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New Ar Tonelico thread, the previous thread (>>4764246) hit the bump limit.

We lasted an entire thread without a translated Halloween.jpg, I'm shocked yet impressed.

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Ar Tonelico For Lazy People Pack™:

Contains torrents for the games along with the emulator installer + plugins + bios.

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

>> No.4846549

Right, continuing from previous thread.

>Where can we get Ar Tonelico figures from? All the ones from eBay I can find are from Hong Kong, and all the sites I can find with them have them listed as not coming back in stock.

Someone implied they had the answer.

>> No.4846553

>>4817598 was the previous thread, my mistake.

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Also, pedos and sluts.

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Have we found a source, or a high-res scan of this yet? Been posted in like 5 previous threads and nobody has mentioned either yet.

>> No.4846573

Did anyone ever have an idea why Shurelia didn't think it was strange that Aurica had a Hymn Code? Was it just an oversight on Shurelia's or the writer's part?

>> No.4846577


I seen one a few threads back but after taking a brief look through my browser history they all appear to be sold out again. You're still looking at least £60-70 to get your hands on one brand new though unfortunately. The guy in the previous thread should really haggle the price on that figure though, Ar Tonelico is such a niche series, especially in the UK and with a price tag that high I'm sure they'll never sell it.

>> No.4846588


I think it was just an oversight. You can clearly see her Hymn code is linked to Mir but nothing is mentioned about it.


None as of yet, as far as I know.

>> No.4846594

It could be any number of reasons. Writer oversight is unlikely given the fact it was deliberately put there as a major storyline element. It's possible she just over-looked it, it was an extremely stressful situation, she had more important things to worry about.

Shurelia is a bit of an airhead, so if it wasn't explicitly stated, we'll never know if it was part of some master plan, or if she was just being airheaded.

>> No.4846642

Not really a major storyline element though, was it? It's like they put it there then completely forgot about it.

>> No.4846649


I'd say it was pretty major, seeing as it is the first indicator to the player of the entire chain of events in Aurica's path.

>> No.4846660

Not in the English version.

Was it even mentioned that 3rd gen Reyvateils don't have hymn codes at any point before Purger, even in the Japanese version?

>> No.4846667


No, but it is more recognizably Mir's in the Japanese version. If they had localized the hymn codes to MIR/MISHA it would have been a better clue for English speakers.

>> No.4846677

I know it's Mir's in the Japanese version, I'm just wondering if even they'd pick up on the major point that a 3rd gen has a hymn code at that point in the game or not. Couldn't remember if that was said in-game or in one of the side books.

>> No.4846696


Nope, I'm the faggot posting AT1 screenshots and it hasn't been mentioned once. I didn't even know until I read your comment.

>> No.4846705


I dunno, it's possible.

My memory is pretty fuzzy about that series of events, though. Who was it that said something like "What, you don't even know your own hymn codes? Go dive and find out."? Was that Lyner's dad, Shurelia, or maybe Ayatane? I don't remember at all.

>> No.4846711


Lyner's father says that to Lyner when he doesn't know what their Hymn codes are or how to go about getting them. He then tells him to go to the dive shop and talk to the fag there to get them. Nothing is mentioned about 3rd gen reyvateils not having a hymn code.

>> No.4846725


You'd think that he would be aware of the fact as well, though. Maybe Platina has mostly β-reyvateils or something. Was Shurelia in the room at the time, or did they only run into her when they went to sing?

>> No.4846738


Shurelia wasn't there, she was at the altar with Ayatane trying to delay the virus until Lyner arrived with the Purger. And Misha states that she's the only β reyvateil remaining, or at least that's what Shurelia said to her. I dunno if that's bullshit or not, I'm just going by what I've read up to where I am so far.

>> No.4846749


Stranger and stranger. Oh well, I guess we won't ever know unless someone asks about it in the Toukousphere.

>> No.4846766

It's retconning time!

>> No.4846779

I seem to remember something being mentioned somewhere about 3rd generation Reyvateils occasionally getting registered with the tower upon birth as the result of some sort of glitch, but they only get the hymn code of a Reyvateil that's already registered, and it can cause problems.

Am I talking shit, or has this been mentioned somewhere? Could that be an explanation?

>> No.4846791

Found it, in the wiki:

>Third Generations do not have a Hymn Code, but they are still connected to the Tower and are able to sing Song magic, and can be as useful as any other Reyvateil. There are some exceptions, such as Reyvateils that have the Hymn Code of another Reyvateil because of a system error on the Song Servers, or Reyvateils that are using the β ER technique (the D Cellophane Grathnode Crystal).

Shurelia could have just thought it was this rare occurrence, and nothing was wrong.

Although it's far, FAR more likely the writers messed up.

>> No.4846821

Which one is XP and which one is Vista?

>> No.4846850

Speaking of this, OP isn't that image an heavy spoiler ?

>> No.4846862


I've no idea, I haven't played AT3 since I can't speak moon. I've got plenty of images of them and thought that the OP image was cute so I used it, my apologies if I spoiled something.

>> No.4846869

Oh well, by the time the game comes out people will have forgotten.

>> No.4846876

Don't think it's really a spoiler, it's not like they're anything important.

>> No.4846944

Vista is the blue one, XP is the pink one. Apparently there's several others, but they're not shown in-game.

They're pretty useless anyway.

Only good bit they have in the whole game is when Vista goes all HAL 9000 on Tilia.

>> No.4847762


I'll never forget them. ;_;

>> No.4847946

What? Harve-sama is Vista?

>> No.4847986

Who is this bandeged up cat girl, and can you make her your waifu.

>> No.4848081

I'm getting really interested in these games, I really wanna play the PS3 one when it comes out.
Is the plot really heavily related to the first two or could I just jump right in and not miss out too much?

>> No.4848082

In before someone complaining about Ar Tonelico threads while there are 8 Touhou threads on the front page.

>> No.4848112


You could play it on its own, but you would be missing out a lot. The story and setting is one of the main draws of the series.

>> No.4848185


Surprisingly we haven't had someone moan in these threads for quite some time.

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Anonymous got sick of seeing Mir having her way with his meido.

I seem to recall Shurelia saying that there are a few more beta Reyvateils running around Platina, but probably none (except Misha) in the wings of Horus. Of course, it's possible that the ones in Platina are just previous Lune clones, and at one point she ALSO basically says "the tower is big, who knows, maybe there's another one out there somewhere".

Oh, Shurelia. I love you, but sometimes I wonder how the tower stays in order ...

>> No.4848364

>previous Lune clones
Unlikely. Lune lineage RTs' mission is to sing EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/. until their deaths.

>> No.4848511

Shurelia says in Toukousphere 17 that they only end up singing for about 20-40 years or so, and then spend the rest of their lives in Platina. Of course, Misha comes along at the beginning of the next one and totally goes off on Shurelia for saying that; Misha says they basically sing until they're used up, and the rest of their lives are probably not very fulfilling after that ...

Which makes sense, if you think about it. That wing of Horus was dropped about 400 years ago, and Misha is the 33rd Reyvateil in the Lune lineage. That gives you an average of 12 years per Hoshiyomi. So, it's true that they don't spend literally their entire lives in the Crescent Chronicle, but the quality of their remaining life is probably questionable, even if they're living in Platina.

I can't find exactly where I read how many Hoshiyomi there have been before Misha. I have a vague recollection Tastiella talks about it in another Toukousphere, but I can't find it off-hand.

>> No.4848614

Filament. She's one of Saki's personality changes, and she's absolutely delicious due to the fact she doesn't actually start off with cat ears and a tail, she GROWS them while she's stripping

>> No.4849022

is there a talk topic guild that just shows when they become available? Ive found some but they include transcripts of the topic as well.

>> No.4849070

What are the best Ar Tonelico 1 & 2 songs?

>> No.4849401

Gamefaqs has good talk topic guides for 1 and 2.


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>> No.4849596

Well, we do pretty much keep it to one thread, so there's not much to complain about outside the argument that it shouldn't be on /jp/, which is a pretty poor argument to make.

In other news, I'm not sure how I'm going to follow these threads for a year and not have AT3 spoiled to hell and back by the time I get to playing it.

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>> No.4849615

Deep breaths, Anonymous, deep breaths

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>> No.4849819

and why is that anyway? shouldn't it be SAKI_FEHU_TILIA_HARVESTASYA? and what teh hell is gamma sublimated?! ARGH

//I should learn to read moonrunes, it could be faster...

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>> No.4849868


Now who said Saki was her real name?

>> No.4849989

It means Sakia Rumei is her REAL personality, and Saki is actually one of the alternate personalities

>> No.4849999


Looks like I missed something. What happen?

>> No.4850011

Fake whining. It was amusing, but inflammatory.

>> No.4850521

Would an integrated graphics card like G45/G43 be enough to run AT/AT2 on emulators? Disgaea was the only game that runs flawlessly for me, so far.

>> No.4850674

Probably. with the exception of the world map the game is entirely 2D.

That said, the world map may be excruciatingly slow.

>> No.4850961

Shit, I spent 5 minutes reading about that last night and now I forgot what it meant.

>> No.4851031

Thanks Wikipedia that it has a mini glossary about the terms, can't see shit in economy mode.

The sublimated gamma body is a special RT conceived to counter the antibody brain by singing EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE/.

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Obligatory image.

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So moe.

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Alright, time to get back to my AT1 playthrough. I still feel kinda bad for ditching Aurica though. ;_;

>> No.4854940

Any scans of the AT3 artbook/ material book yet?

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This thread needs Cocona

>> No.4854979

it's even more fun if you ditch her at the very end of game for shurelia.

>> No.4854995

These truly are the new Rika/idol threads, I see.

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That sounds even worse. At least I broke it off with her before we got 'too close'. I still dived into her as far as I could go though.


Oh no! People are discussing something they enjoy, FUKKEN SAGE.

>> No.4855205

in at1 you can dive into everyone all the way though.

>> No.4855240

So what's a good starting point for this game? I have a low budget
I've heard 2 is better, but I don't really wanna miss out on important things that might be in 1, then again, if I could just read the wikipedia article and enjoy 2, then well yeah.

>> No.4855246

if you're playing it on a real ps2:
1) buy swapmagic
2) download and burn games
3) use swapmagic to boot pirated cds
4) ??????
5) free game + profit

>> No.4855250

That's the thing, my DVD burner has been broken since 2005.

>> No.4855254


You don't have to play the first one to get the second one. You'll miss a bit of Jacqli's background, but aside of that it's two completely different stories.

>> No.4855257

well a new one is very cheap these days.

>> No.4855261

you'll also miss out on delicious shurelia.

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She's not that good.

>> No.4855270

>1) buy swapmagic
Hahaha, oh wow.

>> No.4855285

Who is this bandaged up cat girl, and can you make her your waifu?

>> No.4855305


You forgot choke on a million dicks.

>> No.4855315

kind of hard to run a pirated cd on a non-hacked ps2 without a swap magic dvd.

>> No.4855321


None. They're all shit compared to the Ar Tonelico 3 soundtracks.

>> No.4855341


I fucking hate that swap magic and magic slide shit.... I used it for a while but it made me rage so hard that I just bought an NTSC-J PS2. I don't really care about being able to play burned copies, but I do care about playing import discs.

>> No.4855353

>>magic slide
lol. if you have a slim ps2 there's none of that.

slim has a bunch of plastic squares you push into few places to block out all of the sensors, and then you can safely open the cd anytime you want without it stopping.

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Can't you emulate it? Works out cheaper for you and means you can play both the games, assuming you have a computer that isn't 10 years old. But as mentioned you wont miss much apart from some information on the game like what Reyvateils are etc.


see >>4848614.


It's all preference really, just download the Hymmnos albums and give them a listen. They're all in the second post of the thread.


AT3's Hymmnos albums were mildly disappointing after AT2. KOKIA's tracks are very nice and so are some of Akiko Shikata's but there's just not as many good and memorable songs on it, in my opinion. Having shit like EXEC_EP=NOVA/. doesn't help either.


They're all good. In before idort.jpg

>> No.4855396

I told you here >>4848614

>> No.4855439


I do, and it was still a pain. Maybe I'm just fucking lazy.

>> No.4855722


get a modchip, it cost a bit, but region free is a bliss
also simply burning and playing > swap magic

>> No.4856040

Eh, you don't even need it. ESR or HDLoader are easy enough. Well, if you have a fat PS2 still anyway. I have HDLoader, managed to get a 400GB IDE drive that is compatible with the PS2 for like $40 on newegg, it's a bit of a pain to install the games, but not TOO much, and once you do you don't have to worry about it anymore. A few games are incompatible, but very few are incompatible with ESR, so just use that for those. Just need a swapmagic or something similar to do the initial install of FMCB, then you're good to go.

>> No.4856052

Well, I say it's a pain because it tends to take a long time (games transfer at like 600-1200 kb/s over network, sometimes even slower if you're doing it over wifi or something) but the process itself is pretty simple.

>> No.4856064

Oh thank you, sorry...

>> No.4856084

Everyone here owns a modchiped PS2, I don't get why it's so unpopular in the US...

>> No.4856098

I probably would, but softmodding it is easy enough that I've never had a need to.

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>> No.4857118

Limited print run/availability, no advertising, late PS2 release JRPG

>> No.4857228

when do you get to install into misha?

>> No.4857257

It requires at least basic soldering skills, which most Americans don't have, and it's illegal for shops to do it, so few advertise.

>> No.4857270

I hate this grouping. I know it's done based on the fact their singer is the same, but Finnel is the best choice of the two main Reyvateils in her game, whereas Aurica and Luca are just... Just awful.

>> No.4857687


Aurica isn't terrible.

>> No.4857911

She is. She's whiny, needy, and overall comes across as an emo ****. Too close to a real girl who always complains about he looks, even though she's gorgeous.

>> No.4857945

Oui, the "she's to real" argument.

If I ever hear that argument against a fictional character again it will be too soon. Do the people who make these arguments honestly want the characters to be completely divorced from reality?

>> No.4857955

Frankly, yes.

The whole reason we play Galge is that we think real women are bitches. Anything too close to reality is bad because it takes us out of our comfort zone.

>> No.4858003


What the fuck do you want from her? Her village burned down and she lost most of what she had at a young age. She's considered a low class Reyvateil and can't even get a partner so she's effectively 'useless' and forced to do shitty jobs nobody wants by herself. Just because Lyner arrives on the scene doesn't make everything magically fine. You can call her an emo bitch all you want, I personally think she's cute and shy in expressing her feelings because she's used to being alone.

>> No.4858019

Aurica's real problems are her irrationality, possessiveness, and bipolar tendencies.

>> No.4858024

*sigh* I suppose that's a fair point.

Still bothers me every time someone makes the argument, though. It screams of a lack of hope; a cry of defeatism. That's even ignoring the broad brush silliness of "all women are bitches".

>> No.4858060


Aren't all video games an escape, to some degree? It's not significantly more pathetic than the escapism in any other genre. It might be less macho to pretend to be a guy in a relationship with a sane woman rather than a steroid-infused soldier or something, but it's played for the same reason.

>> No.4858098

It's a matter of degree, yes. From my perspective, to need a character to be as unrealistic as the argument commands, it seems like the person making the argument is already "too far gone". It's my pity reaction that I detest.

>> No.4858157

She should have been a genki-girl who always works hard and does her best, and always seems cheerful.

Then has a massive breakdown and becomes violent yandere.

>> No.4858171

If I wasn't too far gone, would I be sat in my room at 2:10AM on a Saturday night, playing a galge?

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Well, I suppose not. But less whining about how pitifule we are, MOAR SHURELIA

>> No.4858341

Is it supposed to be EORIA or EOLIA? I've seen them both, even if official materials.

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>> No.4858457

Ye olde L/R translation funtime special. Personally I'd say EOLIA

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>> No.4858469

It's supposed to be "Eternal Sixteen".

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Take your pick. It's supposed to have the same ending as the other goddesses, as we have seen from the Toukosphere, but one is translated Tyria and the other is translated Frelia. Welp.

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>> No.4858498

Tilia is romanised in-game in AT3 as Tilia, even if they messed up in AT1, so I think we'll be going for Eolia.

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Best Purginist Mir.

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Goro nya?

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Where did Jacqli get Teiwaz from when she changed it anyway?

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Mr. Google says that the Norse rune Teiwaz is known as Tyr in English, which makes a lot of sense given what one Anon said in a previous thread about Mir being seen as a reincarnation of Tilia back in the second age. Unfortunately, the Toukouspheres and settei books don't seem to come right out and say.

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Oh, Fehu is a rune too, so yeah.

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A certain /jp/ autistic probably liked how the OP had blue hair and wings. You know how obsessed he is with Cirno.

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>> No.4860510

You guys are such fucking pedophiles. Oh my fucking god.

>> No.4860548


Nothing wrong with flat-chested girls.

>> No.4860566


You're new here, it seems.

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>> No.4860577

Yeah, I normally post on /b/, but I thought I'd check this place out for a change of pace.

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Am I the only one who likes Infel here? Her personality is really lovely.

>> No.4860640

She's a slut.

>> No.4861022


I'm with you there, Infel is definitely awesome.

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>> No.4861027

Didn't you know? Five years ago, your precious /b/ was a haven for pedos. And not like us, I mean real pedos, those who hump real children.

>> No.4861287

Oh hi Frelia, what are you do-HNNNNNNNNGGGGG

>> No.4861380

I didn't like her as much as the main characters, but she's interesting. She's quite a sympathetic character, when you hear about her motivations. Also, she has nice legs.

>> No.4861697

I wouldn't mind an AU side-game game about her to be honest

>> No.4861737

Well what really made me like her was her antics in Cloche's Cosmosphere, I actually like those jokes she tells, like "RUKA, IRUKA?", etc.

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Infel does have a very delicious and cute voice

>> No.4862912

It's not that the jokes are bad, but... I don't know... they feel cold, and sad.
Like I just want to facepalm against a wall for a minute or two.

>> No.4863056

God damn it stop posting that wallpaper, it's so bad.

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I'm not fond of it either.

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It would be better if it lost the foreground shurelia.

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I see we have a spammer on our hands. Meido will be here soon.

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>> No.4863665

how the hell do you browse the internet on that thing?

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Hmm? I do what everyone else does?

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He's probably talking about your tiny resolution.

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I'm talking about the clutter.

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Is KoG buttmad about something again

>> No.4863785

Thanks for reminding me. I don't even have Tor installed anymore. Tried using it and the network is just too goddamn slow to do anything.

Personally I don't think it's that cluttered. I normally have just firefox open. Though the imacro button can go away since I don't use it much.

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>> No.4863809

what the fuck are those viruses attached to Cirno?
my comp saves the pics as folders instead.

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Yeah, my setup is nearly identical to yours in terms of browser+addons, yet no one in their right mind would call it cluttered. You just have a tiny resolution.

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>> No.4863848


Noscript and grease monkey?

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>> No.4863873

I just have a small monitor. I'm not complaining though, because I got it for free. LCD btw.

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Cleaned it up a bit.

Christ, that is a lot of spam.

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>> No.4863928

If you've got the games on disks, how much effort would be required to rip them to your PC and play them through the emulator? Want to play them on my laptop.

>> No.4863929


Why not? NoScript doesn't interfere with Greasemonkey. Obviously, I trust the code that I inject into the browser myself.

Anyway, what is up with the spam? Is it just the usual gb2/v/ bullshit, or what?

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>> No.4863938

I think it's quite cute that someone is annoyed enough to warrant dumping Cirno images in this thread over any other. It's also funny because a new thread will be made as soon as it hits the bump limit anyway. Thanks for the free bumping though.


It just looks cluttered because you have such a small resolution. Even I think my 1280x1024 is getting a little old, thankfully I'm getting a new 22" or 24" monitor soon with my new rig.


Looks better, you can still clean up some stuff though. You can remove the massive ABP icon and have it sitting in your status bar instead. You can also remove the EN keyboard stuff on your task bar and also hide a few icons to give your self some breathing room.

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>> No.4863944


1. Use imgburn or any equivalent program to rip the .iso files.
2. Download the lazy pack from the OP.
3. Install the emulator and copy the included bios and plugin folders to your install location.
4. Configure your controls.
5. ????
6. Portable Reyvateils.

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what a baka

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>> No.4863978

Irony: the spammer has brought more attention to the thread in the last hour than the six hours before that.

>> No.4863985

>6. Portable Reyvateils.

I wish this were real. ;_; I'll never have a mini Reyveteil in my pocket. sadfrog.jpg

>> No.4863986

That's not what irony means you stupid faggot sage

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I have to turned off (also disabled in start-up) occasionally i turn it on to do a scan... is that sufficent? or should it be on all the time? I already have AVG-Anti Virus and Spybot S&D

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgJrK42dTSg]satellite tv for pc[/url]

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>Image Limit

Dohoho, with 15 posts left until the bump limit too.

>> No.4864017

It's called an MP3 player with your Reyvateil as choice as the background


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hi im new here

>> No.4864054

The EN thing is from me switching over to japanese locale. I can't seem to get rid of it, though I have gotten rid of the icon next to it. I cleaned up the status bar too (had to get an addon) and removed the adblock thing because I don't use it extremely frequently. Tried putting it on the status bar but it doesn't show up, hm. Doesn't matter anyhow. Looks a lot better than before, thanks.

Would post picture but image limit is reached. We'll need another thread soon.

>> No.4864184


You can remove the EN thing, trust me. Right click it > Settings > Language Bar > Unmark the show on desktop option. And keep ABP, it comes in handy for when you need it. Right click it > Options > Show on status bar.

Also I would create a new thread but I'll see if the meido cleans this one up or not.

>> No.4864189

Neat. Thanks.

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sorry I took so long

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You have my thanks meido.

>> No.4864958

Thanks, just done it.

Even my laptop can play these games really well, awesome stuff.

>> No.4865047


We desperately need a bigger version of this picture, if for no other reason than to see Saki's weirdly visible (for official art) labia in glorious high resolution.

>> No.4865118

Try asking for a vector on /w/ if you're that interested.

>> No.4865253


She's got some pointy tits in there, too.

>> No.4865274

Hi there

Any mormons here?

My dad was a mormon and I'm keen to find out more about [url=http://www.secretsofmormons.com]mormonism[/url]

I'm also looking for a review for SecretsofMormons - [url=http://www.secretsofmormons.com]mormons[/url] collection of books.

>> No.4865509

The sweater puppies have been released!

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Best end.

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Question for you guys.

What's up with Reisha's Lullaby being the Key of Mio? IIRC one of the Toukouspheres said the line of Hymnos in the song ("Was yea ra sonwe infel en yor") provides a hint, but I totally don't get it. What's up with the keys? What are they supposed to do?

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Hey guys, what do they mean by Will of Gaea and what does it do?

>> No.4867101

Isn't that just the heroine in phase 2? Whoever you picked is basically turned into the heart of the continent for Gaea, and their will is basically the will of Gaea. No?

>> No.4867378

I wonder if it's due to poor localization. Well it was mentioned at the end that Nenesha was being influenced by the "Will of Gaea" or something, hence she's pretty stubborn about wanting Sublimation to occur (this line is spoken by Luca after you defeat Ryuju).

That's why I'm confused, it wasn't mentioned at all in Phase 3 or 4 but then the term suddenly pops back up in Phase 5.

>> No.4868036

In the Japanese version, it's just the Heart of the Land, that thing you need to have to have Metafalica work. When Nenesha was killed, she left behind a Heart of the Land - the one in the Moon Culvert - probably because, like Cloche or Luca, she was in the middle of singing Metafalica at the time. I think that's what Infel used to "revive" Nenesha. Probably what happened is the revival was imperfect and ended up overpowering Infel, or something. I rather got the impression that Jakuri meant Infel was the one being influenced. The conversation you're referring to is something like (sorry for the crappy off-the-cuff translation) ...

Jakuri: Oh no ... it looks like she's totally taken in by the power of the Heart of the Land ...
Croix: Oh ... ! Like during the creation of the continent ... !
Jakuri: That's right. The power of that imperfect spirit, whose conviction has become everything ... !

I don't remember what they called it on the demon continent, and I don't think I have a save conveniently placed to go find out at the moment, but 大地の心臓 (lit. heart of the land) is what they say at the end of the game, and "Gaea" is always referred to as 魔大陸 (lit. demon continent) once people know what's going on.

Maybe the Settei Book has more. I haven't looked through the translations much, I'm kind of waiting to just get my own copy.

>> No.4868166

Thanks for clearing that up, but what effect has the "Will of Gaea" on people? Nenesha and Infel wasn't making nor guarding a "Gaea" like Cloche/Luca did in Phase 2, or did Nenesha went bonkers after 400 years or so? I'm not so sure, but wasn't the Nenesha at the end of the game taken from the data in the D-Cellophane? Not sure how does the Heart/Will of Gaea affects her data that was excess from D-Cellophane.

Well this is kinda long, thanks in advance for putting up with me.

>> No.4869020

I just spent the past few hours reading the SA thread on AT2, and [spoilers]it looks like the important thing I missed from not playing Luca's path is that Nenesha was kind of really a bitch. So Nenesha being all "fuck your promise, I wanna sing Sublimation and I have pink hair" at the end of the game may have just been Nenesha being Nenesha, and something about the situation (not sure what) made Infel willing to go along with it. She sounded like she was being hypnotized or something, which is what makes me think it was some sort of weird reaction to an incomplete version of Nenesha revived from the Heart of the Land that was under the Moon Culvert. Or something. Remember, that Heart of the Land was basically Nenesha's, according to Loudness. I thought finding it is what made it possible for Infel to bring her back.[/spoiler]

Dunno if it's worth spoilering all this, but eh!

>> No.4869023

I just spent the past few hours reading the SA thread on AT2, and it looks like the important thing I missed from not playing Luca's path is that Nenesha was kind of really a bitch. So Nenesha being all "fuck your promise, I wanna sing Sublimation and I have pink hair" at the end of the game may have just been Nenesha being Nenesha, and something about the situation (not sure what) made Infel willing to go along with it. She sounded like she was being hypnotized or something, which is what makes me think it was some sort of weird reaction to an incomplete version of Nenesha revived from the Heart of the Land that was under the Moon Culvert. Or something. Remember, that Heart of the Land was basically Nenesha's, according to Loudness. I thought finding it is what made it possible for Infel to bring her back.

Dunno if it's worth spoilering all this, but eh!

>> No.4869171


>SA thread on AT2

Usually I'd sage for SA but after a quick look that guy seems to have put a lot of effort into basically transferring AT2 and a lot of its information into a thread.

>> No.4869250


However it seems like he denies the entire existence of the Cocona end for AT2.

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>> No.4869443

Fuckin bots ruined my Ar tonelico thread. T_T

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Thanks, so that's how she is, huh. I'll go play through Luca's route then.

>> No.4869562

I'd rather have bots than faggots like you in the thread.

>> No.4869738

Unfortunately for you, nobody gives a fuck what you think.

Polite sage.

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I dunno, emoticon using faggots clearly need to get out regardless if you care what he says or not.

>> No.4870521 [DELETED] 

Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with that one.

Not that I'm even paying attention to the thread since I'm waiting for the localization.

Ha. Ha. ...It'll happen, won't it? ;_;

>> No.4870533


It might.

Might not turn out so well, even if they say they learned their lesson.

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Ohai there, what are you doing in Cloche's Lv3/4 Cosmosphere, Togasaki?

>> No.4870705

If NISA romanise Ar_Ru/Aruru/Ar Ru as Aru_Ru, skulls will be cracked.

>> No.4870811

They've said they are VERY interested, but nothing concrete has been announced.

Still waiting for them to announce the English release date of Atelier Rorona, it's supposed to be released Q2 ;_;

>> No.4871643

>Still waiting for them to announce the English release date of Atelier Rorona, it's supposed to be released Q2 ;_;

Yeah, an english release date and price would really help me here. Same with Trinity Universe (it's supposedly released in June but no exact date yet, nor price). There are several games, both already out and upcoming, that I'm interested in, but I'm broke and only have enough for one or two games, depending on their cost (if the game is $50 or above I only have enough for one). Most of the ones I want are $40. If I just knew how much Rorona and TU cost; if they're $60 I can eliminate them for the choices unless I *really* want one of them that badly.

Oh sorry, just the ramblings of a rambling man. But since NISA is releasing two games in the summer (not to mention they just got done with Sakura Wars) and we haven't heard confirmation that they got AT3 yet, we probably won't get AT3 until next year. It's going to be a long wait.

>> No.4871753


You could risk it and wait a couple of months after they're released for the price to go down, they may go out of stock though since I know quite a few niche RPGs that only have a limited run before they're sold out completely.

>> No.4871810


Yeah. Plus I feel like I should contribute to sales to give the idea to devs that *some* people like their games, but I don't think devs and pubs count sales anymore after a month or two (do they?), so I feel like I shouldn't take too long buying them new.

>> No.4872104

Sales usually average out after the first couple of weeks after launch, so the first couple of months after launch is usually enough for them to map out how well a game will sell overall.

>> No.4872190

Anyone know where I can buy the Hymmnos concert CDs? Can't even find both of the ones for AT3 anywhere.

>> No.4872508


Play-Asia has the AT1 and AT2 albums, it's not that hard to find them although they're pretty damn expensive.

>> No.4872537

*looks up pricing*
ouch... and that's before shipping.

>> No.4873051

That's actually WAY less than I was expecting to pay, thanks.

Still can't find the Side Red for AT3 though.

>> No.4873082

Nevermind, found it.

Now I can't remember where I saw side blue ;_;

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Good god, I finally managed to stop looping the same few Hymmnos tracks after like a week straight. They're far too addictive to listen to. Although now I've got the Angel Beats OP/ED stuck in my head instead.. urgh.

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>> No.4874409


I've been listening to my "Ar Tonelibros" playlist on my hour-long drive to and from work every day for something like 3 or 4 months now. It's probably the only thing that motivates me to drag my ass all the way out there day after day.

>> No.4874432

Ive listened to method_metafalica and exec_over_method_sublimination - omness chs ciel sos infel for months

>> No.4874516

Hey /jp/, I'm playing AT3 and I am getting raped in the first area at the beginning of phase 3. My party is average level 33. Am I underleveled, or is there supposed to be a HUGE difficulty spike?

>> No.4874591

Wait what?

The only time I found the game difficult is when I didn't understand the purge system (kept trying to multi purge).

Equip the +def and increased health restoration humors (hyuma?)

>> No.4874627

Yeah, I've been going near full defense since the beginning. I'm finding it difficult because the average enemy HP seems to have jumped from ~3k to ~15k, and either Cocona or Gojou runs off and gets killed in what feels like only 4 or 5 hits.

>> No.4874661

When you went through areas with enemies, did you normally end up depleting the enemy encounter bar before getting to the next scene?

>> No.4874762

Yeah...I didn't stick around in any area for more than one or two bars though.

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>> No.4876885

I've not got that far yet, but I'm certain you're underlevelled. My party is all level 24 at the start of Phase 2.

>> No.4876921


So cute. Are there any for the third ones?

>> No.4876988


Not yet, I'll post it when it's put up on Pixiv by the artist.

>> No.4877412
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Your big thing is so hot, Anonymous.

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I'd buy their album.

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Dem feet.

>> No.4881315


dat back

>> No.4881423

dat hoe

>> No.4881984


You shut your whore mouth.

>> No.4882405

I never even beat the first one...

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There's nothing to stop you, Anonymous.

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Despite my resolution being decent, I still think mine is kind of cluttered instead.

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>> No.4883475

Unused bookmarks tab, massive taskbar. Well, yeah.

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Uploaded now that the spammer's posts were deleted.

Thanks, meido.

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God damn, I need to stop mindlessly refreshing /jp/ all day and actually continue my AT1 playthrough again. And I still need to play RoF etc. too, urgh..

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Could someone shed some light on this question?

>> No.4887735

I can't help you. I'm wondering how could Reisha have a RT child while she is just a human.

>> No.4887759
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Well anyone could have carried a RT gene in them, just that Reisha never awakened as one. That was mentioned in the Toukousphere. Hell even Lyner could have been carrying a RT gene.

Read Leard's answer in this post:

>> No.4887959

Oh I see, thanks.

>> No.4889055
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Is anyone aware of where the route lockout point is in AT3? I ask because I am partway through phase 3 (just before going to Arkia again to rescue Akane) with 3/3 Finnel affection points, and I'm wondering if I've locked myself out of Tilia's route.

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Just woke up, time to play AT1 all day. Hopefully I'll at least finish up Misha or Shurelia today. My only concern is if I can handle Misha's lines at the start and end of battles, I've heard them so much already so they're quite annoying and I'm only at the start of Phase 2..

>> No.4889838

If you've got 3 hearts on any girl, you're automatically locked out of the other two's routes.

Need 2/1 to get Tilia.

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And of course Aurica has to show up just to remind me that I'm a faggot. ;_;

>> No.4890404


somebody here better buy this and scan it

>> No.4890538

Misha's antics gets old pretty fast and Aurica is shit for 90% of the game. MULE is the only choice.

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So I see this in the two minutes or two that Aurica joins me for then I lose Misha's loli form too. I feel like I've made the wrong choice.

>> No.4890554


Two minutes or so*

>> No.4890555

lol no route. I'd still take Misha.

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Well that was pretty fun. Fighting Bourd with EXEC_LINCA/. then immediately followed up with EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/..

>> No.4891471

You went to the church with the emo girl instead of helping Misha recover her D-cellophane?

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Hama.. ;_;


What? No. I helped Misha get back her Chronicle Key but before you can get up to Crescent Chronicle the Church decides to attack Platina where Aurica was being used, which is why she was singing EXEC_LINCA/.. After you fight Bourd Misha is then clear to start singing EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/. at which point everyone comes back to their senses and Aurica stops singing. Well, apart from Ayatane mind raping Shurelia.

>> No.4891605

And that is why Lyner is an asshole. Hama's too good for him.

>> No.4891615

Idiot or Moron would be more accurate. Asshole implies malice.

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Suddenly surprise EXEC_PAJA/.#Misya extracting while Mir continues to troll Shurelia.

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A pedo Lyner is fine too.

>> No.4892297

Hey, c'mon, he made a goddamn ocarina when he was a kid. If a little minigirl suddenly talked to you, would you immediately guess she was the clay plate you did in primary school craftmanship class?

>> No.4892300

So really, what are the best settings to run the games on the emulator?

>> No.4892350

Does any of the side materials somehow address the fact that Lyner is apparently the most insanely gifted grathmelder ever? One of the audio dramas actually explains where his Impulse skill comes from, but they all skip the fact that the fucker manufactures a pocket-sized version of the Symphonic Reactor, therefore pretty much surpassing first era technology, all without knowing the first thing about symphonic science. It's like when Iris began crafting stuff just by watching in Ateliere Iris 2.

>> No.4892363

It may be a combination of his brain being geared towards engineering and such, and the fact that he basically went around the world and found every single recipe ever.

>> No.4892397

Question: Why does Jacqli do the Danjo dance for her win pose?

>> No.4892450

I thought she does the Twist.

>> No.4892470

Because she's awesome like that

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Decisions decisions..

Also I thought Mir was supposed to be hard? She got one shot by Thunderclap, Ayatane was harder..

>> No.4892590

Savestate and see both!

>> No.4892597

Choose the first choice first, though. The second choice continues on with the story.

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I like how the 'Fin' image used has loli Misha.

>> No.4892882

A week-old thread? Holy crap.

>> No.4892884

I always wondered, what's that...area...on Lyner's thighs?

>> No.4892912

he'a s failed male version reyvateil

heavy emphasis on failed

>> No.4893030

Oh that's not the half of it. This is the fourth thread in the chain.

>> No.4893096

There's been a lot more than that. A lot more.

>> No.4893118

>Finnel in that link

dat back... again!

>> No.4893127

ZR? On my Lyner?

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Gentlemen.. I have obtained my waifu.


Welcome to /jp/.

>> No.4894034

Correct. I intended to finish that sentence with "since I started following them"

>> No.4894330

And you almost made a mini Infel Phira in AT2 with Sasha's help. Sometimes I think the main characters are too gifted at making technological products and yet they can't even make proper food to eat.

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I underestimated how long it would take to finish this. I finished up Phase 2 today but I've only really started Phase 3, I should be able to finish up tomorrow I guess.

>> No.4894501

I dunno if it was just me, but I picked the best reyvatiel the most adorable misha - and before phase 1 was over, I somehow got into her 8th level cosmosphere.

It was great having her awesome outfits that were completely overpowered for that phase of the game.

I wonder if getting that deep into her mind was a bug or not.

>> No.4894514

Already? Fuck yeah. Guess I'd better hurry up and finish AT3 then (I just got my PS3 yesterday).

>> No.4894540

While impressive, I still think there's a difference between a learned craftsman coming up with it in their workshop via research and with assitance, and Lyner coughing up an IMPROVED version of the world-destroying reactor/bomb while taking a break in his FUCKING TENT completely by himself having no theoretical knowledge and using extremely advanced components pretty much nobody knows jack shit about, which he also made in the exact same fashion by tinkering half-blindly.

You could probably give the guy some wires and a bit of plutonium and he'd cough up a Flux Capacitor.

>> No.4894594

Game mechanics and story segregation. They give you so many DP from combat that if you do any level grinding in the game you can basically clear all the way to the item requirement. The DP costs in the cosmospheres are effectively nothing.

>> No.4894660


Throw a tree at a random mob, get an easy 3000 or so DP. Repeat as needed. It's stupidly easy to get far in their spheres (as was mentioned in the last thread) but I tried to refrain from pushing too far since I didn't really want to make the game easier than it already is.

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Cool hat, Luca.

>> No.4895591

Yeah, I'm kind of hoping the DP requirements for item synthesis balance this out somewhat in AT3 but know it won't

>> No.4895638

I'm trying to think of anything that could deal with typically ending the game with +50k spare DP with every RT.

I don't think a DP cost for item synthesis is going to cut it.

>> No.4895699


I hope she arrests me and takes me to her personal prison cell. If you know what I mean.

>> No.4896259

how do you fight the Child of Light again in AT1?

>> No.4896686


fight 5 random fights ( you have to win, no running) and she is ready for the next round

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The random battles take longer than the fight, le sigh.

Want to use her to nuke Mir, though.

>> No.4897081


I got more mileage out of Ar Tonelico, honestly.

>> No.4897164

For the graphics setting check the previous AT threads.
As for Sound, just use whatever that came with the emulator beta pack.
Remember to get the gustfix.exe if you're experiencing screwed up backgrounds.

>> No.4897201

New thread at >>4897198.

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