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4958198 No.4958198 [Reply] [Original]

So....will the Umineko VN be getting a redrawn and fully voiced remake like Higurashi did?

>> No.4958203

I hope not.

>> No.4958206

I dunno about being redrawn, but there is an unofficial voice patch in the making.

>> No.4958207

>>4958203
dur hur

>> No.4958208

Why? That would ruin everything.

>> No.4958212

It's already beautiful the way it is.

>> No.4958216

Only if they can do the trollfaces right

>> No.4958240

I hope so.

I'm so sick of seeing fat blobs everywhere

>> No.4958247
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>>4958208
How so, my good man?

Please back up your faggotry with an explanation, old sport.

>> No.4958248

>>4958212

>> No.4958256

No way, it's not popular like Higurashi.

The anime was a huge flop, while Higurashi anime is extremely popular.

>> No.4958275

>>4958206
>there is an unofficial voice patch in the making.

What, seriously? This is the first time I've heard of it. Do you've a source on that, my dear anon? I'll be unbelievably happy if it's by the same lot of people who did the doujin drama CDs for Alliance and End.

>> No.4958290

>>4958247
Because it's completely fine the way it is. If it is redrawn, then it will lose the art that is unique to Umineko. No matter how hard they try, I don't believe they'll even be able to find good voice actors. Just look at the anime, it's generic shit, even disregarding how much of the story they left out.

>> No.4958295

>>4958256

Because it was actually good.

>> No.4958302

A redrawn version might convince my sister to read it. That would be pretty nice, in a way.

>> No.4958303

>>4958275

Nope it's in English. And it's a fan project.
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2994700&postcount=932

>> No.4958313

>>4958295
Brain parasites.

>> No.4958315

>>4958290
But the voice acting for the anime was great...

>> No.4958319

>>4958290
What's wrong with a remake though? It's just the same game in a different art style.

I love Umineko's art too. But I would also be more than welcome to a remake because that would just be fucking awesome.

>> No.4958320

>>4958290
>If it is redrawn, then it will lose the art that is unique to Umineko.

I agree with this. Let's look at the new Higurashi sprites in comparison to the original, taking the most obvious example. While the original sprites are undeniably horrendously drawn/coloured, they have character. The new sprites look much better, sure, but they're more... plain. Lacks life, too mainstream. If/when Umineko gets ported, we can bet everyone will look horribly plain, and it'll be done by the same people who redid Higurashi (Alchemist, I believe?). All of Beato's marvelous expressions? Gone. Erika and Evatrice's 'HURRRRR' faces? Gone. Battler's many, many, many crying faces? Reduced to one.

>> No.4958336

>>4958303
>in English
>fan project.
Why do people try and do things like this?

>> No.4958345

>>4958303
I'm actually downloading it. I'm scared...

>> No.4958350

>>4958303
>animesuki
Should I even bother?

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>>4958320
Even though I like the PS2 sprites for higurashi, I agree with you on this one.

R07's faces make up for hamhands and more.

>> No.4958356

>>4958350
It's been spread to a bunch of Umineko communities. That's just the one I found it at.

>> No.4958359

>>4958320
I can't even imagine any of the Umineko characters remade. Actually, I can imagine Jessica being remade. But even then, it's a recoloring of Mion.

>> No.4958365

>>4958320
Not to mention Virgilia's trollface in EP3. You can't remake that and keep the same effect.

>> No.4958370
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>>4958359
Except not as good.

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4958383

>Erika and Evatrice's 'HURRRRR' faces? Gone.

;_;

>> No.4958384

>>4958383
I wish I had a hurrr face.

>> No.4958388

Sure is R07 fanboys in here.

>> No.4958389

>>4958370
Hey, I like Jessica. And I actually think she's a good guy.

...Am I alone in this dark, dark world?

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>>4958365
Well...


No, okay, you're right.

>> No.4958399

I prefer it when she says oh beri good with katakana.

>> No.4958401

>>4958389
Pretty much. I like her too, but I think she's a very not-good guy.

>> No.4958406

To be fair, the anime just made their own facial expressions. I doubt they even referenced the original facial expressions.

>> No.4958407

>>4958389
We think she's good in the fact that she's probably still a virgin because she's been raised in isolation on a remote island.

>> No.4958411

>>4958406
They did a pretty good job with some of EVA's expressions.

>> No.4958413
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This is somewhat similar to DAT FACE she makes, except with not as many lines. And not as deranged.

>> No.4958414
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>>4958389
>>4958401
>>4958407
I did say "not as good". I wasn't saying she was bad.

Just... a little boring I guess.

>>4958411
Even this face which I'm still wondering if it's physically possible to do.

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>>4958407
>probably
Jessica is definitely a virgin (unless rape)

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>> No.4958419

>>4958417
>>4958414
That one, thanks.

>> No.4958426

>>4958407
Well, her boyfriend lacks the parts needed to steal her maidenhead.

Thus, not a slut.

>> No.4958428

>>4958416
I wouldn't put it past Kinzo

>> No.4958441

>>4958417
>>4958413
...is it possible to have a fetish for trollfaces? Because I think I may have one.

>> No.4958446
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4958446

I had a dream recently where Umineko was remade. It was credible, super serious, was like fifty episodes long, and sold incredibly well in moonland. Even more than K-ON! and Bakemonogatari. I can't remember the studio, but I think it was Production I.G. And bizarrely enough, I think Satoshi Kon had some pull in it, too. It was beautifully bizarre.

Image very much related, my face when I woke up.

>> No.4958453

>>4958446
Because it wasn't real?

>> No.4958455

>>4958441
You are now wondering what a R07 drawn 'o-face' looks like

>> No.4958458
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>>4958441
Oh, yeah. Totally.

>> No.4958463

>>4958446
>and sold incredibly well in moonland. Even more than K-ON! and Bakemonogatari.

And that's the point where you should have realized within your dream that it actually was a dream.

>> No.4958470
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>>4958463
Fuckin' japan.

>> No.4958478

>>4958389
I always thought Jessica was innocent, until I read the original Jessitrice theory on tvtropes. It struck a chord with me, and I liked it. Of course, everybody else thought Jessitrice was a pile of wank, and I got understandably saged to hell whenever I brought it up. Then Dawn came out, and everyones' talking about all this moon-chan nonsense. I don't know, with everyone talking about how horrible she is, it's kind of hard to see her as being totally innocent.

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>>4958446
You dreamed about the Studio DEEN anime?

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4958492

I still think that Legend would have been awesome if it were adapted as a standalone series, with perhaps eleven or twelve episodes. Too long, you think? Not at all, think of it this way; on average, every manga volume equals about three or four anime episodes. The manga adaptation had four volumes, and was absolutely perfect, even Ryu adored it. Imagine if we got a panel by panel adaptation of the manga?

>> No.4958532

>>4958482
What DEEN anime?

>> No.4958548

>>4958492
Wouldn't it just be the next Ctrl+Alt+Del full of B^U faces?

>> No.4959596

>>4958336
>>4958303

So...this was actually pretty damn good. I'll be looking for more.

I mean, Zepar and Furfur needed work...

But Trollkastel and Erika were REALLY FUCKING GOOD.

>> No.4959601

They better not.

>> No.4959759

>>4959596

It wasn't as bad as I thought it'd be.

>> No.4959884

>>4959596
I kind of always thought Erika would sound like she was speaking through her nose or something. You know that nasally kind of voice? I have no idea why.

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>>4958320
>>4958354
You fag sure just can't admit that Ryukishi's drawing as sucks as ZUN

>> No.4962896

>>4958303

Surprisingly, not completely terrible. The only major cringe worthy part was with the twins. I won't be using it, since I prefer no voices.

>> No.4963032

>>4962755
Oh no, his drawing skills suck. But his faces have grown on me.

>> No.4963120
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>>4962755
Nobody cares about drawing skills. That's not a fucking art gallery.

>> No.4963134

I started to think Japanese doujinshi community doesn't really care about good art.
Higurashi, Umineko, Touhou...Heck, Takeuchi's Tsukihime art was also far from being perfect. The overall style of the project is more important.

>> No.4963406

>>4962755
I think the art sucks too, but I started reading the VN when I saw Beato's troll face.

>> No.4963414

>>4963120
When you have to LOOK at something, it not being a tumor always helps.

>> No.4963431

>>4963414

My mom is a tumor FUCK YOU

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>>4963431

IS NOT A TUMOR!

>> No.4963829

>>4963815
TOOMORR

>> No.4963859

It took a long time for the Higurashi sprites to grow on me, but I enjoy the Umineko sprites. They may not me badass awesome art, but they have character, and at least their hands are not massivly disproportional to the size of their body like in the Higurashi sprites.

>> No.4963926

>>4963859
I actually liked the big hands
I found them cute as weird as that sounds...

>> No.4963936

>>4958365

That's partially due to the fact that up until her troll face. We had no way of confirming she had any eyes, without red lol.

>> No.4963951

>>4963859

Agreed, Ryuukishi's Umineko art isn't THAT bad. It's really expressive.

>> No.4963976

I really hope not. It doesn't need one. Higurashi probably did need it considering the art was atrocious in that, but Umineko's art is significantly improved.

Voice patch...I'm curious as to how they would voice Erika.

>> No.4963988

>>4963951
Higurashi's were expressive too.
It is still fucking badly drawn, with heads tilting a bit with the bodies having 1-2 poses.
Add ridiculous clothes from time to time, and certain faces that look like they were stretched from the SM64 opening, and you are set.
Yes, you got used to it.
Yes, it's better than Higurashi.
Still fucking horrible.

>> No.4964008

>>4963976

Probably just like that english patch did: a more energy-filled, higher-pitched version of Anime Bernkastel.

>> No.4964022

>>4958256
>using anime to evaluate popularity of Umineko VN

VN readers in Japan deliberately say they will never ever buy the anime. That's how much they hated it.

>> No.4964023

>>4964008

I never thought that Erika had energy...she just came off as more outwardly smug.

>> No.4964030

>>4964023

She definitely gets a little hyper and emotional. Bern's got two settings: trollin' and TROLLIN'.

>> No.4964034

>>4964022
I do not think most VN readers appreciate ANY adaptation ever, and the crowd who just watched the anime is different.

>> No.4964041

>>4964034
Umineko's adaptation was especially bad, though, and everyone seems to agree on that. Everyone really appreciates the unofficial stuff like the voice dramas and animations, though.

>> No.4964042

>>4964034

I watched the anime and was reluctant to forgive it if only a decision is reached on whether or not to continue with Chiru and leave Kon Chiaki in the dust...or at least get R07 on board like they did with Kai.

That and I want the Extra TIPS as OVA's.

>> No.4964051

>>4964041
If you ignore the VN, good art and voices carry it a good way, and being streamlined has a good effect, even if it ruins the VN's 'purpose'.
The base material and structure of episodes is just not that great for anime in the first place(let's not touch actual VN itself)

>> No.4964068

>>4964051
The art wasn't that good, and the streamlining made it make no sense. The voices were good and that was it.

>> No.4964082

>>4964068
Comparison wise.
Also, the 'sense' Umineko makes now is debatable either.
And I think one of the complaints of the readers is how the anime spoonfeeded info that was supposed to be 'ambiguous', rather than it not making sense.

>> No.4964101

>>4964082
No, you're trying too hard. There was too much information missing from the anime. It's simple as that.

I don't see how you can possibly defend it when they didn't even mention Battler's family situation for all 26 episodes. Ask an anime watcher and they probably wouldn't even remember that he supposedly hadn't come to the island for 6 years.

>> No.4964120

>>4964101
I am sure him not coming since forever is mentioned in the first episode or two.
Not hammered in every new chapter, maybe.
Also, info was missing. Shit was streamlined.
The point is if it actually missed something important whose omission will cause problems when they show the rest.

>> No.4964131

>>4964120
He said "It's been 6 years" in passing. That's it. No explanation. I don't see how you can call that sufficient.

>The point is if it actually missed something important whose omission will cause problems when they show the rest.
>when they show the rest.

AHAHAHA OH WOW.

You still think there will be a second season. That's cute.

>> No.4964142
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The Umineko VN art grew on me really quickly. What R07 lacks in artistic skill, he makes up for in spades with facial expressions

Seriously, I can no longer imagine Umineko without the Beato troll face

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>>4964142
I like this one.

>> No.4964184

>>4964131
You say that as if it will be the first undeserving thing that gets it's continuation.
>>4964142
Seiing it drawn better would not deter me, let me tell you.

>> No.4964221

>>4964184
>You say that as if it will be the first undeserving thing that gets it's continuation.

Bro, it's not about "deserving" anything. DEEN will never animate a second season of something with such shitty sales.

And let me tell you, those sales were incredibly shitty.

>> No.4964232

>>4964184

Y'know what? If it isn't broke, don't fix it. I like R07's facial expressions. They MADE a lot of the scenes in the VN for me. The only thing I can really say I think R07 needs to work on is the hamhands and everything will be golden. I honestly like how all the characters look at this point

>> No.4964237

>>4964221
DVD sales are not the sole determinant for such things.
Since we are on the subject though, do you have a database that lists this shit?
I only find specific series reports scattered.

>> No.4964249

>>4964232
You are way, way too fucking tolerant then.
I still hope he gets massively better or gets another guy to illustrate his silly dresses.

>> No.4964258

>>4964232
Featherine crossed the line.

>> No.4964271

>>4964232
To be fair, he has improved a bit in the hand departament.

A BIT

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>>4964258
EP6 was a bit of a funny episode.

>> No.4964283

>>4964277
Frightening how those two are actually somewhat important.

>> No.4964284

>>4964277
HARMONY

>> No.4964295
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Also note the hands.

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4964359

It's funny, but I never realized until just now that in the Kannon boiler room scene in EP1, DEEN used ahaha.wav when he was impaled.

>> No.4964388

My only qualm with the anime was the disproportionate amount spend on Ange/Maria's shit. I'm not saying this stuff wasn't important, but holy fuck they skipped so much other crap to make room for it. Why did Ange/Maria's scenes need so much screen time?

Also, I raged so hard when they didn't show Krauss beat the goat-kun.

>> No.4964493

The anime was kind of a big disappointment.

I just got into the VN after watching the whole anime, and now I'm finally realizing why so many people hate it.

What I've been doing is every time I get to the point where i know one episode has been covered, I watch the corresponding episode from the anime.

And so far the only scene that has been remotely done well was the Kannon boiler room scene. The anime was butchered to death, and now I'm down at imagining what the anime could have been.

Well, at least the manga is pretty awesome.

>> No.4964542

Umineko threads always make me feel like playing some BGMs. Why is the soundtrack so awesome?

>> No.4964633

>>4964388
Maybe they are important. You never know.
>Krauss beat the goat-kun
FUCK THAT SHIT. I'm glad they cut it out completely.

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>>4964232
>Y'know what? If it isn't broke, don't fix it

>Implying it's not broken.
>Implying that only Ryukishi07 can draw those expression.

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>>4968033
Fuck you nigga

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>>4968045

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>>4968058

>> No.4968127
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4968127

My face watching umineko anime.

>> No.4968136
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4968136

Kasumin~

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>>4968127
My face when I watched EP4's teaparty from the anime

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>> No.4968162

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juEkoLXXoxo

I like this a lot actually.

>> No.4968170

>>4968162
yeah, that one is decent.

>> No.4968191
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4968191

I want subs for «SPECIAL TALK in ROKKENJIMA»

>> No.4968257

>>4968191
how long is that?

>> No.4968678

I'd have to see examples before I'd render judgement on a voice/sprite patch. A few of the character sprites in Umineko are kinda poor, sure. George looks a kinda crappy sometimes (though I appreciate that they made him a little chunky in comparison to the anime prettyboy), Rudolph's posed kinda awkwardly, Maria looks....enh. But by comparison, pretty much every witch in the series is really well drawn, and Beatrice is tremendously expressive. Jessica is surprisingly cute, Gohda captured his character really well compared to the anime, Battler started kind of wooden but has been grown with time, so on and so forth. If they can keep the general feel of the art though, I wouldn't say no to them increasing the detail some and maybe adding in more alternate poses and such.

As for voices...a good voice patch would be nice but I don't forsee any fan project getting adequate talent. Which leaves the official voices. I'll admit they had their merits. Battler/Ronove being reverse Itsuki/Kyon was great, Inoue Kikuko as Virgilia was an obvious choice, Beatrice had the cackle down perfect, and everyone else at least seemed to match all right. But they totally lost me because it seemed like they had cast Beatrice based only on the first two arcs. She couldn't go into dere mode at all, her voice was too low and 'villainous'.

>> No.4968685

>>4968678
About Beatrice, she does her scenes fine in the drama CDs, that was DEEN's fault, Ohara was a pretty good range and she can pull all Beato's faces.

>> No.4968721

hur

>> No.4968818

>>4968678
Well, on the other hand George IS crappy, so...

>> No.4969440

>>4968257
2 specials x 20 min

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>> No.4969506

I bring this up often enough when we're discussing the voice acting, but I honestly think that most of the seiyuu in that doujin drama CD completely surpassed their anime counter-parts. I much preferred Bern and Lambda's seiyuu, for example. Of course, Ono Daisuke is a wonderfully capable seiyuu, but if he was just better directed, he could have been an amazing Battler. I understand that it's completely DEEN's fault as to why he sounded so RAGE all the time. In comparison to that, listen to the seiyuu on End's drama CD, where Battler has his breakdown. Shit, the emotion is there in spades.

>> No.4969515

>>4969506
Again, check the drama CDs, Ono in the first twilight of the ep1 was superb, well, they all were fantastic.

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The Umineko remake will add an important bit of information to the tips screen regarding Maria's heritage.

>> No.4969544

>>4964042

There's the drama CD for the V-day and White day tips, but it's been a month and a half and there isn't a rip of the CD anywhere

at this rate the drama CD is the best any one is getting

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