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Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:35:23 2010 No.4739712 [Reply] [Original]

Look, maybe this is a cliche topic, but someone please help me out here.

Gensokyo.

Economy.

How the hell does it work?

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Sat Mar 27 07:35:23 2010 No.4739715 The Recession really hit the Yakumos hard

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:36:23 2010 No.4739718 Which part? The tengu/kappa and humans have completely separate economies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:37:23 2010 No.4739721 File: 1.14 MB, 1050x1125, 7237272.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh, don't forget the underground. It's probably separate too.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:38:23 2010 No.4739727 Secaucus? EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

>>	Shifty Scandaroon Sat Mar 27 07:39:51 2010 No.4739732 File: 76 KB, 620x825, stupid blind slut 29.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4739721

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Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:40:23 2010 No.4739738

Where the heck does the money come from, to start with? Bills get worn down, coins get lost...

With the way Gensokyo is isolated from the outside world, I'd assume a primitive bartering-based society. But Perfect Memento makes specific mention both of shopping and monetary donations.

...?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:42:23 2010 No.4739746 >>4739721 I want to travel to gensokyo and engage in triangular arbitrage between tengu/human/underground currencies

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:42:23 2010 No.4739748 >>4739738 They pay for things with sex.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:43:23 2010 No.4739750 File: 44 KB, 600x840, ron_paul_photo_42.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] They use the gold standard.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:43:23 2010 No.4739751

>>4739738
This is pretty much the main point that fucks it all up in my head. I can accept Gensokyo being some sort of idealized commune or Marxist society (insert joke about how the only place that'd work would be a fantasyland here, then quickly move on), but even then, reconciling that with the presence of actual money--like, banknotes and stuff--

Yeah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:44:23 2010 No.4739752 >>4739738 Individual mini-states (whatever the fuck the government is) probably mints gold or other metals into crude coins. You know, how they used to do it during the era this "fantasy" setting depicts.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:44:23 2010 No.4739756 >>4739712 It doesn't. Stop expecting touhou to make sense.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:46:23 2010 No.4739768

>>4739752
Yeah, that's the problem. There doesn't seem to be much of a government at all in Gensokyo. No government, no money. But there is money, which means...

I don't know what the hell that means.

Alternatively, there is a government in Gensokyo, and I've been really hasty in assuming there's not, even though it seems like the human village would be a relatively small speck in that whole place.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:47:23 2010 No.4739773 >>4739750 oh god, please tell me you arent from the "GW"

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:49:23 2010 No.4739779
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>>4739752
It's not just minting coins, I'm pretty sure bank notes where depicted. And one can safely assume Reimu's head is not on these bills, as she won't need to collect donation if she was responsible for printing the money.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:51:23 2010 No.4739785 >>4739768 Crude valuable coins don't need a real government

>>	Yutanpo !1DeKKAi00Y Sat Mar 27 07:51:23 2010 No.4739786 prostitution

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:52:23 2010 No.4739790

Presumably this stuff randomly filters into gensokyo over time due to various reasons, namely Yukari.

I would assume that they accept any and all notes or coins at face value. I doubt they differentiate between a 10 dollar bill or a 10 cent coin, they simply accept it as 'ten' and move on. Actual value is probably based on the local economy and what people happen to need at the time.

Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:52:23 2010 No.4739791
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My understanding is that there is some trade between the humans and the youkai. Even the touhous are known to do business with the humans.

I am certain some of the youkai have discovered the joy of human cuisine.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:52:23 2010 No.4739792 >>4739768 It's the perfect stateless libertarian society.

>>	Yutanpo !1DeKKAi00Y Sat Mar 27 07:56:23 2010 No.4739803 >>4739791 >human cuisine why yes. yes they have.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:56:23 2010 No.4739804 They have money, but often pay in goods. Rinnosuke's pretty clearly used to accepting goods as payment.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 07:58:23 2010 No.4739808 >>4739779 Such bills could be old-style, which is to say "backed" by something and written as I.O.U.'s. See >>4739750 ronpaul idiot. Probably backed by salt, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 08:00:23 2010 No.4739818 File: 199 KB, 500x600, 1265611215910.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4739803

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 08:01:23 2010 No.4739824 It doesn't seem like youkai make their own wares the same way humans do, so I imagine there's a market for human-made goods. Besides, all you need to have an economy, is just a human population.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 08:50:23 2010 No.4740035 >>4739712 Don't apply common sense to Gensokyo

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 27 08:58:23 2010 No.4740074 >>4739824 Nitori IS the commercial industry in Gensokyo, only she's too shy to speak out and lets other people take the credit. She'll drown one of their children now and again, so it all works out.

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