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>> No.4698451

>implying that /jp/ has an income

haha oh wow

>> No.4698454

I don't think /jp/ is the right place to post this since we're all leeches on society who don't even have an excuse to be leeches.

>> No.4698459

>Implying I have an income
>Implying that, were I to have an income, taking insurance I no longer have to pay for from a private company and the taxes I already paid to Social Security, I am not still at least making even

>> No.4698463

but i live in japan

>> No.4698464

>>4698449
You are now aware that ~7% of my income has always went towards a socialised health care system and my well-being was increased thanks to that, Amerifag.

>> No.4698465

>>4698451
>>4698454
And now you'll never bother getting a job at all.

>> No.4698469

my country has done that for a LONG time, you americans are just unhelpful bastards

>> No.4698470

Free healthcare, woo hoo

>> No.4698472

>>4698449
Isn't it nice that you Americans will finally start contributing to society, like the rest of the civilized world?

>> No.4698475

It's not socialized, it's now SUPER CAPITALIST. Since buying health insurance is now MANDATORY AND ENFORCED BY FINE the insurance market will be overcrowded with new startups!

>> No.4698477

I don't have an income and I'm still on my mom's plan. Feels good man.

>> No.4698482

I live the UK. My taxes already go towards that.
But I don't earn enough to get taxed anyway.

>> No.4698483

>>4698472
American culture DOES contribute to the world.

>> No.4698484

How nice, does this mean the US is finally becoming a developed country?

>> No.4698486

I don't live in a country with a nigger for a president so no my income will not go to healthcare, this is /jp/ no one has income to go to healthcare anyway

>> No.4698488

>>4698483
In what way? Destabilization and creating new threats that were never there before?

>> No.4698491

>>4698483
With what? It's economic crisis or its McDonalds and Coca Cola?

>> No.4698493

>>4698483
Americans don't have a culture, silly.

>> No.4698497

>>4698488
Do you not know what culture means? I mean movies and music and such.

>> No.4698499

You are now aware that--

>>>/new/

>> No.4698504

>>4698497
uninspired commercial and usually shitty movied and bad music?

>> No.4698511

You are now aware that it still has to pass through Senate.

Republifags' knowledge of legislative process, not so good.

>> No.4698512

>>4698497
>movies
>music
These pathetic excuses of movies and music you have are called SUB-culture, because they are for SUB-humans.

>> No.4698515

>>4698484
No, it's becoming even more of a police state.

>> No.4698518
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4698518

>Implying I am american
>Implying I care about your income

>> No.4698522
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>> No.4698524

>>4698511
It has already passed through senate.

You are fucked, Americans. No matter how much or how little money you make, you're going to be screwed over in some way

>> No.4698527

>>4698472

Every country in the world (other than America) should be cheering for this bill, because now the world's best doctors will be leaving American to go back to their home countries.

>> No.4698528

>>4698449
Welcome to Germany.

>> No.4698532

TAXES FUCKING TAXES

I WISH TO LIVE IN A NATION WITHOUT ROADS OR SOCIAL SERVICES

TRULY THAT IS MY DREAM

>> No.4698543

>>4698522
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0OzxvClwoU
That guy sound so awesome in Auto-Tune.

>> No.4698544

ITT: People deluded by big business cry like bawson because they're paying 7.9% taxes on their income instead of paying a much higher percentage to insurance companies for the same coverage.

Seriously, you guys. You'd look at something on a 'buy one, get two for $5' deal in a store, and buy two for $5 even though they're $1 each.

>> No.4698546

You know, you should really be mad that this is basically a ginormous handout to big insurance companies. But that's not as easy for Fox News to jam down your throat.

>> No.4698551

in during americans think is the end of the world and communism has won

>> No.4698552

>>4698544
>paying a much higher percentage to insurance companies for the same coverage.
You've never had a job with insurance benefits, have you?

>> No.4698553

So let me see if I understand this right.

Those that can't afford health care still won't be getting any?
Those that can afford health care (with afford meaning "have enough money to pay for it before all other expenses") but don't want to are forced to pay for it or otherwise pay fines to the IRS?

How does this help anybody aside from insurance companies?

>> No.4698556

only 7.9%, fuck... you americans are lucky

>> No.4698557

>>4698552
You do realize the company takes the cost of insurance benefits out of your salary before you receive it?

>> No.4698558

>>4698553
itt babies realizing insurances own governemnt

>> No.4698560

It's just astounding how many people don't even fucking know what the bill does

-Insurance companies cannot deny you coverage based on pre-existing conditions
-Companies will be coerced and encouraged to provide health care to more employees
-It will be mandatory for most able citizens to buy health insurance (from the established companies, not the government, there is no public option) or else they will be fined

>> No.4698563

I've reported this thread. Guess the maid must be busy fapping.

>> No.4698567

>>4698563
She is shlicking~♥

>> No.4698569

>>4698557
You do realize you're a communist don't you?

>> No.4698570

>>4698553
>So let me see if I understand this right.


you don't

>> No.4698571

>>4698563
Probably still reading that awesome thread about pantyhose

It really was a pretty awesome thread

>> No.4698572

I liked this thread more when KoG made it and dumped Cirno

>> No.4698573

>>4698560
So it's essentially taking the "OH NOES MILLIONS ARE UNINSURED" problem and 'fixing' it by ordering everyone to buy health care.

Yeah, there will be subsidies, but how much, for how many people, what will the income:subsidy rate be, and what will happen when those subsidies run dry?

>> No.4698574

>>4698552
You've never thought about what would happen if you got the money your employer pays for your insurance directly, have you?

>> No.4698577
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>>4698563
I don't know about meido-san, but I'm fapping over the delicious rage while crying that the last capitalist country in the world has fallen.

>> No.4698578

>>4698522
Get out, Shii devs.

>> No.4698579

>>4698524

Our government already screws us six ways to Sunday, what's a bit more? Ugh...

The worst part about this bill is that it really does nothing to fix the real problems with American health care, which is the fucking psychotic billing system. Imagine a hotel visit or car repair where you don't get billed for weeks after the fact and you have no idea what the bill is going to be until statements start coming in and you have an idea of what a trip to the hospital is like in the US.

Simply requiring people to have the same insurance that got us into this mess will do nothing to fix it.

>> No.4698581

ITT HERP DERP THE DEMS LIKE IT SO IT MUST BE BAD and THE REPUBS HATE IT SO IT MUST BE GOOD

I hate this country, but sadly, it's still the best in the world.

>> No.4698582

>>4698560
So we're just trusting insurance companies not to fuck over the population. Great idea

>> No.4698583

>>4698573
If you're under a certain income bracket it won't be mandatory and you won't be fined. It should also be cheaper and easier for the average person to purchase health insurance because they can no longer be denied coverage. In theory, the insurance companies should be insuring more customers for less money (making it an even break, yeah right)

>> No.4698588

No matter what Obama changes, Americunty will not be able to create an insurance system for everyone, even homeless bums.

You should pay some respect to the Germans.
Even though they got pwnd in WW2, they still managed to create a better health insurance system than the almighty citizens of America.

>> No.4698589

>>4698577
hahahahhaahhahaha

By suppressing the speech of manifold corporations, both for-profit and non-profit, the Government prevents their voices and viewpoints from reaching the public and advising voters on which persons or entities are hostile to their interests.

>> No.4698592
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>>4698582
THAT'S CAPITALISM!

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>>4698581
>America is the best country in the world
This kind of nihilism must stop here and now.

>> No.4698595

>>4698522
>He thinks socialism = communism
>laughingintelligencia.jpg

>> No.4698602

>>4698595
Not even that, he thinks welfare = socialism.

lrn 2 modern liberalism, socialism goes much further than just welfare.

>> No.4698603

>>4698595
Welcome to America.

>> No.4698604

>>4698583
But how does that even help the health care problems the US has at all?

>> No.4698605

>>4698581
If EITHER PARTY likes it, it must be bad. Both parties fucking suck.

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>>4698581
>implying Japan isn't the best country in the world.

>> No.4698612

>>4698604
>implying the government does anything for the good of the people
Business, dear boy, business. You peasants can't lobby worth shit by comparison.

>> No.4698626

>>4698604
The people who don't have insurance, have insurance? It's similar to subprime lending, that's a fucking horrible example actually, but it is

The insurance companies take a smaller profit margin per person and in turn are guaranteed more customers by the goverment

>> No.4698630

>>4698612
>You peasants can't lobby worth shit by comparison.
The anti-abortion lobby is pro-business?

>> No.4698635

Another thing you should realize, a big insurance handout is an okay thing for our economy right now too. Insurance companies don't blow every penny they bring in on limos and gold covered chocolate sundaes, they actually invest some of it back into the nation's businesses as well.

>> No.4698637

>>4698626
But forcing people to buy health care insurance doesn't do shit. It's like deciding that the best way to lower divorce rates is to make it illegal to get a divorce. Yeah, it'll do it, but it won't solve anything.

Plus, it's cheaper for the poor to not buy expensive insurance and just pay the 2% fine.

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>> No.4698647

>>4698626

>The people who don't have insurance, have insurance?

not entirely true. this is not universal health care.

those that can't afford it still don't get any.

those that can and choose not to are forced to get it.

>> No.4698650

>How does this help anybody aside from insurance companies?

It doesn't help insurance companies at all. This bill actually gives the government more power to regulate the privatized health care system.

>> No.4698659

>>4698650
Stop trying to force logic into this discussion, this place is for fear-mongering and baseless anger.

>> No.4698664

>>4698650
Yeah, by forcing me to pay my fucking money to them.

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>>4698664

>> No.4698687
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>>4698679

>> No.4698689
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>>4698679
Nope, just surprised a bit that this thread is that long.

Similar threads like diaperfags don't go over 100 posts (at least whenever I come around)

>> No.4698697

Only in America would they think something like this means the world is ending and their nation is falling apart and forever broken. Then again, this is the same nation that is terrified to their very core because of a few terrorists, so I guess it makes sense.

>> No.4698698

So basically, healthy, responsible citizens with no need for health care are getting screwed over for the sake of cigarette smoking, reckless driving retards who were rejected coverage before?

yes, yes, I know, there are some people who were born with defects that shouldn't be rejected. But to fuck over everybody? for >$5000 a year (for single individuals without family)? This is retarded.

>> No.4698710

>>4698697
But it isn't UHC. It's just us spending more money for something we didn't have or need to begin with.

>> No.4698711

>>4698697

>few terrorists

>millions of people in the Middle East

hope you're not from a European country that is welcoming Muslims with open arms.

>> No.4698713

>>4698689
Very very few people are interested in diapers. Millions of people are interested in politics, especially American politics, even some foreigners follow our shit.

>> No.4698717

>>4698664
I don't give a fuck if you have to pay to the government. SERVES YOU AMERICAN LOSERS RIGHT.

>> No.4698720

>>4698697
If you're surprised it's probably because you didn't realize that Americans are huge fucking pussies. They baww and baww and baww all day and night while everyone else in the world just gets on with it and gets shit done.

Well, by everyone else, I exclude Venezuela and Israel, which bawww just as much.

>> No.4698724

>>4698698
Now you guys will feel the pain of us europeans. Enjoy paying for dying people even though you never go to a doctor yourself... ;_;

>> No.4698726

>>4698711
This post is what Americans really believe.

>> No.4698728

>>4698698
>So basically, healthy, responsible citizens with no need for health care

if they don't have health insurance already then they deserve to fucking die horribly

>> No.4698730

Why didn't the goverment make a universal health system in the first place instead of letting private companies?

>> No.4698732

>>4698711
>everyone in the middle east is a terrorist
Everyone in the United States is a Marine by that logic.

>> No.4698737

>>4698730
Because Republicans and America's fucktarded system of government that gives the minority party the ability to completely fuck shit up, usually on the grounds of 'we didn't think of it first'.

>> No.4698739

>>4698724
Maybe you should go live in a third world nation if you dislike it so much.

>> No.4698740

>>4698732
No.

The middle east is closer to the Agents in The Matrix.

Walking down the street you see normal people, but at any minute they can turn into a Terrorist on your ass.

>> No.4698741

>>4698730
You are an idiot. Do you even know what the purpose of the bill is? It's a simple tax grab with a gimmick title.

>> No.4698742

>>4698724
>Enjoy paying for dying people even though you never go to a doctor yourself
vs
>Enjoy dying in the hospital parking lot because you can't pay to go to hospital yourself

>> No.4698745

>>4698742
The latter is a far nicer prospect. It's a situation that's so unlikely to arise, it's not even worth considering.

Who gives a fuck if it happens to somebody else, I don't want to spend my money keeping worthless poorfags alive.

>> No.4698747

>>4698711
Do you guys really fear us so much?
I'm from the middle east and you can be sure I don't want to kill you or anything.
It's the same for most people, they just want to live a normal life.
Myself, I'm happy playing eroge all day.

>> No.4698752

>>4698741
since I'm not american, my question was literal, why was the private system allowed to take everything instead of the public govermentin the first place?

>> No.4698753

>>4698747
WHY DO YOU HATE FREEDOM

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>>4698745
>I'd rather die than pay a slight tax increase
Fucking Americans, huh.

>> No.4698758

>>4698752
Bribes, people with hidden agendas in government and people who are too stupid to realise they're being manipulated in government.

>> No.4698760

>>4698758
thanks

>> No.4698762

Oh, look, an /int/ thread. Saged, hidden, reported, called the cops.

>> No.4698765

>>4698740
>implying marines can't wear plain clothes and blend in if necessary

>> No.4698771

>>4698754
I think you're missing the point here.

I can easily afford health insurance for myself, so the latter situation would never arise, especially now they're getting banned from stopping your cover if you get ill.

Because of this, I don't see the reason in paying for fucking worthless scum's healthcare.

>> No.4698773

>>4698762
It's not an /int/ thread, it's a /new/ thread.

/int/ - HURRRR MY COUNTRY IS BETTER THAN URS AND MY ANCESTORS HAVE BIGGER PENISES THAN URS

/new/ - HURR LIBERAL NIGGER FEMINIST WHITE TRASH RUINING EVERYTHING HURR COMMUNISM

>> No.4698774

>>4698765
Can Marines turn into a giant army of identical looking sandniggers?

>> No.4698782

>>4698713
>even some foreigners follow our shit.

yeah just reading this thread makes me so happy they do that.

>> No.4698784

Foreigners are just laughing at you guys. You've actually managed to make a worse system than Britain's NHS, which is a massive achievement.

>> No.4698785

>>4698747

i think the general belief here in America is that if you aren't a Muslim and step onto Middle East soil, you will be captured and have your head cut off while being filmed.

>> No.4698789

>>4698449
But it already does, except not 7.9 since I live in Denmark were we already have far superior healthcare.
Also reported

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>thread full of hypocritic, greedy, self-righteous, conspiracy-theoretic bawwwww

Sure is America in here.

>> No.4698798

>>4698785
It happened to some people.

>> No.4698801

>>4698754

I'd rather die than force other people to keep me alive. Of course, this place is full of selfish NEET faggots, so I can see why they don't mind leeching off others.

>> No.4698811

>>4698789

I'm jealous of you now. Denmark is a nice place to live.

>> No.4698812

>>4698785
It's the truth though.

Should just withdraw troops from the middle east and just nuke the whole place, would be an improvement. No unappreciative sand niggers trying to fuck our shit up.

>> No.4698813

>>4698798
it always happens in wars

>> No.4698814

>>4698774
They only look identical to you.

Personally, from what I've seen of America in media and internet in general, I'm more afraid of you guys since I'm an arab.
I mean, from what I saw, it looks like all of America is full of rednecks who all fucking carry a weapon everywhere and who would kill me without a second thought while saying something like THIS IS FOR OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.

It's called stereotyping, and you are an idiot if you fall for it.

>> No.4698817

>>4698782

must be all those American movies and TV they watch that makes them experts. Just like anime and VN's have made me an expert on japan.

>> No.4698822

>>4698814
You deserve it though. You should be kissing America's feet for what we've done for you. You wouldn't even have a computer and the internet if we hadn't dragged your sorry asses out of the middle ages and into the 21st century. Just a shame so many of your butthurt brothers insist on trying to stay in the middle ages.

>> No.4698826

>>4698449
Yeah I pay something called tax.

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>your income

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We already did this thread, check out the various archives.
Also http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20000846-503544.html

>> No.4698841

>>4698822
Shouldn't it be the other way around? America wouldn't even exist without the oil provided.

>> No.4698845

>>4698841
Haha oh fucking wow, you actually think you provided oil, and we didn't just buttfuck you and steal it?

Get back to your mud hut.

>> No.4698854

saaaaaaage

to the faggot currently arguing: stop giving other people an even worse impression of America

>> No.4698855

>>4698822
Fucking mongols. Arabs would be so much better off if it weren't for them.

>> No.4698863

>>4698822
Most of my "brothers" are too busy fapping to the newest Hollywood blockbuster movie, playing the newest PES game and just taking it easy in general.
They aren't different from you, most people just want to live a normal life.
Of course there are some guys who use war and hatred for their business, but you can see it in every sides.

Seriously are you guys so completely brainwashed or something?

>> No.4698871

>>4698863
see see this is what I meant by American culture this is what I meant

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>>4698854
>Implying I'm actually an American, and not just an unoriginal, obvious troll

>> No.4698883

>>4698863
You're the one who is brainwashed. Fucking sandniggers trying to make us let down our guard by pretending to be civilized

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>>4698875
Troll face.

>> No.4698886

>>4698875

obviously

that doesn't mean you're not making other people hate america even more

>> No.4698896

>>4698886
Everyone hates America so much that the country cannot possibly be hated any more.

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/jp/ - International Right-Wing Extremism / General

Staff, if you don't buy into the idea of topical boards and just want to run a no-rules, racist, internet-whackjob, anti-american shock site, shut down the topical boards outright. Just shut 'em down. Soup aside, you have to have seen these threads by now, so make up your damn minds.

>> No.4698930

>>4698909
There's no guarantee of them seeing shit unless you report it in the irc channel. I'm not going to do it because I'm enjoying this thread, so run along.

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>>4698909
>not wanting to live in a communist state
>Right-Wing Extremism

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