Soo, I've noticed some hidden things in the game openings and I thought I would point them out. Let's start with this one, many people miss that one particular frame.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:10:31 2010 No.4680990 [Reply] [Original]

Soo, I've noticed some hidden things in the game openings and I thought I would point them out.
Let's start with this one, many people miss that one particular frame.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:14:31 2010 No.4681005
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Through the 4&5's openings, we are shown this wiew three times.
What's interesting about it is that it once(halfway through op3) seemingly pops in Battlers mind... and also, it's clearly visible that the only person that is actually inside the shed is Hideyoshi.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:16:31 2010 No.4681020
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The heart and Evatrice laughing. Obviously, it's the scene from the E3 finale.

However, look closely it.

Natsuhi could've been very well still alive at the time and guarding blind Jessica from whoever was Evatrice.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:16:31 2010 No.4681024 WOW DEEP

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:17:31 2010 No.4681027 File: 131 KB, 640x480, virgilia portrait.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4681020 at it God fucking damnit. Also, delicious Virgilia portrait. Should've started with it to catch Anon's attention.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:19:31 2010 No.4681036 Instead of doing this just link to animesuki, they devoted a lot of time into examining the new OP for ep5 A LOT

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:19:31 2010 No.4681038 File: 120 KB, 640x960, Torii.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lightings do not work like this. Therefore the Torii should not exist at all. Which is bad for the reliability of Shannon's backstory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:20:31 2010 No.4681040 >>4681027 >delicious Virgilia portrait it's part of ep4 one

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:21:31 2010 No.4681046 File: 81 KB, 640x480, the burning thingy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4681036 That's awesome. Link please? Anyway, the mansion does not have any tower. The chapel could. So... why would the chapel burn down like that?

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:24:31 2010 No.4681060
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>>4681040
well shit. I still have some things, hopefully at least one would be a hit.

Note the date on the pic, three months prior to the conference. I feel like it's bullshit, but it's still the background from the rose garden on Rokkenjima.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:25:31 2010 No.4681065 >>4681046 that's Beato's tower from ep3

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:26:31 2010 No.4681067 >>4680990 The "anime" op spoils shaanon mastermind so yeah

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:26:31 2010 No.4681070 >>4681060 good point there, but we know Battler hasn't been to Rokkenjima, so this is strange

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:26:31 2010 No.4681072
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Well, you've got to wonder why are Rosa, Natsuhi and Kyrie in one pic. It should be Eva. So Kyrie's role in E3 would be the same as Natsuhi and Rosa in E1 and 2, be it "going genuinely against Beatrice" or "Being Beatrice's accomplice"

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:28:31 2010 No.4681077 File: 127 KB, 640x480, back there.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4681072 And then...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:28:31 2010 No.4681081 >>4681046 too many pages, but post what you think because I remember most of them

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:30:31 2010 No.4681085 File: 89 KB, 640x480, balcony.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4681046 This is one of the first E5 opening frames, I thought Beato's towers were more like the anime ones covers face

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:31:31 2010 No.4681086 File: 59 KB, 640x480, moon towers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4681085 Ah, here they are

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:31:31 2010 No.4681089 >>4681081 there are some intresting things like that shot from the chapel, we didn't have one, but most of it is just about ep5 expecting new 'animation' for eps 7-8

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:32:31 2010 No.4681094 >>4681060 This is kinda interesting..Ange also shouldn't be grown at the time, but meh..

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:32:31 2010 No.4681095 File: 71 KB, 640x480, willow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is the willow doing there? It's E4 teaparty, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:34:31 2010 No.4681101 File: 94 KB, 640x480, dem doors.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4681089 Is this the chapel door or "these door only open at the propability of trillion to one"?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:34:31 2010 No.4681104 >>4681085 part of the mansion

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:34:31 2010 No.4681106 File: 85 KB, 640x480, natsuhiseeswhatbeatodidthere.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is she smiling?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:34:31 2010 No.4681107 >>4681094 chibi-ange is like normal ange in terms of clothing

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:35:31 2010 No.4681109 >>4681094 Actually..disregard this. I forgot he doesn't redraw sprites, as we've never seen 6 year old Ange.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:36:31 2010 No.4681115 File: 118 KB, 640x480, red part.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Part of the portrait show from E5, I thought it reminds me of something but can't tell what.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:37:31 2010 No.4681120 File: 117 KB, 640x480, Dem photos.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ignore the mysterious person, who's on the photo?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:37:31 2010 No.4681123 >>4681106 the song it's saying something about a 'smile'

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:38:27 2010 No.4681126 >>4681120 Dlanor, it has a golden aura and is the only thing taht could appear by Erika

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:40:31 2010 No.4681136
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This arrangement of people is also interesting.

I mean, it would be on the level of General Obvious to question whether Evatrice is Lambda's piece, but why is it Bern and Ronove?
Imagine Ronove being Bern's double agent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:41:31 2010 No.4681138 >>4681120 Too small to really tell. Doubt Kinzo kept photos of his family.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:42:31 2010 No.4681142 File: 277 KB, 640x1440, Moon.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It might be just my paranoia, but there is a lot of Moon in the OP's.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:43:31 2010 No.4681147 >>4681142 we all now what the moon means, when it dissapears, the sun shines and the truth is revealed

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:43:31 2010 No.4681149 File: 133 KB, 640x480, a person in battlers eye.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Also dubious, but it looks like a person in his eye. Or something, whatever could create a shilloute like that?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:45:31 2010 No.4681158 >>4681149 Ryu isn't THAT twisted

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:45:31 2010 No.4681161 File: 118 KB, 640x480, chain&fence.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Um, is this a shot from the ship? The fence is obvious, but are there commonly chains on yachts? I can't remember any ship like that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:46:31 2010 No.4681163 >>4681158 though by the arm sillhouete, it looks like Battler

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:47:31 2010 No.4681167 >>4681161 the ship is old

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:47:31 2010 No.4681170 >>4681115 That hand is in Erika's portrait. All I know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:48:31 2010 No.4681173 >>4681020 Huh? I don't see Natsuhi here.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:49:31 2010 No.4681180
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That's the last and the least important one.
The book's cover caught my attention, but I doubt that anyone would recognize it.
Knowing Ryu, he used some Vonnegut's book or something like that to troll the western audience just a little bit.

There is also the three frame shot of Lambda and Bern before the chessboard breaks, implying that they fucked everything up, but that's just minor trolling, even though people usually miss it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:49:31 2010 No.4681182 >>4681120 One on the right looks like the EP4 witch hunter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:51:31 2010 No.4681195 >>4681173 The heart has one-winged eagle on it. Dohohohoho.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:52:31 2010 No.4681202 >>4681180 you can also note right at the end when all characters appear how Rosa 'isn't' there (she's the first, with only her head and all white)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:54:31 2010 No.4681213 >>4681202 I KNEW I missed something in this shot. If I were Ryukushi, I'd put it there, like he did with Beato's chin behind Maria in the E1 opening. Thank you kind Anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:56:31 2010 No.4681219 >>4681195 Wait I don't see- Well holee shiit. There's a slim chance that she's alive from strangulation...

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:58:31 2010 No.4681236 >>4681219 someone had to be obviously alive to kill Nanjo it's her, Hideyoshi, Krauss or Kyrie

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 12:59:31 2010 No.4681244

>>4681219
There are a lot of suspicious deaths in E3 and this is one of them.

a)disregard Devil's proof, one culprit couldn't do it.
b)The only person who went inside was Jessica and the first thing she did was pull stake from both and put it in her pocket.
c)they did not have the loops around their necks and Nanjo is a liar. Strangulation is very easily fakable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 13:01:31 2010 No.4681256 >>4681236 Seems like the only thing Battler got right in E4 tea party. Do mind that E3 is "the most beautifully set game board", though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 13:01:31 2010 No.4681257 >>4681244 Who saw their corpses again? They might have just been drugged (why??).

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 13:03:31 2010 No.4681267 >>4681256 in umineko most beautifully set=the one with thoe most number of trolls and deceptions, it had like 4-5 trolls in it >>4681257 everyone got to the rose garden thing, Nanjo checked on them, Jessica cried reason: lure the real culprit

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 13:04:31 2010 No.4681274 >>4681257 Nanjo supposedly did. Other than that, there is only Jessica's rant about how she is going to kill Beatrice, while she pulls the stakes out.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 13:29:31 2010 No.4681410

>>4681005
Kanon doesn't exist? But Battler saw him.
>>4681020
Can't see shit, cap'n. Point please.
>>4681038
How can it doesn't exist if Maria and others remembered that it does?
>>4681046
That's Virgillia's spell.
>"Come, arise, Fallen Tower. Split the single language, and make known the sin."
>The sky was stained an incandescent red, and from between the clouds, a blazing, massive tower fell upside down.
>That massive falling tower and its rubble, sucked in the thousands of ballista shots, so that not one of them approached the body of the witch who had summoned it.
>That's right, no one could approach the mysteries of heaven. That was the reality of the fallen tower.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 13:36:31 2010 No.4681444
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>>4681410 How can it doesn't exist
...
Oh well.

It's about someone in the shed being either alive or a fake. If you are new to Umineko threads. Also, note Shannon's point about the lock on the shed. Hideyoshi was the one who locked it, if I am not mistaken.

I only remember Maria saying it, though, and when it's struck down by a lighting, it really doesn't vaporize completely.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 13:46:31 2010 No.4681480

>>4681444
Oh, I see now.

Genji locked the shed:
>Genji fished around inside the storehouse, and unsealed a brand-new padlock which had been inside a small box.
...
>Genji crouched down in front of the shutter to fasten the new padlock.

About Torii:
>But, since my last memory of the scenery is from six years ago, I managed to notice before Aniki, who comes here every year.
>"............Huh...? ......If I remember correctly, wasn't there a Torii or something on top of a small crag around here? ...That's right, it was definitely there. I remember it well, since as we get closer to the island, it's the first thing to greet us, like a landmark."
>"Wow, you're amazing, Battler. Even though it's been six years, you remembered."
>"It was here, wasn't it...! I remember too. The tutelary God's shrine and that Torii-like thing had been built all alone on that crag.
>"Maybe they were washed away by the waves or something? It was a small crag, it probably got brittle because of its exposure."
>"I think so too. It probably disappeared during the summer. Whatever."
>"Or perhaps a huge lightning bolt fell one evening and smashed the shrine... ......The fisherman whisper that having a thunderbolt fall upon our honored tutelary God would be a certain sign of misfortune. ...Lightning begone, lightning begone..."
It doesn't vaporize, but it can burn, you know.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 13:49:31 2010 No.4681500

>>4681195
Natsuhi is the one who claims that Kinzo told her the one-winged eagle is engraved in her heart, but you know who truly fits that description (metaphorically, of course), and whose heart was actually shown in Episode 3? The answer should be obvious.

>>4681444
If the Torii/the shrine wasn't all that secure in the first place, it's possible that the lightning strike didn't just destroy it, but also knocked it off the peak completely.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:42:31 2010 No.4681813

I like threads like this.

In the opening to Alliance, it shows a scene with George and Shannon upside down. Then, it shows a scene with Jessica and Kanon where the screen promptly 'breaks', and goes distorted. They keep the same neutral sort of expressions they had on before the 'break', but the distortion makes their faces look definitley twisted.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:48:31 2010 No.4681853 File: 265 KB, 646x509, JessE3tips.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4681813 Jessica's creepy faces are a big topic itself.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:50:31 2010 No.4681862 >>4681853 I love how ironic the TIPs can be

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:52:31 2010 No.4681874 >>4681813 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIKjW-jfn00 It's at around 0.45.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:52:31 2010 No.4681878 >>4681853 DAT FACE WOW

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:56:31 2010 No.4681900 File: 246 KB, 645x508, Jesstrice ultimate proof.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4681878 might as well add this one, its kinda familliar.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:56:31 2010 No.4681902 >>4681120 That's Bern, isn't it? Would make sense, considering Erika's right in front of her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:56:31 2010 No.4681904 >>4681878 all characters in the TIPs die with the same face they have when they're alive

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:58:31 2010 No.4681918 >>4681120 Not sure, but it looks like it's a copy of a painting of some sort, possibly an 18th or 19th century painting. >>4681902 I'd been taking it as Erika summoning Dlanor.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:59:31 2010 No.4681927 >>4681918 it's Dlanor, the golden glow and all of that

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:59:31 2010 No.4681928 I always found it odd how at the end of the Chiru opening when they show all the characters, Kanon is next to all the fantasy characters, like the Stakes and Erika.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 14:59:31 2010 No.4681930 >>4681900 ...Dammit. It's one thing to have similar hair colors and dress in a similar style, but the "mu" face is another!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:00:31 2010 No.4681934 >>4681928 I wouldn't put it past Ryukishi to do that as a hint.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:02:31 2010 No.4681951 >>4681904 Doesn't make it any less similliar to a trollface.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:06:31 2010 No.4681973 File: 213 KB, 500x456, surashu smiru.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4681878 Problem, anon?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:08:31 2010 No.4681989 >>4681928 Go read episode 5. Natsuhi & Kanon are the only ones that interact with Kinzo before the game begins. hinthinthinthint*

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:11:31 2010 No.4682014 >>4681163 No, Battler keeps his hand in his right pocket. It reminds me of a horribly distorted Hideyoshi.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:15:31 2010 No.4682030

>>4681060
While that photo is wrong in so, so many ways, Ryu probably didn't mean anything by it. He was probably just showing a family portrait. Ange looks grown up because there is no younger!Ange sprite. Why he did it at Rokkenjima of all places though, that's questionable. Since Ange has never been there with Battler. But once again, it probably has no relevance as such.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:15:31 2010 No.4682031

>>4681989
>>4681928

I would expect Ryukishi to do something like this.

Introduce a bunch of fantasy characters one by one while showing how magic tries to make them real, then reveal that one of the characters you thought was real was a fantasy all along.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:17:31 2010 No.4682051 >>4682031 He already kind of did that with Kinzo, and at the moment Kanon seems to be the most probable candidate for that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:20:31 2010 No.4682076 >>4681149 Can't see shit captain.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:23:31 2010 No.4682097

>>4682031
And then you find out that Beatrice II from the Pony theory actually gave Kinzo seven childern at once and Kinzo tried to care for them, which couldn't be concealed even by Kawabata and she had to die The childern live with wolves in the forest which is why their initially frilly identical victorian clothes are severly torn by now.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:26:31 2010 No.4682122

>>4682051
>>4682051

Yes, there is obviously something wrong with the name Kanon or the person we think of as Kanon doesn't exist. I mean how does a detective not find the same body in 4 episodes?

The problem I have is Kinzo we know was a real person, however how do we know Kanon was never a person to begin with?

And there's definitely something wrong with Shannon too. You can never trust the nice docile maid with the unknown traumatic past.

I bet ryu read tsukihime.

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>>	Anonymous of Manila !!1gI4uJox3s7 Sat Mar 20 15:29:31 2010 No.4682140 Why so mad image dumper?

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:30:31 2010 No.4682151 >>4682141 >>4682137 >>4682134 >>4682130 >>4682123 >>4682116 >>4682111 >>4682109 >>4682103 How do you post empty posts? also >>4681027 This always pissed me off because I wanted a Virgilia portait, fucking Ryu

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:31:31 2010 No.4682159 >>4682122 I truly and honestly believe that they end up being two different people, but there will be some complicated shit going on in their background. I really don't feel like thinking about ShKanon too much, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:31:31 2010 No.4682163 >>4682151 Virgilia was never a main witch this ep we can expect a Bern portrait (I hope so), maybe also a Featherine one

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http://tanasinn.web.infoseek.co.jp/tanasinn.wma Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:38:31 2010 No.4682210

Imagine you are having terrible nightmare. It's terrible, but it's terrible only to you and no other. It's a horror custom made for you by your own mind. The content is not important, but the fear is. When you wake, you wake in a room on a bed. It is your bed, but it is not your bed. It is your room, but it is not your room. With effort, you realize you have not awoken at all, but are still asleep and have dreamed of an awakening. The question remains if you are to wake and be greeted with reality, should you get out of bed or go back to sleep. You decide to do both, and you fall backward through the bed as the sheets envelop your body. It's dark, but it's not dark. You're awake, but you're not awake. You are dead and being cremated. As flames disintegrate your flesh, a scream echos through your mind but not does not escape your lips which, even if you could speak, have been glued shut. You black out once more, and awaken at dawn. As the mingled ashes of bone and oak are scattered on a beach by the one you've left behind, you finally understand:

You are not the ashes of the man, you are the ashes of coffin. You were not a man dreaming of life, but a tree dreaming you were a man.

This awakening, this epiphany... this is tanasinn.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:39:19 2010 No.4682220 Dohohoho, are you out of colors yet, spammerfag? You know even if you try hard you can't win. I, OP here, am actually an attention whore, so you can't hurt me like this.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:45:31 2010 No.4682267 May I ask you something? The names of you modcat pics are quite long numbers, I get it that you downloaded it all from another thread, right? Well, that must feel bad being a double copypasta spammer, man.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:48:31 2010 No.4682289 >>4682267 If that was an attempt to insult KoG, I don't think it will work.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:53:31 2010 No.4682338 >>4682289 He's posting red now, I'm sure that he mad.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:02:31 2010 No.4682397 As an image spammer KoG has no honor. At least with Jones he knows when to stop once it starts wasting the meido's time.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:02:31 2010 No.4682399 >>4682267 Good work talking to a wipe bot.

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Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:25:31 2010 No.4682523

>>4682163
I kind of see the ShKanon portrait coming, but Rosa one is also possible.

>>4682122
Yes, that's the "Kanon or Shannon is dead since the start of each game" theory. And it does work out.

>>4682097
And they will demand Battler to call them Seven Aunts of Purgatory.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:31:31 2010 No.4682552 >>4681973 >>4681900 Yeah, Jessica's sketchy. But she's also a gigantic moralfag. Could mean she's involved, but in a good way. Also, that FUCKING FACE.

>>	Anonymous of Manila !!1gI4uJox3s7 Sat Mar 20 16:32:31 2010 No.4682559 >>4682397 >At least with Jones he knows when to stop Ahahahah

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:34:31 2010 No.4682566 >>4682552 She's at the very least OUT OF HER FUCKING MIND. Seriously, she's playing a gigantic game of pretend with her best friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:35:31 2010 No.4682570 >>4682566 Assuming SHkannon or the scenes are even reliable concerning actual dialogue.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:40:31 2010 No.4682595 >>4682566 Three biggest trolls on that island are Jessica, Kyrie, and Rosa. And of course Shkanontrice, but plot devices don't count as people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:43:31 2010 No.4682612 >>4682595 Really, with Jessica, I've kind of just thrown my hands up. Her characterization is as pure as a dove, and yet, she seems to be right in the middle of this bullshit. So, whatever, I'll see.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:50:31 2010 No.4682655

>>4682595
Well, let's base the reasoning on this: >>4681077 >>4681072

Natsuhi is the only person on the island whose motives do we know fairly well already.
When she chases everyone out of the study, she is in control, she knows that Beato won't kill her and she genuinely protects Jessica.
She might even know about Kanon being still alive, because, after all, she lets Jessica and Nanjo alone with his body even though she is normally keeping Jessica by her side. She does not even say a thing when it becomes obvious that there was something between her daughter and a servant.
However, when Maria called or shortly after that she completely lost any control that she had over what was happening.
Same goes for Kyrie. She cares for her family, searches for the culprit and lets the real Beatrice do what she does until it's too late.
Rosa, well, you can't really suspect anyone who dies so often of being too mysterious. But there is still a lot of things about E2, like how she knew that Jessica is in her room before Genji even told her.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:56:31 2010 No.4682684 >>4682655 the only person on the island God I am tired. I meant "the only Milf on the island"

>>	Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL Sat Mar 20 17:12:31 2010 No.4682754 >>4682655 >"how she knew that Jessica is in her room before Genji even told her." She did?

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:29:31 2010 No.4682839

>>4682754
Yep. Genji said that Jessica went to her room with Kanon, then they talked a bit, then Rosa comes and says something like "I don't feel good about all this, let's go see Jessica in her room".
But there is just so much things that point against her that you just have to wonder about where are the red herrings in E2.

To sum up the most important clues, the key of the chapel never left her hands, the master keys never left her hands. And the most important of all is the way she acts towards Genji - whenever she suspects servants, she always takes it out on Kanon, Shannon or Kumasawa and never talks about Genji. When she chases him out of the room she even apologizes. Then he comes back, and is like "Hey, Rosa-sama, suddenly six people are dead and there is nobody left other than me, what are we gonna do about it?" And Rosa says "Okay Genji, thanks for the good work" and minutes later she chases Battler out.
Note that Genji scolds Maria twice and puts a blanket over her, saying something like "you poor thing". Though he can't be her husband, really.

On the other hand, Jessica's death is damn suspicious and also the only one there that is actually realy dubious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:35:42 2010 No.4682870 >>4682867 Rapemaster

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:38:31 2010 No.4682887 >>4682839 Telling you man, lesbian conspiracy. Kyrie is a lesbian, Jessica is a lesbian, Rosa is a lesbian. They commit crime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:38:42 2010 No.4682882 Post more hetero scenes

>>	Trollkastel !!YSTYW7Om7uL Sat Mar 20 17:39:31 2010 No.4682891 >>4682839 I think you forgot Rosa vouching for Kinzo being in the room, her using the words 'furniture' and even an ahaha.wav too IIRC.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:39:42 2010 No.4682893 >>4682574 >>4682608 didn't you just upload the same scene twice?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:40:42 2010 No.4682899 >>4682893 While they do share a few animations, they are different(and one is twice as big)

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:43:14 2010 No.4682916 Isn't there a Nanami scene in SD where she gets raped by Makoto?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:43:31 2010 No.4682918 >>4682887 Jessica's a good lesbian. I think. She's up to something good, I suppose...

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:48:31 2010 No.4682950

>>4682839
>Rosa: "Father was alright, but he was slightly distracted by these sudden events. ...Fortunately, he said that he won't leave his room, so he's probably safe. Now, we should do all we can to gather in the same place."
>Nanjo, Kumasawa: "......I agree with Rosa-san. It is probably good for us to gather in one place."
>"Yes, yes, I also think that is good, yes, yes!"
>Gohda: ".........Maybe it would be good to call Milady and Kanon-san here by now."
...
>We headed for Jessica's room, with Rosa oba-san, holding the gun, and Genji-san in the lead.
Though there is a possibility that they might have killed Jessica during their "time in the study", I don't see these particular lines as very suspicious.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:50:31 2010 No.4682968 >>4682950 Jessica's room in episode two is either Jessica HERSELF playing shenanigans, or Kanon iceing her via PERSONA. The latter is far more likely.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:52:31 2010 No.4682987 >>4682968 >PERSONA Oh god, someone needs to make a comic of Shannon shooting herself in the head.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:55:31 2010 No.4682998 >>4682950 Sorry, somehow I was sure of this point. It's still strange though that she does not question... gah, whatever, it bacame moot. >>4682891 Yes, thank you. Also, as for Jessica, the 'corpses' thingy, too lazy to search for a ref pic.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:58:31 2010 No.4683017 >>4683008 Yes, thank you, bro.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:00:31 2010 No.4683025 JESSICA? I LIKED HER BETTER WHEN SHE WAS CALLED RED HERRING

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:02:31 2010 No.4683033 File: 16 KB, 256x353, laughingelfman.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4683025 >Implying Shannon and Kanon weren't fuck obvious culprits from the beginning

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:06:31 2010 No.4683058 >>4683033 Doubletrice bro here, Shannon-Beato is the slutty murdering Beato, Jessica-Beato is pure. You may laugh at us now, but it is us who shall have the final laugh.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:08:31 2010 No.4683065 >>4683058 BROFIST DOUBLETRICE 4 LYFE

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:08:31 2010 No.4683069 >>4683058 Whoever wins, the story fucking sucks.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:09:31 2010 No.4683073

>>4683008
It's not accurate comparison. In ep5 Erika NEVER actually saw any corpses (except maybe Hideyoshi's). Corpses' locations were not confirmed by red. Those things in guest house were covered by blankets stained by some ketchup, so it was possible to apply that blue truth of Ronove, that it was actually not corpses at all.
But in ep2 situation is different. Corpse of Jessica was observed by detective and its location confirmed by red. So it's definitely a corpse, and a corpse of Jessica.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:09:31 2010 No.4683075 >>4683058 >Shannon >Slut As if the fact that she was going to be married to GEORGE didn't tip you off! But interesting concept, an innocent Beatrice would be pretty cool, yeah.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:11:31 2010 No.4683085 >>4683058 can't it be kanon-Beato? I'd wish Shannon was dead fromn the beginning and kanon was just impersonating her

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:12:31 2010 No.4683099 >>4683073 >and a corpse of Jessica. and Jessica's corpse, it's not the exact same

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:15:31 2010 No.4683113 >>4683085 Kanon and Jessica are bro tier. George is creepy virgin tier, and Shannon is slut tier. Course, Jessica could just be sociopathic bitch tier, also.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:17:31 2010 No.4683134 >>4683113 Jessica is a bro. A bro who is involved in a ton of bullshit, but I'm sure she's doing it for Battler's good, right? ...right? ;_;

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>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:18:31 2010 No.4683140 >>4683134 Sure, Rudolf needed a stake in the head after all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:19:31 2010 No.4683145 >>4683140 SILLY MOON-CHAN. THAT'S NOT RUDOLF'S PENIS.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:22:31 2010 No.4683162 >>4683134 She's just a girl that likes Kanon. Easy enough to understand. Sadly, Kanon is her best friend AND a witch. WACKY SHENANIGANS were inevitable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:29:31 2010 No.4683191 >>4683008 >Furthermore, those corpses were witnessed by a large number of people!! or d) those corpses, I mean real dead bodies of the cousins and Rosa, actually were witnessed by a large number of people. Maybe even they were the ones who killed them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:29:31 2010 No.4683192 >>4681900 DAT FUCKING MU FACE GODDAMN YOU RYUKUSHI

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:33:31 2010 No.4683201 Shannon = V13, Jessica = Noel. Y/N?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:36:31 2010 No.4683221 >>4683201 Nah, Jessica is BANG SHISHIGAMI, DEFENDER OF JUSTICE! She even has the freaking FIRE FISTS, for JUSTICE'S sake!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 00:02:31 2010 No.4685517 bampu

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