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Kratos can kill servants

>> No.4709387

Of course he can.

>> No.4709390

Scrooge McDuck can kill Kratos

>> No.4709391

Actually he has.

Pursues was almost Gilgamesh level with his 4 divine noble phantasms and S rank divinity.

>> No.4709392

No fucking doubt about it.

>> No.4709397

But can he kill Touhous?

>> No.4709414

But can he beat Airman?

>> No.4709419

>>4709397
Sure why not?

He'd need to bathe in the blood of nurarihyon and HAVE THE RAGE OF THE YOKAI DRIVE HIS BLADES, and maybe a few more metroid style powerups.

>> No.4709429

>>4709391

>Pursues was almost Gilgamesh level with his 4 divine noble phantasms

Yeah 4 is a bit WAY LOWER THAN HUNDREDBILLION.

>S rank

10/10, supertroll detected. I am raging, buttmad, frustrated et al.

>> No.4709451

>>4709429
Hey he's got to be at least heracles level and Zues seemed to like him more.

Also he knows how to use them all and such.

>> No.4709473

>>4709451
Nasuverse Perseus was a coward that almost pissed his pants while trying to hunt Medusa and barely did it with 5 fucking NPs.

>> No.4709500

>>4709473
I thought character material just said he was an overpowered spoiled brat.

was that even in character material or was that in strange fake?

>> No.4709503

>>4709500
You get slight extra info in HA.

>> No.4709509

Kratos's power depends a lot on his gear though. In the four games he's gotten some incredible powerful weapons like Gaunlet of Zeus and Blade of Olympus. Any of these weapons are capable of killing gods. If he has access to just one of them he can kill servants for sure.

>> No.4709521

>>4709451

I'm just offended by the Gilgamesh level and "S rank".

Above A rank is A+ rank, and you have to be more than half-god to be A+ rank (Gil is 2/3rds god, for reference).

Furthermore, Gilgamesh is unmatchable. The only person who can beat him is Shirou, and even then not if he's serious. (Avalon Saber too, but that's fucking haxxing the haxxor.)

>> No.4709523

>>4709503
but is rider a trustworthy source? She could be buttmad with the whole being murdered thing. Even if she says she's above it.

>> No.4709528

>>4709523
Told from Perseus' point of view, pants-pissing included.

>> No.4709529
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4709529

Kratos killed Euryale.

How does this make you feel /jp/?

>> No.4709541

>>4709521
>Implying there aren't a lot of characters in the nasuneverse that can beat him

>> No.4709544

>>4709521
gil doesn't embrace his divinity, thats a part of the rank as well.

And Pers has alot of things going for him being the hero behind 4 godly tools, 5 if you count medusa's head.

Besides gilgamesh all the greek mythology age of legends servants are pretty much the top dogs when it comes to servants

>> No.4709546

>>4709529
Raging because Euryale is explicitly immortal.

>> No.4709553

>>4709544
5 excluding Medusa's head. Harpe, that bag of holding he put Medusa's head in, flying sandals, invisibility helmet, Aegis.

>> No.4709557

>>4709544

>gil doesn't embrace his divinity, thats a part of the rank as well.

No, he's dropped down to B due to that impertinence. He'd BE A+ if he embraced his godhood.

>And Pers has alot of things going for him being the hero behind 4 godly tools, 5 if you count medusa's head.

IT'S STILL A LOT LESS THAN INFINITY.

NOT TO MENTION GILGAMESH HAS THEM ANYWAY.

>Besides gilgamesh all the greek mythology age of legends servants are pretty much the top dogs when it comes to servants

And obviously King Arthur. And Cuchulainn. Actually, the only really great Greek hero is Heracles, who got jobbed in F/SN.

>> No.4709560

But can he get a good game?

>> No.4709568
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>>4709557
>the only really great Greek hero is Heracles

>> No.4709573

>>4709568

They're cool, but unfortunately they're just not world-tier.

Oh, and if you include Alexander the Great, but he's Macedonian (a region of Greece, but was before the Greek city-states equated to "Greece").

>> No.4709580

>>4709573
Achilles was invincible, his body was completely invulnerable, aside from his heel

>> No.4709585

>>4709557
So what if Gil has NP spam? Kratos kills gods like it's nothing. Sure Gil is super powerful but he's not the end-all be-all of the power scale. Kratos would fuck his shit up with godweapons that are more poweful than all those mortal NPs that he has collected.

Sage because I know you are just trolling.

>> No.4709589

>>4709573
I wouldn't, and if you wanted to go by raw power sure hercules, but forgetting Ulysses and Jason etc is just wrong.

Also Phillip of mastodon should be lancer in the next game.

>> No.4709593

>>4709580

But Achilles was an emo faggot, so yeah.

WAHHH DON'T WANNA FIIIGHT

WAAAHH SOMEONE STOLE MY ARMOR

LOOK I KILLED HECTOR THE ONLY GOOD PERSON IN THIS FUCKING WAR AREN'T I A BADASS

>>4709589

Odysseus was epic enough, sure, but he wasn't superhuman like Heracles.
Jason was a raging cock throughout the entire legend.

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4709591

Who? A hero from fairy tales again?
Grow up already, kids.

>> No.4709605

>>4709593
Jason? more like HERCULES DO EVERYTHING

OH GOD WHY ARE YOU KILLING EVERYONE MEDEA

>> No.4709613

>>4709585

>So what if Gil has NP spam? Kratos kills gods like it's nothing.

So does Gil. Did you realize the gods were utterly terrified of him after he slew the Bull of Heaven? They had to bring down all of their godly smiting wrath on Enkidu because it wouldn't work on Gilgamesh.

>Sure Gil is super powerful but he's not the end-all be-all of the power scale.

Did you read Fate/Stay Night?

>Kratos would fuck his shit up with godweapons that are more poweful than all those mortal NPs that he has collected.

Except Gilgamesh already has all of those.

>> No.4709615

There is nothing dumber than having a powerlevel shitstorm between 2 completely different universes.

You guys are complete retards.

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>>4709615

APPARENTLY YOU ARE UNFAMILIAR WITH TYPE MOON OR MAYBE JUST NEW TO /jp/

P.S. SHIKI CAN KILL KRATOS

>> No.4709631

>>4709613
>Did you read Fate/Stay Night?

Gilgamesh is not all that powerful, there are a lot of characters in Type-Moon that can beat him, and they are not even Gods

>> No.4709640
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>>4709631

It depends if it's LOL WOMEN AND CHILDREN Gilgamesh or serious, buckled-down I'LL SHOW YOU MY NOBLE PHANTASM IF YOU SHOW ME YOUR NOBLE PHANTASM Gilgamesh.

For the former, yes, a lot would be able to take advantage of him and beat him. He'd make dumbass mistakes or ridiculous self-handicapping, such as not using Ea or only firing a handful of Noble Phantasms at a time, or not even wearing his armor.

For the latter, there's incredibly few who can. Offhand, I can think of any Sorcerers/Aristoteles/Ether Liners etc. hax classes. No Servant can beat him but Avalon-equipped Saber, Dead Apostle Ancestors (excluding aforementioned haxclasses) would likely be wiped away easily as well.

>> No.4709642

>>4709631
Gilgamesh only dies because Nasu overpowered him too much so he has to get rid of him somehow to further the story. If Gilgamesh actually cared ever, he would destroy the cast. He's on par with Arcueid.

>> No.4709645

>>4709640
Even in that SUPER SERIOUS mode, you seriously overestimate him, cause he does not actually get MORE durable.
Gil of old days during his legend and Servant Gil now in Human body are different.
Even with absolute firepower, he is still not the top dog.

>> No.4709646

>>4709642
That's just you spouting silly bullshit really, but whatever.
He is not unkillable regardless of attitude.

>> No.4709649
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>>4709645

You underestimate his FAAABULOUS magical armor.

Remember in the Fate route, he takes a full on physical barrage from Saber, only ever blocking his head (with his gauntlet).
Pretty much anyone but Heracles would would be utterly slain by an unprotected storm of cuts from Excalibur, armor or no.

Note that he didn't have the damn thing on when Shirou took him out in UBW. His arm would've been just fine when he pulled out Ea if he did.

>> No.4709653

>>4709646
I'm pretty sure all of his deaths were due to him either being an idiot and not taking anyone seriously, or simply being put out to further the story. It's pretty god damn obvious Gilgamesh could kill Sakura, but what would that do to the story? There is no way he could have ever survived.

He was only playing around for the most part in Fate/Stay Night, in Fate/Zero he's a bit more serious and only loses because of his master.

>> No.4709655

>>4709649
That was also a Saber nowhere near fucking top form with the sword not unsheathed.
And the fact that he was pressured as such in the first place is a more serious problem than wondering if the armor would let him pull out Ea.

>> No.4709663

>>4709653
Regardless of what CAUSES his death, that does not mean he is unkillable otherwise.
Technically, serious Gil or not, the damage he did to Sakura is fucking ridiculous and almost every other fucking being would assume 'it is over'. And the Shadow only needs grab a Servant once.

>> No.4709667

>>4709655

>That was also a Saber nowhere near fucking top form with the sword not unsheathed.

Invisible Air does not reduce Excalibur's killing power.

She only had the suppressed abilities from being under Shirou, if I remember correctly. Lowered STR, but the point is that any decisive blow from a heroic spirit is incredibly lethal and he resisted god knows how many by pure magical energy.

>And the fact that he was pressured as such in the first place is a more serious problem than wondering if the armor would let him pull out Ea.

THAT WAS BECAUSE HE WAS STUPID
He could've just kept firing while he was grabbing Ea. He can open 32 gates simultaneously, at least. Make one Ea, the rest distractions.

>> No.4709669

>>4709653

>He was only playing around for the most part in Fate/Stay Night, in Fate/Zero he's a bit more serious and only loses because of his master.

But... but... but... Gilgamesh WINS Fate/Zero...

>> No.4709671

His Fleece can block anything.

>> No.4709673

>>4709671

Not attacks from behind.

The Gate can open from any direction.

>> No.4709675

>>4709669
Well not really. The Grail was destroyed and corrupted.
>>4709663
Well of course he can be killed, that's pretty obvious. I'm just saying he's the most powerful servant, but his ego and plot luck are extreme hurdles that he can't jump over.

>> No.4709678

>>4709675
He has the greatest Firepower and the advantage against each Servant, yes.
People just stupidly make the jump 'Gil would prevail ALWAYS no matter what if serious'.

>> No.4709685

I think we're forgetting something I know I was.

ANY SERVANT CAN BE MADE H4X DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY WERE IN LEGEND OR NOT!

Jack the ripper? Make him a girl and make his knives made from the spear of destiny also make whitechapel some kind of reality marble or something SUDDENLY H4X Also VAGINA

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>>4709678

You can't deny he has a load of advantages being able to fire hundreds of supersonic high-explosive magic missiles while launching miniature nuclear waves and chaining slippery foes to immobility.

>> No.4709695

>>4709685

>also make whitechapel some kind of reality marble

But Jack sends his messages "From hell"

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>>4709695
Forgive me, Its been awhile since I've read anything on the ripper, Just call it Saucy Jacky or something everyone will eat that shit up.

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4709720

>>4709589
>Mastodon

>> No.4709731

>>4709720
MACEDON

gosh bro

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