/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

New Ar Tonelico thread, previous thread (>>4632594) has hit the bump limit.

I wonder how long halloween.jpg will take this time.

[Anonymous No.]

And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links. Foobar can play the .tta files but if you feel like converting them to .FLAC or whatever for your MP3 player/Media player of choice then Foobar also provides an easy convert tool. Takes about a minute to convert the albums over to FLAC.

[Anonymous No.]

>I wonder how long halloween.jpg will take this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695262
I still don't get why this is posted in every thread.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks to the Anonymous in the OC thread for making this image, it always brings a smile to my face.

>>4695262

Impressive.

[Anonymous No.]

Someone has the AT3 CG set?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695271
Because AT3 is shitty and Chroche is the peak of the series

[Anonymous No.]

Yurishika, so good

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4695271
It's just Sion. He always posts it.

http://archive3.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/image/o/j8lesFdPe1f3B9PQQZCw==

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695286
CG Set? As far as I know there's no way to rip content from PS3 games yet, and I haven't found any scans of the artbook.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695338

The best is just caps like this, I think.

[Anonymous No.]

Seeing this thread reminds me of Mana Khemia, and that reminds me that I need to finish the damn game. Also, isn't MK related to Ar Tonelico?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695363
Caps are fine

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695374
Same company made them, and it's implied there may be a vague link between the two from the ending of Mana Khemia. Nothing concrete, and even if there is a link, they're definitely not set in the same universe so it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695293
In my opinion, Misha is the overall best waifu one can get from the whole series.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695374
same devs. not much else. It's a spinoff from the atelier games

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695411
She's definitely the best.

Good personality
Can change into a loli pretty much at will
Loves playing dressup
Dat chest
Dat ass
Dem legs
Dem feet

I think Jakuri edges her out slightly though, just because she'd be more interesting in bed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695390

I only have a few caps, mainly of the endings and Cocona in the bathroom.

>>4695374

It's pretty much the same as Ar Tonelico so sure, why not.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4695374
I think /jp/ had some hilarious/awesome theory how both the AT and the Atelier series were set in the same world or something. I need to find it in the old threads.

Also Anna is /jp/'s favorite MK character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695439

God I absolutely love Anna, a Nikki is fine too, but Anna's where it's at.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695414
It pretty much IS an Atelier game. It's part of Project Atelier, anyway, and they're listed as numbered Atelier games.

They probably changed the name because nobody classes the Atlier Iris games as proper Atelier games, and MK was closer to them than the rest of the Atelier series.

That plus AI3 was utterly shit, and they probably wanted to make sure MK had no association with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695460
It's specifically Mana Khemia that's linked with Ar Tonelico, because at the end of the second game it's stated it's the "End of the age of Alchemy", and science will be taking over. Ar Tonelico uses technobabble psudo-science to create it's world's magic, so some people think Ar Tonelico is the future of the Mana Khemia world.

Personally I think it's complete bullshit though, considering the first Ar Tonelico game came out way before Mana Khemia, and if they really were planning on making Mana Khemia linked to Ar Tonelico, they'd have put some references to AT in MK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695246

SASHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695411
>Implying Mir isn't the best waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

If you didn't choose Pamela you have no heart

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695505
I went with the bad end. Definitely my favorite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695489

I used to think that too, but it's scientifically impossible to top Tilia in the waifu department.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695505

DAMNIT

I completely forgot how much I loved her

Oh and Flay's drill is the drill that'll pierce the heavens

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695513
Never played AT3 but Tilia isn't a boss-turned-girlfriend-with-long-black-hair-who-has-red-eyes-and-also-is-a-megadere so I'm not interested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695513
Tilia really is the perfect waifu.

Feeding octopus sausage to her husbando in nothing but an apron and incredibly DAT ASS revealing panties.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695525
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeYRvvFbFEo

Tilia's confession is HNNNGGGG. Also, Mir's eyes are purple, no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695525
No. You're either thinking of Jakuri/Mir, or I don't know what you're on about.

Tilia has short-ish purple hair, DAT ASS, and is superior to the other heroines in every way, unless you like chest tumours.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695465
>AI3 was utterly shit
well *I* liked it at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695527

>"I love you"
>" Wha?!"
>"Aoto, i love you"
>"Wa-wa-wait a minute there is a policy for that, you know"
>"Policy? Should i kiss first?"
>"That's not it!"
>"Then...let's make babies?"
>"That's not it either!"

>BEST.CONFESSION.EVER!

I agree

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695481
>Ar Tonelico uses technobabble psudo-science
The magical part is of course fantasy but the rest is real science with a few twists.

1. Song
2. Sampling (Parmeno would be a microphone)
3. Quantification (transforms the data into discrete values)
4. Fourier Transform (optional, for denoising)
5. Encoding (Ardel buffer)
6. Reproduction (Grathnode would be a speaker)
7. Magic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695541
You're the only one in the world, seriously. They actually managed to downgrade the graphics, battle mechanics and storyline from Aterlier Iris 1, which is impressive considering AI1 was a total experiment to begin with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695552
people liked the music at least right?
RIGHT!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695552
I think *you* may be the only one who thinks that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695489
>Implying implications that imply other implications
Sure. If you're a masochist I can see her charm.

She has a bad attitude and isn't developed yet (inb4 you don't belong here if you aren't lolicon). With Misha you can choose which form is of your liking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695552
i think you're exagerating a little, the battle system and graphics in 3 were a lot better. they also got rid of random encounters and i liked the music

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695560
The music is the only thing I've ever seen praised.

>>4695562
Nope, it got MUCH worse reviews than any other members of the series, most of the fanbase despises it, and it's generally considered a lazy failure.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695566
>Implying Mir will ever develop into a woman despite going through puberty over 350 years ago.

This greentext thing is fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695566

I think Mir is able to mature at will too. I remember she saying she keeps her body like that on purpose.

[Anonymous No.]

atelier iris 2>3>1>annie

I never played the others

[Anonymous No.]

Regarding Mir's body

http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_Portal_translation/Toukousphere/Issue_86

[Anonymous No.]

Do the MK games have romance aspects similar to the AT games?

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4695527
>>You have earned a trophy: "Tilia Love Love 1"

It's about time we get some worthwhile achievements/trophies in these current-gen console games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695652

Uhh kinda I think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695527

I love this scene.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695655
Like saving 100 times

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695652
you can get a character specific ending but it's not romantic like AT is

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695661
Why does she have those things on her back?

Does she jack into The Matrix?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695652
not really... you can choose a girl like in the AT games but they dont say I love you or anything like that, it's all implied

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695677

Probably the binds for her linkage armor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695681
>>4695675
Why would anyone play them then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695505
>>4695460
>>4695439
Anna was fucking awesome. She was the strongest plotwise too so that just adds to how awesome she was. God-tier in battle too. A bunch of Quick Dreams to Dancing Blade Chaos to open up a boss battle.

I kinda wish she popped up in MK2, though. I was actually excited to face those alumni that Flay was going to throw at me because I thought I'd get to see the other MK1 characters. Was I disappointed...

>>4695246
I wish to have a genius daughter that works hard like Sasha. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695731
because they're very fun, i like the combat system

[Anonymous No.]

You know if you play MK before AI3 you will completely miss the joke between Pamela's and Roxis's relationship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695825
What was the joke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695930
In AI3 a bookworm with glasses falls in love with Pamela and proposes to her even though she is a ghost.
In MK Pamela just goes up to Roxis and says she doesn't like him that way in front of everybody.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695965

Wait, so Pamela is from Ataleir Iris as well as Mana Khemia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695987
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695987
there's a lot of stuff from the atelier games in mana khemia. the azoth, flay's mech blade, alvero's sword, marie's dress

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

>>4695993
>>4696008

That's pretty cool, I'll have to play the AT and AR games (why'd they have to have such similar names) sometime.

[Anonymous Jones@SHANA !Xaaaaaaaa. No.]

Not according to keikaku

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696152
Which is why you savestate every few minutes

[Anonymous Jones@SHANA !Xaaaaaaaa. No.]

>>4696164
Savestates are for homosexuals

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696168
Use them

[Anonymous Jones@SHANA !Xaaaaaaaa. No.]

>>4696178
No. There are plenty of savepoints as it is, it cheapens the game to save state.
And the game crashes every time I enter that battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696152
Why is your part so weak?

[Anonymous Jones@SHANA !Xaaaaaaaa. No.]

>>4696212
Weak, seriously?
The game is a breeze so I was afraid I was grossly overlevelled.
Croix and Shun are level 60, iirc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696219
I mean your back party.

[Anonymous Jones@SHANA !Xaaaaaaaa. No.]

>>4696236
Oh.
Because I haven't made them bathe in a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696246

You monster.

[Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga No.]

>>4696246
So dirty Jones.

[Anonymous No.]

So hey, wasn't Mir supposed to be like 'the second coming of Tilia' or something (which she then managed to slap on Aurica like a troll)?

Besides being everyones favorite, I don't really see the relation between them.

And Pamela is the best from MK and all the other Atelier games too and I refuse to believe she was 15 when she died in MK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696542
Mir hacked into Aurica to make people think she was the second coming of Tyria. That's all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696615

I wish Mir would troll me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696542
>>4696615
Not quite. When Mir was first born hundreds of years ago she was worshipped as "The second coming of Tyria", for reasons that aren't fully known, but are likely related to the reasons that Shurelia dislikes Tilia.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697539
I'm sorry but where is it implied that Shurelia dislikes her? Is it on one of the artbooks or on the third game? Just asking, since I still have to read the translation of the artbooks.

[Anonymous No.]

This reminds me that I've yet to clear Tilia's 3rd level and Saki's cosmosphere.
I just can't betray Finnel ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697627

Tilia is nice to clear, even if you like Finnel. I just can't force myself to go through the generic moeblob route.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm personally having trouble deciding if I want to go for dat Tiliass or COCONAAAA...

[Anonymous No.]

COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697909

Go for Tilia first. Not focusing on a single girl kind of makes it dull even if you do get a Cocona end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4697579
Toukousphere. Every time Tilia is mentioned Shurelia has her angry-ish face and is like "WHO THE FUCK IS TILIA AND WHY ARE YOU MENTIONING HER IN THE BIT THAT BELONGS TO ME?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4696542
Mir was called like that because she was a very powerful tool and people regained hope for restoring the former First Era glory. They even had churches and statues built in Tilia's name.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, are you guys talking about the same Tilia from AT3? You mean to say the old AT girls (Shurelia, Mir, etc.) are in this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698978
I don't understand your question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4698987

The last several posts are talking like Tilia, Mir, and Shurelia in the same game (Ar Tonelico 3). I was wondering if that means Mir and Shurelia are in that game.

[Anonymous No.]

saki is da best

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699013
Tilia is the only one of the three in AT3, but Shurelia and Tilia knew each other back when the Tower project started, and seem to dislike each other in side material, at the very least Shurelia dislikes Tilia.

Mir was known as "The second coming of Tilia" in the past, but as far as I know they've never had any interaction at all in side material.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699013
I (>>4698853) am just talking about old stuff, legends from the First and Second Era.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4699037
>>4699041

Oh, I see. Was just wonderin'.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have scans or transcriptions for the first Hymmnote?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700357
http://artonelico.isisview.org/wiki/index.php/Ar_tonelico Is this what you are looking for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695547
Here

>>4695525
HNNNNNNNGGGGGG
Still like Mir better though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4695525
Here

>>4695547
HNNNNNNGGGGGGGG
Still like Mir better though.

[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

So, um, guys. During Raki's attack phase she crashes pcsx2 without fail.
Any tips on wiping her out in one turn?

I do about a third of her health in damage during my first attack phase, max.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4701846
Just patch the ISO with this and problem solved. http://asmodean.reverse.net/pages/ar2bugfix.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>4700782
Nope. Hymmnote is sheet music. I'm looking for EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/. specifically.

[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>4701971
Awesome, thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

That was close

[Anonymous No.]

Does AT2 run better on a comp?

I remember raging when I played it on my PS2 and the game had FPS/spiking issues during flashy attacks so I would miss guard presses at the worst times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4703882
I get 60 fps constant during the non-overworld (3D) parts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4704088
by non-overworld (3D) I mean I run 60fps during the 2D parts, but in the overworld (where it's 3D) it drops down.

[Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. No.]

>>4695246
COCONAAAAAA

[sam No.]

check it http://www.e-castig.com/index.php?r=e10g8

[Anonymous No.]

>>4704247
derek, please escort this sam fellow off of the premises

[Der∴k No.]

>>4704247
Link has viruses ):

[Anonymous No.]

Is Jones auto-bumping the thread or something? You can stop that now.

[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>4703882
I never got any lag, once I updated my pcsx2 to a version from this year instead of the old version I had to begin with.

Wondering if I'll play this again. There's no New Game + or anything, is there any "Jakuri route" option once the game is cleared or something? Luca is a whore so I'm not really crazy about the thought of replaying just for her.

[Anonymous No.]

God damn Finnel's cosmosphere is so much more fun than Saki's.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4706496
In all the girl's level 5 cosmospheres there is something like a "confess to her/accept her love" or "stay as friends" choice. That's the only thing which determines the ending.

Jakuri can be done on any path; just confess to her first and don't dive past level 4-5 on the other girls. Alternatively, finish the game without confessing to anyone and you'll get the Cocona ending. If you just want to see the scenes without replaying on Luca's route I'd say download a save or something. Maybe these work:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/save/939100.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>4706496

>Luca is a whore so I'm not really crazy about the thought of replaying just for her.

It always makes me laugh seeing this. People really do hate Luca.

>>4706525

You expected much from a generic moeblob?

[Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga No.]

>>4706852
Didn't they make Luca as a character meant to be hated?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4706864

Perhaps. Her initial attitude in the game combined with her Hymmnos vocalist make me dislike her. I think she gets better though as you go through her route, not that I'd know since I only did Mir and Cloche.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4706924

I've seen her route, she really doesn't.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

[Anonymous No.]

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4706852
>>4706864

No one likes Luca.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4707951

I'd taste her fish, if you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4708113

She is certainly not 'truly worth' it, in the long run.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4706957

She's destined to be a bitch, I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

You know, I hate Luca a bunch.

But I'd still bone her over a lot of others. Maybe it's the hair.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4709434

To be fair you'd have sex with anything that stands on two legs, Anonymous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4710809

Not if it was Aurica. (not that you used an Aurica image but...)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4712179

Tumours putting you off, Anonymous?

[Anonymous No.]

Obligatory Mir screenshot.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4712333
Cloche and Misha could poke an eye out with those things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4712333

Top: Delicious Flat Chest. (because Small isn't as funny)
Middle: Big Bazookas
Bottom: Glorious Middlegrounder Master Race

[Anonymous No.]

>>4714621
You can turn off the deinterlacer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4714915

I don't have it enabled, I just saved that screenshot from one of the earlier threads since I was too lazy to take my own.

[Anonymous No.]

Needs more 別人格 art

[Anonymous No.]

>>4715364

Elaborate.

[Anonymous No.]

Thank you Mir.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Luca is no Mir, but I assure you that a decent percentage of the fanbase likes her. It just happens that those who don't are more vocal.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a bit new to PCSX2, can anyone tell me how to get rid of the squares/polygons on the character's faces (pic related)?
(Or for that matter, vertical black lines during the intro vid)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4719368
Run it in native resolution, no scaling.

[Anonymous No.]

A bit irrelevant, but since we're on the subject of the Atelier series, does anyone know what the name changes in AI1 and 2 were for? Paracelsus-Palaxius, Trismegistos-Amalgam etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4719466

That did the trick. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous No.]

Meanwhile at the third tower...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4719560
Why is he so uke?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4719560

I wish someone would translate these.

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Cocona so perfect?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4721391

Twin tails + flat (well, nowhere near the level of others but...) + giant energy sword + defying common reyvateil body physics + rides a sword in AT3 it looks like.

[Anonymous No.]

SWEATY MOE

I look forward to AT3 doujins

[Anonymous No.]

Rustling Throb ~Cloche~ has been looping for about 5 hours now, feels good man.

>>4722275

Her weapons combine into a surfboard, hence the swimsuit.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

I will also listen to it and become one with you, Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4719560
is that cocona being a slut i see

[Anonymous No.]

>>4722521

I think the text say's she's just getting a massage. Clearly Aoto knows how to give a backrub of the gods.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4722490

Have fun looping it, I know I am.

[Anonymous No.]

Does PCSX2 work with Mana Khemia?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4723461

May have to hunt down one of the older fixed versions. I have a copy somewhere that did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4723466
Sweet, mind uploading it?
Tried googling about it just now and all I see are just issues on getting it to emulate / unplayable.

[Anonymous No.]

Delicious official wallpaper.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4724401
Any more? Link me, bro.

[Anonymous No.]

>Luca hate

I get where the haters are coming from, but a lot of you exaggerate so much. The prison? She just found out the sister she'd worked so hard for to get back had been dead for years. Not. Infelsphere? Cloche wasn't exactly nice and friendly in it either. Cosmosphere? Cosmospheres are exaggerated as shit for pretty much every heroine.

Excluding those things, she's pretty dull in the story, and she really gets the short end of the stick in the story department, so I can see disliking her for that. But you guys really overreact about those things above.

Admittedly I mostly just like her due to DAT CHARACTER DESIGN and Haruka Shimotsuki.

[Anonymous No.]

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4725347
Luca is a woman of loose morals; she will dive into anything.

I personally like her for that though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4725347
Well, her character design is nice...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4726370
I think she looks better without the ridiculous hair ornament.

[Anonymous No.]

Cocona

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4722296

Same here.

[Anonymous No.]

Cloche is the best
You just havent used replekia enough

[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>4727781
ATII is too easy even without it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4727743
かぼたつかわええ

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4727891
So what did you think of the game? Good? Sucks and you want your money back?

At the very least we can agree that it was better than Persona 3 and 4, right?

[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>4728127
I liked it.
Definitely better than that boring Persona garbage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4723473

http://www.mediafire.com/?rhnu0xdmmdi

[Anonymous No.]

>>4728144

Hopefully you'll shut up about AT threads now, right?

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4728199
Jonesy wasn't the one trolling the AT threads.

That was Mainstream Game Anon (who I believe is currently busy with Aika).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4728199
I'd take Meido-san as my bride even if she has been sullied by Mir.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4728127
>At the very least we can agree that it was better than Persona 3 and 4, right?

Not that guy, but... I like all of them... what the heck do Persona 3/4 have to do with this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4728716

Persona is shit, AT is not

[Anonymous No.]

>>4728722

They are nothing alike. Persona is brought up out of nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4725286

They come with the OSTs which are at the top of this thread. I'm sure they're also on a booru but I'm too lazy to look.

>>4727743

They need to stop sexualising my waifu.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4728722

Did you even know about AT 3+ months ago?

[Anonymous No.]

3 pages missing and the Chen image already gone? I'm impressed, meido.

[Anonymous No.]

Are/were there any AT3 popularity polls? I'm interested in seeing how people rate the various personalities of each heroine

[Anonymous No.]

>>4730498
That mouth... it's a horror unto itself.

[Anonymous No.]

is AT3 getting localized yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>4726370

Yeah, I have as much hate for Luca as anyone (reminds me way too much of an ex), but goddamn is she cute. I took her route the first time, hoping that she would get better simply because of what her character design does to my nutbladder, but I ended up ditching her for Mir the moment I could.

[Anonymous No.]

luca is a good girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>4730218
Your waifu's sweat is like a pheromone. Unless she stops sweating, she'll keep attracting guys. Including me. It feels odd, but I'm strangely turned on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4731143

Perhaps so but I'm the only one for her. Whilst you're free to fantasize about my waifu I strongly recommend you keep those thoughts to yourself, unless you want a swift death via scythe.

[Anonymous No.]

It's just another game that requires an expensive game console and a TV, isn't it? Damn you, rich fags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4731797

I'd hardly call them rich fags. Working full time for a week will get you a PS3 and a copy of the game, maybe two weeks if you're on minimum wage. Another week will get you a 32" HDTV if you know where to look. Alternatively you can leech off the government depending on where you live, I know plenty of people who sit around all day leeching off Job Seekers Allowance. It's not all that hard to get a console and TV these days.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>4732741

So moe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4726357
>she will dive into anything.
That's like saying that a doctor will touch anyone if he's paid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4726357
She doesn't dive into patients, she lets people dive into her. A big difference.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>4732847
No, it's like saying a girl will have sex with anyone if she's paid.
Get your innuendos right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4734529

So you're saying she's a slut, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4736268
I believe you mean financially minded

[Anonymous No.]

I have 2 great disappointments

1) Soma should have been the MAIN personality.
2) Akane should have been a vanguard and diveable

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4736339
>2) Akane should have been a vanguard and diveable

THIS. The 恋愛講座 with Aoto and Akane is easily one of my favorite scenes in the game

[Anonymous No.]

>2) Akane should have been a vanguard and diveable
THIS. MOTHERFUCKING THIS.

[Anonymous No.]

Has there been news of a localization and/or release date? I really want to play this, even though this will probably be my first AT unless I get out of procrastination and try to emulate the first two games.

[Anomynous No.]

>>4736433
It's been out a month. If it is translated and released in at the same pace as the first two, you're looking at 12-15 months. I think the publisher changed, though, so that might gum up the works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4736339
>>4736407
>>4736429
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi07on8Ytqk

[Anomynous No.]

Ec Tisia is awesome. I think it's better than chronicle key.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4736704
>better than chronicle key.
Blasphemy!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4736507

... I actually like the graphics on this. Sure it's not 2D sprites like the first two games, but it still looks good. At least they didn't try to go all "realistic"; you know what happens when you mix anime and realism together (see Star Ocean 4).

Only thing I don't like about this, it looks like they freeze the on-screen action when they're talking.

[Anomynous No.]

>>4736789
It's not bad. It could certainly use some work though. I'd compare it to early PS2 era graphics.

[Anonymous No.]

I prefer the 2D look.

Feels... nostalgic. From back then when jRPGs were actually fun and engaging.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4736845

It's Gust's first 3D game (or was it Atelier Rorona), I'm sure they'll do better once they get used to it.

[Anomynous No.]

>>4737144
I am aware of that. Still, it's a bit jarring relative to the games I'm used to playing on the PS3.

[Anonymous No.]

I think AT3 looks quite nice in HD. Everything looks detailed and smooth enough for the style it's made in. Only thing that bugs me is the way everything is animated, a lot of it looks really out of place, especially running. And anything Mute does, but I'm sure that was done deliberately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4737215

Yea. One thing I don't like is what I said in the other post, the action on-screen "freezes" (if you don't know what I mean, I'm talking when it blurs) when they're talking. Would have been nice to see the character models animating or doing something while they talk.

Another game that did something like that was Wild Arms 4. It was really jarring and mood-breaking when the protagonist's loved one was killed, and this happens:

[Anonymous No.]

>>4737215

Yea. One thing I don't like is what I said in the other post, the action on-screen "freezes" (if you don't know what I mean, I'm talking when it blurs) when they're talking. Would have been nice to see the character models animating or doing something while they talk.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4737266
Yeah, the talking bits are SUPPOSED to be done VN-style, but sometimes they don't put the foreground bit with the character avatars on during conversations, and it ends up looking really weird.

It's all down to inexperience with 3D. They're still really just a doujin studio with no experiance of 3D or HD, so Atelier Rorona and AT3 are still really just testers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4737286

Is for >>4737268 btw

Deleted my post because I was going on another rant but changed my mind, but I forgot to erase it.

[Anonymous No.]

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>>4736704

It's good but it's hard to beat EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/..

>>4736507

Another great scene. I just hope they don't fuck up scenes like this in the localization, it wont be so bad if they keep dual audio but still I can't help but feel like they'll fuck it up again like AT2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4738182
Hopefully they've listened to all of the criticism. Anyone know what their recent localizations have been like?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4738191

The most recent NISA localization I remember playing is Disgaea 3. It was pretty good, imo. I think a lot of scenes are funnier with the English VA than just hearing it in Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4738191

In a previous thread they claim they're still interested and definately don't want to make the mistake of fucking up their translation like they did with AT2. I can't personally say anything about their recent translations but I know stuff like Disgaea has more budget so it gets a better translation. Hopefully they don't skimp on the costs this time, whenever they pick it up.

[Anonymous No.]

If nothing else, we probably won't get stuck with game-breaking bugs forever this time. The ability to patch games after release is no excuse for poor QA, but I'd rather have the capability than not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4738539

Just be glad it's not on the 360 then, Microsoft aren't really fond of releasing patches/updates for free unless it's a major title. Left 4 Dead is a good example, the PC gets updates the moment they're released whereas the 360 needs to wait for a major content update before it gets all of its bug fixes because Microsoft refuse to put up content for download without making money off it.

[Anonymous No.]

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[Anomynous No.]

>>4738182
Ohh, this thread is still here. Awesome.

Personally? I prefer Ec Tisia for now. The 'new' factor has a lot of weight for me, and I just found them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4741477

>Ohh, this thread is still here. Awesome.

Well you just technically saved it since I've been out all day. You have my thanks, good sir. Have a waifu.

[Anomynous No.]

>>4741691
Can't due to trade and waifu agreements with others I am in contact with.

Nomic is a strange an interesting game, sometimes.

[Anomynous No.]

China Misha is Best Misha

[Anonymous No.]

>>4741967
Dead Misha is best Misha.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4741974

Misha is awesome, if only for Chronicle Key.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4739031
Microsoft allow bug fixes. They don't like large amounts of DLC being given away for free, but they don't care about game fixing patches.

Left4Dead is a rubbish example because Valve go out of their way to make consoles seem inferior to PCs for gaming.

[Anonymous No.]

AT3 localisation, when?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4742938

Under a certain size, yes. Anything over a few MB and they require a fee to be added. Why do you think common and abused bugs like Crouch running, ghost clawing and powershot were in the game for so long in the 360 version until a content update was released?

>Valve go out of their way to make consoles seem inferior to PCs for gaming.

Because they are? And how exactly do they do this?

[Anomynous No.]

>>4743157
Upthread I mentioned IF they follow roughly the same schedule, 12-15 months.

[Anonymous No.]

You know, after playing AT3, I've still got no fucking idea about who the hell is the smiling guy from AT2.

[Anomynous No.]

>>4743287
Dr Laude?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4743337
The guy lacks a mustache.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4743191
No matter the size. There's plenty of large bug fixes out there, although companies do seem to like the "Microsoft is evil and won't let us fix it baaaaawwww" excuse when they're too lazy to release a fix.

As for the Valve thing, see any of their press releases regarding the console versions of their games that weren't issued around the time the game was coming out, and also see their attitude towards the PS3 because they would actually have to do some work to make a PS3 version of their games rather than the cut+paste job the 360 requires.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4745192
Frelia really is the embodiment of moe.

Never fails to cause HNNNNNGGGG

[Anonymous No.]

>>4745204

[Anonymous No.]

FRELIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.]

>>4745853
>Dem flatness

It's over, perfection is finally possible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4746283
>It's over, titty monsters are finished!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4746292

I see no problem with this.

[Anonymous No.]

am i the only one, who thinks the (standard-)costumes got worse from at1 till at3?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4747470

They're still pretty awesome to me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4747470

I'd generally agree. AT1 and AT2 weren't too far apart, but the AT3 outfits just look ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4749140

If anything the AT1/2 outfits were ridiculous. AT3's are more.. plain than usual but they're certainly not bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4750638
Are we talking about general designs? At the very least I think that the Standard clothing underneath the Linkage armor's gotten stupider as the games have gone on. As much as I love Tilia, her design's really silly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4750724

I'm referring to the heroines general costumes as the previous comment mentioned. Misha, for example, had ridiculous hair ornaments and her costume was a little silly. Cloche has her silly angel type outfit etc. But nothing really sticks out in AT3, Finnel's costume isn't really anything special (dem thighs/chest though..), Saki's isn't impressive at all apart from her hidden tumours and Tilia's costume without her linkage armour is extremely basic, even if it is stupidly delicious.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

I love her armor though. Need H doujinshi with her wearing that.

[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

How do I fix all these ugly broken textures, /v/? (Pic related, red arrows pointing to them)
They move around whenever I move around, so I can sometimes see the pile of rocks and grass that should be there and sometimes not, and it's infuriating.

[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

Also how do I gag Lyner, his voice is so annoying

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752500
I have Logarithmic-Z on, checked Texture Filtering, and have it set at native res. Also grey-check the NLOOP Hack. If that doesn't work full-check NLOOP hack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752507
Play undub.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752500
Why the hell are you playing the games backwards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752946
I don't think anyone did an undub for AT1; just AT2.

[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>4752963
>>4752946
I have an undub, his Japanese voice is a pain.

>>4752941
>have Logarithmic-Z on, checked Texture Filtering, and have it set at native res.
Already set like this, but what is NLOOP hack?
It's not in my settings.

[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>4752956
It'd be backwards if I started with 3. I'll never play 3, since it's for an un-emulatable console.
Anyway, I was told that I really wasn't missing much by skipping straight to 2.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753015
You should get a job and quit being a burden on society.

[Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA No.]

>>4753022
I'm a full-time student, not a useless floorshitter like you, Losstashit.
Shut up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4752990
Ah. Just noticed you were using the SVN. Sorry bro, the NLOOP hack is only in the current official release. (think it's 0.9.7 or something like that).

As for the voices, you could just set it to english if you have the undub, but you won't hear any voices at all.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are people talking about an undub for Tonelico 1 when it had the full Japanese track in it anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753123
Undub fixed the language during the movie scenes

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753022
That wouldn't be very fun now would it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4742101
Only for EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/.?

She reads technical books: Intelligent and educated.
Is afraid of heights but tries to overcome it: Moe factor.
Wholeheartedly dedicated to the protagonist (any AT heroine is, but well): Loyal waifu.

Perfect waifu for me.

[ZUN !barYV1VtIA No.]

>>4752500
I am genuinely surprised that you're playing AT1. I guess you must have really liked the second game.

AT1 takes a while to get started, but it's a good game in the end. I always ran from random battles in it though, because they mostly sucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4754516
I'm more shocked at the fact that he's still having emulation problems. He'll never be an EXPERT PROGRAMMER.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4753549

Oh, don't get me wrong. I love Misha too but to a faggot saying that dead Misha is the best Misha I was simply stating that Misha is awesome, if only for EXEC_CHRONICLE_KEY/..

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>4758125

Dat sideboob. Dat ass. Dose stockings.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't mind me, just true, canonical end passing through.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759395
That's surprising, they usually do not establish any ending properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759395

Wishful thinking or truth? I saw some people claim that AT1 was harem end and AT2 was Cloche end.

[Anomynous No.]

>03/22/10(Mon)00:01
>03/29/10(Mon)18:36
I...
I knew /jp/ was slow... but

but...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759489
we take it easy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759489

Huh. I thought this thread was more recent than that.

[Anonymous No.]

I could listen to method_metafalica all day

And in fact, I often do

[Anonymous No.]

I'd rather kill myself than acknowledge the generic moeblob as the true end of AT3.

>>4759489

You're making it sound like it's unusual. Plenty of threads last a week or longer, hell even the Hatsukoi thread got ghost bumped for nearly a month. Nothing unusual about having a thread last a week here, especially with 15 pages. And we like to take it easy.

[Anomynous No.]

>>4759653
I was just happy to see a /jp/ thread on Ar Tonelico. When I found it Wednesday last week.

I hadn't really noticed that some threads on /jp/ last for short eternities.

Is it just me or are the Origins getting flatter as the series goes on? Shurelia had small breasts, Frelia's were smaller still, and Tilia, from all the art I've seen so far, seems to lack them entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759682

Tilia's are just right. And again a week isn't long on /jp/, maybe if you're used to the speed of the faster boards or something.. but even then /a/ used to be this slow too. Good times.

[Anomynous No.]

>>4759802
I browse anywhere from 6-10 boards at a time digging for good topics. The only one slower than /jp/ is /n/.

I do wish I had more Ar Tonelico.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759802

Tilia's look okay in that particular screencap. However, in-game when she's wearing her normal outfit it looks VERY flat. Like, flatter than Taiga or Konata flat. But then, since I haven't played AT3 and only have the pics being posted to go by, I could very well be wrong. Still, her normal outfit makes her look flatter than an ironing board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759889
She is one/

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759889
I'm not understanding the issue here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759889
>>4759682

And that is a bad thing how...?

[Anonymous No.]

Tilia's ass and DFC are miracles of the Artoneliverse.

[Anomynous No.]

>>4759940
>>4759976
I'm a heretical scumbag. It's okay, I have Saki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4760067
Fret not, you're not the only one who dislikes utter flatness.

[Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga No.]

>>4760067
I don't mind udder (haha) flatness, but I do prefer a tiny bit of a chest myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4760100

Yeah, I love me by DFC. Tilia just seems to be a different kind of flat, I can't put it into words. (I'm >>4759889)

[Anonymous No.]

you now realise that tilia looks like a trap

[Anonymous No.]

>>4761094

That works too!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4761094

You wish she was, fairyboy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4759395
How can it be a canon end when Saki doesn't exist?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4762080

Because Akiko Shikata.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread really saddened me, because Luca is the only reason I got into this series in the first place.

You know, one shouldn't care about what others think about the characters they like, but I like having common ground with you guys because I love you all so much. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4762125
>>Luca support
>>love you all so much. ;_;

I see what you did there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4762125
It's not too late to convert

[Anonymous No.]

>>4762155

But the only reason I got involved with these games at all was because Luca possesses (delicious) yandere qualities. The music is also fantastic, of course, and the Reyvateil/Hymmnos system also strikes me as cool, since I prefer "magic" systems that revolve around accessing something that generates the "spell" realistically (like Blame!'s nanobots and Nasuverse's Akasha stuff), but really the only character I ever really cared about that much is Luca. I guess Mir is interesting too, but because of her popularity she goes from badass villain to prettymuch the typical choice merely because of that role.

Still, admittedly, Luca's profession is kind of... whorish, just, she's implied to be a lot more vanilla than every other Dive Therapist ever, is all... right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4762208
>>I guess Mir is interesting too, but because of her popularity she goes from badass villain to prettymuch the typical choice merely because of that role.

Mir is Sephiroth.

[Anonymous No.]

Luca is probably what got me to play the games, too. She is very close to my ideal when it comes to physical attributes. I was rather let down by her personality, though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4762224
Don't group my waifu with that faggot, you nigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4762977

[Anonymous No.]

>>4762224
Genius.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4763048

[Anonymous No.]

>>4763059

[Anonymous No.]

>>4763068
FFFFUUUUU I SO FUCKING MAD

[Anonymous No.]

>>4763084

LOLOLOLOLOL I TROLL U SO HARD!

You're a good sport.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4763163
Get back to /b/ you faggot troll.

Same to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4762977
>>4763048
>>4763059
>>4763068
>>4763084
>>4763163
>>4763188

That was adorable.

[Anonymous No.]

And trolls take this past the bump limit again. Shall I make another?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4764059

Actually, if you payed attention, those two became bros at the end. It's like Croche and Luca all over again.

And sure, that would be excellent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4764066

Eh, I stopped paying attention at the "Mir is Sephiroth" comment.

[Anonymous No.]

New thread at >>4764246.