FSN General Thread

[Anonymous No.]

Hey there, just playin through FSN for the first time, but I accidently a spoiler and found out Shiro is made of swords

Can someone PLEASE tell me this how this works, I mean it explains that bad end I got when he somehow managed to impale himself on something at school but it still confuses the hell outta me.

[Anonymous No.]

His body is literally composed of Vector knives.

[Anonymous No.]

He is the bone of his sword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695708

Vector knives?

[Anonymous No.]

He's only made of sword in Heaven's Feel.

I'm not explaining why, I'm too drunk to use spoiler tags right now.

[Anonymous No.]

Actually, it's more of a figurative than literal made out of swords.

Subconsciously, he is represented by 'swords'. He has a latent power (technically everyone does, it's just incredibly rare to be able to tap into it like him) to generate this, as such generating swords. When he's severely damaged, like it happens once in that bad end and again later in the Fate route, he gets an image of interlinking blades beneath his flesh (stabbing out as it were in the bad end).

[Anonymous No.]

It makes no sense, therefore it's shit. "Play" something superior like "Suck my dick or die".

[Anonymous No.]

Also that's not really a spoiler but I'm sure people are going to be spoiling you now that you made this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695717
In all ends of Heaven's Feel, he literally turns gets stabbed to death slowly as his body turns into swords. In all other routes he thinks of swords at certain points, as he's a sword otaku.

[Anonymous No.]

Not literally made of swords, but he's a factory designed only to make swords.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695724

Realspoilerhere
But that's Archer's unsealed arm making the swords, not Shirou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695718

I have no problems at all with spoilers, I've yet to have anything ruined for me by them. By the way, I just got to Valentines Day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695732
No Shirou, you are the Archer.

And then Shirou was a sword.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695738

>And then Shirou was an unlimited blade works

[Anonymous No.]

Shirou's body is a magic circuit dedicated to the production of swords.

So if he loses control over the ability, his body literally starts making swords inside itself. See: End of Heaven's Feel, where his entire body starts becoming swords.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695728
>>4695717
>>4695738

So that explains why Archer mostly uses swords. I wonder if it would've been better for him to have been summoned as a Saber. And also, how exactly did Rin get him anyway, I know it was a bit accidental, but was it ever explained?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695717
>>4695749

It's pretty cool being able to imagine swords into existence, but that is one hell of a price to pay

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695753

Shirou doesn't have the qualifications to be a Saber. He's not good with swords himself. He's a maker, not a wielder.

And Rin summoned him because Shirou always kept the pendant that Rin left with him, and she used that as the catalyst. So he was the only Servant she could summon- she had something connected to him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695753

>So that explains why Archer mostly uses swords. I wonder if it would've been better for him to have been summoned as a Saber.

His STR is too low. Sabers have to have B rank or higher, Archer's STR is D.

>And also, how exactly did Rin get him anyway, I know it was a bit accidental, but was it ever explained?

Her pendant operated as a catalyst. Archer held onto it his entire life.

>>4695749

Again, that was ARCHER'S ARM doing that, not Shirou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695753
Rin getting him wasn't accidental at all, it was because Shirou always held that pendant she used to heal him, even as Archer. Rin summoned him before she got rid of the pendant, so it acted as a catalyst. She could only ever summon Archer in that war no matter what, same with Ilya and Berserker.

Him not being summonable as a Saber is almost entirely due to the Independant Action h4x required during Unlimited Blade Works.

[Anonymous No.]

SAkura is being raped by shinji
Ilya is Shirou's sister
Gilgamesh kills llya in UBW

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695758

Well, the thing is, they're not actually "in existence". That's the domain of the First Sorcery.
He just creates a very, very clever illusion. It vanishes as soon as something happens to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695785

What are you talking about? Shirou dies in HF.

It's spring again.

[Anonymous No.]

Archer's saves the say at the end of UBW
Shirou receives a puppet body and doesn't die in HF

[Anonymous No.]

Rin and Sakura are sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695781
>He just creates a very, very clever illusion. It vanishes as soon as something happens to it.
so he fools reality itself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695797

Exactly.

You later learn that Reality IS NOT AMUSED.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695797
When he's making swords outside of his Reality Marble, he's actually just projecting his Reality Marble into a small area around his hand. All the swords already exist inside Unlimited Blade Works, so he doesn't actually have to create anything.

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>>4695781

The illusion was good enough to slice off Berserker's arm

>>4695779

>SAkura is being raped by shinji

Didn't know that, makes me that much happier that the bastard died

>Ilya is Shirou's sister

Found this out too, explained why she always called him Oni-chan, although it's weird that she seems to want his head in a jar or some weird shit initially.

>Gilgamesh kills llya in UBW

Makes me hate that glorious golden bastard even more

[Anonymous No.]

Ilya is a 18 year old homunculis
fate stay night sucks
Saber dies at the start of HF

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695807
I thought Ilya was actually 28, not 18?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695806

>The illusion was good enough to slice off Berserker's arm

IT'LL GROW BACK

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695800

Does reality rape him or something lol

Also, I want F/HA to be translated completely eventually cause I'm intrigued with this person.

[Anonymous No.]

oh look, another powerlevels thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695814

No, she's 18. Only a few months older than Shirou.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695819
Type Mercury (ORT) = Ado Edem > Type Jupiter > Type Saturn > Type Pluto > Type Venus > Type Moon (Crimson Moon) > Primate Murder > Original Roa > Angra Mainyu > Zelretch (young) > Counter Guardian Archer > Gilgamesh (Tohsaka) > Gilgamesh (Kotomine) = Arcueid (standard 30%) > Dark Sakura > Dark Saber > Lancelot = Saber > 5th Berserker = 17th Roa (Elesia) > Dark Berserker > 4th Rider > 5th Lancer (optimal) > 4th Lancer = 5th Rider (Sakura/optimal) = 4th Caster (optimal) > 5th Lancer (Kotomine) = 5th Caster = 4th Caster (Ryuunosuke) > 5th Rider (Shinji) > Nrvnqsr = Clairvoyant Fujino = Kurogiri > Archer > Kouma > 5th Assassin = 4th Assassin > Aoko = Barthomeloi = Kojirou = Ciel = "Ryougi Shiki" = Souren Araya (within the Ogawa Building) > Gun God (Black Barrel) > Touko = El-Melloi = Night of Wallachia > Sion Tatari = Melty Blood Satsuki = R.Shiki = Akiha = Asagami Fujino = 18th Roa > Tohno SHIKI = Alba = Heaven痴 Feel Shirou = Kiri > Nanaya Shiki = Reinforced Kuzuki = Sion = UBW Shirou = Waver = Bazett > Avenger = Rin = Kotomine = Zouken = Luvia > Kiritsugu = Irisviel > Maiya = Leysritt = Tsukihime Satsuki = Lio = Avalon Shirou = Sakura = Ilya = Kariya = Len > Kirie = Caren = Meruka > The Dead = Possessed Corpse = Azaka = Misayo = Dragon Tooth Warrior = Fuji-nee > Fake Shiki > Gun God (unequipped) = Ryuunosuke = Tomoe = Shinji = Hisui = Kohaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695818

Reality has a tendency to SMAAAAASH fake realities.

It's not literally damaging but it means running a Reality Marble is horrendously taxing on magical energy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695827
Missing the strongest character, Neko Arc (it's canon)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695832
The whole concept of Reality Marbles isn't explained all that well in F/SN, I think they just figured everyone had read Tsukihime and loads of side material before going into F/SN, so they only gave a really brief explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695835

Neko-Arc Chaos is better

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695815

>IT'LL GROW BACK

Yeah sure, but oh wait, YOU GET KILLED 7 TIMES IN ONE BLOW

Technically speaking, I think Shirou is one of the best servants out there

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695779
>>4695807
Whenever I see spoilers listed out like this I start laughing hysterically.

I need to sleep...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695858

It makes me laugh too

And the thing I both love and hate about Type-Moon, is that it's all ONE UNIVERSE or something like that. It seems almost as confusing as american comics, but the latter will always be worse considering that the stories and characters have been around for decades and are going no where

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695853

Archer, if he fights seriously, can only defeat Heracles (insane) 6 times.

Caliburn only slew Heracles 7 times when SABER was wielding it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695893

You make a really good point there, didn't think to much when I typed it the first time around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695914

Well, the problem is that God Hand owns UBW.

Unlimited Blade Works copies are dropped one rank. If an attack is under B rank, God Hand blocks it. So Archer would have to project A rank or higher swords to even do damage.
A second aspect of God Hand (as well as Heracles's legendary warrior skill, even though he's insane) is that the same attack will generally do not work twice on him.

... So he'd have to not only fight with at minimum 12 A/+/+ rank swords, but have to use them all differently.

Heracles is way strong, even though he gets jobbed in all 3 routes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695937

Well, old Heracles was one of the few Greek Pantheon that didn't completely suck face.

Also, every time I hear the words "God Hand" I think of Gene, and then I think of either Gene fighting Berserker, or Berserker fighting like Gene

[OP Here No.]

Seems like this thread's life may soon be over, I just want to thank all the kind anon's for clarifying all this for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695874
> And the thing I both love and hate about Type-Moon, is that it's all ONE UNIVERSE or something like that.
It's called a multiverse, and it contains all the possible realities. Zelretch is probably the only person who can pass between them, thanks to his True Magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696073

It's implied in Heaven's Feel that Rin is capable of it, if she devotes the time and gets the money for it, and Zelretch himself is supportive of her manipulating the fuck out of the Magus Association.

[Anonymous No.]

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　ｓｅｍｅｓｔｅｒ，　ｍｉｋｅ。　

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696089
>>4696073

Wait, is Zelretch one of the 5 sorcerers that exist in FS/N, and also, I thought Rin was talking out her ass when she said that money was related to magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696103

Yes. Zelretch wields the Second Sorcery, the ability to traverse dimensions.

True Magic requires no money at all, but Rin doesn't know how to perform it at will. She needs an implement (e.g. the Gem Sword of Zelretch), and to create such a thing would be hella expensive.
Zelretch would have to teach her himself to pass on the Sorcery.

And although there are "five", the First and Third have no living wielders (unless one includes Justizia as 'alive'..).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696125

>Sooooo many terms

Man, it's gonna take a while to get used to this, I can imagine, that I have to play Tsukihime and the other VNs to understand everything right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696144
And read as much supplementary material as you can find. And all the official doujinshi, which there are a few of. And etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696144

Yes.

Enjoy wasting 6 months learning and memorizing it all, then suddenly realizing how it has absolutely no real-world value.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696153

>6 months

GOD DAMN!!!!

I guess it could be worse but still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696175
took me like 2 weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696175

It's actually rather fun.

Some of the stuff is incredibly cool.

Like the guy with the holyfuckinghax sword-arm-bone thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696195
Fuck yeah Slash Emperor. Sliced in half a being that couldn't be harmed by physical damage, simply because it has the property of "cutting through fucking anything".

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696194

To play through all of

>Tsukihime
>Kagetsu Tohya
>Melty Blood/: Re-Act
>Fate/Stay Night
>Fate/Zero

And if you care enough to/can read japanese
>Melty Blood: Actress Again
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
>Angel Notes
>Tsukihime 2 prologues
>All the side materials

[Necrobrotent No.]

>>4696205
And if you care enough to/can read japanese
>Melty Blood: Actress Again
>Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
>Angel Notes
>Tsukihime 2 prologues
>All the side materials

you can find all that shit translated on beats lair and youtube for the most part. I think about half of the AA stories are translated so far.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696151
>official doujinshi
Are there any translations of these, and if so, do you have any links?

I'm playing Battle Moon Wars right now, and feel like I should've read Kara no Kyoukai or whatever beforehand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696220
Well... here's one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696205

It's a lot, but fuck it, I'm interested, and it seems like it'll be a fun ride. And it'll take me longer than two weeks cause I'm just slow at doing shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696234

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696227

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696205
There's also the six original Kara no Kyoukai chapters, Mirai Fukuin, and DDD. Not to mention the loads of supplemental material (which is on Fuyuki Wiki for the most part).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696287
DDD doesn't take place in the type moon universe I think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696291
I thought it did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696302
not like it matters only the first part of the first book is translated.

and the translator is long dead.

[Anonymous No.]

Why can't game be small and good like Saya no Uta?

[Anonymous No.]

One of the more amusing things about Shirou is his skill in archery. It's just so hilarious looking at that scene in UBW where he get's all hardcore about archery details when you know who Archer is.

[Anonymous No.]

Swords are a metaphor for ideals.

In the routes that Shirou is "made of swords", he has no other influences shaping his personality, his identity, and his actions. He is simply a person made entirely of ideals- (of swords) who can only act as his ideals dictate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696661

Is that basically what shapes EMIYA in the end, with the whole Unlimited Blade
Works?