Hey /jp/, have you ever tried to make a story about Touhou before?

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Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:46:23 2010 No.4714010 [Reply] [Original]

Hey /jp/,
have you ever tried to make a story about Touhou before?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:48:23 2010 No.4714024 Fanfiction is for faggots.

>>	Manly Tue Mar 23 21:48:23 2010 No.4714027 Many times, good? Perhaps.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:48:23 2010 No.4714032 File: 122 KB, 436x516, aya.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] http://www.touhou-project.com/ Yes. The shame is overwhelming.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:49:23 2010 No.4714034 does fantasizing every night count

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:49:23 2010 No.4714037 Tried? I've succeeded. It's terrible and I will never show it to anyone.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:50:23 2010 No.4714045 >>4714032 Are you being sarcastic because if you're actually ashamed you might want to rethink your reasons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:51:23 2010 No.4714053 >>4714037 This. it was fun though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:52:23 2010 No.4714057 >>4714045 I'm not sure im following you, what reasons would i have to be rethinking?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:52:23 2010 No.4714059 File: 253 KB, 1920x1160, Untitled-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] yeah - vague inklings of a touhou-related vn, but writing isn't my strong point - still, its fun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:52:23 2010 No.4714061 I'm playing a Touhou p&p rpg. What do you think?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:53:23 2010 No.4714068 >>4714032 Is there anything decent running there right now? I haven't been there since SDM:LA ended.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:54:23 2010 No.4714069 I can't put my magnificent ideas into words is this retardation?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:56:23 2010 No.4714085 File: 160 KB, 500x500, Getout.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4714010 >touhou fanfiction Get out AD agents.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:57:23 2010 No.4714093

>>4714068
There's The Game on the main board and Paligensia (some retardedly long title) in /underground/ The latter is like reading the manifesto of someone's life it's that fucking long. I get headaches trying to even attempt to read it. There's other festering shit about though, much like tg-chan there's a few creative sparks in otherwise a dry vacuum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:58:23 2010 No.4714101 >>4714057 Your reasons for being ashamed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 21:58:23 2010 No.4714102 Fanfiction is always shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:01:23 2010 No.4714130 >>4714101 We'll it's plagiarism for a start.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:01:23 2010 No.4714132 >>4714059 What program is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:02:23 2010 No.4714138 >>4714102 >Implying doujins are bad Inb4 "derp doujins aren't fanfiction!" or "I only read the porn ones"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:03:23 2010 No.4714144 >>4714130 ... It is not. You're dumb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:03:23 2010 No.4714145 >>4714138 >butthurt AD author

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:04:23 2010 No.4714154 >>4714138 who said they are good?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:05:23 2010 No.4714163 >>4714144 ... It is. You're dumb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:06:23 2010 No.4714171 >>4714132 http://www.habitualindolence.net/labyrinth/

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:07:23 2010 No.4714177 >>4714010 Maybe. Yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:08:23 2010 No.4714184 >>4714034 Sure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:08:23 2010 No.4714189 >>4714154 >implying doujins aren't good

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:09:23 2010 No.4714190 >>4714163 No, it isn't. Derivative works are not plagiarism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:11:23 2010 No.4714217 This is interesting, apparently people plagiarize fucking fanfiction. How fucking low do you have to be to rip off fanfiction? http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2006/01/18/fan-fiction-plagiarism/

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:13:23 2010 No.4714227 One of you actually post something you're writing. DO IT FAGGOTS.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:14:23 2010 No.4714232 File: 56 KB, 704x391, 29e636b745a8dcd9b4ac5486283f8a26.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4714227 You sure you want to see?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:16:23 2010 No.4714248 >>4714232 Yes. Also head over to touhou-project if you want to see people actually writing.

Manly Tue Mar 23 22:17:02 2010 No.4714253 [DELETED]

>>4714227

The streets were dark as the day said goodbye to the setting sun, all that illuminated the streets were the faint glow of weakened streetlights and the passing of car high beams. There were still people walking these streets, however, people with jobs to do. All manner of prostitutes, dealers, and gangsters called these streets home and the night afforded them great safety.

"Fucking shit, man, you trying to get us fucking busted? Hurry the fuck up!", the girl looked around a little uneasy.

The other girl flicked her jet black hair, "Shut your fucking mouth, por favor? I've almost got all the money off dis gringo"

"Whatever, just hurry up okay?", the girl's ears perked, listening for any sounds, pulling her hat over her face to cover her identity.

the voice beckoned from the shadowy alley, "Ufufufu, what do we have here?"

The girl with the magicians hat froze in her place, stood for a moment and drew something out of her pocket, "Who the fuck is that? Damn it Reimu, let's get the fuck out of here!""

A flash illuminated the dark alley for but a fraction of a second, the two girls could see that it was a winged women, beautiful, short jetblack hair hugged the outline of her face, her red eyes cut through the darkness along with the camera flash. She pulled out another thing that could take "shots". Before the girls could even move a foot each of them already had a 9 millimetre pill stuck in their brain, the soup of their brains leaked out into the alley gutters as the bird woman walked her way towards the lifeless corpses

"What a joke, it's as if none of my fellow compadres can even make a competant game plan!"

The crow lady rifled through the pockets of the girls, "Hah! All my monies right here!", The woman groped the breasts of the red white and the magician, "damn, that feels nice, they could of made fine prostitutes~"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:19:23 2010 No.4714274 >>4714190 But this isn't derivative work it's verbatim 'theft'. Derivative work would be being inspired by the game world and going off and making your own fantastical one with lolis that shoot bullets. Not out-rightly taking the whole damn game.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:19:23 2010 No.4714279 >>4714253 >could of

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:21:23 2010 No.4714287 File: 45 KB, 244x273, kogosa wut.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4714253 ... What?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:22:23 2010 No.4714292 >>4714274 >has no fucking idea what a derivative work is

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:22:23 2010 No.4714294 Fan fiction is illegal if the author decides they want to enforce their copyright. Most of them are not massive dicks and choose not to do so.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:23:23 2010 No.4714307 File: 29 KB, 622x357, kinzo unimpressed.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4714292 No, you don't. And we can keep this 9 year old banter up all night if we have to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:24:23 2010 No.4714318 >>4714307 you could just shut the fuck up, but no, you're a trolling faggot so you'll just keep spewing your drivel.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:25:23 2010 No.4714326 >>4714318 I'm sorry that you're wrong, you could of also stopped posting when you realised this.

>>	HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Tue Mar 23 22:25:23 2010 No.4714330 >>4714227 Do you really want to read a long winded only tangentally Touhou-related oni chronicle ranging from paleolithic mainland Asia to 1969?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:26:23 2010 No.4714332 I just tried to write fanfiction for this thread, but got a headache 3 lines in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:26:23 2010 No.4714334 >>4714326 >could of >realised

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:26:23 2010 No.4714343 I haven't played Touhou since 2008. I read doujins. I write fanfiction. I make Touhou threads everyday. I'M SECONDARY AND PROUD

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:27:23 2010 No.4714344 >>4714330 actually - yeah >>4714059 here - some nice background material on oni would be a nice read, I don't know enough about them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:27:23 2010 No.4714345 >>4714330 Fuck yes I do. I love your posts and would read anything you wrote.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:27:23 2010 No.4714346 File: 22 KB, 340x439, haters gonna lean.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4714334 >petty jives >greentexting >aren't i the coolest kid on the block? You're a true bro.

>>	Crix !!RpOLjtsjwNS Tue Mar 23 22:27:23 2010 No.4714347 Paligensia is the best story.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:28:23 2010 No.4714355 File: 39 KB, 300x474, derivative.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] CHECK OUT MY AWESOME DERIVATIVE WORK

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:29:23 2010 No.4714359 >>4714355 THAT'S THEFT, YOU CUNT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:30:23 2010 No.4714363 >>4714359 NO IT ISN'T. I ALSO DO FOUNTAINS. MY FOUNTAINS ARE FAMOUS.

>>	HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Tue Mar 23 22:30:23 2010 No.4714367 >>4714344 >>4714345 What if it doesn't follow the "modern" Japanese folklore strictly but groups together a wide range of Asian mythology into a general "horned giant" family of myths?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:32:23 2010 No.4714373 >>4714363 YOU'RE A FUCKING BLAGGARD, GET OUT OF MY ESTABLISHMENT!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:32:23 2010 No.4714375 >>4714367 You're acting like more than maybe 1% of us know much about modern Japanese mythology or any mythology for that matter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:33:23 2010 No.4714379 >>4714367 it's all good - hell a good chunk of what I'm planning on writing is inspired by an entry in a pnp rpg sorurcebook.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:33:23 2010 No.4714382 >>4714367 Sounds good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:36:23 2010 No.4714399 >>4714346 >implying that I am in the wrong for pointing out the irony in someone who hasn't even the faintest command of English playing at being an author

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:38:23 2010 No.4714414 >>4714399 >being an author Excuse me, but, what the fuck are you talking about?

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:39:23 2010 No.4714427
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The streets were dark as the day said goodbye to the setting sun, all that illuminated the streets were the faint glow of weakened streetlights and the passing of car high beams. Still people walked these streets, people with jobs to do. All manner of prostitutes, dealers, and gangsters called these streets home and the night afforded them great safety.

"Fucking shit, man, you trying to get us fucking busted? Hurry the fuck up!", the girl with the magician's hat said as she looked around.

The other girl flicked her jet black hair, "Shut your mouth, por favor? I've almost got all the money off dis gringo"

Suddenly a voice beckoned from the shadowy alley, "Ufufufu, what do we have here?"

The girl with the magician's hat froze in her place, stood for a moment and drew something out of her pocket, "Who the fuck is that? Damn it Reimu, let's get the fuck out of here!"

A flash illuminated the dark alley for but a fraction of a second, the two girls could see that it was a winged women. Beautiful, short jetblack hair hugged the outline of her face and her red eyes cut through the darkness along with the camera flash.The woman pulled out something else that could take shots.Before the girls could even move a foot each of them had already taken a 9 millimetre pill to the brain, the soup of their brains leaked out into the alley gutters as the bird woman stritted her way towards the lifeless corpses like a fashion model.

The bird lady chuckled as she rifled through the pockets of the girls, "Hah! All my money is right here!", The woman groped the breasts of the red white and the magician, "damn, that feels nice, they could of made fine prostitutes~"

A call from the darkness.

"Madame, it seems that the police are one the way, shall we take our leave?", this woman had white hair and dog ears with the same head fitting short hair and red eyes, she held a furry coat in her arm.

>>	Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Tue Mar 23 22:41:23 2010 No.4714441 >>4714427 Please familiarize yourself with proper English sentence structure.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:42:23 2010 No.4714446 >>4714441 I am turkish.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:44:23 2010 No.4714456 >>4714427 I feel vaguely annoyed that I spent time reading this. Keep writing anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:45:23 2010 No.4714460 >>4714446 That's no excuse. You should write like a native.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:45:23 2010 No.4714461 >>4714441 >he takes fanfiction seriously >laughingpseudointellectuals.jpg

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:45:23 2010 No.4714462 >>4714441 please go fuck yourself

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:45:23 2010 No.4714463

>>4714399
Are you fucking seriously trying to tell me that changing one fragment of a persons work can pass off as derivative work? Seriously? By that standard those fucking sonichu abortions are derivative art. But they're not. You know this and I know this. Stop fucking kidding yourself to try and win this argument. Derivative work comes from ones ability to take away concepts and ideas from a piece of work, not to smear shit on it and pass it off as your own.

>>4714414
He made an accurate guess, I'll give him that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:46:23 2010 No.4714469 >>4714446 sandnigger thinking he can write

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:48:23 2010 No.4714478 >>4714441 >>4714469 If you know of any well english resourses I would be very happy.

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Tue Mar 23 22:48:23 2010 No.4714479

Well, then... here's the general idea of it.

Oni are a humanoid, horned, carnivorous and generally predatory species of semi-mystical qualities. Oni defy linnaean classification and have no known relatives among mundane species - there exist rare youkai breeds, such as the Amanojaku and Shojo (although Shojo refers to two unrelated creatures), that are thought to have branched off from the oni evolutionary tree, but the exact relation is debated. Due to their long lifespans, long generation gaps and status as uncontested superpredators, oni have virtually ceased evolving.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:49:23 2010 No.4714492 >>4714479 Quit hyping and post the thing! Upload it or paste it in pastebin or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:51:23 2010 No.4714509 >>4714463 >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_work#Definition

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:55:23 2010 No.4714542 >>4714509 Could you please not greentext links? It makes them slightly more difficult to copy/paste.

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Tue Mar 23 22:56:23 2010 No.4714545

Oni/human relations have varied greatly over time, based on culture, tradition and the individuals involved. Generally lone oni or loose-knit associations keep peaceful relations with humans, although occasional lone oni may become a local menace and prey on humans. Oni usually only pose a major threat when a malicious leader gathers a war band, such as that mentioned in the story of Momotaro. In stark contrast there are occasional major oni settlements which keep at least a non-aggression pact with human neighbours. However, this sort of settlement goes against oni mentality and is thus rare - as of 2010, Former Hell is the only reported to be permanently occupied.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 22:57:23 2010 No.4714551 >>4714542 stopi being a faggot and use linkification or equivalent

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:03:23 2010 No.4714598 >>4714551 Thank you for telling me about this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:07:23 2010 No.4714636 >>4714509 Cool law, bro, how very low brow of you. I thought we were discussing the finer points of sources of inspiration, apparently you just want to sling shit and greentext like a little bitch.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:08:23 2010 No.4714646 >>4714545 I'm very interested in this.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:10:23 2010 No.4714664

>>4714636
sadness, my one post in this thread, and I get yelled at by an angry man, I need someone to comfort me.

all I am is a poor boy trying to help you understand what is considered a derivative work and what is not, and here I am getting accosted ;_;

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Tue Mar 23 23:11:23 2010 No.4714672

>>4714492

The only stuff I had written down previously was keywords and milestones. Writing it down in this form right now.

While the cradle of humanity can be traced to Northeastern Africa, that of oni remains uncertain. Whooly mammoth bones bearing stripping scars marks the oldest archaeological evidence of oni activity at 35.000 BC, central Siberia, with no known previous traces. Archeological evidence is and will likely remain rare as paleolithic oni do not seem to have produced tools, nor have practiced any form of ceremonial burial.
Early signs of human bones stripped by previously unseen predators, later identified as oni, first appear at the time of the mass extinction at the end of the latest ice age. Surviving the great majority of their main prey, oni appear to have turned on the major competition for sustenance. This originally simple conflict of eat-or-be-eaten has since evolved into a highly complex cultural phenomenon, to the point that the complicated relationship with humanity is long since part of the general oni psyche.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:12:23 2010 No.4714681 >>4714664 You're just a poor boy; you need no sympathy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:13:23 2010 No.4714687 >>4714681 *I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:13:23 2010 No.4714688
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You don't even know.

I've got so much shit lined up in my folders, I just need to become a competent artist before I make some dough-gin-shee. The scripts are all written down, all the reference material is saved in my folders, I have a metric fuckton of bookmarks researching real folklore to mix in... I even have the page where the artist just says random comments about the work planned out.

I just need to stop sucking ass at drawing.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:17:23 2010 No.4714707
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>>4714664

I thought you were the other guy, my bad.

>what is considered a derivative work
>considered

Great so it's subjective, I can go to bed at least. Fucking internet arguments.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:18:23 2010 No.4714711 >>4714688 You've seen some of the worse stuff from comiket, right? Don't worry about it. I want to post an old Suzuka doujin with terrible art but I didn't save it and can't find it anywhere.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:18:23 2010 No.4714715 sage for fanfic

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:22:23 2010 No.4714731 >>4714688 >suck ass at drawing http://www.icrit.org/ We want to help you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:26:23 2010 No.4714764 >>4714598 you're welcome - and I apologize for sounding like a moron - bad day today.

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Tue Mar 23 23:34:23 2010 No.4714819

The loss of available game and competition with weaker but numerically superior humans marks the beginning of a migration trend in oni history. From legend and occasional (human made) artefacts, it appears by around 10.000 BC at least occasional groups of oni have existed from the Philippines in the South to the Amur region in the North. The Siberian oni population appears to have declined since (being long extinct today), and traces are few and far between. Tattoos depicting horned predators upon the Pazyryk "Ice Maiden" (500 BC) have been interpreted as depicting remaining Siberian oni, although this interpretation is contested.
The last sign of oni on the Western half of the Asian mainland, and also the Westernmost encounter historically, stems from the Visigothian sack of Rome in 410 AD. An unnamed witness records a "horned giant of a man" accompanying the invaders, although the account has never been verified independently, and is currently suspected to have been fabricated as Vatican propaganda.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:36:23 2010 No.4714824 >>4714731 Please teach me! I should just read up on all the stuff in the resources link? >>4714711 I want it to be right the first time.

Manly Tue Mar 23 23:38:23 2010 No.4714839

>>4714824
Resources will be very helpful, but I'm guessing you want to start drawing anime right away?

Since this isn't /ic/ or icrit I'd say just look at tour favourite anime artists and see what they do while also doing a few anatomy studies so that your anime has a firm realistic base.

>>4714731
No advertising on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:39:23 2010 No.4714844 I'm thinking about making a Touhou game with RPG maker. The story would go like this : a normal human NEET browsing /jp/ suddenly finds himself in Gensokyo. There he meet a few touhou before they all get into a parallel, evil world full of bad shit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:41:23 2010 No.4714858 >>4714819 Poor oni.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:41:23 2010 No.4714865 >>4714844 Drop the NEET main character. It's cliche.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:44:23 2010 No.4714885

>>4714824
I wouldn't bother reading drawing on the right side of the brain if I were you. I read it a while back and can say that most of it is a load of crap. All you need to learn from it (while very important) can be summed up in a few lines.

When you're drawing something, realize that you are not drawing whole objects (a hat, a girl, a hand, etc.). What you are drawing is a large collection of various lines/shades/possibly colors. For example, look at your thumb. Ignoring the detail inside, the outside could be broken down into a few lines (one that curves inward on the left then one that curves outward on the left, then one that again curves inward on the left, a sort of round curve at the top, etc.) If you look at it as just being these lines, it's much easier to draw than if you simply think "I'm drawing a thumb." That's all the book teaches you but in much less space, so don't read it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:50:23 2010 No.4714918 >>4714839 I don't really have a favorite anime artist. Any that I should be looking at? Truth be told, I don't even know if anime is really what I'm aiming toward.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:52:23 2010 No.4714933 >>4714885 Sometimes it is good to have simple ideas such as this explained with many words and examples. Because people are dumb.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:53:23 2010 No.4714945 >>4714918 Just go look at pictures on pixiv or whereever until you find some artists you like.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:55:23 2010 No.4714959 >>4714933 Maybe, but it would be helpful if the examples weren't explained with blatant lies and retarded ideas like in that book.

>>	Manly Tue Mar 23 23:58:23 2010 No.4714969 >>4714918 Go on gelbooru or something, my personal favourite anime artists are Humikane Shimada, and that guy who did artwork for little witch something or other. >>4714885 I agree with you but I found the exercises very helpful when I was starting out!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 23:59:23 2010 No.4714973 My Story, some bitches fly on brooms and shoot shit at each other.

Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:01:23 2010 No.4714981

>>4714969
You could easily come up with equivalent exercises by yourself and skip reading through her inane ideas about the brain. They were all basically just telling you to focus on the basic lines and draw what you see anyway. Although, I guess that upside down exercise was kinda helpful. Drawing something upside down does kinda shout in your face that you're supposed to be drawing lines, not objects.

>>	Manly Wed Mar 24 00:04:23 2010 No.4714995 >>4714981 Well there is a thread on their /sug/ board with some alternative starter books.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:06:23 2010 No.4715005 >>4714995 Cool, I've never actually been to the site. I was just commenting on this book in particular.

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Wed Mar 24 00:12:23 2010 No.4715034

Depictions in Jomon pottery suggest oni first appearing on the Japanese islands around 4000 BC, although this era appears to have been one of stagnation. On the Asian mainland, oni did however prosper in the remote regions of China, nurturing many of the cultural attributes which would come to fruitation in later millennia. At this point in time, and still today, oni in Chinese regions hold relatively peaceful relations with human neighbours, regardless of the nature of the particular oni association. This relation is also upheld from the human side - unlike other "pure" youkai, oni regardless of relative strength are considered too dangerous to be killed for food (just as well, oni flesh is inedible to humans). However, Chinese oni still have the lowest life expectancy of any population, due to competition with other breeds of highly fit Chinese youkai (Meiling's breed is one of these, however in the lower threat range).

While isolated records predate it, the oldest "scientific" description of an oni appears to have been made by Qibo, apothecary of Huang Di. During the uprising of Chi You, an unknown number of oni served as paid soldiers on the side of Huang Di, being deployed in battle under Nu Ba to counter similar supernatural creatures under Chi You.
The eventual victory of Huang Di saw the last major oni migration - as "spirits of wind and thunder" the great majority of the Chinese oni population migrated across the Eastern sea, leaving behind a war scarred nation with no means of paying its soldiers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:19:23 2010 No.4715071 File: 706 KB, 1800x1068, 9516fd73b9a609c78e1f2bd920881855.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I have chosen some artists. Now how do I steal their talent?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:22:23 2010 No.4715084 >>4715071 That? That's impossible, you know. They'll still have their talent no matter how good you get.

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Wed Mar 24 00:22:23 2010 No.4715085

Important to note, in 3000 BC the word "oni" does not yet exist, and will not exist for another 3500 years. The species has held various names depending on time and region, usually coined by humans. Oni do not have a distinct language, although a handful ancient have knowledge of paleolithic languages now extinct in human use.

Perhaps more about the history proper on the Japanese islands later, but for now, got to sleep. Got class in 4 hours. Goodnight, /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:22:23 2010 No.4715088 >>4715084 I was hoping it would be like Space Jam.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:24:23 2010 No.4715105 >>4715085 night - and thanks! it was most interesting - I'm going to dig out some oni data myself now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:24:23 2010 No.4715106 File: 113 KB, 640x510, told.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4715085 Akyu needs to take lessons from you.

Manly Wed Mar 24 00:24:23 2010 No.4715110

>>4715071
I don't think 'stealing' is what you should do but for now it's okay to copy their style until you develop your own.

Look at how they do details, mouths, noses, ears, eyes and study these features. Look at how they colour, etc. Just look hard at a variety of their stuff.

But I'm serious about doing studies of real people too so that you can make more dynamic poses and fluid movement.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:26:23 2010 No.4715126 >>4714865 talking of cliches - whats the major ones to be avoided? I've tried to avoid them as much as I can in the plot I'm working on - but I cant find a good alternative to 'MC has some form of amnesia and can't remember a large chunk of his past'

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:30:23 2010 No.4715167 >>4715126 Here's an alternative: Actually thinking of a character and having them be themselves instead of a generic blob of nothing whose past is used solely as a plot point, if that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:33:23 2010 No.4715186 Would a MC being a gay porn actor be cliche ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:34:23 2010 No.4715198 >>4715186 The best way to tell what's cliche and what isn't is to play/read many games/books. You should do that anyway if you're going to make one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 00:41:23 2010 No.4715247 >>4715198 the problem then become whats overused badly and whats used alot because it works.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 01:23:23 2010 No.4715516 >>4715247 Use your judgment. You aren't helpless.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 24 01:25:23 2010 No.4715531 >>4715516 true, ahh well fuck advice and opinions then, I'll just go my own way.

HelenXonpool !a0yHhBwvus Wed Mar 24 15:34:23 2010 No.4718656

Notable is that despite oni possessing an intellect roughly equal to an average human being, oni culture displays little originality outside its feral roots. The kanabo is the only widely recognised invention attributed to oni, appearing roughly 3000 BC on the Asian mainland in a form still familiar today. However, despite traces from this particular period, the weapon is rarely referenced in sources from the Asian mainland thereafter, excepting an isolated (an often questioned) account from 13th century Thailand. The disappearance may be linked to the "technology" of the kanabo migrating with its inventors, possibly linking the creation of the weapon to the superior metallurgy of artisans loyal to Chi You, encountered by oni serving as mercenaries under Huang Di. Notably, this would be the only instance in history where oni have adopted an intellectual resource disregarded by contemporary humans.
The Chi You uprising may categorically be grouped together with several other unrelated conflicts taking place on the Japanese islands since, forming the basis of the Japanese folklore phenomenon of a "great youkai war".

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