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A place for discussion of Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON works.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - WITCH ON THE HOLY NIGHT
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2052410/WITCH_ON_THE_HOLY_NIGHT/
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru Short Story):
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/An-Adventure-of-First-Love.html
Witch on the Holy Night Material
https://tri-hermes.org/Materials/The_Magicians_Basic_Rhythm.html

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novels (Japanese):
https://yonde.itazuraneko.org/novelhtml/12276.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novels (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime Complete Pack (Tsukihime, PLUS+DISC, Kagetsu Tohya):
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3874450
Tsukihime OG Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1591168
Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn
Tsukihime Plus Period - Talk
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/talk.html
Tsukihime II Prelude
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/prelude.html

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Patch:
https://tsukihimates.com

>MELTY BLOOD: Hologram Summer, Night on the Blood Liar.
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (Original + ReACT + Act Cadenza + Actress Again Current Code):
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MELTY BLOOD Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
MELTY BLOOD - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]
https://nyaa.si/view/1691072
Fate/hollow ataraxia
https://nyaa.si/view/1732011
Fate/Zero (Japanese)
https://pastebin.com/33E3XfDB
Garden of Avalon
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/GoA.html

>Fate/EXTRA
Fate/EXTRA
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hack/
Fate/EXTRA CCC
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-ccc-jpn/

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/notes.html
Clock Tower 2015:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/clocktower2015.html
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Tsuki no Sango - Coral of the Moon:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/tsuki-no-sango.html
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
BAMBOO BROOM DIARY (Nasu and Takeuchi blog)
https://tri-hermes.org/bamboo.html
Carnival Phantasm (Anime made in celebration of Type-Moon's 10th anniversary)
https://nyaa.si/view/550820
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Materials
https://tri-hermes.org/materials.html
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca

>> No.46739240

First for Akiha

>> No.46743319
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>> No.46752041

Bump lol

>> No.46752674

>>46739240
Good for her

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OK this is a shitty /r/ and also necrobump but this screencap is nowhere to be found anymore except on some oldfag's HDD and this is probably the best place to ask. Someone post this Satsuki screencap please. Thanks.

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Does anyone have Page 4?

>> No.46770775

Nasu just spoiler Mahoyo and Alice real identity

>1999: Only one person died in that Singularity. As mentioned in her profile, Alice can't die no matter what. Soujuurou already knew that at the time, so he went to the mountain to retrieve Alice's body, which he figured would be in suspended animation. Later, he came across that scene and decided that with his support, Aoko could solve the problem, consequently saving Alice.

>> No.46771070

Mahoyo 6 soon bros

>> No.46771497

>Nasu skipped Mahoyo 2, 3, 4, and 5 and jumped directly to 6

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>>46738987
Arcueid is a menace who must be stopped.

>> No.46771919

>>46771497
We should've seen this coming when he said he loved Danganronpa V3 a few years ago

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>> No.46772740

>>46771070
Mahoyo 6 was the event according to Nasu.
So we confirmed Shirou is born in Ryogi's generation Mahoyoworld?

>> No.46772746

>>46732407
>This appears to just be FGO's world and not necessarily the future or even past of Mahoyo's characters.
The collabs have nothing to do with "FGO world" you ignorant retard. It's always their original setting. Or brought into a singularity in FGO from that world. But in this case is the former. It's Mahoyo 6 according to Nasu.

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Now admittedly I got to this scene 30 seconds after booting the game again for the first time in probably over 3 months but this girl looks like she isn't even from the same game design wise compared to my memory of the others

>> No.46774956

>>46774874
Granted if she's a god that would explain it
I thought the whole pig thing came from a witch but that might be my memory being shody

>> No.46775051

>>46774956
She does fucking call herself a witch

>> No.46775289

>>46774874
Wow they really threw me in the deep end up with the next boss right after I pick the game back up, and of course if you die it resets your spells again so you have to change them again if you want them off what they were before the fight started why are devs still doing this shit

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>> No.46775638

red garden doko

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>>46770775
>Alice can't die no matter what
Are you sure about that?

>> No.46775964

>>46774874
Is this kusoge actually fun?
I might give it a try after all the DLCs are out

>> No.46775984

>>46775964
I know fuck all about fate besides where I am up to in the game and I think it's pretty fun

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>> No.46776294

>>46776044
She's pure sex

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>> No.46777009

Imoutos are made to be mogged by white women

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>>46777009

>> No.46777086

>>46777040
Being Akiha is suffering

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>>46753479
The text in the screencap was posted last thread, but I can post it again for you.

Tohno-kun's eyes are shiny with tears. Perhaps it's true then, that we hurt people we like the most. I never really meant to bite him, but instincts have taken over my thoughts. I guess I really am a monster, after all. Still, I've lived, and dreamed for this day, and now that it has come, I wouldn't have it any other way.

The knife has done its work well. There's hardly any pain at all, but I can feel the life
slowly flowing out of me. I have had everything taken away from me - my humanity, my love, my life. But I have this moment, the day Tohno-kun smiled for me, said he liked me, and I gave it all up, to give him happiness. And nothing can take that away from me.

And so, that's why I can answer you, and say...

No, it isn't sad, it isn't sad at all...

>> No.46777188

>>46777009
Arc fans shut the fuck up challenge (impossible)

>> No.46777305

>>46772746
>Shirou who goes on Fate like adventures and dream Void
>Double Singularity and time travel.
>original setting
You're the ignorant retard if you take a hyperbolic "It's Mahoyo 6" literally.

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>>46777086

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Don't talk bad things about Akiha...
Not my Akiha...

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>> No.46777583

sex with archer

>> No.46777943

>>46777510
Let's ignore Arcueid being a seething bitch in Ciels route, let's ignore Kohaku killing herself because you chose her sister but no le only Akiha is a cuck.

>> No.46777980

>>46777943
it's a joke you autist

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>>46777943
It's funny when it happens to Akiha.

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>>46777980
>>46777991
Shut the fuck up your sub 90 iq basic bitch Arcueid fan. "Oooooh look at me I like the most vanilla heroine with nothing interesting going on because she's the first and acts dumb!!!"
Oooooh Nasu sucks her dick so much and gives her super duper special treatment just because he's a hack who thinks le first heroine = canon one

>> No.46779112

>>46777943
i am an akihabro btw but i also like bullying her

>> No.46779134

>>46779106
calm down

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>>46779106
>Shut the fuck up your sub 90 iq basic bitch Arcueid fan
How dare you, I'm a Ciel enjoyer. I'll bully Akiha even more now just to spite you.

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>> No.46779168

>>46779106
u mad

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Not only does Akiha have small boobs. She also has a flat ass. No wonder Shiki had no feelings for her. All the other heroines are better in everyway.

>> No.46779526

Actual previous thread: >>46737946.

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i normally prefer curvier girls but i find akiha erotic

>> No.46779532

>>46774776
Well, FSN had a male MC, and nothing you mention happened...

>> No.46779626

>>46779526
That one's not canon

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>>46779626
Why do you say that?

>> No.46779727

>>46763471
https://danbooru.donmai.us/pools/773

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>> No.46780359

>Shiki got her family in the gacha while everyone else got “he is not him btw” moment
She won

>> No.46780467

Foursome between Shiki, Miyako, Mio and Akiha

>> No.46780493

>>46780035
She's showing too much skin.

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Threesome between Shiki, Miyako and DA Noel

>> No.46780502

>>46780493
Sony employee, please go away.

>> No.46780684

What happen to the True Ancestor in Fate world?

>> No.46780728

>>46780684
Since there aren't any DAAs I imagine the rebellion against them was significantly less successful. Also, they probably don't exist in Fate/Extra worlds because the Moon Cell replaces Crimson Moon as TYPE.

>> No.46780807

>>46780728
I thought the lack of DAA was an Alaya thing?

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>> No.46780927

>>46780807
Nasu said there was something in TsukiR that explains the change so you can assume it's the result of CM doing something (like making Idea Blood).
>>46780728
It likely didn't succeed at all since only DAA were beyond the reach of the TA. DA in Fate are probably different all around and never escaped slavery and become recognized as a new existence. There probably isn't even a "development/ranking system" in Fate and certainly "Greater DA" can't be equivalent to a VII in Tsuki as that requires DAA and presumably having won their "freedom" in the past.

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how do i attain this physique?

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>> No.46781178

>>46780989
1. Spend years in the mountain.
2. Ignore the haters.
>The sea forgives all. Not like those mean old mountains. I hate them so much.

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>have 3 love interests
>all of them have homosexual tendencies
Why?

>> No.46781192

>>46781188
all girls are bi, some just don't know it yet

>> No.46781203

>>46781192
Even if that was the case, we're talking about works of fiction.

>> No.46781225

>>46781203
I was half-joking, I don't believe it to be even half IRL
but in fiction, it's very common for girls to be bi
an unwritten rule
why, I'm not sure
probably just blanket stereotyping
maybe significantly more common than bi men
maybe women are less afraid of showing it than men are (perhaps for good reason)

>> No.46781231

>>46781225
OK.

>> No.46781508

>>46777305
Which again has NOTHING to do with FGO, idiot.
It's the future of Mahoyo. Whether you like it or not.
Since you know that's what is collabaring with. None of that shit exists in FGO.

>> No.46781514

>>46780728
>Fate/Extra worlds because the Moon Cell replaces Crimson Moon as TYPE.
It was probably like that from the beginning.

>> No.46781557

>>46781203
>>46781225
It's a multifaceted issue in literature, but if we're being honest here there are three reasons why it happens in the case here. Sex can be written to show the kind of connections (loving & friendly, or... worse) between characters, or because the author already had some smutty topics in their work and must go further. Scope creep. Just like everything else with a threadbare resemblance to a plotline, pr0n must start small and simple, then escalate to more impactful or exciting avenues.
There's also something to be said for the raw horniness of the writers, but It's really suboptimal tugging the turnip to a combination of text and images. If you have just text, you can see the scenario in any way you want inside your head as you read it. If it's just an image, well, go on and expound your thoughts on the matter while you're staring at some ink or pixels. But a combination of text and pictures? Eh...

>> No.46781566

I'll just say that birds of a feather flock together.

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>> No.46781650

>>46781609
Still unbeaten Arc design.

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>> No.46783342

Why is Archer so hot
Why do women want him
Why do men want to be him

>> No.46783374

>>46783342
I don't want to be Archer, he hates himself.

>> No.46783574

>>46783374
>he hates himself.
Don't you already?

>> No.46783589

>>46783342
Name one woman he fucked
>inb4 Ciel or Saber

>> No.46783809

I think Miyako is the best, all others girls can't compete unless they are lolis too

>> No.46784055

>>46783589
Female Hakuno, dumb fujo/faggot.

>> No.46784416

>>46783589
>Ciel
another reason why the world split was a good decision

>> No.46784427

>>46784055
That’s nameless’s girl

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>>46738987
Funny how this thread actually survived

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>> No.46784995

>>46783342
Concentrated GAR energy

>> No.46785028

>>46781508
Forget Zero? Or even the event where they say stuff that only makes sense if it's FGO or fanfiction(which it is)? It's not possible within Mahoyo is the point. Maybe some of the characters end up with similar fates or not but the ones we see in Mahoyo won't have been the ones who encountered this event in the same way Void here is not from KnK despite the KnK references. Explain how Aoko even reaches the place on her own at the end?

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>> No.46785390

>>46785028
>Explain how Aoko even reaches the place on her own at the end?
This. It's pretty clearly established Aoko cannot travel between parallel worlds. Shit's not her domain.

>> No.46785462

>>46785034
>is Japanese
>looks like a sandnigger
Y Tho

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>>46785462
It's a common theme

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>>46783589

>> No.46786029

>>46738987
>Zepia only goes insane in Tsuki timelines because there’s no hope at all
>Stays sane in Fate timeline
Tsuki is a pruned timeline

>> No.46786051

>>46784416
Yeah to keep that dumb poo wanna-be away from my husband

>> No.46786053

>>46784416
This is just a case of early onset gachatard syndrome where fatefags think any interaction means intimacy.

>> No.46786056

>>46786029
go back to /vg/ and never comeback

>> No.46786058

>>46785462
That's what practicing Magecraft and committing war crimes in the middle east does tp you

>> No.46786066

Speaking of the world split, can Goatia exist/do his thing in Tsukihime worlds?

>> No.46786115

>Original Tsukihime wasn't even 1/4th of my true vision!
>*makes TsukiR*
>This is my true vision!
>*it's literally just half-assed and unfinished and only includes 2 of 6 routes*

What went wrong?

>> No.46786162

>>46786115
Putting words into Nasu's mouth.

>> No.46786171

>>46786115
>sold 300k with only the jp release
>more or less acknowledged as one of the few modern kamige
you tell us what went wrong

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>> No.46786209

>>46786029
Did you miss the entire point of MB series including MBBAN?

>> No.46786216

>>46786066
They failed because of willy wonka and Arc could probably just merc him through time if they cared to..

>> No.46786247

>>46785462
>>46785929
Why is AMWF so common in Nasu's works? Where are the Japanese waifus?

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>>46786171
>sold 300k with only the jp release
>more or less acknowledged as one of the few modern kamige

When are we getting TsukiR manga? Will they bring back BASED Sasaki Shonen?

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>> No.46786401

how do you pass each day knowing there's no new TM content for years down the line. Do you satiate your thirst with fgo or just forget this IP exists

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>>46786401
I indulge in my other hobbies while I wait.

>> No.46786459

>>46786401
I just read other VNs and LNs. The only thing I care about at this point from Type-Moon is Red Garden. Oh and I guess I technically follow Adventures but that series has been a disappointment.

>> No.46786469

>>46786401
I hang around tmg, the best general on earth.

>> No.46786542

>>46786401
i open fgo once every 6 months for the main quests or otherwise just forget about all and read/play mangas and gaems
this trickling amount of content is really sad thou. Nasu is 50 and at most he has 15 years of content making left until he retires. His entire legacy, for now, consists of stories he wrote in his early 20s. I wish he would work on something brand new. Then again Tolkien published the lotr trilogy in his 60s

>> No.46786559

>>46786029
Yes, because Crimson Moon returns in Tsukihime and erases humanity out of existence. That same future where humanity went extinct is shown in MBBAN manga, where Sacchin was still around except every human disappeared along with her vampiric urges.
CM just got a handle of the system of the world and erased humanity. CM/Arc is in charge of pruning in TsukiR verse.

>> No.46786685

>>46786066
Arc mentioned the Ancient "I" failed in MBAA.

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>>46786401
>>46786459
>>46786542
>>46786559
How long have you been waiting?

>> No.46787139

>>46787074
>>Mahou tsukai no yoru
>>- Art by Koyama Hirokazu
>>- Game slated for release 2009, possibly at the start of 2009
>>- For all ages
>>- Most of the story will be the same as the original
>>- It’s all-ages because they did not want to change the original story just for ero scenes

>>Tsukihime
>>- All the art will be redrawn from the ground up again.
>>- Release will be after Mahou tsukai no yoru
>>- Satsuki is introduced as one of the 6 main heroines of the game
>>- Not decided if it will be 18+ or all ages, or if it’ll have voices

GET HYPED

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>> No.46787165

>>46787074
The anons in the pic are in their late 30s or early 40s. They probably have families now and forgot all about this stuff. I was 6 in 2008.

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>>46787165
>They probably have families now and forgot all about this stuff.

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Please consider:
Rider

>> No.46787197

>>46787165
>I was 6 in 2008.

Young Anon...

The original slated releases at the time were:

Kara no Kyoukai (1998) -> Tsukihime (2000) -> Kagetsu (2001) -> Melty Blood (2002) -> FSN (2004) -> FHA (2005) -> FZ (2006) -> DDD (2007) -> Mahoyo (early 2009) - > Nasu finishes up DDD -> Tsukihime Remake work begins and/or is release (late 2009) -> Mahoyo Chapter 2 work begins

Instead we got Mahoyo in 2012, Nasu never finished DDD, Tsukihime Remake (2 of 6 routes) in 2021, and Mahoyo 2 is now in FGO

Fate was considered milked to death after EXTRA/CCC

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>>46787197
What went so terribly wrong?

>> No.46787227

>>46787213
2008 - Girls Work, Tsukihime Remake and Mahoutsukai no Yoru trilogy announcement
2010 - Fate/Extra
2010 - Mahoyo (part 1 of 3) and Fate/stay night UBW movie
2012 - Fate/Apocrypha and Fate/stay night Realta Nua for PSV
2013 - Fate/Extra CCC
2014 - Fate/hollow ataraxia for PSV and Fate/stay night UBW anime
2015 - FGO
2016 - FGO and Fate/Extella
2017 - FGO
2018 - FGO, Fate/Extra: Last Encore and Fate/Extella Link
2019 - FGO
2020 - FGO
2021 - TsukiR (2 of 6 routes) and Fate/stay night UBW manga
2022 - Don't worry we haven't forgotten about Red Garden!
2023 - FGO
2024 - FGO and Fate/stay night REMASTERED for PS4
2025 - FGO
2026 - FGO
2027 - FGO
2028 - FGO

>What is 『Fate』 to TYPE-MOON?

Nasu: 5 years ago we said that "this will not go beyond one product," but even saying TYPE-MOON now is just another word for 『Gundam』. It just keeps changing forms and moving forward. That’s not to say we’re just artificially extending it, of course. 『Fate/EXTRA』 was a good test for us. It was fun to write, and fun to make. If the players also enjoys it then it’s a Win-Win, is it not?

Takeuchi: As a product I do feel like it has grown much more than I expected. Whenever we said that 『Fate』 was over and done with, it would refuse to die. I suppose it’s only natural to love and revere something that you have spent so much time cultivating and being so fulfilled by, and to become so attached to it. I don’t mean to be obsessive, but I do want to treat this with utmost care, as we have done up until this point.

Nasu: This is for us what 『Final Fantasy』 is for Square Enix. On a way smaller scale, of course!

Takeuchi: I know you may sometimes think "Not another 『Fate』!" but even "another" 『Fate』 game wouldn’t be 『Fate』 at all.

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>>46786401

make taipu muun memes

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>>46784593

this is the first sfw alice that turned me on strange

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>>46787213
Everything went wrong when the USSR didn't win

>> No.46787245

>>46787163
Would I pet this cat? Yes, yes I would.

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>>46787241
Archer is Slav?

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>>46787245
I would rather pet this cat.

>> No.46787338

>>46787074
Not that long personally. I think I played the OG for the first time in 2012 or so.

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>>46787178
thru xitter you can see people tweeting about 月姫 back in 07 and latter. And these accounts are still actively involved with weeb shit. It's weirdly comforting. Like it's ok for me to keep enjoying this stuff for 10 or more years. I don't have to grow out of it.
God this century is going to be super weird when we will have grandpas getting hyped for the next chuuni shit.

>> No.46787389

>>46787074
Since 2009. Not as bad as the anon in the screencap.

>> No.46787460

>>46786255
Oh boy because what we need is yet another retelling of the Arc route right. Like she doesn't get her dick sucked enough

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>>46787339
>God this century is going to be super weird when we will have grandpas getting hyped for the next chuuni shit.
I'm going to be that grandpa. I don't think I'll ever grow out of this shit. I just love this stuff too much.

>> No.46787520

>>46787339
>>46787389
>>46787473
Why did Nasu take so long with the remake?

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>>46787520
Have you seen Nasu fans?

>> No.46787812

>>46786401
TM is overrated. Trust me you'll be happier by trying other VNs and seeing that TM has an unearned reputation because it rides off FGO and Ufotables back.

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>>46787812
The only VN companies that get somewhat close to Type-Moon in terms of raw kino power are Nitroplus and Azarashisoft.

>> No.46787842

>>46787812
>>46787823
Why didn't Type-Moon collaborate with more VN devs like they did with Nitroplus and Zero?

>> No.46787850

>>46787520
I wish I also wasn't aware of fgo.

>> No.46787855

>>46787339
VN readers are already skewing older and older anon.

>> No.46787862

>>46787812
Are you joking. Type-Moon VNs are S class chuuni kino. Only Light and Nitroplus are able to have the same level of energy in my experience.

>> No.46787916

>>46785462
>he forgot about Detroit Shirou

>> No.46787926

>>46786401
I just save picture of Arc and Saber in my spare time. That or using that UBW mod in Skyrim

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>> No.46788350

>>46787473
>talked to my uncle the other day who is like in his 60s these days and he still gets hype for old anime shit like speed racer
it's in our blood. when you're a weeb, you're weeb for life.

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>> No.46788370

>>46786255
Ciel deserves the UBW treatment. UBW, for example, is a 26 episode series, but technically has the rune time of 30 23 minute episodes.

DEEN Fate was 24 episodes long

DEEN UBW was 90 minutes long lol

Zero is a 25 episode series but the ending was rushed

Apocrypha is a 25 episode series but trying to fit into 25 episodes really screwed it over big time

HF should have been a 26 episode series but was rushed out into 3 movies. HF needed like an extra 30 minutes per movie. Lancer and Assassin fought in a highway and blew up a truck.

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>> No.46788460

>>46788362
I love cheeky Arc.

>> No.46788484

>>46788347
I'm not marrying the cat

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>>46788484
Are you sure?

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>> No.46788837

How does it feel knowing that you will be in your 40s by the time Red Garden is out?

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How is Rider allowed to be so hot in the UBW manga?

>> No.46788924

>>46788906
rider is pure sex
only way she could be more sex is if she was taller
like 6'4"

>> No.46788928

>>46788906
not hampered by Takuechi's inability to draw women with full figures.

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Would Ben 10 solo the nasuverse? Discuss

>> No.46789156

>>46787812
What vns?

>> No.46789176

>>46789086
post fgo? no

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>have 5 love interests
>one of them likes the butt of one of the other love interests, and in her Vampiro del Rojo form she is constantly horny for her in the fighting spin-off series
>one of them has no problem licking and fingering her own sister, and lets her female boss to drink blood from her breasts and lick her nipple with a smile
>one of them is the sister mentioned above, who doesn't really mind the treatement mentioned before
>the other one is the female boss also mentioned above, and also has the hots for her kouhai
Why?

>> No.46789282

Who are you quoting?

>> No.46789304

I love Saber.
She is the only woman for me.
I will keep drawing her for the rest of my life.
My noble phantasm would be dedicated to her only

>> No.46789365

>>46789304
Takeuchi pls.

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>> No.46789472

gay tranny janny removing an awesome Ben 10 question

>> No.46789474

>>46789365
How does Takeuchi’s wife feel knowing that she will never beat King Arthur place in Takeuchi heart?

>> No.46789501

>>46785028
>Forget Zero?
Why are you bringing up Zero? That was a Singularity in FATE/ZERO world specifically. Not FGO. There was no 4th Grail War in FGO at all.

>>46785390
Because she created a singularity and since FGO world is mega fucked, it gets detected by it. SAME as Accel Zero which, i repeated, did NOT happen in FGO. Waver and Roman even explain that shit.
The difference with Mahoyo and Accel Zero collab is that Accel Zero was an AU for Waver to live his fantasy "fix it" while Mahoyo was a Singularity caused by an event in Mahoyo's future, not related to anyone establishing fantasy.

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>> No.46789512

>>46785034
>Middle East girl has white skin
>japanese boy has brown skin
Nasu?

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>> No.46789581

>>46789501
The singularity is gone at the end. Just stop coping. Zero was fanfiction of fanfiction.

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AawaeAcD-fo

LMAO

>> No.46790950

>>46789657
they should kiss

>> No.46791135

>>46789474
She uses her holy grail during mana transfer to remind Takeuchi that Saber will never be able to make him feels as good since they're worlds apart. Takeuchi then cries in a corner after the session and copes by drawing endless Saber faces.

>> No.46791186

post pictures of archer

>> No.46791554

if you don’t post pictures of archer your mom will die in her sleep tonight

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>>46789197
Bitches are crazy, anon. I'm surprised Shiki didn't become gay after all the bullshit those girls put him through.

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>> No.46791757

>>46791135
T. Nasu

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>>46791554
I hate you

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>>46791554
fabled

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>> No.46793169

>>46790698
UUUUUUNNNNNNGHHHHHHHHHHH

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>> No.46793220

>>46790698
God, I love big boobs so much.

>> No.46793237

Alice explains her ploys are like Aesc's fairytale magecraft, or an application of it. But we literally see nothing of that, it's just a fucking line in Tonelico's lines. Is it a witch thing? If I recall Beryl would have had something similar if they had programmed his fight.

>> No.46793254

>>46793237
Beryl had something called "Slack Snark" and a RM based on the Red Riding Hood. He's also the child of the "Witch of the End."

He's got a good lore, but he was wasted as a character.

>> No.46793438

>>46793237
I think Alice's line are saying two different things. Her ploys are similar to X but they're Y and Y is an application of the first.

>> No.46793484

>>46788496
Only the black one

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>>46791554
Hope you like it

>> No.46793804

>>46793510
Hnnnnng~

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>>46791554
Love yourself.

>> No.46794551

>>46790698
Aoko milk

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>> No.46795404

>>46795356
What a cute little dummy.

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>>46791554

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the look of disapproval

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>> No.46795791

I hate Archer.

>> No.46795829

can you guys turn the gay a little down

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>> No.46796098

>>46796091
Finally, some good fucking food.

>> No.46796116

>>46796098
It's not straight shit, tho.

>> No.46796122

>>46796116
It's still gay, yes, but I would much rather watch two girls have sex.

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>What is he to me?----Arihiko is just a classmate. What else does he look like?"

>"Oh, so you refer to 'just' your friend by his first name, Nii-san?"
>Akiha looks at me unhappily.
>"Look, does it matter if I refer to him by his last name or his first name? Why are you hung up on that all of a sudden?"

>"My, you have no awareness, Nii-san. Maybe for women, but it is not normal for two boys to refer to each other like that. Unless they were brothers or relatives―"
>"Eh----well, maybe you're right."
>―― Even I tilt my head to the side as I think about it.
>But since the very beginning, I've always called him "Arihiko". Besides, we've known each other so long it isn't that odd.

>"Well, there is another case. Don't tell me you have that sort of relationship with him, Nii-san?"
>"――? That sort of relationship? What do you mean?"

>I respond seriously, not understanding, but Akiha shifts her gaze.

>"―― It's nothing. I was being sarcastic but you don't seem to get it, Nii-san."
>Akiha slumps her shoulders.
>―― I start to get more and more confused.

>"----Akiha. I've known him since middle school and he has always helped me out. ―― He might not look like it, but he is a good person. I don't know what you don't like about him, but don't think bad of him."

>"――――"
>Is she not satisfied about something? Akiha starts to sulk.

>"Akiha, are you listening?"
>"Yes, I hear you! This is the first time I have ever heard you defend someone so eagerly. He really must be special to you, this school friend of yours!"

>She puffs out her chest and turns her head away.
>―― Geez. I don't know why she decided to transfer here all of a sudden. Now I don't even know what's with her.

Why is Akiha Tohno such a paranoid schizo?

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>I asked Inui-kun to call your house and tell them that you were staying with him last night. There should be no problem with that, right?
LOL, LMAO.

>> No.46796141

>>46796126
Did Akiha really think Shiki would be in a gay relationship with Arihiko? Damn, Shiki can't even hang with his bros without Akiha getting ass pain.

>> No.46796145

>>46796141
She was either projecting, or wanted to be mad no matter what.

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>>46796145
It just further drives home the fact that Akiha sees Shiki more as a object to own, rather than a brother.

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>>46796126
She's sheltered ojousama who writes fanfics. What do you expect

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>Right, so I'm gonna get some grub.
This line reminded me of that infamous commercial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-T3qKl6y-c

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>Dead people can't be alive!
Kek.

>> No.46796258

>>46793438
Maybe. The line is confusing, also because we literally know NOTHING of Aesc's fairytale magecraft aside that exists. Her animations are the water mirror stuff.

>> No.46796366

>>46796157
>You have Arcueid, Nii-san. She's beautiful, and her body, too... extremely appealing...
What did Akiha mean by this?

>> No.46796580

>>46796366
Breast envy. In her fic Shiki loves her dfc.

>> No.46796673

>>46796126
it's a genetic thing

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>> No.46797006

>>46796187
Shirou and Shiki would be friend.

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>> No.46798640

>>46797006
Nah they’d be lovers

>> No.46799181

>>46798640
Shiki and Shirou are 100% heterosexual.

>> No.46799517

>>46799181
Do you have proof of this?

>> No.46799649

>>46799517
They're into women, and you don't have proof they're into sodomy.

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Everyone in the Reverse Side is a materialized soul so there is no point in casting the Third Magic there right?

>> No.46799984

>>46799944
proof the third magic isn't true immortality(as in free of annihilation as expressed by the mystic eyes of death)

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>> No.46800070

>>46799944
Magics are just hijacking a natural phenomenon. All magics are useless in the reverse side.

>> No.46800085

>>46799944
>>46800070
More to elaborate on this: 1st? True ether is right there. Who the fuck cares. 2nd? They are completely outside the timelines (explained in Avalon le Fae). 4th and 5th probably don't even have effect. Which explains why a replica of Avalon effect trumps them all.

>> No.46800091

>>46799984
MEoDP > Third Magic. Since it's mentioned MEoDP can kill a soul directly if Shiki levels up.

>> No.46800110

>>46800070
Seems that way looking at Arc apparently being connected to all of them. Makes sense she's the lord of the mystical and humans can't replicate Fae shit. When you think about it, magecraft and sacraments are just attempts to recreate what the planet/nature as the foundation does.

>> No.46800178

>>46800085
>They are completely outside the timelines (explained in Avalon le Fae)
Can you provide a quote for this? I do think Avalon is outside the timeline, but I don't recall this being stated in LB6.

>> No.46800248

I can make Akiha happy

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>>46800248
Are you Shiki?
No?
Then you'll never be good enough for her.

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>>46800268
Stop looking at me like that. Of course I'm SHIKI

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>> No.46800601

I can make Archer happy

>> No.46800965

>>46800178
Merlin casually drops that Avalon is outside everything, like a high dimension or something. All Reverse Side must be the same. I'm not going to re-read all for that screencap. Should be after Morgan's death when Merlin appears to the party if you want to look for it.

>> No.46800975

So Ciel has the most mp but other characters have infinite magical energy. Is this basically meaning someone like Aoko is a high pressured water hose but Ciels a waterfall? More potential magic condensed in a spell/her body?

>> No.46801009

>>46800110
I don't think is just Arc. All A-Rei-like beings should have that: Aesc's self-taught fairytale shit getting compared to Alice's ploys, for example. And Aesc is not even mature or powerful yet in her role as Avalon Le Fae.
>When you think about it, magecraft and sacraments are just attempts to recreate what the planet/nature as the foundation does.
Yeah, but sometimes when someone has it all, they can become the planet, per se. I think that's why Goetia had the potential to replace the Planet if went to the past, because of whatever the fuck was Solomon's authority. Mystery started a long suicide itself with his death. I think he could provide this foundation to others for the same reason. I want to wait until FGO part 2 ends, but what caught my eye in the PV cosmos 2 trailer, is again the association of Solomon (offering) and the planet (rebirth). His rings and throne surviving a heat of point blank supernova which would have wiped out the known human universe is also kinda sus. Look at Lancer's spears, they break with some mana injection. Enkidu's chains break too. That isn't normal.

>> No.46801016

>>46800975
Yeah, Ciel has the greatest tank. Or using Remake terminology she has a greater Lifescale/is smaller and heavy among humans/ magi.

>> No.46801022

>>46800975
>So Ciel has the most mp
That's only measuring the knock Clock Tower as far as we know. That's a very TINY sample.

>> No.46801037

>>46800110
Fou pulled "higher than 5 magics" as a baby beast too.
But granted Beasts have authority and shit that casually replicate magic even if they aren't magicians plus their own bullshit.

>> No.46801072

>>46801009
I think Nasu removed him from the Throne, because he made him a lore TM character instead of just a Servant. He could have made an OC be Zel's and CT director mentor, but he didn't. Chaldean could become playable but like Arc or Aoko or randoms are playable not because of the Throne. That's my opinion. Him being a starter for two timetables is signicant.

>> No.46801086

>>46800965
I smell misinterpretation.

>> No.46801104

>>46800110
>Makes sense she's the lord of the mystical and humans can't replicate Fae shit.
Morgan is called "the Avatar of Mystics."

>> No.46801113

>>46801009
Being similar doesn't mean the same as the first.

>> No.46801123

>>46801086
Look it up, should be around here or the next chapter maybe:
https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/script/0300100410

I gotta run.

>> No.46801127

>>46801022
It was in Type Moon in general.

>> No.46801129

>>46801113
It's probably better. Since true fae creates superior things than the ploys. The first users are watered down fairies.

>> No.46801142

>>46801127
Not really. He was speaking of the Clock Tower. Justaze has obviously better output and circuits.

>> No.46801145

>>46801123
Yes, sounds like you misinterpreting his talk about layers.

>> No.46801161

Shouldn't fairies be naturally connected to the Root? Gods are.
This makes CM defeat vs Zel embarrassing as fuck.

>> No.46801171

>>46801142
No, he wasn't. You're full of shit as usual. Ciel is the most talented individual in TM in this regard and it isn't close.

>> No.46801253

>>46801129
>better
Ok buddy. Lets not even pretend we really understand any of the first's true capabilities or its scope.

>> No.46801320

>>46801161
Everything is connected to the root technically but not everything gets the connected to the root as an important/defining characteristic.

>> No.46801362

>>46800965
>どれほどの終末が地上に吹き荒れようと、影響は受けず、また干渉しない別世界。
>It's a separate world that neither influences nor is influenced by the surface, no matter how apocalyptic things may be up there.
This bit? It's interesting because the premise of LB6 is that the planet was going to be destroyed by Oberon. So destroying the physical planet doesn't destroy Avalon/the Reverse Side.

>> No.46801373

>>46801037
He did within a singularity. So not the best example.

>> No.46801405

>>46801142
Bro he brought Zelretch and Illya into the comparison. He wasn't just talking about the Clock Tower.

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>>46801104
Yeah but ARC has higher hype than Morgan and is higher on the pecking order. So those statements hold more weight when it comes to her.

>> No.46801560

>>46801037
Fou's related to Gaia. And to be fair that act isn't within the domain of the 5 at all. It's something completely different and was only possible because of the space/circumstances.

>> No.46801574

>>46801362
LB7 also says the innersea is one closer to nature that doesn't concern itself with the human world. This reflects AE's neutrality. It's a reality marble of the planet. A reflection of the mind, a dream etc.

>> No.46801589

>>46801440
AE is literally the planet and a true A-ray so the literal foundation, a TA and ultimate one. Morgan doesn't even get a seat at the table with the perfect elemental.

>> No.46801631

>>46801037
>Casually
Doesn't the fraudulent "I" take thousands of years to approach what the fifth can do on the fly?

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>Morgan

>> No.46801697

>>46801644
>I hate women

>> No.46801738

>>46801440
Is there any other character you can associate the 5 with in some capacity? You can do 4 for Arc. Not sure about #4 since no one knows what it is but maybe Event Storage(conceal) is related? MP can do anything possible afterall.

>> No.46801838

>>46801738
Time travel is kinda related and can be done by Arc and other characters. Event Storage and gravity manip also seems to mess with time, as per BB's profile in CCC. The last scene of Ciel's route is literally called Retroflow/Celestial Conception, which is the same thing Aoko does.

>> No.46801891

>>46801838
Arc explicitly manipulates time. Incarnated Elemental. Dreams. Mana Cleaning/reverting the world's board state to how it used to be.

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>"The pattern that has appeared on your right hand is called the 'Command Seals'. It is the proof that you are chosen by the Grail, and the holy mark that grants you the right to control a Servant."

>The person with the smooth but carrying voice who explained this was Tohsaka Tokiomi.

>In the room of an elegant villa built atop a small hill in the neatest district in the south of Turin, Italy, 3 men sat on a lounge chair. Kirei and Tokiomi, and the Father who introduced them and mediated the conversation, Kotomine Risei... Kirei's actual father.

>"The thing about Heaven's Feel is that it is a battle that uses Servants as familiars. So to keep on going forward, the elementary magecraft for the summoning itself becomes required. Essentially, the seven persons who are selected as Masters of the Servants have to be magi. It must be exceptional for someone like you, who doesn't make a living out of magecraft, to be recognized by the Grail at such an early stage."

>"Does the Grail have preferred people to select?"

>Tokiomi nods to the yet-unconvinced Kirei.

>"I mentioned the '3 families of the beginning' — for the granting will favor the magi related to the Makiri, who have now changed their name to Matou, the Einzbern, or the Tohsaka houses. In other words..."

>Tokiomi lifted his right hand to show the threefold pattern.

>"As the current head of the Tohsaka family, I will participate in the next battle."

>Then, was this man planning to cross arms with Kirei after having kindly guided him so thoroughly? Although Kirei couldn't comprehend that, he carried on with his numerous questions.

>"I wonder about the Servants you mentioned earlier. Heroic Spirits summoned and used as familiars, you said..."

Post your favorite dialogue scene in Nasuverse.

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>>46791554

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>>46800053

>> No.46802893

>>46801362
To be fair, Oberon is a weird thing that Nasu hasn't fully explained yet. Even Kiara thinks he's too much. The fact they also shoved Oberon in the Insect gave him authorities over dreams. So none of the dreaming landscapes of the planet would be able to stop him.

>> No.46802912

>>46801440
literally the same shit is given to whatever morgan manipulates. rhon is beyond anything humans can grasp, etc.
>>46801589
In Fate, Archetype Earth is just ONE of the many Alter Egos. All A-reis are Alter Egos of the planet, Morgan (the original source) is the same.

I think you forgot Excalibur (PHH) is called Arc's cousin. And Excalibur Alter mats basically connect her to Morgan/Vivian.

>> No.46802929

>>46801631
I used to think that. Mahoyo collab shows Aoko can't do anything remotely like that, or creating a singularity wouldn't massively nerf her. She got hard-capped.

>> No.46802962

Archetype Earth isn't the Planet.
Arc probably has a buff because of Crimson Moon and not because of Gaia. Each A Ray is a divided spirit (aka Alter Ego) of the Planet. Archetype Earth is the record/memory and nothing else in pure state (no Crimson Moon meddling).
Morgan/Vivianne is unknown but she seems to be the strongest protector of the planet usually when she shits out holy weapons and is responsible to run Avalon and Camelot shit.
Woodwose/Wryneck is the strongest firepower as the planet's heat.

>> No.46803014

>>46801440
Both statements are true though. Excalibur doesn't exist in Tsukihime or Arc wouldn't be surprised to see it. It's heavily hinted Excalibur is Morgan (outside the Lostbelt) and Morgan is some creature with multiple manifestations and names across history. She is called the "Avatar of Mystery" in Fate. Not Archetype Earth described as only ONE of Earth's many Alter Egos. Morgan is also this, by the way. As is every single A-Ray. She's obviously a stand in for Mother Nature in conflict with Humanity (Symbolized by Camelot because Nasu can't help but give Camelot the "defender of Human Order" bullshit label).
It's likely the planet's psyche became different in one timeline and the other. This is all aspects of the planet's soul and personality.

>> No.46803081

>>46802929
It shows she can casually manipulate time with
>Unfinished Blue
Just look at the name of his plan and consider Aoko in MB can casually go back before something is a problem but doesn't out of principle.

>> No.46803087

>>46803081
When she pulls the actual feats instead of hypotheticals. And remember Aoko was there from the future in the Singularity.
Unfinished Blue is likely just her Servant NP. Those are always weaker than usual ones.

>> No.46803090

>>46802962
>Isn't the planet
Literally is the singular elemental who is suitable to being it's Alter-ego. All other elementals are frauds. This is why she speaks as she does from the perspective as the will of the world and has full authority over the planet. She also has powers of the moon. Your headcanon over morgan is retarded. AE is the singular most special elemental.

>> No.46803095

>>46803014
>>46801440
それは湖の妖精に与えられた、
何よりも尊く、輝かしいもの。

星の内海で生まれ、
地上に流れ着いた妖精にのみ与えられた、
世界を造る大母の証。
楽園の使命に従ってさえいれば、
いずれ星の魂として迎えられる、精霊の到達点。

This right here. LB one dipped, but likely not the PHH one.
Lord El Melloi Adventures is going to mega wank her. I just feel Nasu is basing Morgan on Barbara Walker (or whatever is her name) Great Mother. He said fuck it we ball with Camelot.

>> No.46803098

>>46803090
>it's Alter-ego.
Every single A-rei is an Alter Ego.
>singular elemental
In Tsukihime. Not Fate. Can you stop mixing continuities for one second?

>> No.46803109

>>46803095
いずれ星の魂として迎えられる、
Saberfaces are too powerful.

>> No.46803122

>>46803087
Goes through time while maintaining a singularity's position in a specific time-space then flies back to the past and alters the original event. Then the singularity ends and she shows up once again without her shift. Logically, it's unfinished because it's unfinished
as they tell us. What cope are you on? And it's hardly hypothetical when the enemy whose about to end the world is wary of her going back before any of it occurs.

>> No.46803124

>>46802893
He is just the incarnation of Britain to destroy itself. There is not much else to explain.

>> No.46803135

>>46803122
>as they tell us.
When?

>> No.46803146

>>46803124
Sure, but also Nasu said he was the "embodiment of holes everywhere." And said he existed in PHH but wasn't hostile. It just feels he put shit in a blender and didn't explain it.

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>> No.46803151

>>46802912
>literally the same shit is given to whatever morgan manipulates
Morgan isn't the Ultimate One of Earth, nor does she ever get hype on that level. So no.
>Archetype Earth is just ONE of the many Alter Egos
That was just Da Vinci speculating. There is probably no Archetype Earth in Fate given even in Tsukihime the TAs could barely give birth to one at the end of their life.
The ability to manage the planet's surface is one of the functions of the planet's brain/Archetype. Ixquic is explicitly not the real thing and this is mentioned in the story. Probably because Kukulcan fills the role of Archetype Mictlan.

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>> No.46803161

>>46801362
Merlin was saying that about Cernnunos's curses. He literally had no idea about Oberon. So we don't know. It wasn't just the surface that was getting affected.

>> No.46803168

>>46802929
It doesn't show that at all. Especially when Aoko's Arc Drive even in the old Melty games is Retroflow/Light-Year Genesis.
Melty Aoko is an older Aoko, not comparable to the one in the collab.

>> No.46803172

>>46802962
>Archetype Earth is the record/memory and nothing else in pure state (no Crimson Moon meddling).
This is explicitly not the case. Again, Ixquic is stated to not be the real thing, and Archetype Mictlan is explicitly in charge of managing Mictlan, same as the real Brain/Archetype of Earth.

>> No.46803177

>>46803151
>Morgan isn't the Ultimate One of Earth, nor does she ever get hype on that level. So no.
Nobody said that? She does have the title of Avatar of Mystery which you try to deny. Ultimate One shit doesn't exist in Fate like that.

>That was just Da Vinci speculating.
There was no speculation. It was an infodump. You refuse to accept it because you cling on this Tsukihime lore that has no bearing to Fate.
>The ability to manage the planet's surface is one of the functions of the planet's brain/Archetype.
No, it doesn't. Archetype is just a fucking record in Fate.
Fucking Paisen has more texture rights adm (china only) than her.

You'll be happier to separate the lore. Also address this >>46803095

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>> No.46803187

>>46803098
Can you stop with the headcanon? Morgan is not the will of the world or remotely equivalent to the administrator. Elementals are referred to as an alter-ego but they're not the same as THE Alter-Ego and house the brain of the planet. TA were made to create the Alter-Ego of the planet and only one was perfect. TA exist in Fate. Do the math. This is why everyone is crawling on AE's skin.

>> No.46803195

>>46803095
>Born in the inland sea of stars, and washed ashore on the earth,
>The sign of the Great Mother, the creator of the world.
>As long as you follow the mission of paradise,
the point of achievement of the spirit that will eventually be welcomed as the soul of the planet.

Was there any doubt Nasu loves Camelot?

>> No.46803198

>>46803014
>It's heavily hinted Excalibur is Morgan (outside the Lostbelt)
Post quotes. It would make no sense since the whole point of LB6 diverging from PHH is because the six old fairies didn't forge Excalibur, something that requires the fairies to merge and serve as Excalibur's base materials.
Why the fuck would Morgan be Excalibur?
>Not Archetype Earth described as only ONE of Earth's many Alter Egos
Archetype Earth is the only one stated to be the Alter Ego of Earth. Morgan is never stated to be on that level retard.
>Morgan is also this, by the way. As is every single A-Ray
Nope. TAs which are relative to A-Rei are stated to be equivalent to the planet's white blood cells, with only Arc being THE Alter Ego of Earth as the Brain of Earth.

>> No.46803199

>>46803135
Her profile? There is no specification that this Aoko Blue is only unfinished as a servant. There would be no reason for her to not be shifted when she showed up at the end.

>> No.46803209

>>46803187
>Can you stop with the headcanon?
What headcanon? Are you fucking retarded?
The A-rays descriptions is "alter ego/divided spirits of the planet" All of them. Morgan. Woodwoose. All of them. Woodwose is the HEAT of the entire planet.
Archetype Earth is just the RECORD/memory. That's why is the "brain."

>But Arc
Unimportant shit and irrelevant to Fate which is what we're discussing.
Can you actually follow the canon?

>> No.46803220

>>46803146
>Nasu said he was the "embodiment of holes everywhere."
I don't remember Nasu saying this. Post quotes.

>> No.46803226

>>46803198
>Why the fuck would Morgan be Excalibur?
Read Excalibur MORGAN description. And why do you think the sword (and rhon too by the way) true owner is Vivian?
Arc says Excalibur is her cousin, hinting is another A ray.
>since the whole point of LB6 diverging from PHH is because the six old fairies didn't forge Excalibur,
No, bud. It just means those six fucked off, not that they didn't need a sacrifice to make the sword. The main fucking material for the sword was not just the power of the six, but the soul of the Avalon le Fae, the hopes, memories, etc. So it seems to be a fae sacrifice involved.

>Nope. TAs which are relative to A-Rei are stated to be equivalent to the planet's white blood cells, with only Arc being THE Alter Ego of Earth as the Brain of Earth.
You're a retard. Oberon literally describes the Subbells/A-reys as divided spirits of the planet's soul when he infodumps.
Do you know what an Alter Ego is? Hint: Divided Spirit. Alter Ego is just the Engrish Reality Marble name.
Da Vinci never called her the only one, she said she was ONE OF THE Alter Egos.

>> No.46803230

>>46803161
The planet getting nuked falls under the category of "a cataclysm going on outside". Merlin wasn't talking about the surface, but any kind of destruction occurring outside Avalon.

>> No.46803248

>>46803220
It was in Famitsu.
>Famitsu: Does Pan-Human History also have an Abyssal Insect?

>Nasu: Good question. He should exist everywhere the concept of "hole" exists, but nothing that vicious will ever manifest there.

Doesn't sound like he's just Britain's suicidal impulse, but rather that just summoned him to add as cleanup job and then got a personality disorder when they tossed Oberon into him.

>> No.46803252

>>46803230
>It's a separate world that neither influences nor is influenced by the surface,
>surface
literally talking about the surface here bro. And Merlin didn't know Oberon shit there. He was drooling about the curses. AA obviously was permitted to go and deal with a Hungry Boy.

>> No.46803254

>>46803248
>Nasu: Good question. He should exist everywhere the concept of "hole" exists
I'm surprised the Universal Concept of Hole isn't a Sakuraface.

>> No.46803255

>>46803177
>the title of Avatar of Mystery which you try to deny
Which is a fancy title without much purpose. Morgan isn't special in the grand scheme, she is just an A-Rei.
>Ultimate One shit doesn't exist in Fate like that.
Then why are you comparing Morgan to Arc?
>It was an infodump
And it's wrong based on everything we've seen from mats and other Archetypes like Kukulcan. Plus Ixquic being stated to not be the real thing.
>Archetype is just a fucking record in Fate
Kukulcan is explicitly Archetype Mictlan. It's just Ixquic isn't a proper Archetype, which is why she is called Archetype Meta Earth.

>Also address this

>It's the most precious and glorious thing that has been given to her by the faerie of the lake.
>The symbol of the Great Mother who built this world, only given to faeries who were born in the bay of the stars, and washed ashore to Earth.

What about it? The only thing of note here is that the Great Mother fairies built the world and Morgan got something from those old fairies.

>> No.46803260

>>46803248
>He should exist everywhere the concept of "hole" exists,
Does it mean he's also in those ero scenes because of holes? I want to know if the MCs are actually having a 3some.

>> No.46803266

>>46803255
Are you ignoring this part?
いずれ星の魂として迎えられる、精霊の到達点。

>> No.46803281

>>46803226
>What headcanon
Pretty much everything you're saying. You're trying to suggest lower-tier elementals are comparable to AE.
>Irrelevant
They said AE is the brain of the planet in Type-Moon. Referring to Arc. It won't exist in fate because Gaia seems to only awaken in Tsuki

>> No.46803282

>>46803248
So he's some primordial eldrich being that got cranky because Britain sucks?

>> No.46803294

>>46803209
>The A-rays descriptions is "alter ego/divided spirits of the planet"
So are TAs. In Fate/Extra they are literally staed to be the planet itself, the literal thing and above God-level spirits. But they also make a firm distiction between Arc and other TAs:
>True Ancestors of the highest grade like Arcueid are one step above that of an immune system—something which would no doubt be appropriate to label as the Alter-Ego of Earth.

>Archetype Earth is just the RECORD/memory. That's why is the "brain."
A Brain also has control over the entire body bro. It's not merely a recorder.
>Unimportant shit
No because you began to compare Arc with Morgan. It's not irrelevant because you can only compare Tsuki Arc with Morfan since Arc doesn't exist in Fate.

>> No.46803311

>>46803294
Isn't Arc called a A-Ray(True)?

>> No.46803314

>>46803255
>Which is a fancy title without much purpose.
You're the fucking one making a noise morgan has it and went "but my Arc!" I get it you're assmad because that's not her special title anymore.
>Then why are you comparing Morgan to Arc?
I only said that Morgan has it, as an example all fairies are fucking big deal. And not only Arc. You're dumb.
>And it's wrong based on everything
Sorry but canon infodump trumps your headcanon. Deal with it. Archetype Earth IN FATE is just ONE of the Alter EGOS and a recorder. Nothing else.
Woodwose/Wryneck is likely the strongest A-Ray as far as we know in sense of firepower. In Fate.

>Kukulcan is explicitly Archetype Mictlan.
And? You do realize you can have multiple Alter Egos, right? There's a fucking chapter explaining what Alter Egos are. ORT got just one. Earth has MULTIPLE.

>What about it?
Did you gloss over the whole the spirit will be welcomed as the soul of the planet? So each Alter Ego can, potentially, take the dominant role for different reasons. LB Morgan refused because she didn't care about it.

This doesn't affect Arc at all. This isn't Tsukihime bruh. You need to sit down while adults discuss lore if you're feeling they are raping you're waifu.

>> No.46803315

>>46803226
>Excalibur MORGAN
I did. Says nothing about that. Only that Morgan inherited the curse from King Uther.
You're making it seem like Morgan was made into Excalibur like the six fairies.
>Arc says Excalibur is her cousin, hinting is another A ray.
Or it's the six fairies mixed into one sword?
>So it seems to be a fae sacrifice involved.
It's outright stated the six fairies are meant to be that sacrifice. This is not speculation, it's outright stated in the story.
>she said she was ONE OF THE Alter Egos.
And KatatsukimKouhon states the Alter Ego of Earth is set apart from other TAs, which are also Alter Egos but not of the same scale. So again, you're arguing against the mats itself.

>> No.46803322

>>46803294
I'm not sure why you think I disagree about TA being alter egos. They are. Their function is to be an immune system. Not all A-ray have that function. Woodwose and whatever he derivates from is the HEAT.

>>46803311
Yes, she's called one of them. So is Morgan, Woodwose, and likely the original six fuckers who went partying instead of forging excalibur.

>> No.46803325

>>46803294
>A Brain also has control over the entire body bro.
Not really. See ORT. The Brain isn't in control of the body. The core is. Earth has a core (it's mentioned a couple of times) too.

>> No.46803328

>>46803252
>literally talking about the surface here bro
That's from the translation. There is nothing about surface in the raw since 地上 can just mean anything outside Avalon:
>どれほどの終末が地上に吹き荒れようと、影響は受けず、また干渉しない別世界。

>And Merlin didn't know Oberon shit there
Irrelevant.

>> No.46803331

>>46803315
>I did. Says nothing about that.
It literally says Excalibur can be Light or Dark because it reflects the nature of the Lake Fairy (Vivian/Morgan).
Stop coping.

>Or it's the six fairies mixed into one sword?
See above. The fucking SWORD is reflecting ONE fairy.
This leads to a discussion I'm intrigued:
If Morgan/Vivian = FSN Excalibur.
Castoria = FGO Excalibur.
What about Proto Excalibur? It's obviously different.

>> No.46803333

>>46803266
A-Rei are bunshin of the planet's soul. That's not new.

>> No.46803334

>>46803328
I'm going to drop this to just embarrass you:
https://www.japandict.com/%E5%9C%B0%E4%B8%8A

>> No.46803336

I have no idea what you guys are talking about

>> No.46803338

>>46803336
Some dude can't split Tsuki and Fate lore and gets butthurt about it.

>> No.46803352

>>46803333
Read the NA translation. She was going to become the soul of the planet. It was a "glory she discarded." I am not saying she's Type Earth, because I'm sure that shit doesn't exist in Fate, I'm saying she probably would be the leader of all the rest and probably was in PHH.

The conflict in Camelot was about nature and the human order. Morgan being the representative of nature. Morgan itself being something else which has multiple manifestations, including the Morrigan etc.

>> No.46803356

>>46803314
>You're the fucking one
No? You began to compare Morgan with Arc ignoring why Arc is called the lord of mystery. It's not a fancy title, it refers to the fact she is the foundation of the planet along with being the Canopy covering the cosmos:
>Both magecraft and sacraments imitate and then recreate the things possible to achieve on the planet, right? Meaning, they don’t really have much effect on me, as I serve as its foundation.
>And not only Arc
Not all Fairies are Ultimate One or the Canopy covering the Void/Cosmos.
>You're dumb
Nah
>Archetype Earth IN FATE is just ONE of the Alter EGOS
No because Ixquic is not the real thing. And the only other example of an Archetype has actual power and agency. So Da Vinci is explicitly wrong as she sometimes is.
>And? You do realize you can have multiple Alter Egos, right?
Moving the goalpost are we? The point is that an Archetype is more than just a recorder as Kukulcan shows. She is an Archetype as well just like Arc.

>> No.46803373

>>46803322
>They are. Their function is to be an immune system
Not Arc. Her position is explicitly stated to be superior to an immune system.

>>46803325
>The Brain isn't in control of the body
Archetype Earth can stop the rotation of the Earth with a thought which she calls her body.
Normal Arc literally tilts the axis of Earth to generate energy.
So yeah, it is in Earth's case. Very explicitly in fact.

>> No.46803383

Calling in now, Morgan and Merlin are going to be the great female and male archetypes. Those are latest manifestations born into the world. Merlin's obviously older than he seems.

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>>46803334
Bro.

>> No.46803389

>>46803373
Arc can do that because of whatever happened with TM. Not because of being Archetype Earth.

>> No.46803393

>>46803294
>Compares A-rei as similar to TA. Elementals.
>Born in the inner sea
>TA explicitly come from the deepest inner sea
>TA are the highest elementals designed as the planets immune system, defense, and Alter-Ego, Brain and Ultimate One. A process to make a king.
>None of them are equal to Arc whose the actual will of the world and dreaming stone.
>AE dreams of the surface
>Walking on my skin
>Murder Suicide
Pretty obvious AE is literally the planet+CM manifested in a humanoid form.

Both magecraft and sacraments imitate and then recreate the things possible to achieve on the planet, right? Meaning, they don’t really have much effect on me, as I serve as its foundation.

>> No.46803396

>>46803389
That makes no sense. Why would being Type MOON give her control of the Earth?
I mean I guess it's possible given the Moon Cell became Type Moon after it gained the ability to manage the Earth, but you know...

>> No.46803398

>>46803393
As I hear, the Grail is an inexhaustible pile of resources. Hmph, what ought one call that, if not blind to one’s surroundings? Do ye not live atop of me already?

>> No.46803408

>>46803352
You say that like the soul doesn't already exist.

>> No.46803431

>>46803352
>leader of all the rest
>Probably was in PHH
??? What are you even talking about?

>> No.46803483

>>46803322
That only shows up in Arc's profile.

>> No.46803504

>>46803431
Morgan being the Avatar of Mystery was a description of PHH Morgan.

>> No.46803513

>>46803396
>That makes no sense. Why would being Type MOON give her control of the Earth?
It's a VAMPIRE it infected and invaded the planet likely. That's why that shit matters in Tsukihime and not in the world CM failed.
Also the Type stuff/Ultimate One is literally worded as Tsukihime exclusive (see Arc's profile). So in Fate, it likely doesn't exist. ORT's Ultimate one was different.

>> No.46803530

>>46803373
>Not Arc. Her position is explicitly stated to be superior to an immune system.
...And?
Woodwose has a different role too. And? You're literally so far up Arc's ass and gaping vagina, you don't even know or read what you're arguing.

>Arc can
Stop right here. Dino Archetype can't. And being a record is all she can do according to Da Vinci BEFORE even meeting her. That is well-known by mages. Because her role is another. And there is no Type Moon fucking Earth system to buff his new generation.

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Oh my God, can you two stop arguing and just kiss already?!

>> No.46803541

>>46803538
I'll kiss you instead, babe.

>> No.46803547

>>46803504
I can almost taste it when she drops in Adventures. People forget she started that LB6 shit as a fucking downgrade Servant.

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>>46803541
Come here, pretty boy....

>> No.46803554

>>46803550
Oh baby.

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>>46803550

>> No.46803562

>>46803483
>That only shows up in Arc's profile.
Your point is? It's very clear in Fate, the planet has multiple workers in charge of multiple functions. We don't hear of this at all in Tsukihime, we just known of TA (which only have one function shared by all). The absence of Excalibur is very discerning too.

>> No.46803566

>>46803558
Back off. Find your own meme Cat.

>> No.46803586

why the hell did the zoomers go so crazy for Neco Arc when they've never even heard of the source material VN, or the actual full woman regular Arc?

>> No.46803588

>>46803513
>It's a VAMPIRE it infected and invaded the planet likely
Why wouldn't the Brain of Earth have control over the Earth? TM being involved is no explanation since TM just becomes the Brain through Arc. It matters in Tsukihime because Arc isn't in Fate.
>That is well-known by mages
Da Vinci isn't omniscient and neither are magi. All they have is theories and hypotheses most of the time. Ixquic is explicitly only Archetype Meta Earth, and not the real thing. With Archetype Mictlan having purview over the underground world. So Da Vinci is wrong, and you're wrong. Deal with it.

>> No.46803594

>>46803586
To be fair she has a funny design.

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>>46803586
>why the hell did the zoomers go so crazy for Neco Arc
Cute design with a funny personality

>> No.46803624

>Morgan sac'd for Excal
>Morgan does all the other shit too
Explain?
>Avatar of Mystery
She did inherit the mysteries of the british isles given her birth. I don't know why we're associating the term with the one used for Arc as it's different and clearly linked to Tsuki shit.

>> No.46803656

In Tsuki the TAs only barely managed to give birth to an Earth's Brain at the end of their life. It is an extremely rare existence, so the Brain/Alter Ego/Archetype likely doesn't exist in Fate worlds at all.
Da Vinci is just talking about theories and hypotheticals since it's not like magi could confirm most of that shit. Even in Tsuki no Sango the Brain of the Moon also has control over the Moon.

>True Ancestors of the highest grade like Arcueid are one step above that of an immune system—something which would no doubt be appropriate to label as the Alter-Ego of Earth.

>(In fact, the True Ancestors were only ever birthed to create a frame on the level of an Alter-Ego of Earth. All True Ancestors outside of Arc were failures. Yet in the True Ancestors’ last days, they succeeded in creating the Brain of the Planet that had been desired in the first place).

>> No.46803664

>>46803562
That you can't assume it applies to others. Not sure what you mean by the TA stuff since they're far more multi-purpose in design than other Fae. Given that they're made to be the admin, they were designed with the idea of having everything done by one species/being. A king rather than workers.
>>46803530
>Dino Arc
Not "Fate" but a LB. Even Sialim recognizes AE as the will of the world.

>> No.46803683

Shirou x Shiki is the most mid ship ever thought.

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>Hey, what are you doing?
>Nothing, I just wanted to run for a bit.
Kek.

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>>46803709

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I finally got that frame.

>> No.46803770

>>46803624
Morgan literally respawns new generations, most likely. That's why she was also The Morrigan and probably other shit.
The latest one was born from humans so came out super fucked up and unhinged lately.

>> No.46803780

>>46803588
>>46803656
Why the fuck are you insisting Da Vinci was speculating when she never said that at all. And Dino Arc fit the description of what mage classified as the Archetype.
Sounds like you're mad your headcanon got debunked and Archetype is just another (strong) fairy.
Arc simply got special shit because of Crimson Moon. That's why she's called TSUKIHIME, not Chikyuuhime. She's an invading virus/malware.

>> No.46803789

>>46803664
>Not sure what you mean by the TA stuff since they're far more multi-purpose in design than other Fae.
What? Morgan is a swiss knife army.
>Given that they're made to be the admin
Bruh all fae can murk around the surface. That's basically what Morgan and Knock control in LB6.
Some of the clan leaders new generations got some function messed up with because of their sin. Like the fairy domain stuff.
Also fucking Paisen can control the texture. Read LB3.

>> No.46803792

>>46803336
gachashit gobbledygook. just ignore it.

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>> No.46803796

>>46803624
>She did inherit the mysteries of the british isles given her birth.
She's not called the avatar of that, she's called the "Avatar of Mystery" in general. I literally brought that up because a similar title was used in Fate.
Do remember Camelot Galahad's shield is also called the "Foundation of the Human Order." And LB Morgan has an anathema NP, which is mostly a reference to her PHH self and nothing to do with LB if you read the description.
She's the nemesis of the Human Order.

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But since this thread's gonna die, there's one more secret I feel I have to share with you. I did not care for Nasuverse lore.

>> No.46803805

>>46803248
Watch Nasu finally clarify this shit in a decade.

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>> No.46803832

>>46803800
It's not a secret when you say it every thread.

>> No.46803838

>>46803832
I do not do that, tho.

>> No.46803843

>>46803780
Da Vinci isn't omnipotent. You act like these characters are always correct. Reminder that DinoArc is not AE(True) explicitly and that the LB isn't Tsuki/Fate in the first place. The only time we see the proper AE appear is in Tsuki related works and the crossovers where she's clearly more than just a recorder.

>> No.46803859

>>46803789
Morgan was not created for the purpose of administrating the planet nor does she or any of the lesser fae have the capabilities that TA have. They can functionally do anything as they're made to deal with any and all threats as represented by their limitless capabilities.

>> No.46803895

>>46803796
You have not proven they are similar despite trying to draw a link between Morgan and AE for some reason. You said they're literally the same shit despite AE and Morgan being nothing alike.

>> No.46804041

Technically the story itself is also lore

>> No.46804048

>>46804041
OK, Ben.

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Do you think Aoko explored her neck?

>> No.46804197

>>46803800
He's a pretty awful world builder yea, but its loretrash is all he can do since gachashit means no real characters or protagonists. Aka, his bread and butter.

>> No.46804318

The Garden of Sinners is meant to be watched out of chronological order, right? Go by release?

>> No.46804361

>>46800965
How does that work with Fate Shirou after he enter Avalon? Let say, could
he observe other routes now if Merlin were to help him since he is not stuck in his own route timeline?

>> No.46804533

>>46804318
Exactly

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Reading Tsuki no Sango manga
Are these lostbelt trees? Did he do it again?

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>> No.46804786

>>46803843
Bro. She was a designated mouthpiece, infodumping what is passed as common knowledge among mages. When she's actually speculating, the story makes it clear. I'm done with arguing with someone who is rustled about their headcanon getting debunked.

>> No.46804790

>>46803859
>Morgan was not created for the purpose of administrating the planet
She's literally one of the great mothers who created the world according to her bond ce, though?
Also remind me again what happened to the True Ancestors? Oh yeah. Dead. While Morgan's fucking around with Waver's protege.

>> No.46804796

>>46804361
>he observe other routes now if Merlin were to help him since he is not stuck in his own route timeline?
I don't think he has clairvoyance.

>> No.46804804

>>46804796
That is why I add the Merlin factor. The Shirou thing is just a hypothetical question.
The whole Avalon is outside of timelines is confusing for me especially in regard to the other routes.

>> No.46804822

How the fucking hell can you guys keep track of all of this?

>> No.46804825

>>46804822
Try having autism.
I bet the autists probably remember TES or Dark Souls lore too.

>> No.46804852

>>46804825
Dark Souls ain't shit. There's three games, that's it. Type-Moon has countless different series and spinoffs, adjacent timelines, flimsy yet firm rules, endless terminology, all of it somehow fitting together whenever and however it wants, just...I don't even know how to describe it.

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>> No.46805567

>>46804744
It looks somewhat similar but not completely. It could be that those were based on fantasy trees or vice versa. Could also be nothing just like what's left after Arc using Event Storage and bleached earth looks basically the same but it's different stuff

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>main character female interaction
>They just want to fight each other

>> No.46806332 [DELETED] 

>>46804786
Bro we have Archetype Mictlanbeing explicitly more than just a recorder. Same for the Moon's Brain in Tsuki no Sango.
I don't give a shit what she said, Da Vinci is just wrong when she examples explicitly disagree.

>> No.46806347

>>46804786
Bro we have Archetype Mictlan being explicitly more than just a recorder. Same for the Moon's Brain in Tsuki no Sango.
I don't give a shit what she said, Da Vinci is just wrong when the examples explicitly disagree.

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12yo body lol

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https://twitter.com/Jonyeld/status/1786464663045058579

Switch clothes

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>> No.46806657

>>46802467
I want to be cool like him someday

>> No.46806855

>>46804822
If it's not in the VNs, it doesn't matter.

>> No.46806856

Leaked Red Garden CG
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/114280611

>> No.46806897

>>46806657
Better find a Saber you couldn't save then.

>> No.46807033

>>46806856
Another leaked Red Garden CG
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/115065490

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>> No.46807159

>>46807125
I don't understand...

>> No.46807204

So.. can remake Shiki kill servant?

>> No.46807243

>>46807156
What's the source of this meme?

>> No.46807319

>>46807243
https://twitter.com/66666666kg/status/1785341381185286472

>> No.46807762
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>>46807204
Grand Assassin tier

>> No.46807832

>>46805830
BASED

>> No.46807958

>>46804786
All you've spouted is unconfirmed headcanon. These characters are not omniscient narrators. Just look at the recent Olga scene.
>>46804790
Think about it in the context of the LB lol.
>What happened
The strongest being in TM killed them all. Otherwise, sleeping, suicide, isolated or whatever depending on timeline and individual.

>> No.46808041

>>46784549
cute akira

>> No.46808158

>>46806347
>Bro we have Archetype Mictlan being explicitly more than just a recorder.
Proof?
> Same for the Moon's Brain in Tsuki no Sango.
Bringing up the moon is retarded. Stop doing that.

>CANON IS LE WRONG
Stop smelling Arc's farts please.

>>46807958
All I have spouted is literally stated in the text, though?

>The strongest being in TM killed them all.
Someone who doesn't exist in Fate where they faced extinction hunted down by executors and mages. Weaker than Meiren who actually outlived them.

>> No.46808318

>>46808158
>Proof?
Kukulcan is stated to be the arbiter of Mictlan multiple times. She isn't merely recording stuff, she is explicitly in charge of ensuring Mictlan is properly managed. You know, the same thing stated to be the purpose of the Brain of Earth in Katatsuki Kouhon.
>Bringing up the moon is retarded
The moon is also a celestial body, and you can have an Archetype for places like Mictlan as well as Earth, so it's very much pertinent. Especially when Arc inherits things from the Brain of the Moon (CM) who was also very much not just a recorder.
>CANON IS LE WRONG
A character making a statement isn't what I would consider canon unless the statement is corroborated by examples, and not outright contradicted, which is explicitly the case now.

Plus You were arguing Morgan could become the soul of the planet>>46803314 Archetype, soul and brain of the planet are all the same thing since that terminology is used interchangeable.
So you're saying Morgan would become a recorder and lose all her other functions?
Do you realize how dumb that sounds?

Arc talks about this in one of her quotes:

>There are a plethora of both True Ancestors and elementals, but there are few who can become the Brain of the Planet. I would be one of them, but it appears that right now I have been released from that duty.
>The soul of the planet—its archetype. Such is my position. Nevertheless, insofar that I am a Servant, my prerogative is limited.
At most, I may conjure a storm by my fingertips, or shake the earth with my toes. Trifling, is it not?

Her Authority as the Archetype/Soul of the planet is explicitly linked here to nature interference. Yet according to you this is somehow not related to being the soul of the planet, but it has to do with CM despite nothing to support such an assertion.

>All I have spouted is literally stated in the text, though?
>where they faced extinction hunted down by executors and mages
Fucking lol, the irony is palpable. I'm sure you can provide a single statement suggesting the TAs were hunted down by executors and mages.
>Weaker than Meiren who actually outlived them
Meiren doesn't have the same strict rules as TAs where they put themselves in permanent stasis whenever they can't handle their vampiric impulses.
TAs can become more human and gain independence from nature, but most of them likely went to sleep in Fate, since by the time Arc was born in Tsukihime the TAs were mostly extinct already, simply because most of them went to sleep.

>> No.46808397

>>46808158
Misinterpretations and logic leaps as usual. Read Tsuki btw.

>> No.46808661

I'm going to subscribe to a fanbox just to coom to a short comic of Arach sex

>> No.46808682

Finished the collab.
But I still don't get why would Shizuki become a Heroic Spirit. That was fucking godawful.

>> No.46808710

>>46808318
>Kukulcan
Isn't Archetype Earth. She is the Lostbelt King. Of course she's fucking administrating that.
>The moon is also a celestial body
The Moon has always been weird. See Mooncell. I am not sure why you pretend is the same case as earth.
>A character making a statement
A character who is INFODUMPING something that is taken as reader introduction to the concept. Not related to an ongoing mystery plot or anything. So nope. Try again retard.
>Plus You were arguing Morgan could become the soul of the planet
That's what the Bond CE says. I assume the Avatar of Mystery stuff is a title given to the leader of A-Rays. Which PHH Morgan (not LB one) became somehow.
No, BRAIN of Earth specifically in Fate context is used as a recorder and mouthpiece. Woodwose is by far the strongest A Ray in Fate. Even stronger than Morgan (at least LB one). He's the Planet's heat.

>Tsukishit
Irrelevant to Fate where it's even stated in Arc's profile all that shit only matters to Tsukihime.

Anyway read LB3. Meiren has all the pluses and none of the cons of a TA.

>> No.46808731

>>46808682
May as well not have requirements at this point.
>>46808661
Has other stuff too. She's doing a continuation iirc.

>> No.46808741

>>46808710
Delusional

>> No.46808743

>>46808731
>She
Why are all the Tsukihime artists I like girls?

>> No.46808744

>>46808682
I guess because he punched the star for one second, but honestly, if we go for that contribution, Kirsch and Ophelia should be Servants. They did more and have a more impressive power.
Really smells like Nasu lost his head to biases (and I am a Mahoyo fan).

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Oh shit... Why do japanese fans want to ship Noel and Ciel so bad?

I can’t really understand it

I don't ship them as I don't see any romantic tention between them. Ciel treats Noel like a slave. She doesn't show any signs of being interested in Noel either other than the usual "She's useless/Oh... poor thing" stuff.

>> No.46808761

>>46808682
Did Nasu forget about fame? You can't just add random people nobody knows to the Throne (unless they have a contract as CG). He even wrote about no one knowing what he did, so it contradicts his own fucking rules.
He should have just add his SG recorded to Chaldea and not the Throne. That would make sense.

>> No.46808769

>>46808744
>Kirsch and Ophelia should be Servants
We all know this is happening eventually. Crypter servants are probably the only "Break Glass in an Emergency" characters they have left.

>> No.46808776

>>46808761
>Did Nasu forget
Yes. Doesn't matter when or what you're asking.

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Just as Roa-Ciel is about to finally execute Arcueid, "Unidentified Ancestor" saves her from Roa-Ciel. Can somebody tell me who this guy is?

I'd bet on Zelretch, Altrouge or their Remake continuity equivalents.

>> No.46808812

>>46808769
I think that would be Romani/Solomon. Or a new Mega Saber. But lately she feels less popular than Jeanne Alter and Morgan.

>> No.46808825

>>46808783
Why is Arc such a fucking jobber?

>> No.46808842

>>46808744
Now he can have his korean love triangle drama last forever.

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>>46808825
Roa Ciel is too OP..

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>>46808769
Class them.

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>> No.46808887

>>46808710
>Isn't Archetype Earth
Doesn't matter. She is an Archetype and isn't merely recording. An Archetype is never stated to differ in function between different celestial bodies. If you want to make that claim bring proof.
>that is taken as reader introduction to the concept
Same concept is explained in Katatsuki Kouhon. A character statement has way less weight, so why would I give a shit what you think?
>He's the Planet's heat
He has an Authority said to be related to the planet's heat. With no elaboration on what it means. Again, why should I give a shit?
>Meiren has all the pluses and none of the cons of a TA.
lmao no. She has no Event Storage, no Marble Phantasm. Nor does she have the ability to make herself a stronger vessel. This
>As an Elemental who shares mana with nature, she doesn't store magical energy inside her body, but rather she draws limitless energy from external sources. However, as she is bound by a humanoid form, there is a limit in how much output she can generate despite her infinite supply, and the amount of magical energy that she can make use is limited within the range of a humanoid Heroic Spirit.

Is not an issue TA have since they can explicitly make themselves a more powerful vessel with stronger basic parameters. Meiren is garbage compared to actual TA. Literally a Chinese knockoff lmao.

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>> No.46808900

>>46808867
Savior or Alter Ego Gudako/Rokka *5
Assassin Beryl *1
Berserker Pepe *5
Asssassin Yu Meiren *4 (done)
Lancer Ophelia *4
Caster Kirschtaria *5
Foreigner Daybit *5
Kadoc will live.

>> No.46808905

>>46808887
>no Marble Phantasm.
NTA, but this is wrong. MP is just the manipulation of the texture and Yu Meiren can do that. It was stated she did in LB3 too.

>> No.46808906

>>46808867
Kadoc is such a lucky faggot, he got the cutest and less retarded servant.

>> No.46808907

>>46808744
Soujuurou punching Shiny Star >>> Kirsch barely tickling U-Olga and Ophelia temporarily distracting Surtr.
Reminder that Shiny Star at two stars is already relative to U-Olga and LB7 ORT, let alone the 5 star Shiny Star Soujuurou stopped.

Souji is just that ridiculous.

>> No.46808914

>>46808905
>NTA
Don't lie anon. Also the only thing she did was hide the Fantasy Tree. But that's something magi can do with enough prep time. She never shows anything similar to Marble Phantasm which is nature interference.

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>>46808907
How the fuck does he do it?

>> No.46808958

>>46808887
>doesn't matter
Yeah, it does? Because that's ARCHETYPE EARTH description, not Archetype ORT. Kuku is the ONLY alter ego of the core, while Earth has multiple alter egos. In other worlds, Kuku multitask as the LB King too.
>She is an Archetype and isn't merely recording.
See above retard. That's SPECIFICIALLY Archetype Earth function. If you want other functions, there are many A Rays who are powerful around.

>Same concept is explained in Katatsuki Kouhon. A character statement has way less weight, so why would I give a shit what you think?
You're literally mistaking speculation about an ongoing mystery or plot to infodump about a lore FACT. Which was the case with Archetype Earth. Stop grasping the straws, please.
>He has an Authority said to be related to the planet's heat. With no elaboration on what it means.
He's LITERALLY a part of the planet soul too.
>lmao no. She has no Event Storage, no Marble Phantasm
You literally don't know if she doesn't have any of those. She does control the texture and administrates it.
Since you're copypasting from Servant profiles I'm going to assume that you did NOT read LB3. Where Hinako was HIDING from Church and Mages because they killed the TA.

>> No.46808968

>>46808914
I don't care about your discussion.
>Also the only thing she did was hide the Fantasy Tree.
No, she's stated to be the controller of China texture born out the Fusang tree, the original one. She is supposed to control all texture of whatever is "China." In Lb3, the whole world is China though.

>> No.46808981

>>46808907
>Reminder that Shiny Star at two stars is already relative to U-Olga and LB7 ORT,
Bro, the thing is all translated. The shiny star isn't very impressive. Kirsch drove out U Olga, while Punchy Boy only bought Aoko a second.

>> No.46809008

>>46808907
>Soujuurou punching Shiny Star >>> Kirsch barely tickling U-Olga and Ophelia temporarily distracting Surtr.
No, it's not.
Kirsch stopped Olga from killing Chaldea and drove her out the Lostbelt, letting it disappear in peace and stopping her from consuming it. Only think Sono G did was to buy Aoko a breather to send the problem to the future.
Ophelia didn't just "distracted" Surtr, she is the reason Surtr is defeated. She cut their connection, and used her eye to deny his victory.

>> No.46809022

>>46808907
My brother in Christ, Ophelia is the reason Surtr didn't destroy the world. She cut him off because he forcibly manifested as her Servant.

>> No.46809052

>>46808844
AI is weird. What's going on with the collar area

>> No.46809088

>>46808783
My bet is that it's Altrouge

>> No.46809095

>>46808905
>Just
Ok retard.

>> No.46809133

>>46808981
Still more impressive than anything in FGO actually.

>> No.46809138

>>46808900
Change from savior to CE since they're useless.

>> No.46809142

>>46808907
Souji would unironically blow their hearts out before they could do anything. Mountain based people are just built different.

>> No.46809163

>>46808958
>Yeah, it does? Because that's ARCHETYPE EARTH description
An Archetype is an Archetype is an Archetype. Again, if you're making the claim there are differences between each Archetype despite them being the same thing, then bring proof.
>That's SPECIFICIALLY Archetype Earth function
Citation needed.
>You're literally mistaking speculation about an ongoing mystery or plot to infodump about a lore FACT
I don't give a shit. Let's not pretend characters have never been wrong before. So far what Da Vinci claims contradicts pretty much everything actually shown so far.
>You literally don't know if she doesn't have any of those
I'm not making assumptions here. She never shows anything like that, nor even a claim. So I'm not going to assume she has anything comparable, especially when she is stated to merely be a relative of TAs.
>Where Hinako was HIDING from Church and Mages because they killed the TA
I did in fact read LB3 and Hinako hiding from people trying to kill her means jack shit to the state of the TAs. The TAs live in the Reverse Side of the World and don't involve themselves with humanity whereas Hinako was the wife of a famous Chinese general. So she was naturally involved into human affairs. They are not comparable.

>> No.46809167

>>46808968
>No, she's stated to be the controller of China texture born out the Fusang tree
Nah this is never stated in LB3. Post quotes.

>> No.46809178

>>46808981
Kirei explicitly stated Olga was surprised at being attacked, but took no damage from the attack despite requiring Kirsch to suicide.
Two Star Shiny Star is already stellar level, while five stars is magnitudes more powerful.
So yeah, Souji punching it and stopping it for a second or two is far more impressive.

>> No.46809185

>>46809008
>Kirsch stopped Olga from killing Chaldea and drove her out the Lostbelt
Which only happened because Olga was surprised at being attacked as stated by Kirei. His attack did jack shit so it's not impressive and it's no indication of how strong Kirsch is really.
>Ophelia didn't just "distracted" Surtr
Surtr is shit compared to stellar-classes, so it doesn't matter.

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I don't think F/GOmi discussions should be allowed here.

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I don't think

>> No.46809279

>>46809215
I agree. Shiki solo's FGO btw. Just stabs the phone and ends the service.

>> No.46809291

>>46809215
there are nerds marking out for fucking Ophelia, genuinely embarrassing

>> No.46809295

>>46809291
I think it's just caggybro.

>> No.46809342

>>46809295
It is. The same clown comes here every once in a while.

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>> No.46809549

Can Shiki beat The Undertaker at Wrestlemania?

>> No.46809594

are there any major gameplay differences between the various iterations of Melty Blood besides the addition of new characters?

>> No.46809606

>>46809594
yes but don't ask me for specifics. I forgot.

>> No.46809610

>>46809594
of course

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Caren C. Hortensia
Biography in Fate/Grand Order
■■■■ : "Hm? Are you talking about her? That human juggernaut?
Surely she would never show up in Chaldea... is what I used to think, but with ■■■■ anything is possible, I suppose.

She may not look it, but she is someone who has nonchalantly defeated a handful of last bosses already.

I'm sure that she would display tremendous soloing potential, and then go all 'oops, did I do it again?' here as well. Hopefully I have not jinxed us, God willing."

Who the f is ■■■■

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what happend?

>> No.46809644

>>46809636
I looked at my booklet again and I'm honestly not even sure what they would have censored

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Tsukihime Remake is coming to steam?

>> No.46809660

>>46808769
There's always non-pseudo versions of the FSN cast too. Still waiting for my Siduri pseudo-servant though.

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>>46809644
maybe this one

>> No.46809668
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>>46809644
This and DA Noel

>> No.46809676

>>46809663
>>46809636
>>46809644
>I looked at my booklet again and I'm honestly not even sure what they would have censored

Bruh Roa=Ciel is physically 12 y/o in the remake...

>> No.46809680

>>46809644
they show in game so makes no sense. Also switch.

>> No.46809683

>>46809676
I guess this makes americans seethe uncontrollably

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>>46809676
It's going to remain uncensored in the Switch version. So if Nintendo is cool with it, then I don't know why Sony would have such a massive stick up their ass over it.

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stopped aging when she was 12 yo 165cm G-cup breast... What if Roa didn't take her body...

>> No.46809733

>>46809636
I should probably cancel my PO and just buy a switch already

>> No.46809785

>>46809733
I just bought the switch one too.
PS=Better performance.

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Aieeeeeeee fukasawa uses my favourite VST samples
what a whiplash
bet red gardens gonna have more aggressive drums

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Last for the cat

>> No.46810233

>>46810162
Would.

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