I'm 20. Not in college. I can't learn. I'll probably never get the chance to see college because of this. [spoiler] unless there are retard colleges[/spoiler] I feel like killing myself. ......Will I really end up in Gensokyo?

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Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:36:48 2010 No.4709793 [Reply] [Original]

I'm 20. Not in college. I can't learn. I'll probably never get the chance to see college because of this. unless there are retard colleges

I feel like killing myself.

......Will I really end up in Gensokyo?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:36:48 2010 No.4709795 >>4709793 sucks to be you

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:37:48 2010 No.4709796 balamb garden.

Necrobrotent Tue Mar 23 10:38:48 2010 No.4709799
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Hey I was in the same boat, Go to community college for something retarded like psychology or welding or Particle physics, maybe you'll figure out something then.

Otherwise see you in Balamb Garden, Zell.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:38:48 2010 No.4709800
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Yeah! Come on, just do it really quick, and you'll get to be with us! Forever! But if you get bored, you can go to sleep... But you can choose to wake up whenever you like!

Please, come be with us! We've been waiting so long...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:38:48 2010 No.4709801 There are colleges that accommodate learning disabled students.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:38:48 2010 No.4709804 Enjoy your wish for college, for you shall be awaking in Balamb Garden.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Tue Mar 23 10:39:48 2010 No.4709806 Yeah, you know this huge forest in Japan where people kill themselves? It's actually a massive portal to Gensokyo. It's analogous to the Haunted Woods that Alice and Marisa live in.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:40:48 2010 No.4709811 >>4709806 Actually, it goes to that forest right beside Balamb Garden.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:40:48 2010 No.4709812 I'm 20, in college, and I work at college. I help out disabled students, which can range from having broken bones or learning disabilities. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have a problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:40:48 2010 No.4709813 File: 65 KB, 472x577, 1266365141029.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4709801 like Penn State University?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:40:48 2010 No.4709814 >>4709806 Don't forget to loot as many corpses as you can before killing yourself! You get to take that shit with you from Aokigahara.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:41:48 2010 No.4709818 I don't need to go to work becose goverment pays me my living.

Thoughtless Celestial Tue Mar 23 10:41:48 2010 No.4709820

work out. if brain was all that mattered, no reality show would last more than a week.

be a sportsman, carry lugegges in airports etc, and use your imagination to invent something that will change the face of the world.

go for it anon!

P.S yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:43:48 2010 No.4709826 Don't worry. Tomorrow you'll wake up, and realize it was all just a very strange, sad dream. And then your real life will begin.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:44:48 2010 No.4709829 You can't learn? Explain further.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:45:48 2010 No.4709834 >>4709826 Am i weird if i hope that this will happen every time i go to sleep?

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Tue Mar 23 10:46:48 2010 No.4709839

>>4709820

Considering that the human body is basically built around one's brain, and that our brains are much, much larger in proportion to our bodies compared to most animals, yes our brain is the be-all and end-all of our existence.

Also, I used to know a lot of dumb niggas in my hood who figured they could get ahead by being all buff and strong and becoming an NBA superstar or some shit. They'd enjoy the fame for a bit, get popular on the school teams, then shorty gets hurts, can't run or jump or lift shit anymore, and his whole damn life is fucked because he didn't get a damn education.

You can't injure your brain doing sums. But you CAN injure your body doing sports. And it's hard to recover from them. I'm extremely cautious about weight lifting for that reason - I check my form, don't lift more than I can push up, I do my reps properly, all the basics. I'm painfully aware that once I fuck myself up, that's it for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:46:48 2010 No.4709840 >>4709834 No. It's pretty normal. Don't worry, I'm busy crafting a regimen of effortthreads that will inspire you to better your life.

>>	Necrobrotent Tue Mar 23 10:46:48 2010 No.4709842 >>4709840 OH BOY!

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:47:48 2010 No.4709845 >>4709839 I missed you Arc. Good advice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:49:48 2010 No.4709852 Best method: Get fit. Physical fitness increases your mental fortitude and will improve your patience and determination. Instead of using your fitness for profit, get a shitty job. This will motivate you to go to college. Save up, and go.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:50:48 2010 No.4709856

>>4709829

I just don't understand things. It really pisses me off, because it's been limiting me forever. I have/had no qualms about studying my ass off, but if I can't remember it or if I forget it in minutes, then it's pointless. Not that I haven't tried my entire life, but It's been fruitless to date.

Oh yeah and I'm pretty shit at math and can't do anything more than long dividing.

passed high school with blind luck + cheating and even then it was barely

Thoughtless Celestial Tue Mar 23 10:51:48 2010 No.4709859

>>4709839
I admit that going for the muscle route before you gave your all in the brain route might not be the best solution, but op case is different than some kids who want to play ball instead of solving math.

not only sport, i know a lot of people who work in jobs that don't require to much brain, like cleaning the streets (i meant literly, not cops) or babysitting for theyr naighbours, or just put up a nice site and cash in from the ads.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:51:48 2010 No.4709861

1. There actually are retard colleges, they're just not very nice since they're mostly for a combination of genuine assburgers and the really evil kind of ADHD kids.
2. Oh no you fucking don't. We aren't allowed to harvest your organs if it's a suicide.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Tue Mar 23 10:51:48 2010 No.4709863

>>4709856

>I just don't understand things.

That's how life is. You think you fell out from your mother's vagina knowing everything from the get-go - how to walk, how to clothe yourself, and eat without vomiting your food up half the time?

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:52:48 2010 No.4709864

>>4709856
Teach yourself basic math. Educate yourself on the basic concepts. Practice.

http://www.khanacademy.org/ is a great resource for this.

Try learning for its own sake rather than for a test or whatever, the knowledge will stick with you for a lot longer. You probably just had shitty teachers.

I recommend you don't just use this as an excuse to be a NEET, though. You should get a job as well. Yeah it'll be shit but it'll motivate you to get something better.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:52:48 2010 No.4709869 >>4709859 >derp ...woo hoo, there's one now...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:53:48 2010 No.4709872 >>4709861 What. Why the fuck not? I want to kill myself and have my organs used, why can I not do this???

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:54:48 2010 No.4709878 >>4709863 Considering we live in a deterministic universe.... yes, yes I was born knowing all of those things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:56:48 2010 No.4709886 >>4709872 Ethics bullshit.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Tue Mar 23 10:56:48 2010 No.4709888 >>4709878 I assume your parents didn't need to bathe, dress, feed, or speak around you, then. You just picked all these things up and hit the ground running, so to speak.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:57:48 2010 No.4709891 >>4709888 It was inevitable that I do so just like it was inevitable that I would type this reply. That's just the way the world works.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 10:57:48 2010 No.4709893

>>4709856
I was and am the same way and I know it's not because of shitty teachers since my friends from middle school learned just fine. It's just myself being an incapable retard. And as corny as it sounds I wish I worked harder in school. I'm going to be applying for math classes that aren't even college level at a community college today in an attempt to bring myself out of this wreck though. Oh well, at least I tested exempted out of English.

>>	Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Tue Mar 23 10:58:48 2010 No.4709895 >>4709891 >It was inevitable that I do so However...there are neglected children who never learn these things.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:00:48 2010 No.4709902
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>>4709891
If you spend your whole life waiting for things to happen it's inevitable you will die unsatisfied.

I guess you must have had a pretty pampered childhood, to have that kind of thought process that everything will be done for you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:01:48 2010 No.4709906 No one ends up in Gensokyo, it's a lie.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:01:48 2010 No.4709909 >>4709893 Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one. Anyway trying to teach myself things didn't work in the past, so you can slightly understand why I don't really see why that would help now anyway?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:03:48 2010 No.4709918 And for the record, I'm the op and I've only posted >>4709793 >>4709856 and >>4709909 don't get confused now

>>	Thoughtless Celestial Tue Mar 23 11:03:48 2010 No.4709919 >>4709869 leave me alone, anon. op think he is stupid, you really are one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:04:48 2010 No.4709927 File: 23 KB, 329x226, keinenice ass.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4709909 No, not really. It sounds like you're justifying the continuation of your current state. You need to drop that kind of thinking if you want to move past it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:04:48 2010 No.4709930 You probably have an L.D. Get diagnosed, major in "business," and just plan on skipping the "get drunk every night" part of majoring in "business." NEXT QUESTION

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:05:48 2010 No.4709931 File: 755 KB, 1100x1100, 7195557.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4709895 That's fate. You can't argue with it and whining about it is silly.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Tue Mar 23 11:06:48 2010 No.4709940

>>4709931

>fate

I hate to break it to you, but using fate and destiny as an excuse for your own personal failures isn't going to get you anywhere. While it is true that fate throws obstacles in your path, it's up to you to turn things around.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:07:48 2010 No.4709945

>>4709909
I'm doing it because it's something to show when applying for jobs. At least, if I have some basic classes done they might think "hey, this kid worked for shit." It's also a requirement for most college degrees anyway. Moreover, I'm done having a defeatist mindset. And I went through the same thoughts as you. We're just not getting anywhere with that, and you have to want to change it first before anything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:09:48 2010 No.4709959 >>4709940 What excuse? I'm just stating a fact: that there is no such thing as free will and everything is predetermined. It is impossible for "me" to affect anything.

Arcueid Brunestud !ARCIkc4cG6 Tue Mar 23 11:10:48 2010 No.4709967

>>4709959

>What excuse? I'm just stating a fact: that there is no such thing as free will and everything is predetermined. It is impossible for "me" to affect anything.

That does not mean you should just take things as they come instead of taking action.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:11:48 2010 No.4709972

>>4709931
In psychology we call this 'external attribution'. It's usually seen as a coping mechanism in people who have experienced emotional suffering; things people would normally consider to be their own fault get attributed to 'fate', 'luck', 'chance' and the like. Over time it generalizes to things people would normally consider to be their own doing, as well, and they tend to attribute their successes to 'fate', 'luck' and 'chance'.

It's a precursor to clinical depression; I'm not surprised to see it on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:13:48 2010 No.4709988 I went to college and graduated with a decent degree. I made no friends, however, and wish I could go back and try again. Don't assume that going to college will fix you up, son.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:15:48 2010 No.4709995 >>4709988 Yeah, this is true, as well. No single action will help you, you have to gradually change your mindset into one that doesn't harm you in the long-term.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:15:48 2010 No.4709999 >>4709972 >implying the individual is completely free to determine their future, in absence of any overwhelming social or economic influences

>>	Necrobrotent Tue Mar 23 11:16:48 2010 No.4710002 >>4709988 Just because you suck at friends doesn't mean other people will. They just need to find something they're good at that other people enjoy. Like psycobabble. Or Sun Tzu(bitches love the art of war)

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:16:48 2010 No.4710005 >>4709967 I agree. I do take action. I simply have no illusions that I had any input in the matter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:17:48 2010 No.4710009 >>4709999 >implying they aren't Unless you live in a care home.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:19:48 2010 No.4710016 So retard colleges are a bad idea?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:20:48 2010 No.4710021 >>4710016 College in general is a bad idea. Especially if you want to be a professor. Never think even for a minute that you want to be a professor.

Suigin !fKazami5bE Tue Mar 23 11:21:48 2010 No.4710025

>>4709793
ahhhhh

You're life does not suck and you're not a loser, my life is the one that sucks. My dad died of cancer, and my mom died while giving birth to me. My dad blamed me for it and liked to prove it by hitting me and telling me that only mother killers cry. I was placed in special education classes because without a tounge I was unable to speak. I was held back three times because the teacher lied about my grades, she did this so she could have rape me. She weighed over 500 pounds and sounded like a horse trying to eat a dead clown. The only reason I passed special-ed high school because the school would no longer keep me.

My weight rivals that of five average goon neckbeards (a person with a neckbeard), and my neckbeard looks like a bird nest mixed with shit and cheetos. My dad died and gave all of the money to the local church and the priest ran off with everything. I had to take a job at McDonald's as the "special" guy that works at those places, not because I'm retarded, but because the manager was the woman from my old school that raped me.

One day I walked into the living room of my 200 square foot apartment and saw a black cat get run over by a guy in a truck. I waddled outside in time to see him back up and crush another cat, I was walking the shoulder of the road and the guy hit me as he tried to drive away. Somebody called the police and the police gave me a citation for not keeping my cats on a leash, even though they were not my cats, and the guy in the truck successfully sued me for the damage to his truck.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:22:48 2010 No.4710029

>>4710016
Pretty much, yeah. They're meant for actual retards, not just people who find learning difficult.
>>4710021
College is a good idea if you want to work in a white-collar sector that isn't 'office bitch' and you don't want to scrape shit wages in manual work.

Suigin !fKazami5bE Tue Mar 23 11:22:53 2010 No.4710031 [DELETED]

My face is covered in deep rooted acne that can only be cured with surgery, or a very thick needle. Working as the special worker at McDonald's does not pay very well so I tried to needle the zits out, now I have zits and scars on my face. The rest of my body is hair and acne, I have to cover my bed in talcum powder so I can keep away the pain long enough to pass out from exhaustion.

I am fully deaf in one ear and I can only hear a high pitched whine in the other ear. I can only see the colors red, orange, and yellow. Having no tounge I have never tasted food. My nose is so full of snot and other assorted crap that I am also unable to smell.

The only time I ever interact with people outside of work and the forums is going down to the local game store where I buy used copies of 5 year old games because I only make minimum wage.

This account was given to me out of pity, and I am only able to access it at the library. I'm fairly sure nobody goes near me at the library because I have not been able to shower for the last three years of my life.

The only joy I have in life is pretending to be other people.

Are you trying to tell me YOUR life is worse than mine? Well fuck you and the elephant that trumpeted you in to this place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:23:48 2010 No.4710033 File: 99 KB, 600x600, china type.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4710025 >goon SA has copypastas?

>>	None !ANTISTatic Tue Mar 23 11:23:48 2010 No.4710034 >>4710029 You're a retard who refuses to go to a school for retards. Sounds stupid to me, might as well just kill yourself, loser.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:24:48 2010 No.4710039 Disregard college, learn japanese on your own. Everything else is useless. NEET for life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:25:48 2010 No.4710043 >>4710021 The first part of that is incorrect, the second is "meh"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:25:48 2010 No.4710045 File: 60 KB, 317x266, we were all having a good time.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4710034

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:25:48 2010 No.4710046 >>4710025 Where is this from?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:26:48 2010 No.4710048 >>4710033 Some. They're heavily frowned upon on most of the site.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:26:48 2010 No.4710052 >>4710009 >implying there's no such thing as social class >implying there's no such thing as a coercive state >implying that everyone is equally mentally and physically healthy and that this has no effect on someone's freedom of choice

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:27:48 2010 No.4710058 >>4710043 The second part is "hahaha you aren't ever going to get a job as a professor don't even try."

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:29:48 2010 No.4710063 >>4710052 Oh yes. The vagina excuse. So 19th-century, so old-world.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:29:48 2010 No.4710068

>>4710052
>implying there's no such thing as social class
So you're saying you can never surpass what you were at the point of birth? You can never move beyond your starting conditions?

Also, it is fairly easy to drop in social class, as well. Some people might be happier like that.

>implying there's no such thing as a coercive state
I'm not familiar with this concept, you'll have to explain.

>implying that everyone is equally mentally and physically healthy and that this has no effect on someone's freedom of choice

I did make a care home exception.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:32:48 2010 No.4710079 >>4710068 >coercive state He's from Nazi Germany. "SEIG!!!"

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>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:33:48 2010 No.4710083 >>4709959 Ever heard of quantum indeterminacy?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:35:48 2010 No.4710088 "Christopher Pooie"?

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Tue Mar 23 11:40:48 2010 No.4710106 >>4710080 Shouldn't the people with darker skin be towards the bottom, and not the top?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:45:48 2010 No.4710125 >>4710083 Yes. I'm not seeing how it is relevant.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:47:48 2010 No.4710131 >>4710106 They were trying to AVOID having that happen.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:51:48 2010 No.4710140 >>4710080 >unlikelihood is the same as impossibility Cool story bro.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 11:57:48 2010 No.4710171 File: 785 KB, 696x600, 1251720156324.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4709793 Get pumped. Sign up for the armed forces end another humans life, feel much better about yourself, laugh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 12:00:48 2010 No.4710185 >>4710125 In short, electrons in neurons in your head have quantum nature so your thoughts and therefore your will is not entirely deterministic and dependent from your previous states.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 12:01:48 2010 No.4710190 File: 34 KB, 389x257, 1264337318814.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4710185

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 12:02:48 2010 No.4710194 >>4710185 You forgot about the soul, dumbass. You can't just ignore the most important part of brain physiology.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 12:15:48 2010 No.4710250 >>4710194 That's a statistical thing, not a causal thing. An observation, not its explanation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 13:07:48 2010 No.4710481 >>4710025 >>4710031 I was actually wondering whether this was really true or not before I saw >implying Gold Accounts

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 13:11:48 2010 No.4710497 >>4709793 RMU is the uni for tards, they will pass anyone

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 13:14:48 2010 No.4710510 >>4709856 At least you graduated high school. I dropped out and am now in a similar situation to you. I'm absolutely dead set on if I attend college, I'll just fail and quit. Shit sucks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 13:15:48 2010 No.4710517 >>4710185 I have no idea what the fuck you just said. Anyway, many-worlds, you lack free will, deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 13:27:48 2010 No.4710568 >>4710517 > > >durr durr durr whining > >the world is not a coo-coo clock, even physics says so >durr wut hurr, durr durr durr whining

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 14:16:48 2010 No.4710826 op, tell your community college that you might have a learning disability, they will probably have people who can help you out

>>	None !Nipaa0mi0. Tue Mar 23 14:21:48 2010 No.4710867 >>4709793 Are you a loli with a weird hat? If not, then I'm afraid the answer is no.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 14:34:48 2010 No.4710968 >>4710568 Physics does not say so, idiot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 14:51:48 2010 No.4711073 >>4710968 Simply stating the negative without explanation isn't an argument, you're out of ammo. We win, you lose.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 14:54:48 2010 No.4711103 Oh, and regarding >>4710517 again, >I have no idea what the fuck you just said. Then do shut up, you insufferable faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:22:48 2010 No.4711248 >>4711073 I already explained. Many-worlds. The universe is actually purely determined by past states. It's just that the classical world we are seeing is not, in fact, the entire state. That's why your quantum-nature bullshit is bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:26:48 2010 No.4711279 >>4711248 >passing a passing scientific fancy off as if it was experimental fact. dear god.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:28:48 2010 No.4711300 >>4711279 It's the best theory, of course I treat it as fact.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:30:48 2010 No.4711327 >>4711300 It's not a theory. You can't even make an experiment with it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:30:48 2010 No.4711329

>>4711300
>it's the best theory

Why, because it happens to suit the argument you're having right now?
Because it's "aesthetic"?

This is the problem with science, not that there's anything wrong with science, but that every high school atheist thinks they are a bonafied scientist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:31:48 2010 No.4711331 >>4709863 I did, and also talked. Speaking of the world ending in 2320

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:32:48 2010 No.4711340 >>4711248 Unknowable hypotheticals and conjecture also don't make an argument of fact, even in philosophy, never mind empirical science. Maybe religion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:33:48 2010 No.4711349 >>4711327 I know that. It's the most logical explanation, regardless.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:35:48 2010 No.4711361

>>4711349
>why does the sun seem to go over the sky every day?
>well clearly my boy, the earth remains stationary, and the sun revolves around us
>how can you tell?
>well, there are no instruments today that would allow us to see that, but it's the most logical explanation so it must be right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:36:48 2010 No.4711367 >>4711361 Exactly. It's stupid to believe anything other than the most logical explanation until proven otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:37:48 2010 No.4711369 Join the military OP.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:38:48 2010 No.4711373 >>4711367 it's stupid to make any assumption, or base any argument on said assumption, until the facts are clear.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:38:48 2010 No.4711376

>>4711349
>>4711361
There's no "explanation" of anything involved here.
Oh, except this faggot is either
1) a genuine angsty fag or
2) a troll
...or maybe both. Who cares? He says he wants to kill himself, maybe he thinks his early demise is inevitable too. Yay.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:40:48 2010 No.4711390 File: 12 KB, 206x181, orbits my dick.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4711367 Ah, man, finally I get to post this in the correct context.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:43:48 2010 No.4711415 Join the airforce. After you get through basic training you'll never have to do any hard work again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:44:48 2010 No.4711422 >>4711373 I'm not well-versed in scientific history, but it seems like a good guess that this would have stonewalled it at quite a few points.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:45:48 2010 No.4711430 >>4709793 go to a community college, take there placement tests and take the classes that help you get into a university

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:47:48 2010 No.4711442 Sell drugs. The moneys good and you can get a chick who's desperate for blow to do anything.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:50:48 2010 No.4711464

>>4711373
The facts are clear, and the facts say many-worlds is the best guess we have for something that can't be proven at this time. Occam's Razor shoots down all the others.

Anyway, this troll got side-tracked, so I'd like you to explain to me what free will is and why you're even bothering to defend it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:54:48 2010 No.4711486

>>etc
>>4711464
>>etc
Troll confirmed. Fallacies abound, plus he's avoiding concretely addressing or expounding on anything, and isn't addressing all of the shit he's being presented with at all.
We're done.
For posterity/easymodo, if anyone is interested in a real treatment of the debate mocked ITT, such is available at the college level.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 15:54:48 2010 No.4711487 File: 162 KB, 600x600, 1263073784116.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] With enough willpower, anything is possible.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:00:48 2010 No.4711516

>>4711486
You want me to concretely address your points? Sorry, but I have no need to actually explain myself to anyone capable of using google or reading a book. It'd just be a poor paraphrasing of stuff I remember if I tried, like the rest of my posts ITT.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:04:48 2010 No.4711534 >>4711487 Okay, I'm going to become God.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:06:48 2010 No.4711545 File: 6 KB, 100x100, KybalionLogo.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4711534 Yeah, you and everyone else. You know how many people have already succeeded at that? Go look up the Onmyouji. Get unique.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:06:48 2010 No.4711547 >>4711534 Worked for Bern.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:07:48 2010 No.4711549 >>4711464 >many-worlds is the best guess >Occam's Razor We have 1. infinite worlds that don't affect us in any way lol 2. just this world Now which is the simpler version?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:09:48 2010 No.4711561 >>4711545 Then.. How about becoming stronger than God?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:12:48 2010 No.4711577 >>4711549 Bad argument. You should be asking which requires less laws. To make the math work properly (I'm not even going to pretend to understand this shit), a single earth needs new laws. That makes it less likely to be true.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:13:48 2010 No.4711589 >>4711577 So we're just left at solipsism, then. How does that work with determinism?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:14:48 2010 No.4711591 >>4711464 -> 4709940

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:17:48 2010 No.4711612 >>4711589 Lol I dunno. I don't know why you guys are bitching about free will not existing; you've lived your whole lives without it just fine. Deal with it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:19:48 2010 No.4711629 >>4709800 lol, that was the weirdest thing I've read in a while

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:21:48 2010 No.4711653 File: 104 KB, 700x650, kamina.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4711561 Seriously, man. Anything is possible. Anything. You don't even need the occult to gain spiritual power, though it helps.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Mar 23 16:25:48 2010 No.4711688 >>4711653 Cool /a/ pic, friend. I agree with your words, though.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:32:48 2010 No.4711745 >>4711591 >>4710005

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:35:48 2010 No.4711758 Join the military, dumbass. At least you'll get free college while you're there. Also, get into either the Navy or Air Force to maximize your chances of getting stationed in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:37:48 2010 No.4711773 The people still responding to the OP without reading any of the thread amuse me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:39:48 2010 No.4711788 >>4711653 Occult was just a teenage hobby of mine. Would be embarrassing to get back to it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:40:48 2010 No.4711792

>>4711653
Not ANYTHING. You can't violate physical laws. Even within them, many opportunities are closed off due to social status and upbringing. I'm not going to say being a NEET disqualifies you from public office, but it sure as hell isn't going to help.

Rather, you should say "ALMOST ANYTHING is possible!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:45:48 2010 No.4711808 ;(

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:47:48 2010 No.4711818 >>4711808 Why are you sad?

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:49:48 2010 No.4711826
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>>4711788
Once you get over how silly and cheesy it feels, it honestly can improve your life in many ways.

>>4711792
Physical laws don't hold up too well against infinite willpower. Neither do social norms and political stations. If you have the ability to do anything you wanted, why would you waste it on becoming something like the president when you can use it to send yourself to Gensokyo and become the queen there?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:50:48 2010 No.4711834 >>4709891 BADASS INTERNET NIHILIST COMING THROUGH

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 16:53:48 2010 No.4711857

>>4711826
While I approve of anything that makes you happy, I can't condone becoming insane for it. Good luck, regardless.

This seems like a good thread to mention that you should do volunteer work if you're a depressed, lonely NEET. It's good for you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:01:48 2010 No.4711905 File: 140 KB, 850x900, 8d0ee352af555cfdb5530b28d2b90c16.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4711857 It's inevitable to end up a little insane just from life. God forbid anyone treads into the zone of "wrong" insanity.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:03:48 2010 No.4711921 >>4711905 It's quite possible to live life without going insane. Just... don't think about some things.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:05:48 2010 No.4711926 File: 66 KB, 576x423, 1264701938639.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4711921 >thread full of intellectuals >get recommendation to not think

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:06:48 2010 No.4711932 >>4711857 > It's good for you. It's also the only way to get employed if you have a six year gap in your work experience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:06:48 2010 No.4711935 >>4711834 Nah, I'm good. Just want everyone to accept that they have no free will, that's all. It makes absolutely no difference to your life one way or the other except you get to avoid saying things like "quantum-nature."

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:08:48 2010 No.4711947 >>4711926 Sometimes not thinking about things can really help.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:08:48 2010 No.4711950 >>4711932 Yeah. Like I said, good for you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:09:48 2010 No.4711958 File: 87 KB, 600x500, bigger infinity.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4711935 >Just want everyone to accept that they have no free will, that's all Why would you want everyone to accept something which is untrue?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:10:48 2010 No.4711964 Anything is possible. If you find something that is impossible, than you simply must create a universe where such an act is possible. SIMPLE SHIT, FAGGOTS.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:11:48 2010 No.4711971
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>>4711947
Sometimes. But to really avoid being insane, you'd have to not think about the things that matter; Goals, aspirations, the paranormal, the unusual, the unexpected.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:11:48 2010 No.4711972 File: 24 KB, 210x168, problem eyes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4711958 Ever meet an evangelist?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:13:48 2010 No.4711986 File: 2.00 MB, 2067x2067, 11e0c648874db5847f3ff092a78a03a7.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Free will and destiny can exist at the same time.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:14:48 2010 No.4711990

>Randomass anon on /jp/: Anything is possible!
>Randomass NEET from /jp/ goes out to apply for 20 different jobs.
>Randomass NEET from /jp/ gets no calls back after 2 weeks. Still in his room 24/7 fapping to futa touhou doujins.

True story. Sometimes obstacles are too much to overcome only with willpower.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:15:48 2010 No.4712000 >>4711990 >Randomass NEET from /jp/ goes out to apply for 20 different jobs. >only 20 >gives up afterwards I found your problem.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:17:48 2010 No.4712015 >>4711990 Don't wait for calls. Keep looking.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:17:48 2010 No.4712019
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>>4711990
>NEET Anon is not out pursuing jobs, forcing interviews, seeking higher education, applying to volunteer programs, working on his appearance, working on his social skills, meeting new people that can help him, working out so as to be more useful on the job and more charismatic, ect.

Sometimes you need more than a smidgeon of willpower.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:19:48 2010 No.4712040

>>>4711971
Nobody should dwell on goals or aspirations. It's just stupid.. instead, think "I want to do this" and think of a path with small, CONCRETE steps you can accomplish toward that goal.

That's basic shit everyone has probably heard before, but it's definitely worth repeating.

Oh, and don't dwell on stuff you have no control over, either. If you want to find a way to have control over it, fine, dwell on that. But until you get that control, thinking about it is just as bad as fapping to futa doujins all day.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:23:48 2010 No.4712074

>>4712040
I think the best thing you can do is set up a list of your goals, and take some time to reflect at the end of every day what you did towards fulfilling them, and what you can do tomorrow. Good awareness of what you want to achieve and what needs to be done to achieve it is what separates someone who makes a life for themselves rather than just floating by and hoping for the best.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:24:48 2010 No.4712076

>>4712019
>NEET Anon is not out pursuing jobs
Tried.
>forcing interviews
Check.
>seeking higher education
Tried
>applying to volunteer programs
Check.
>working on his appearance
Don't need to.
>working on his social skills
Tried.
>meeting new people that can help him
Something I'll never do.
>working out so as to be more useful on the job and more charismatic, ect.
I've tried. Gave up.

Pretty difficult when you're apathetic.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:26:48 2010 No.4712096
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>>4712040
>>4712074
Here's something I can appreciate a little more. However, sometimes the thing you are after is not so concrete, or can change, or is personal and internal(I want to be happy/come to terms) rather than external(I want a good job).

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:28:48 2010 No.4712107 >>4712076 I guess you can sit around fapping to futa doujins and waiting for the economy to get better and then work on explaining the huge gap in employment history. Or you can just keep trying and not expect to succeed.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:29:48 2010 No.4712108
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>>4712076
>apathetic

Found your problem!

Apathy is the opposite of drive and willpower. You need to pull yourself out or find someone to help you. Don't try, do it and keep doing it regardless.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:32:48 2010 No.4712131 >>4712107 >waiting for the economy to get better Using the economy as an excuse isn't a very good thing to promote. You might as well blame bad luck; it's just as abstract and perfect for external attribution.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:36:48 2010 No.4712165 There are TONS of things you can volunteer for. Really. You can probably even find something you care about and stop being so apathetic.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:40:48 2010 No.4712196 File: 66 KB, 500x335, love being white.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >do difficult and/or unpleasant work, for free >implying I'm black

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:41:48 2010 No.4712201 >>4712196 The work experience looks good on your record. You want a job, don'tcha? Work for it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:42:48 2010 No.4712203 >>4709793 serious reply here OP. 1) Think of what you really enjoy doing, what would make you happy. 2) Check if it's legal where you live. 3) Move to where it's legal, or if impossible, rethink #1. 4) DO IT !

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:42:48 2010 No.4712206 >>4712196 There's lots of volunteer work that isn't difficult or unpleasant...

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:42:48 2010 No.4712208 File: 98 KB, 377x357, tewi thumbsdown.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4712196 >implying volunteer workers pick cotton and don't just fuck around organizing fundraisers

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:46:48 2010 No.4712229 >>4712206 >look for volunteer work openings >CARE HOMES ONLY >FINAL DESTINATION >decides to carry on being a NEET instead

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:46:48 2010 No.4712230 OP, you know English better than most college students. What the fuck are you talking about?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:48:48 2010 No.4712240 >>4712229 >/jp/ - Blog/General

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:49:48 2010 No.4712244 >>4712229 Well fuck. I'd love to help you but I cannot. My NEET drive has been more directed towards not sucking at art.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:52:48 2010 No.4712257 >>4710025 You're clearly not Suigin. I can see from the presence of capitalization and punctuation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:52:48 2010 No.4712258 File: 209 KB, 567x800, uncle splat.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4712229 I guess everyone else hit on the 'get volunteer placements in order to find paid work' idea first, huh? Where do you live?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 17:55:48 2010 No.4712267 >>4712258 UK.

>>	CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIN OH THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEEAAAAAL Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:02:48 2010 No.4712304 File: 162 KB, 412x480, SimonIamdissapoint.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This thread is an eyesore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:04:48 2010 No.4712309 >>4712304 That's what the hide thread button is for, champ.

>>	me Tue Mar 23 18:04:48 2010 No.4712312 ummm.if you're not in college, how did you learn hoe to write ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:05:48 2010 No.4712318 I keep scrolling past this thread and seeing the picture of Remilia crying. Every time I see it I feel really bad for her, but I don't want to hide the thread because I don't want to hide anything with Remi in it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:11:48 2010 No.4712346 File: 188 KB, 819x1500, yorihime.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4712318 Time to go beat remilia again

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:14:48 2010 No.4712362 Visiting Gensokyo is easy. Just learn how to lucid dream, I guess.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:17:48 2010 No.4712378 File: 116 KB, 750x600, tentacle.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4709793 >an hero

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:21:48 2010 No.4712407 I know you all think you are too "dumb" for college, but college can be different than regular school in a lot of ways. Also, if you have to memorize anything with notecards in a class then you shouldn't be taking that class.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:22:48 2010 No.4712417 >>4712318 This "make a random unrelated thread with Touhou picture" trend has to stop.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:22:48 2010 No.4712420 The physics discussion in this thread makes me want to puke. Yes, we get it, you all love to read popular science books (or worse, read tiny articles). Ughhhhhh

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:27:48 2010 No.4712452 >>4712420 You're welcome.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:37:48 2010 No.4712503 >>4712420 Would you rather people not know anything about science, or are you just asking them not to discuss it?

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:40:48 2010 No.4712522
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>>4712503
The closest thing to scientific thought in this thread was one anon bringing up the fact that Occam's Razor makes an infinite number of identical universes an unlikely theory.

Everything else is pure 'I read the first ten words of an article on quantum physics on wikipedia, and then posted on 4chan'

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:42:48 2010 No.4712539 >>4712522 Physics diploma scans please, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:46:48 2010 No.4712557 File: 91 KB, 250x274, patchery rage.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4712539 >I need a physics diploma to even talk about how something is unscientific for saying there are an infinite number of universes with no attempts at proof

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:48:48 2010 No.4712563 >>4712557 >proof He's probably a philosophy graduate, forget about it.

Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:48:48 2010 No.4712564

>>4712522
He's wrong. Occam's razor makes a single universe less likely because it requires collapse and a ton of rules for how that works. That's higher complexity than many-worlds, which just says "okay there are these rules, they say there are a bunch of universes, let's let them exist."

Yes, I read an article a year ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:49:48 2010 No.4712571 >>4712564 Except Occam's Razor isn't 'least rules', it's 'least baseless assumptions required'.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:52:48 2010 No.4712586 >>4712564 >>4712571 >What fits in best with available facts and possibilities, with the least needed assumptions Google says you're both right.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:56:48 2010 No.4712602 >>4712571 So, basically >whichever has the least possible openings to >implying implications

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 18:58:48 2010 No.4712624 Have some popular science articles http://lesswrong.com/lw/r5/the_quantum_physics_sequence/

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 19:34:48 2010 No.4713021 >>4712624 Oh wow. This guy really thinks he knows what he's talking about doesn't he?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 19:39:48 2010 No.4713082 >>4713021 Apparently. I've never seen anyone say he's wrong so he must be right. Have his fanfiction.net profile. http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2087198/EliezerYudkowsky

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 19:41:48 2010 No.4713113 >>4713082 I've just been informed that he has another http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2269863/Less_Wrong

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 19:41:48 2010 No.4713114 File: 204 KB, 509x380, genie derp.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4713082 >I've never seen anyone say he's wrong so he must be right.

>>	Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Tue Mar 23 19:45:48 2010 No.4713149 >>4713113 >Harry James Potter-Evans-Verres Bleargh

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 23 19:54:48 2010 No.4713231 >>4713114 That was a joke. I've done enough fact-checking to make sure he isn't spewing utter bullshit.

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