bitch who clearly states she's using Croix and she also runs off with Shun etc. and basically completely goes against Croix/Cloche. Next thing they're singing Metafalica together with no problems (granted it was to 'save the world') and now Luca is suddenly interested in Cloche's past and all is well as we try and save her.

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Just finished AT3 today for the first time (Finnel's True End).

I was relaxing while the credits were rolling when suddenly the intro themes from AT, AT2, and AT3 started playing sequentially, and I was like FUCK YEAH!

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>>5009399

Nope, not really.

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>>5007514
Clearly. Should I assume it was a DNF analogue?

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>>5009399
Luca becomes completely unimportant to the story, apart from singing towards the end. Even in her "Route", Cloche is clearly the main Reyvateil, except for a ~5 minute section of the ending.

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>>5010267

Pretty much.

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All of the 'Singing Hill' themes are pretty awesome, even the ones that weren't used in the games.

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Yeah, Luca is kind of... unimportant. Looks good and has a great voice actor, but overall, not really important.

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For one thing, Luca's path really feels odd, because she doesn't really have any major issues besides looking for her sister, which resolves itself in story (maybe there's more in her cosmosphere, I switched to Jacqli instead, but who cares) and her dark side is a huge bitch for no apparent reason. Add that to not very useful in battle, and Mir/Cloche is the best choice for combat.

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>Add that to not very useful in battle

Wrong. Without her how else would you hear SUGOI SUGOI after every fight?

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>>5010773
I actually missed that when I got my Cloche back.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fVSbBeULas

You can't unhear it.

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>>5010733

She's even more psychotic in her deeper cosmosphere levels than you'd probably think. It's not for any particular reason, though; she's just an insane bitch.

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>>5011362
Shit. Now that I listen to it again, it's the same chant that is used when you clear a CS on AT3.

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>>5011544

Sure it's not the other one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul8Kw68Zx8k

It's the more 'serious' version of the Ar Tonelico chant.

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>>5011572
Nope, it's definitely the cheery one from the bath scenes.

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Shut the fuck up, /jp/.
God Damn it.

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>>5011594

Interesting. I thought it would have used a different version considering AT2 already uses the cheery version at the end of each cosmosphere level.

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>>5011598

Problem, Anonymous?

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Here's a little gift for all you Ar Tonelico players.
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Updated super-filter for AT spam. I've included pretty much every special character he can use. Just paste the line into your comments filter.

Using pastebin as I don't want to get nuked when moot pushes the button that bans everyone who used a special character.

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>>5013627

You have my thanks.

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Well that's interesting. Mir joins and you can instantly dive into her. Fuck yes.

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Do I obtain sphere keys as I progress through the story? I doubt I need to go back up since Cloche is now resurrected so I haven't got any yet and noticed I couldn't progress in the Infelsphere without the next key.

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>>5015269

Yeah, you'll just get them as you go along.

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>>5013627
Sweet. Thanks.

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>>5015742

Good to know. Also what the fuck, I finally got around to getting all the crystals that I could and now my Reyvateils have better stats than my meatshields.

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>>5016349
Get used to it. My waifu and the other 2 were at lvl99 while the meatshields were at lv62 when I finished the game.

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Ah, good old in-game dictionary. Ayatane Youke - tl;dr since it's too long for entry here, the Ayatanes are members of the Manof Teru clan, can foresee the future (but only in very vague terms), worked with Sol Cluster to cause the Grathnode Inferia thinking that they could prevent humanity from wiping itself out, and have worked in the shadows to prevent the world from going to hell at least three times since. Most of the rest of the Teru gave up on meddling with humanity, since they were sick of what humans had done in the Seven Scars incident, but the Ayatane couldn't stand not doing stuff since they kept seeing horrible visions of the world ending, so they worked with Clusternia to try to revive the world. They knew that the reyvateils were the key to doing so, but their dislike of humans kept them from understanding that they'd need human cooperation, as well.

AT3 Ayatane would be called Kureha Pel Kirinami in Sol Cluster; AT1 Ayatane, Ayatane Michitaka Kirinami, would probably be Michitaka Pel Kirinami. Incidentally, Mir created AT1 Ayatane based on the Ayatane that came to try to break her out of the Silvahorn during the second age (he failed and died).

I also just got to the point in phase 4 last night where Aoto asks Cocona and Sasha about Meta Falss, and Cocona's all "our homeland is a green and rich floating continent led by a tsundere and a dorodere miko". Man, I love this series so much.

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http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/05/02/ar-tonelico-3-gravure-video-exceedingly-sexy/

Yes, I know Sankakucomplex is shitty, but I can't find another source with screenshots.

I want Ar_Ru to feed me cake ;_;

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>>5018132

I haven't played AT3, but I thought that the person that Mir based her Ayatane off of was a woman? I'd post a screenshot, but we appear to have hit the limit.

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>>5018613
So that's what's on the DVD that comes with the settei book. Good thing that'll be coming on Monday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5019012
Ayatane Kureha, the AT3 character (aka Lu Fan), is a man, I'm pretty sure - but I could be wrong. However, that's not the person Mir based her Ayatane off of.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm fairly sure Rufan is male

I never realised Sakia-Rumei has twintails. This makes
me feel even worse that Saki stole her body

[Anonymous No.]

Well, in AT2 when Mir is talking about the person that she based her mind guardian off of, she specifically refers to them as a woman. Someone pulled out their JP copy and verified that it wasn't just a mistranslation, either. As for why she would gender-swap her mind guardian, well...maybe it just "turns her on" like combat meidos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5019206

At the same time Ayatane is pretty gender ambiguous. He seemed like a male in AT1 and yet I seen a screenshot a few threads back where Jakuri clearly states that Ayatane is female. Maybe he's to cater to the trap fetish since Ar Tonelico hits pretty much every fetish out there..

>>5018613

And this is why I love Ar Tonelico.

>>5019019

Lucky bastard. How much was it?

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>5018613
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10560768

and Technical Explanation - http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm10568520

And yes my penis exploded into a thousand fragments after watching it all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5019012

>I'd post a screenshot, but we appear to have hit the limit.

Yeah.. I really should make a new topic but I'm not sure if I should let this get the last 30 posts or so until it hits the bump limit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5019722
In the Settei book, it states Ayatane was designed to be a rival/"brother-like figure" for Lyner.

Also, in the backstory for Mir and Ayatane translated here:

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Settei_book_2_translation/Heroines_section#Written_Epi
sode_3:_Knight_of_Beginnings_.7EMir_and_Ayatane.7E

It refers to them as "He", although my Japanese isn't good enough to determine if they're referred to with gender-neutral words rather than male ones in the original text without taking far longer than I'd like.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5019913
>　警備兵が出てきた。彼は腰に下げていた二本
の異国の刀を振り回し、一瞬にして警備兵を倒
した。そしてただひたすら逃げ続ける。
Security guards appeared. He swung the two exotic swords that hung at his waist and defeated them in a flash, and they continued running.

It would be interesting to see the text from AT2. I'm probably more interested in getting Tilia end in AT3 than scraping it off my copy of JP AT2 tonight, though.

[Anonymous No.]

Hmm, going against a level 7 IPD with only 1 Reyvateil wasn't a good idea...

[Anonymous No.]

>>5020692
Nah, it's a lot of fun if you do it at the right time and maybe equip some Guard+(++). I'd say enjoy it now, because otherwise you'll regret it when the battles get way too easy too fast. When I played through AT2, there was basically never any point in using Replekia except for lulz.

[Anonymous No.]

... so, according to her status screen profile, Tilia dislikes Eolia, but she has a talk matter where she's all "oh, I hope that other Origin I met 700 years ago is doing well!" Make up your mind, dammit, GUST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5020794

Yeah, it was a nice challenge, I managed to get one down in about 15 minutes. Loads of revives and potions used but I managed to kill her. It was close too, both Croix and Cocona were KO'd and Mir was one hit from dying. Also Replekia is fucking stupid, I never use it since it makes an easy game easier.

>>5021102

It's pretty well known that Shurelia and Tilia have a strong dislike for each other. Maybe she's referring to Frelia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>5020692
I once figh a lv9 around lv35-40, feels quite good (no girls power at that time, 2 Reyvateil though)

>>5020794
except if you want to beat... what was her name again, reka? about 50+ times

>>5018613
I want a ps3 damnit

[Anonymous No.]

>>5021433
Er, I should have said "that Origin from Sol Ciel I met". The talk topic name is "Now Getting Lost", so she's clearly talking about Shurelia. (Besides that, she also mentions Eleno, and says that she got really happy when Eleno was around, so yeah.)

I've been wondering for a while, though; what's the deal with the whole Shurelia/Tilia thing? I've seen it theorized that it's because Mir was heralded as the second coming of Tilia, so naturally Shurelia would have some reaction to that, but that wouldn't explain why Tilia doesn't like Shurelia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5021488

>I once figh a lv9 around lv35-40, feels quite good (no girls power at that time, 2 Reyvateil though)

Highest I've met is level 7 but I'm not exactly going out of my way to find them. I didn't even know about Girl Power until half way through Phase 2 and even now I'm not really using them for anything other than getting them all to level 4. Maybe I'll start using them when I find some decent ones, most of my IPD's are contained since I want to get that talk topic with Mir. Having only one Reyvateil really puts you at a disadvantage though.

[Anonymous No.]

I.P.D.s? Levels didn't matter until they pull out THE BIG WAVE God, that Song Magic was a horrible experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5022080

Yeah, I'm >>5021433. That was the main reason I was struggling. Mir only had her starting song magic so her healing spell was only healing up about half the damage of THE BIG WAVE. It certainly doesn't help that the fucking screen shakes making it near impossible to see when to guard..

[Anonymous No.]

>>5022201
Well there's only like 3~4 I.P.D.s with that spell, and rest assured, there won't be shit worse than this.

[Anonymous No.]

I cleared Jakuri's 3rd cosmosphere and got that talk topic regarding her mind guardian. She seems pretty confident that Ayatane is a girl, at least as her guardian anyway.

[Anomynous No.]

>>5022244
Kinda sad, most of the game is easy already enough. THE BIG WAVE actually made some of the fights easy. Another one I had fun with was a level 4 that had some ridiculous heal spell that would recover all her health. Had to replakia that one twice (fired too soon the first time) because the vanguards were useless.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5022880

I remember that fight, it was fucking stupid. I only won because I chained a decent burst magic combined with Croix's special attack otherwise it was pointless attacking her since she just fully healed it all..

[Anomynous No.]

>>5023167
It was nice to find something that wasn't just "hit it with the vanguards and use the RTs for a bit of extra damage"

[Anonymous No.]

>>5023178

That's true but it still seemed a bit silly at the time. At least I've hard some marginally hard fights in AT2 so far compared to AT1 that had pretty much none that I recall.

[Anomynous No.]

>>5023248
Bad end at mid/upper 40s was hard (it's been a while). beyond that though, I agree. I've heard they turn up the difficulty a bit in AT3, so I'll be interested in seeing how it plays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5023279

Unfortunately I didn't even know that was where the decision for the bad end was since the answer seemed pretty obvious so I never personally got to experience how difficult that fight is. Sadly this meant that the entire game was just a faceroll from start to finish, especially if you install some decent crystals and augment some decent crystals on your equipment.

[Anomynous No.]

>>5024375
Bad end in AT1 that is.

[Anonymous No.]

Updated AnT spam filter to be compatible with the latest wave.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>5025020
Update:
Edited the filter a bit as it was filtering some legit posts.

pastebin dhawt com/W70x73Wk

[Anonymous No.]

THE BIG WAVE reyvateils in AT2 were the only challenging enemies for me due to
1. You couldn't see the goddamn guard meter, there was so much shaking
2. I didn't know where to equip girl power until the middle of the final phase.

I still feel stupid because of #2.

[Anomynous No.]

>>5025535
Don't feel so bad, latter part of phase 3 for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5025535
Yeah, god damn the PS2 lag, seriously.

>>5023279
Mmmmmmm, not really in my opinion - maybe the phase 4 bosses will prove me wrong.

Finishing the M.Y.U. fight in time (towards the end of phase 2) is pretty hard ... UNLESS you had the foresight to synthesize the super special moves before-hand, in which case it's kind of trivial. The phase 3 boss fights (Ar Ru in all routes, and Harvestasya in the phase 3 normal end) are kind of hard, but not that bad. The Kanade/Raki equivalent (Akane and her Antibody, Kukurou) could be interesting in later fights, but I can't really compare them to the previous games because I haven't fought their bonus bosses.

I'm playing on Normal, though, so Hard could be a different story! I also haven't finished the true end path yet (I just got to the point where it branches between Tilia's true and normal ends), so theoretically there could be harder bosses at the end of that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5025535
>2. I didn't know where to equip girl power until the middle of the final phase.
Haha, me too. But things like the guard frame boost were pretty damn broken. PERFECT GUARD, EVERY TIME, ALL THE TIME.

[Anomynous No.]

>>5026006
>hard mode
There have been so many games that could seriously have used this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5026006
And speaking of the bonus boss, hahahaha, Brave Gate. Shogun of Reyvateils, do you have enough swords?

Hmm, looks like you can't just do tons of back-to-back fights with the bonus boss - is that new? The boss is also giving up items pretty quickly - I've only done two fights, but each time I've gotten a gallery picture and a recipe card (possibly for the best weapons in the game, but I require more Yuteria, so I can't synthesize them yet).

[Anonymous No.]

>>5025107
After noticing some issues, I've updated the filter so that the roman numeral for '3' won't be filtered.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>5026006

>Yeah, god damn the PS2 lag, seriously.

Even on an emulator with zero lag it's near impossible to guard against it relatively well. The screen literally shakes so much that you just can't see anything so you just have to time it yourself which doesn't exactly work very well.

>>5024530

Yeah, that's what I was talking about. AT1 was completely easy but I never got to experience the bad end so I can't tell if it was hard or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5026687
I believe you can only do up to three fights against the bonus boss to unlock images; I'm not sure if you can do subequent fights against her but those first three are the only ones that unlock anything.

Also if she isn't allowing you the choice to fight her, go and do between 8-10 random battles and come back, should proc the choice for the third fight.

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ Anon, I have a bone to pick with you and your ending spoilers. A few threads back, you were all the ending of AT3 is really final, in fact, it's so final that all of the towers shut down after everything is said and done. I just finished the Tilia and Cocona endings, though, and I don't see that at all. I mean, Tilia is going to die in a few years because all the energy exerted saving the world shortened the telomeres in her spectrum gene ;_____;, but not a god damn thing else along those lines happens. The ending was pretty much, yeah, saved the world, Tilia's gonna die in a few years, let's all party.

Seriously, am I missing something? Is the game seriously going to punish me that hard for getting Saki's ending? Or did that Anonymous just not know what he was talking about?

Well, I guess I'll find out tomorrow when I can read the settei book anyway, but. プーだよ、プー！

[Anonymous No.]

>>5029592
It's actually just the third tower that stops functioning. There's nothing to suggest that Ar Tonelico and Sol Marta stopped functioning too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>5029592
shortened the telomeres in her spectrum gene

Heh, genes don't have telomeres. It seems I'll have to play AT to see what that's all about.

>>4987202
I love the Rafflesia corpseflowers in the background.

[Anonymous No.]

>Posts: 300

Hopefully the new thread wont get image dumped..

>>5029592

> Tilia's gonna die in a few years

This is why I fucking hate the endings of Ar Tonelico. Either the best waifu's in the game will seriously outlive you (Origins, Misha, Mir etc.) or they get the short end of the stick. It may seem like a happy ending or whatever but when you actually think about it they all seem pretty sad in a way.

[Anonymous No.]

New thread at >>5029899.