/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

New minori thread.

summary of minori's stance :

1. minori doesn't allow usage of their software outside Japan
2. minori doesn't allow buying/selling of their software outside Japan
3. Said softwares does not work without Japanese operating system
3.1 The software is locked intentionally to only work with Japanese OS
4. minori website blocks all foreign access
5. minori requests foreigners to solve the rapelay problem as if all foreigners are responsible6. NNL actually did contacted minori regarding the wind translation long ago but was ignored
7. minori demands unrealistic conditions if anyone want to obtain their license, doubtful if they actually want anyone to talk to them at all

[Anonymous No.]

Thank the moralfag niggers for this.

[Anonymous No.]

So their management and legal team are retards.

Big deal. We'll still pirate their shit.

[Anonymous No.]

You forgot:

0. minori only makes average games

[Anonymous No.]

>New minori thread.
What for?

[Anonymous No.]

Who cares?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970542
You don't use 0. in a list of points, silly. Use 8!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970547
Racism is bad

[Anonymous No.]

Facts(?) on the situation :
- The edits that was made is from the manager of minori himself, named nbkz
- the manager (nbkz) is apparently a douchbag and there are people unsatisfied with him (in Japan)
- Minori disregards Mangagamer when bought up to conversation because Mangagamer's staffs are apparently oil-and-water with minori staff

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970551
It's the most important point.

[Anonymous No.]

So yeah, some Japanese people are horribly xenophobic.
Nothing really new here, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970559
>because Mangagamer's staffs are apparently oil-and-water with minori staff

Hmmm? Are minori basically saying that in terms of staff, they're poles apart?

[Anonymous No.]

By the way, the bump limit is 300 now. There was no need to make another thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970564
I'll trade you for 3 then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970559
>Mangagamer's staffs are apparently oil-and-water with minori staff
Well go fucking figure, MG wants to localize eroge, whereas minori wants to keep them in glorious nippon.

[Anonymous No.]

Source on Mangagamers and minori relationship.

345 ：名無したちの午後：2010/04/24(土) 04:16:00 ID:/E9ibY8W0
ＭａｎｇａＧａｍｅｒｓの中の人とｍｉｎｏｒｉは犬猿の仲だからなあｗ
ＭａｎｇａＧａｍｅｒｓの名前が出てムキになってて受けるｗ

[Anonymous No.]

English VN community status:

☑ TOLD
☐ NOT TOLD

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970598
The joke is on you, I was untold of this until now!

[Anonymous No.]

>1. minori doesn't allow usage of their software outside Japan
>2. minori doesn't allow buying/selling of their software outside Japan
Copyright law doesn't work like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970621
Well better sue them instead of whining there

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970593
So minori staff get pissed just from hearing about MG?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970634
That is what was implied in that post.
Fact or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970628
Sue them on what grounds?
It's just that their claims are meaningless without legal standing. They can "not allow" using and selling their games outside Japan all they want but that doesn't mean it's actually illegal. Kind of like an EULA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970621
The guy hasn't understood what minori meant by saying that they don't approve of making their games available in other countries than Japan. The game was made in respect of japanese laws and cultural context, and this is why this game should be played only in Japan because it has been released for Japan only.
minori does not intent to deny you the right to acquire a copy from outside Japan, although they do not approve of it because it's been made for use in Japan only. Other countries have different culture and more importantly different laws, and you could be hanged, stoned to death or just be charged for posession of child pornography or obscene material in other countries by playing or owning such games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970593
ソースは2ch（ｷﾘｯ

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970621
It might now. See DRM + anti-circumvention laws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970669
Fair enough.
Although that much should be obvious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970534
>>4970542

This.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970669
>minori does not intent to deny you the right to acquire a copy from outside Japan, although they do not approve of it because it's been made for use in Japan only
This is simply not true.
They clearly stated they PROHIBIT the use and sell/but outside Japan.

>私たちのゲームは全て日本国内の法令を遵守して制作しており、また日
本国外への販売、日本国外での使用は全て禁止しております。
Taken from http://www.tsukuru.info/tlwiki/index.php?title=User_talk:218.219.158.186

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970669

There are plently of shovelware in consoles that was developed for Japan only.

Heck we have Oneechabra series as a prime example, down to consoles having region lock and yet have seen this kind of crap before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970703
Read OP's post again.
I think it should give you some ideas.

[Anonymous No.]

I bought eden* in Japan and brought it back home.
Am I a bad person now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970696
私たちのソフトウェアのパッケージ裏面には「日本国内専用」と記述させて
頂いております。これは少なくとも日本国内で当社のソフトウェアを使用
したことによって起きた事象は当社の責任が発生する可能性がありうると
いう意味です。合法か違法か？　という点については「日本国内では合法、
他は厳密な調査していないので不明」としか言いようがありません。

same poster from the same page

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970711

No, it does not ... what I see is the usual xenophobia, the "Rapelay incident" only existed because of Amazon and its effect is due to then being spineless tools.

Why you think both China and S. Korea OPPOSE Japan to get a Security Council seat? because they know that it would be the US getting another seat.

[Anonymous No.]

Until you guys stand up and fight all the stupid moralfags who threaten 2D erotic games, you don't deserve to play them, now fuck off.

-Japan

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970696
AND THAT'S THEIR DAMN RIGHT. However they still cannot deny you the right to buy a copy because they are just a developer and don't own or control all ways of distribution. And if you still insist on buying a copy it's your own risk and minori doesn't approve of it and won't provide you any support in regard to their products.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970738

Hold on ... dispatching termination squad to your location.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>4970742
Dude S.K is even more of a vassal of the US than is Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970738
Yes.
minori clearly stated that by doing so you may hurt them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970746

Actually they do, however its out of their hands after it hits retailers.

Its Free Trade, they cannot stop me from entering a shop they sold copies of their game and buy some copies, to do otherwise is a violation of Free Trading Agreements (and likely more that a few of their own laws).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970690
They'd have to include some kind of check hat verifies your current location is in Japan which would most likely require an Internet connection. I'm not sure if this kind of DRM would be well received even by the Japanese themselves.

>>4970703
Blame the console manufacturers for including region locks. You can't really expect a company to invest money in a market that might not buy your game. Ironically the only console without region locking is Japanese (the PS3) and it doesn't have as many non-localized exclusives as the Xbox360 or even the Wii.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970740
>3.1 The software is locked intentionally to only work with Japanese OS

[Anonymous No.]

Cool thread guys, but check out these doubles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970761

Even South Korea does not want Japan with a seat (then again, Korea is not exactly much of a fans of Japan ... like China!)

[Anonymous No.]

it's almost as if... this is how they're trying to limit liability for themselves in case another foreigner at CNN wants to write a front-page piece about them!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970772
DVD region locks works way different.
They serve as a protection to potential lost sales for localized versions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970774
But that's because it's Korea and not because the US controls (or does have the ability to do so ) Japan militarily

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970773
That's very different from not allowing your games being sold outside Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970772

Region locks are not really the issue, there are a lot of factors and I remind you ... Oneechanbara was released in PAL.

I own Vortex for the Xbox 360 myself.

The point is, you can develop for a specific market and lacks the means or do not think its cost effective to localize and publish outside that market nut there is a world of difference of doing that do it because you are a xenophobe.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't even see why minori is even making a big deal about the gaijin moralfag issue. The only reason Rapelay was targeted was because it was openly for rape, hence the name and the whole basis of the game.
All of minori's works are pretty tame, anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Quit being so fucking butthurt, OP.

I but you didn't even give a shit about this game before your heard about this.

[Anonymous No.]

Doesn't DVD region locks have no legal powers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970796
If all their games are as shitty as Wind, he shouldn't give a shit about it now either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970786

The US controls Japan foreign policy that does extend to military.

Forget that Japan entered the coalition of the willing?

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly, I can't blame anyone else but these moral fuck heads where they think sex in games are more of a problem than other global crisis we have now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970785
Doesn't matter because it's the same method. Same with local online stores. It's completely legal and if minori states clearly on it's products that their products are being released for Japan specifically than it's their right to do so and you cannot object that. Sure you still can buy a copy through various channels or create a Japanese PSN account from outside Japan but that doesn't mean it has been approved by minori or in the example of the PSN by Sony. And Sony could lock their stores by IP regions and it still would be legal to do so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970814
Fucking this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970814
Femnazis are the source of problems much worse than a little bitching about rape games.

[Anonymous No.]

We already have Wind.
NNL will still release ef.
Eden was a close project so being taken off the TLWiki doesn't affect it getting done.

What have minori actually changed and why are people getting so annoyed about it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970817
No. DVD companies can't fire legal actions against people who bought different region DVDs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970830

We are not, Minori just painted a big bulleye on their back and declared open season for us to call then a bunch of xenophobes.

Things get done as long someone have big enough balls for it, look at the music industry and their continued failure to end file sharing.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know how it is in the USA, but I know for sure that in my country, even if some japanese company sued me, I would never be judged by a court. Because no prosecutors and judges are going to get their asses out of their houses for video games. If I were the one responsible for the translation project, I would have told minori to suck my dick because they can't touch me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970837
I haven't mentioned legal actions anywhere. Just like in case of minori, just because you buy a copy from outside Japan even though minori does not approve of it, they still won't send a squad of loli ninjas to your location to retrieve the products. However they could restrict access to services of their products if they had the infrastructure, like online registration or access to online servers from games with online features.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970830
Pay attention, faggot. *Eden was dropped because of this minori shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970859

I think it would, its not criminal court but civil ... of course being a civil actions means they would be the ones PAYING for the suit to start and in my country the side that loses the court have to pay the legal fees.

So it would be rather expensive to start that could lead to it becoming even more expensive in the case the judge decides in your favor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970859
That's probably what NNL is doing right now. Give minori a middle finger and tell them to fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970870
It's not like they made much/any progress in the past month...

[Anonymous No.]

The rest of the eroge companies should follow suit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970900
ohu

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970900
and see what happens...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970917
they neither gain nor lose any appreciable amount of sales??

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970928
They lost the entire eroge industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970917

You mean nothing?

Not like we support the industry, bro.

You guys really shouldn't care. Japanese people are being weird again, as usual. Carry on and keep calm.

[Anonymous No.]

>Stops gaijins from making legit purchases of their games
>Has absolutely no effect on whether gaijin pirates will be able to acquire their games
Good job achieving nothing except hinder potential sales from importers, Minori~n.

[Anonymous No.]

I was just reading the minori 2ch thread and saw some posts saying that the version of Rapelay that was on sale on amazon was packaged with an English patch. Was that actually the case? I didn't follow the news on it that closely, but I thought it was just an imported copy of the Japanese release.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972044
It was machine translated (with no sort of editing, pretty hilarious sight) and released like that. No patch, it was in-built.

[reiserFS !Hc6EcVkstI No.]

Translating isn't illegal when not being distributed commercially , I'm staying with my argument.

[Anonymous No.]

Instead of whining, just get /b/ to raid them. Show them the power of Anonymous, they'll give in pretty soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972051
Ah, thanks. I can see why they might be upset about that.

>>4972081
Too bad you're wrong. Translating itself is fine, but s soon as you distribute the translation, it's illegal in any country that signed on to Berne Convention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972092

[Anonymous No.]

link to the 2ch thread?

[Anonymous No.]

NNL has a poll on their website on whether they should release ef or not. Go vote.

[reiserFS !Hc6EcVkstI No.]

>>4972096
>Berne Convention
Don't get me started on this shit, it's flawed to hell.

Also, host you server in any other country that didn't sign the convention, problem fixed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972138
>host you server in any other country that didn't sign the convention
You say that like any of the countries that didn't sign are connected to the internet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972138
>iraq

Hmm. So to host eroge (virtual porn game) with rape and lolis I'd have to pretty much live in a shitfuck nation where every day I could get shot at and be killed?

[Anonymous No.]

In Spain, non commercial file sharing is legal (for now, after a series of court rulings).

This may apply to non commercial sharing of derivative works (like translations) as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972112
Darn, you can't spam votes in this poll. Last time I single-handedly propelled "Swells" to the forefront, much to the chagrin of those Comyu fags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972193
I think it's for the better, prevents the small number of moralfags from keeping the vote close.

[Anonymous No.]

Who cares?

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nnl1.com/
Vote in the poll, /jp/.

[Anonymous No.]

What is this, the third thread? Why the fuck would anyone care so much about this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972219
I think it's just boredom. Just look at all the other threads on the front page. They're pretty dull right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972218
lol @ the screen that pops up when you vote no

[Anonymous No.]

This is such an obvious ploy to get paid by the highest bidder for licensing.

[Anonymous No.]

I just don't fucking get it.
Who cares if someone is wanking off to an inanimate object of a 8-year-old girl? If they aren't really hurting anyone, it really shouldn't be a crime.
People can't really use the excuse "oh, that's offensive!" because it's none of their fucking business to start off with.
And all those parents who go "think of the children!" should actually do some research about this shit before making conclusions. If they were smart, they'd look into it and find out it's the people who DON'T like lolicon or of the like that actually commit the crimes regarding pedophilia. Stuff like lolicon act as a harmless outlet to an lust that can cause potential crimes. So it actually should be encouraged.
Instead, they walk around banning the solution. People don't develop this lust. They're born with it. Finding stuff like lolicon only makes them realize they have such a lust and gives them this 'release' of lust, which actually helps with their daily life. Normal pedophiles won't even look at real 8-year-old girls the same, and can be as innocent as any average persons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972321
Cool story bro.

What does this have to do with this discussion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972321
Free speech is worthless in the face of religious moral groups with an agenda who wish to rid humanity of evil impurities.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972355
it's the whole reason why they kept getting complaints and then shut down http://www.minori.ph altogether. It's because of all those dumoralfags and buttheart parent femanisoccermoms who won't stop bothering EROGE

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972381
there will always, ALWAYS be evil impurities in humanity. As long as each persons have free will, there will be people who make the decisions they don't want.
They're simply wishing for the impossible and oppressing people for their beliefs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972381
Not this again. Religions don't have anything to do with this matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972410
no, but the mindset is very similar.
your typical moralfag is a faithful christian who doesn't even allow himself to look at porn because they think they'll go to hell forever for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972321
I hear you, man. World's steadly going nuts.

[Arisa !tLnaMPPfC. No.]

>>4972425
Most of the typical Christians I know look at porn at least semi-regularly, dude. But the Philippines is like that in general anyway, 95% Christian and it's totally legal to sell porn along a major highway.

[Anonymous No.]

Why should I be afraid of this again?
I can circumvent all of the lockouts.
So, what are they just trying to stir up trouble?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972425
Nothing to do with Religions. It's the authoritarian mindset of the leadership of collectivist system. In practice they seem themselves as the parents that have to parent the public which they perceive as children. Obviously this goes only as far as long as it supports or doesn't hinder the status quo. Different times call for different values to be presented to the public and supported by regulations to guide the public into the renewed belief-systems.

[Some kind of faggot No.]

>>4972425
>>4972464
Protip: The bible doesn't actually advocate you NOT to fuck little kids. Mary mother of Jesus was fucking 12 when she gave birth to him.

God was a pedo, don't bother him about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972521
She was 14, actually. Which was a typical age for people in that culture to birth some babies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972483
>So, what are they just trying to stir up trouble?
No, the OP is just trying to stir up drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972521
If she could make a kid she was no longer a little girl.

[Some kind of faggot No.]

>>4972527
What version of the bible are you talking about? KJV version says she was 12. They probably upped the age in the NKJV version, or the 21st century KJV version.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972527
Yep. Because people back then died pretty soon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972387
So when are you going to stand up for them, instead of just whining on internet messageboards?

You know, you could have prevented this if you had gathered a group of reasonably-thinking people who all went against the feminists who bothered politicians to ban Rapelay. Lawmakers always give in to people who shout the loudest. If you are not willing to speak up, but only talk about this where no one can hear you, enjoy losing what you hold dear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972570
And yes, I know you shouldn't have to defend your rights, but that's the way the world works. If you won't stand up for what you believe in, nobody else will either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972570
Uh, no. That's a very bad idea. Good luck getting a job when you admit to the public you're a lolicon. Good luck dealing with your family/friends when they think you're a pedophile.

[Anonymous No.]

This is irrelevant.

NNL will probably release their translation. Some other group might finish up eden* in private. minori's xenophobic DRM is easily circumvented by most people. All minori did was stir up drama that makes them look bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972589
So you're not willing to defend it, I take it?

Then stop bawling.

[ChristopherML No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>4972597
I CAN'T defend it. My life would be over. I might as well suicide.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if I should buy that new ef ps2 port and get a deputy service to get me a copy of the original game and post a picture with a DIRTY GAIJIN holding it just to piss them off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972604
So you can't defend it on any merits other than "I enjoy it personally"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972646
How am I going to be able to get any value from it if I'm dead? I don't think you're grasping this part. I would not be able to continue my life if I admitted I masturbated to underage cartoon girls. It's all fine and good on the internet, but in real life it complicates things way too much.

[Anonymous No.]

>3.1 The software is locked intentionally to only work with Japanese OS

This seems to be quite common, even for things like electronic dictionary software and shit.
My question is does simply changing the UI language help (which you can do on Windows Vista/7 Ultimate or whatever) or does the actual OS have to be Japanese?

[Anonymous No.]

This shit makes me appreciate groups like nitro+ and 7th expansion who are more open.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972662
From my experience you need to use something like NTLEA to trick the program or just find a Japanese copy of windows XP and boot it on a virtual machine. (or dual boot)

But yea JAPRAN ORNY more or less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972662
I see. Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972651
You can defend something without admitting to enjoying it, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972688
Setting regional settings or patching some 2-3 bytes here and there in the exe will fix the problem.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972696
I suppose, but I just have a back up partition on another hard drive with a Japanese version of XP on it just in case of shit like this.

[Anonymous No.]

Company 1: Don't pirate our games because piracy is illegal.

Minori: Don't pirate our games!
Because you're violating all these rules! (see op)

My face when I don't give a shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972597
Sorry loli and rape games cant really be defended in the west without admitting you are a rapist or pedophile and if that gets out you're fucked for the rest of you're life.

[Anonymous No.]

hi all

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972807
Guess you're sod out of luck then, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972711
No, Minori doesn't want you to BUY their games, dumbass.

[athens !SysNpnp3nU No.]

stop complaining about 'racism' you niggers!

It's a cult of the victim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4973097
Hmm, athens not standing up for his white brothers for once?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4973202
>Taking athens seriously
Oh lol.

[Anonymous No.]

Solution: keep translating, don't give them a shit.
their games have no legal status overseas precisely because of the reasons mentioned by OP.
If you feel morally bad about this, buy their games in Japanese, but more importantly why would you feel bad for these fuckers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4973213
I've never really taken him seriously. There was one time when he was all "love girls man, they're beautiful creatures of purity" or whatever the hell kind of stage that was he was in.

[Anonymous No.]

They're fucking dicks. They should have issued their takedown demands when the project started, instead of waiting until people have wasted hours into the project...

[Anonymous No.]

minori: How dare those bastards translate our work without our consent! I fucking hate gaijin!

Anonymous: How dare those bastards block us from their website! I fucking hate Japanese people!

[Anonymous No.]

Me: I love drama, let me go make some popcorn

[Anonymous No.]

me: im gay

[Anonymous No.]

minori's temper tantrum is more interesting than their eroge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970742
>>4970761
>>4970774
>>4970786
>>4970809

That's why all those countries, along with Israel, are the lapping dogs of the U.S.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/04/26/minori-vandalises-eroge-translation-site/

[Anonymous No.]

>>4973899
Three days late as always.

[Anonymous No.]

DEFAND CURTUR

[Anonymous No.]

>>4972662
changing the UI language doesn't help as well as changing regions/locale/time and all that shit

you either have to install japanese version of windows somewhere or crack it

[Anonymous No.]

What unrealistic conditions to license? Didn't they just say it had to be rated by the ESRB? All that involves is paying their fee to get them to rate it. I don't think they'd refuse to rate an eroge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4973899
I'm amazed how much of an inaccurate rubbish this article is.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4974798
- rated by esrb of every country that wish to sell
- YOU go to their office IN JAPAN
- they don't want to talk to you.
- etc use your brain

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

413 ：名無したちの午後：2010/04/26(月) 07:48:15 ID:6/mpVKujO
本当に外人は寄生虫だな
割ってプレイだけしていればいいのに、
頼んでもいないのに、広めてやっているんだと正当化。
minoriに言われても止めないなら、オタでもファンでもない。
ただの無料の暇潰しにたかるゴキブリ集団。

TOTALLY NOT RACIST GUYS!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974934
Can't say I disagree with them on that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974934
外人 is gaijin right?

[Anonymous No.]

412 ：名無したちの午後：2010/04/26(月) 07:43:18 ID:AxHSIlApO
>>405
悪いが、日本のファンには、minoriに働きかけて悠久の翼再販を
emotional flutterに再録するって形であれ実現させた過去があるんだ
俺たちは正規ユーザーとして、ちゃんと言いたいことは公式に言ってるし、

必要ならばちゃんと行動も起こしてる
お前らみたいなゴミとは違うんだよクソ害人


TOTALLY GUYS
TOTALLY NOT RACIST

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974934

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974955
And 寄生虫 means parasite.

[Anonymous No.]

Problem, /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974934
Seriously them gaijins are parasites aren't they.
It'd been fine if a few of them out there are just playing it, but it's because they're distributing it all around without permission that they got a C&D.
If they don't stop even though they got told by Minori to do so, they can't even be considered Otakus or fans.
They're just a group of freeloading time wasting cockroaches.

Well it's kinda true because honestly, who the fuck actually buys the game?
One can justify that by translating it, broadening the audience and it will raise the chances of someone actually purchasing the game, but that's still some retarded logic. Over 95% are going to pirate it for sure.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4974995
Are you implying that pirated copies doesn't originate from Japanese people distributing them on Japanese P2P programs for Japanese people to download?

And are you implying gaijins pirate the games more than Japanese themselves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974995
If you want to look at it that way, none of those 95% would have bought the game if a patch didn't exist, so they don't lose anything and only gain from the 5% who do buy (and who wouldn't buy if a patch didn't exist).

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4975005
Not to mention that half of the peers on eroge torrents on hongfire are .jp?
And old torrents that have almost no peers left (less than 10) have all the peers from .jp, meaning they actively seed old games?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975005
Well yeah that's true. I've had my fair share of ISO downloading through Share. I'm 100% sure all them Hongfire torrents get their shit from Share too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974959
>必要ならばちゃんと行動も起こしてる
>お前らみたいなゴミとは違うんだよクソ害人

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

If anyone happen to have a working Japanese proxy please post in this

http://qiufen.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/hgame/1266163109/

Comment :
- すべての海賊版のエロゲの由来はShare/PerfectDark/Winny
- Share/PerfectDark/Winnyは全て日本発
- Share/PerfectDark/Winnyに海賊版を放流してる人は全て日本人
- Share/PerfectDark/Winnyのユーザーは大抵日本人
- 外人はShare/PerfectDark/Winnyを使って日本人から海賊版をダウンロードしてTorre
ntに流す
- Torrentのpeerは大半日本のip
- 古いTorrent(peerが少なくなっているtorrent)のpeerは大抵日本ip

割れ害人（笑

[Anonymous No.]

how are things like region locks even legal? don't they have free trade agreements and shit? it's like if aston martin made it so their cars wouldn't start if they detected you driving on the right side of the road.

[Anonymous No.]

anonymous, post the link to the 2ch thread.
thanks

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4975105
Two posts above you, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975069
Because technology advances very quickly, and lawmakers are ignorant old fucks who don't understand copyright law (e.g. look at the DMCA and compare it to the rest of US Copyright law - it's blatantly contradictory at points) and like to suck lobbyist cock. Everything kind of stems from this.

[Anonymous No.]

I can post on 2ch, drop your shit here.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4975176

Plz k thx.
>>4975055

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975188
already posted.

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4975176
>>4975194
don't link to us fag

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975198
it wasn't me

[Anonymous No.]

Swarm of butthurt japanese otaku incoming

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975220
Wait, japanese lurks /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975246
Link to this thread was posted on the 2ch thread.
But it looks like they're not posting?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975246
Everyone on /jp/ is japanese

[Anonymous No.]

Can anybody upload this picture somewhere and post on the 2ch thread?

Pretty hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

Actually use this picture and quote this
>>431
> P2Pの使用者は海外の方が圧倒的に多い
it's saying there are more foreign p2p users than japanese

[Anonymous No.]

You guys are crazy

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975250
I'm actually African American.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975267
well shit disregard all that
just copypasta this

-----
>>431
>P2Pの使用者は海外の方が圧倒的に多い
ttp://img104.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=65517_Capture2_122_499lo.JPG
-----

[Anonymous No.]

害人は
百害あって
一利なし

this is the fact faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975287
anyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975334
I got banned.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975334

ＵＲＬ：http://qiufen.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/hgame/1266163109/426
時刻：2010/04/26(月) 15:57:33
ＩＤ：rQmEoNo70
名前：名無したちの午後 さんの発言です。 [逆引き不可]
結果

1. SUCCESS: 200 OK [逆引き不可] +1pt.

Good bye 0000
Thank you. Wow taste good!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975348
God damnit son, now go find me a working japanese proxy

[Anonymous No.]

you know most 2ch posters at least pretend to be rabidly anti-warez, right?

like they find warez enough of a reason to drop dox on someone if they can find them

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975364
I'll paste it
My IP was banned, but I have 2ch viewer so i can

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975287
P2P in general, not jap porno game P2P

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975287
place the image on one of the many many uploaders, one for example
http://uproda.2ch-library.com/

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975369
hypocrites?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975287
http://qiufen.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/hgame/1266163109/436

in my 2ch browser that link does not resolve to an inline image, im using v2c. what about other people?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975381
http://uproda.2ch-library.com/lib239467.jpg.shtml

done

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975403
whoops. i meant http://iup.2ch-library.com/ , but doesn't matter anyway now. the post is there, i just hope they bother to click the link and see.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975415
might as well repost

http://iup.2ch-library.com/i/i0083023-1272268744.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

Stop the presses!

Japan having a case of xenophobia?
This is unheard of.

[Anonymous No.]

Epic raid bros.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4970669
If I buy an eroge then chances are I'm well aware of what I'm buying and cultural differences won't faze me at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975427
You can speak japanese here, dude. If this 「害人はメーカーからすれば糞虫以下の存在なんだろうな。 」 can't be called xenophobic, than one of us is stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975438
>than one of us is stupid.

Guess who.

[Anonymous No.]

if you guys pay attention to poster IDs you may notice that you're being trolled by a total of approximately 2 posters, one of whom is on a cell phone

[Anonymous No.]

who cares, so you lose some slideshow porn games.
life goes on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975438
English apparently isn't one of your strong points.
Either that or sarcasm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975451
googletranslate.

[Anonymous No.]

追加：6/mpVKujO様、ｱｵﾘｵﾂｯｽ

[Anonymous No.]

ここIDでねえからやりやすいなｗ

[Anonymous No.]

Hey the japs aren't paying attention to >>4975287

let's make them do

[Anonymous No.]

shit japs came with shitty monkey langs
why we didn't kill all japs during WW2

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975481
the virus wasn't ready in time

[Anonymous No.]

ID:KGWX471T0
ID:6/mpVKujO
態度でっけえｗｗ

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975481
>>4975484
more hate.

*gets popcorn*

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975490
煽ってるんだよ　言わせんな恥ずかしいｗ

[Anonymous No.]

IT SURE IS ASSPAINS AROUND HERE

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975490
ニュー即民っぽいｗｗｗ

[Anonymous No.]

犯罪者の巣窟はここですか？

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4975494
ところで、こいつを見てくれ。
どう思う？

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4975500
>>4975503

現実は痛いだろ？

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975500
割れ日本人のことか？

[Anonymous No.]

アメリカ人のヲタな知り合いがいるんだけど
エロゲとか輸入してんのって聞いたら全部落としてるとか抜かしやがった　
俺らには落とす権利があるとか・・・　マジで死ねよ

[A certain Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4975509
>>4975503

つ「現実」

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975509
bawwww

[Anonymous No.]

なんて奇妙な祭り

[Anonymous No.]

限定的で不確かなソース引っ張って自らの犯罪を棚に上げてる糞害人の巣窟
はここですか？

[AnoNymous of Russia No.]

>>4975519
Yeah, a festival of butthurt.

[Anonymous No.]

Omae no chin chin ga chiisai no de,okotteru ka na. HIROSHIMA to NAGASAKI ga oboeteru?? Oretachi ha sore ga mou ikkai dekiru yo, Zurui baka chinko. Nihonjin no otoko no chin chin ga chiisai kara, nihonjin no josei wa amerikajin ga daisuki. Omae wa kanojo ga inai darou. Yappari ne, baka yarou.

[Anonymous No.]

use english japs loser

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975520
Oh shit here we go
"Bawww we're not really doing it, you just cherripick it!"
well shit how about you go to hongfire and check all of the torrents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975527
close, but work on your particles... you must have learned Japanese through watching anime??

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975500
>>4975509
>>4975520
怒っている？

[Anonymous No.]

It was funny when minori didnt even know how a wiki worked.

[AnoNymous of Russia No.]

>>4975520
My friend, whole world != some ronery amerikkan otaku/neet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975520
>>4975509
>>4975500
Art thou mad?

[Anonymous No.]

nihon jin ha kiiroi saru desu. america jin ha jap wo korositemo hannzai sha deha arimasen. jap ha america ni otonasiku sitagattekudasai. omaera ha kokujin ika desu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975520

[Anonymous No.]

HEY
Can anybody copypasta this to the 2ch thread again?

---------
http://iup.2ch-library.com/i/i0083023-1272268744.jpg
http://iup.2ch-library.com/i/i0083033-1272270849.jpg

割れ害人（ｷﾘｯ
--------

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.ultrasonline.com/ref/garnek92/


sadasqweqw

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975558
I think nobody gonna reply

[Anonymous No.]

Now imagine how many US flags would be on that picture if someone cleaned up a machine translation for a $1500 "commission" and released a patch for those awful games!

Oh who am I kidding... he'd probably release a binary.

[Anonymous No.]

http://iup.2ch-library.com/i/i0083037-1272271141.jpg

added one more

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975536
画像を忘れた

[Anonymous No.]

HEY
Can anybody copypasta this to the 2ch thread again?

---------
http://iup.2ch-library.com/i/i0083023-1272268744.jpg
http://iup.2ch-library.com/i/i0083033-1272270849.jpg
http://iup.2ch-library.com/i/i0083037-1272271141.jpg

割れ害人（ｷﾘｯ
--------


thats it im not going to bother making more of this shit as we all know it's like this for every fucking torrents ever

[Anonymous No.]

If only the death note worked with IP addresses...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975562

Just do it please.

>>4975569

[Anonymous No.]

Oh japan...
When will you get over your xenophobia?
It's not healthy.

It's like an entire country of passive-aggressive nazis.

[Anonymous No.]

well WW2 again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975535
Actually his particle use is correct. I don't see much wrong with his sentences considering the tone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975569
>>4975569
>>4975569
>>4975569

anyone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975585
NYPA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975527
KOTAKU READER SPOTTED

REMOVE YOURSELF FROM THSI BOARD IMMEDIATELY

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975585
DIY

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975592
I can't. That's why.

[Anonymous No.]

445 名前： 名無したちの午後 [sage] 投稿日： 2010/04/26(月) 17:55:23 ID:OZehSLcO0
>>436
そんな画像だけで日本人の方が多いっていいたいのか？馬鹿？ｗ
日本以外の国を合わせれば、どれだけの人数がP2P使ってるかぐらい
小学生でもわかるよな？ｗ

[Anonymous No.]

>>1-1000　＝　ｎｂｋｚ

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975601
>bawwww I don't accept this! i was showed the evidence but i still won't accept there are more japanese pirates for eroge than foreigners!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975604
hahaha

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975601
so basically what >>4975377 tried to say

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975569
>>4975569
>>4975569
>>4975569
>>4975569

[Anonymous No.]

just skimmed through this thread

I don't think arguing with people that have nothing to minori is going to solve anything guys. You can still pirate their games and use AGTH for translation. Some of you don't even like their games so why so "butthurt"?

I guess it's ok to vent your anger to random people on 2ch huh?

[Anonymous No.]

/jp/ sure is making a fool of themselves.
You should know better /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975569
pretty please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975646
Not your personally EDrama army. hurrr

[Anonymous No.]

分かったのは日本のヲタって最低の屑くらいかな。

[Anonymous No.]

You guys shouldn't be bitching about nip racism but about retarded tlwiki and translators.
"Lol, we torrent game, slice it open, make translation patches with included no-cd's, and give it to users who just torrent the games again. But noo, we're no pirates, just ask us and we'll stop, plz don't distribute the games when they'll get licensed xD. I wish JAST would buy us too."

I want to pirate and play the fucking games, Christ, who the fuck cares about minori?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4974959
TRANSLATE

[Anonymous No.]

They want to isolate themselves because of stupid reporters like that CNN kkorean that keeps using eroges as an excuse to talk crap about Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

How is anything of this new? Japanese games said "for sale and use in Japan only" for decades now and on consoles, there's been region lock since the 8-bit era.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975668
Christ, who the fuck cares about you?

[Anonymous No.]

It came from 2ch...
Could you make friends?

2ちゃんからきました
お友達になって頂けますか？

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975703
いいんじゃねか？

Why not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975703
I wish to be the little girl.
女の子になりたい。

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975703
Could you become my friends?のほうがいいんじゃねーの？とアメリカ在住の俺が言ってみる

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975702
Who the fuck cares about you? Because you clearly don't care about playing that game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975703
つーか、ここよりＩＲＣとｔｌｗiｋｉに来るは妥当かと思う。
あそこには友好的な奴おおいからね。

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975710
No one cares about you or whatever you want. GTFO, shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975713
GTFO jap

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975718
Fuck off, gaijin scum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975718
>>4975719
Kkoreans.

[Anonymous No.]

Soon most of the eroge companies will do the same. They are all tired of western moralfags talking crap about them.

[Anonymous No.]

What?
May I make a response in Japanese today?

[Anonymous No.]

Koreans are better than japs
soon Koreans will kill all japs

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975766
Back to Korea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4975777
shut up japs monkey
Dokdo is Korean island!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.]

2 nukes was not enough

[Anonymous No.]

Man, all of the people involved in this discussion are so angry.

Here, have a flower.

[Anonymous No.]

Question: Should we release ef? horizontal graph horizontal graph
Answer times selected answer distribution (%)
1. Yes 874 85%
2. No 154 15%
Summary: 1028 votes

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

BREAKING NEWS


GUYS
MINORI JUST UPDATED THEIR PAGE FOR US FILTHY GAIJINS
GO CHECK IT OUT
www.minori.ph

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976776
Haha posted in Japanese.
Their smugness really is showing.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck Sankaku Complex

[Anonymous No.]

Hahaha. Basically they are asking you to go to japan to play their games.
>You can buy the games in akihabara.
>Japan is a nice place and hot.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4976799
We are protecting you.... FROM YOURSELF!

oh god what i.. what..

[Anonymous No.]

If you want to translate their stuff you need to go visit their headquarters in Japan and ask for their permission, personally, and in Japanese.

Lol, why not just say they don't want their games to get translated.

This company is kinda pissing me off.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4976835
You also have to pay ESRB to rate the game too...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976799
Fuck yes, this rocks so hard.
Go minori.
I haven't even played any of their games but I think I'm gonna have to now since they rock so hard.

Stick it to the man, bros, stick it to the man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976799
I'm sure a deputy service can fish me out a copy if I really want one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976799
lol. does that mean the battle has won?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4976858 Stick it to the man, bros, stick it to the man.
The "man" is minori.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4977083
0/10

[Anonymous No.]

LULZ

It's eden, in case you're wondering.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977153
Cool shitpost bro.
Keep it up.

[Your favorite Anonymous that lives in Bangkok No.]

>>4977157
hahaha
sure is dirty pirate gaijins around here

[Anonymous No.]

Think NNL folded.

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.nnl1.com/ef/

[Anonymous No.]

A quick search through NNL's updated site

Fansub page is down (where all downloads were)
EF project page redirects to home page
EF download page and status page are off line, as is the staff page
EF April Fools image is still online, as are a couple others like the Shuffle image (no direct links, just by URL)
Leech still has the message >Hey, why are you here? Don't be a snoop!
NNL's about page is offline
Stuff in /etc is down

[Anonymous No.]

I kind of agree with them, after reading the little bit in English on their site. I haven't read the Japanese stuff, I can't read it.

If I made something and some people from some other country would be telling me to stop making it because it "offended" them, and even going as far as telling politicians of my country to take action, I would be pretty pissed too.

Really, if anyone is at fault in this whole situation it's the feminists in the UK and USA who started harassing them, when they really should shut the fuck up since they have no right to tell Japan what to do at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977323 If I made something and some people from some other country would be telling me to stop making it because it "offended" them, and even going as far as telling politicians of my country to take action, I would be pretty pissed too.
Yeah, except instead of being butthurt, I'd tell them to fuck off and mind their own business.

[Anonymous No.]

So it's over? No ef either?

[Anonymous No.]

Researching some copyright laws for countries actually connected to the internet, Spain likely has the best and it may be legal to host a translation patch there. With most nations, there is no distinction based on the intent to profit while infringing. Spanish law however, explicitly requires an intent to profit for their to be infringement. This is backed up by case law, numerous rulings have verified that without the intent to profit, there may not be infringement. Since fan translations (excluding Dark Translations) do not look to profit, this would likely mean that sharing a fan translation in Spain would not violate any Spanish law.

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at the NNL source, I think they fucked up updating their website, the html code for the poll is still included, but there is no poll on the website.

<form action="http://www.addpoll.com/vote" method="post" target="_top" style="margin:0;" name="addPollVote">
<div style="font-size: 11px; font-family: verdana, arial, tahoma; width: 100%;">
<input type="hidden" name="questionId" value="49388" />
</div>
</form>
<!-- /addpoll.com full custom poll -->

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977309

VERSE 1
When the waves roll on over the waters
And the ocean cries
We look to our sons and daughters to explain our lives
As if a child could tell us why

PRE-CHORUS
That as sure as the sunrise
As sure as the sea
As sure as the wind in the trees

CHORUS
We rise again in the faces of our children
We rise again in the voices of our song
We rise again in the waves out on the ocean
And then, we rise again

VERSE 2
When the light goes dark with the forces of creation
Across a stormy sky
We look to reincarnation to explain our lives
As if a child could tell us why

PRE-CHORUS
CHORUS (x2)

And then, we rise again!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977339
Yeah, except they don't get harassed with a simple "omg perverts!! how dare you do this to children just because they're not real??" email, they are actually getting trouble from local politicians, because your feminist shitstains in your country think they rule the world and they can enforce their feminist viewpoints on everyone.

minori is pissed, and they're saying: you say you're not all like them? Then defend our work. If you can't even do that, why would we even have to care about you?

And they're right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977845 they are actually getting trouble from local politicians
My point still stands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977845
>minori is pissed,
Minori always consisted of faggots ready to sue you over posting yourself playing a cover of a song from any of their games.

>Then defend our work.
You must be out of your fucking mind.

>And they're right.
Kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4977566
AND THEN, EF FAILS AGAIN!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4978120
>>Then defend our work.
>You must be out of your fucking mind.
If such a concept is so incredulous to you, then you are obviously not a fan.