/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

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A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2052410/WITCH_ON_THE_HOLY_NIGHT/
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru Short Story):
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/An-Adventure-of-First-Love.html
Witch on the Holy Night Material
https://tri-hermes.org/Materials/The_Magicians_Basic_Rhythm.html
Mahoutsukai no Yoru OST Music Collection [FLAC]

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (Japanese):
https://pastebin.com/zz8z62qp
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime Complete Pack (Tsukihime, PLUS+DISC, Kagetsu Tohya):
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3874450
Tsukihime OG Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1591168
Tsukihime Manga (Arcueid's route):
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn
Tsukihime Plus Period - Talk
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/talk.html
Tsukihime II Prelude
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/prelude.html

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Patch:
https://tsukihimates.com

>MELTY BLOOD
MELTY BLOOD PC Collection (Original + ReACT + Act Cadenza + Actress Again Current Code):
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
MELTY BLOOD Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
MELTY BLOOD - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S

>Fate
Fate/stay night [Réalta Nua]:
https://nyaa.si/view/1691072
Fate/hollow ataraxia:
https://nyaa.si/view/1732011
Fate/Zero (English)
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/zero.html
Fate/Zero (Japanese):
https://pastebin.com/33E3XfDB
Garden of Avalon
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/GoA.html

>Fate/EXTRA
Fate/EXTRA
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-perfect-patch-hack/
Fate/EXTRA CCC
https://cdromance.com/psp/fate-extra-ccc-jpn/

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/notes.html
Clock Tower 2015:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/clocktower2015.html
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Tsuki no Sango - Coral of the Moon:
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/tsuki-no-sango.html
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
BAMBOO BROOM DIARY (Nasu and Takeuchi blog)
https://tri-hermes.org/bamboo.html
Carnival Phantasm (made in celebration of Type-Moon's 10th anniversary)
https://nyaa.si/view/550820
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Materials
https://tri-hermes.org/materials.html
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca

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Roa route when

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>>46591637
That would make for a pretty interesting route, wouldn't it?

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red garden doko

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>>46591863
>Nasu: btw the way that Archer met Saber is completely different from FSN
>both got stabbed in the heart and was rescued by Saber
>Archer and Fate Shirou remembered that moment in a similar way
I sometimes wonder if Nasu has dementia

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>>46591892
Source?

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>>46591904
Fate/stay night [Heaven’s Feel] I. presage flower Animation Material - Kinoko and Takashi Q & A, p.22
>So, he no longer has the sensation of “what he feels is beautiful” anymore. Just think the “first contact with Saber” was something engraved into his soul as an Art Graph. Also, how that young man met Saber and how he was involved is something completely different from that in stay night.

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>>46591575
kino

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What's best in F/SN: original, RN or mixed text?

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Archer was made to be a househusband

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i'll fucking kill myself

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>>46593451
With proof onegaishimasu.

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>>46593451
>the amount of typemoonfags who are obviously anons and pretending to be offended by slur like fags on twitter
Show your true color, faggots.

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Mahoyo fanarts are always so good

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Based

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What type moon character is the best at sex?

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>this is what Arcueid look like irl

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>>46594401
Sakura because she's a dirty little grandpa and brother fucker

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>>46595033
Don't lie to yourself . You 100% would.

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>>46595232
True

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that Japanese dude that flamed the shit out of the Mahoyo English translation back when it was released just heard about the updated Steam translation and he checked it out and posted this

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>>46596536
I have no idea about the overall quality of the Mahoyo TL but yes that line is completely wrong.

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>>46596536
they all say the same exact same thing?

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>>46596645
original text says the town has nothing remarkable going on and is just urbanized enough to not feel like the complete countryside while the translation make it out to be charming and peculiar for some reason

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>>46596645
¿Puedes siquiera entender inglés?

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>>46596719
it LITERALLY says *truly odd* at the beginning, which is exactly how the town is protrayed throughout the VN, odd and at odds with itself, reflecting Shizuki's character.

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>>46596811
The Japanese text in that line doesn't describe Misaki as odd.

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>>46596811
It doesn't say that the town is odd in that line, it just say Misaki became urbanized enough for the city folks to think "well it's not a complete hick town I guess" while the translation praise the town for it
not saying both can't be true and that this is not not how the town is portrayed in the rest of the vn, just that the translation add things that are not in the original line

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Foursome between Shiki, Miyako, Mio and Akiha

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Threesome between Shiki, Miyako and DA Noel

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Is there somewhere I can read FGO's shitty story online

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>>46596947
it doesn't say the world "odd" but describe something odd which is then brought up constantly the whole game, you're nipictiking and i honestly don't understand why

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>>46597680
>it's EoP feels the need to defend a translation he has consumed episode

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>>46597680
>make up random shit that isn't in the text
>WHY ARE YOU NITPICKING
just learn japanese bro

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this is just so pathetic at this point

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>>46596776
I love this image

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>>46598237
Were you on the aniplex TL team or something?

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Does Arc support homosexuality?

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>https://clips.twitch.tv/MotionlessBloodyPuppyKappa-R4a3oQLN2JH5Jf9i

>not melty but for fgo instead sad

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>>46600609
She's bisexual of course.
No idea how she feels about
>homosexual women
>homosexual men
>bisexual men.

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>>46600609
She seems to ship GudaDantes in Lumina (the 'fate' she cheered him to "meet" or realize was Guda), and Gudao appears in his ending unless she's talking about Gudako.

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>>46600947
She's actually Shikisexual.

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>>46601255
She doesn't even say Fate does she? That doesn't even make sense since they've already met. I would think it's his enemy.

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>removed sex scene
>gave Shirou a foot fetish for some reasons
What did Nasu and Takeuchi mean by this?

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I stopped playing FGO half way through Camelot. Is it worth continuing for the story or should I just spend my time elsewhere in the franchise like Tsukihime?

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>>46602568
Just read his other works if you get bored of FGO shits.

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According to Nasu, Archer is the sexiest character he’s ever made, surpassing even the sexiness of Gilgamesh. There is no one sexier than Archer, is what I am saying.

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>>46602568
Tsukihime is a classic and a must-read.
And you should only read F/GO's story while commuting or in a waiting room like Nasu intended.

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>>46602832
I read it on the toilet.

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>>46602867
Try not to get hemorrhoids bro

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What's wrong with a blond girl visiting you?

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>>46602725
lies

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is the mahoyo steam port supposed to lag this much in the intro or should i finally get a new pc

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>>46602568
The only good Type moon things are:
Tsukihime OG/Remake, Mahoyo and Fate Stay night. The rest of it is self referential slop that cannibalises itself to flanderised degrees.

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Imagine if there were special “useless” crest worms bred purely for…invasive reasons…haha, where would you put them? Haha

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>>46605149
anon’s peehole :)

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>>46605149
my neighbor's yard

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>>46605149
Congratulations you killed the thread with your perverted as fuck post

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>>46606933
Every thread get killed by perverts, at least this one wasn't the usual faggot

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if it was an akiha pervert, this wouldn't have happened

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Why do we give leeway to Akiha perverts but not redman and cu perverts?

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>>46607771
girls cute
other men eww
simple as

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>>46607771
Redman deserves suffering.

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Nasu's wet dream was for Urobuchi to write Zero

>Why would Zero be written by Urobuchi Gen? That is a long story. The relationship between Urobuchi Gen and Fate goes back to 2002.

>I was writing the Fate Saber route at the time, and was sent into the hospital near my house due to illness. Type-Moon was still doujin at the time, and Fate was yet a fledgling draft with four main routes including an Ilya route. Takeuchi, who thought “if only Nasu is doing the work, we’ll never finish it,” asked me: “Is there a writer you find trustworthy, who can write some stories to be inserted into plot?”

>With such thoughts, I began to hook Urobuchi Gen with baits such as “wanna go see a movie together?” Although I was quite happy with Urobuchi’s reply “I’ll definitely do things that interest me,” I still told him “Nah, I was just kidding!.” That was because I suddenly realized I always gave up on projects by being like this, and I must see this one through. Maybe Fate will be the last game that is written solely by me. Therefore I decided to do it myself, and gave up on the plan of seeking his help.

>Then two years passed. It was now the summer of 2004, when Hollow was being developed. When we were developing Hollow, which had many assistant writers creating the plot together, Takeuchi once again surprised me with his words.

>Afterward, we discussed it over and over. A few consecutive meet-ups later, the draft of Volume 1 was finally completed in the winter of 2004.

>Because of that, Urobuchi-san thought “Zero is a story based on Fate. So it’s better if Zero did not become available to the public before Fate is released.” Therefore, after waiting for a year, it was finally released in the winter of 2006. That was how things went.

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>>46601974
She also foreshadows the enemy. But I think she's implying he'll realize that's his fate/destiny. Dantes admitted it blatantly (to other Avengers, not to Guda face) which makes Jeanne Alter blush and say he sure is confident.

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>>46602954
Why is Arcueid the only girl (besides Arihiko) with whom Shiki has a real personality? He's so bland with the other girls

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>>46608267
You're just illiterate.

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>>46608162
IIrc she only says he'll find the person they're looking for at the end and he's already encountered them so this makes little sense to me. Dantes would have already known who she was talking about anyway given how excited he became. It should be his enemy given what Dantes as an avenger is all about(Related to all his important lines here to Shiki for example) and part of why he even set it up as he did. Think you're reading too much into it when them mentioning fate is unrelated. Not sure where the romance angle you're going for from Arc is from. As for anon's question, I doubt she gives a shit about what human monkeys not named Shiki, Ciel and their immediate circle really get up to. I could imagine her wondering why humans do useless things.

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>>46608294
Not saying she'd be anti-homo though. She'd probably grow a dick to dom Ciel during her threesomes with Shiki/Ciel.

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>>46608267
That's just Takeuchi projecting his fetish for blond girls.

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>>46608294
Dantes eternal nemesis being such a shitshow of a character kind of makes Dantes far less cool.

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can she do me next

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>>46608267
Because she's the most self insert friendly girl and doesn't challenge the protagonist in any worthwhile way. That and Arc only fans are usually retarded. Plus Nasu never writes or uses the other heroines in anything worthwhile and constantly has her glued to Shiki invalidating any of the other pairings. Happens alot with babbys first heroine syndrome especially Type moon where they wanna pretend that everything equally matters but give the most preferential treatment to the first heroine

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>>46608983
Nothing of value was said here.

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>>46608983
>they wanna pretend that everything equally matters but give the most preferential treatment to the first heroine
It's not a first heroine exclusive thing. Nasu also favors Sakura, and she is no first heroine.

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>>46608983
>Self insert
See fgo to learn what that is in TM land.
>challenge the protagonist
The story is about them learning to live, discovering truths about themselves and coming to desire more from existence. The challenge comes from their nature as they're like water and oil(in their directives) despite their feelings for one another and the route ties into many different themes and concepts. To come to terms with what he wants and who he is and for her to come into herself and relish in her development. Ciel Route has their own challenges.
>Arc fans retarded
Some are.
>Never writes
They're all in the same shit. This is a weird take.
>Invalidating
Definitely not. They all embody different ideas that come together to enhance Tsuki and are all beautiful.
>Preferential
I mean, kinda? Maybe? If you're going by screen time... eh. If you're going by the inevitability of the narrative looping around to them then I guess so.

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Is this Avalon healing him or is it just his reality marble trying to stitch him back with blades?

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>>46608267
>act tsundere
>muuh real personality!!
typical arcfag with zero reading comprehension (as per usual). scene where shiki chill in the tea room with ciel, the two learning about each other through actual meaningful conversations are infinitely more interesting, and tells me more about what i need to know about shiki (shiritori scene kino). red garden can't come soon enough. guaranteed good heroines, shiki's origin story, demon hunter/oni stuff, more noel/ciel, mio, goto, and so on. basically kino contents await us far side chads. and you know what is the best part? arcueid will be irrelevant in most of this. we literally fucking won.

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I fucking love white women

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>>46609312
Takeuchi, please contain yourself.

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I fucking love white men

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I fucking love white people

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>>46609307
Imagine trying to manufacture wars between Tsuki heroines. Never gonna work since Shiki(Tohno) is best girl.

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>>46609307
>talks about new chracters not even mentioning akiha,hisui,kohaku
Fake fans

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>>46609307
Don't give a shit. Arc x Shiki is and always has been the best pairing with the best interactions.
I'm just waiting for Sacchin route and Arc's True desu.

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Are people excited about anime adaptation anymore?
With the type of retards that the Ufotable fate anime attracted, I sometimes wonder if we should wish for a tsukihime adaptation.

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Shirou is moderately attractive

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>>46609734
He is the most attractive teen at his school, cope. Wait until you see him flip over the bar.

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>>46609625
>Arc's True
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>46609913
It's about as tangible as Red Garden at this point.

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>>46609312
You will never fuck a white woman, Takeuchi.

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>>46609920
>it's the pathetic arcfag that think tsukihime 2 is as likely as red garden
lol

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>>46610047
>it's the retarded far sidefag acting cocky when Red Garden doesn't even have a release schedule
lol

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Arc's route is the only good route in og tsukihime, Ciel is also decent I guess
I don't get how retards manage to prefer far side, nothing ever happens it's just shiki sleeping in bed for 70% of the route and it's trying to be all mystery and shit even though you already know most of the answers since the very first route , shiki getting paranoid of being the killer for the 10005th time even though you now from the start he's not made me want to shoot myself (until that time where he actually killed people but it's never ever brought up again)
And no having rape as a (you're sole) backstory doesn't make you interesting, but apparently just having a rape victim in a vn make retards cry their eyes out every time

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>>46610114
>release schedule
the absolute state of tm newfag

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>>46610169
Korean Ciel spammer has been here for a while.

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>>46610215
Do Korean Ciel spammer try to invalidate other routes? I only remember him posting about Ciel power level craps.

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>>46610169
Why does this smug face continue to piss me off even after so many years

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>>46610268
Both far side and near side fags try to invalide each other's routes. Don't kid yourself.

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Why don't you two tards suck each other off and hug in your shared misery of no sign of kino continuing as of 2024.

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>>46610285
It’s the face he makes when Rin goes down on him

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>>46609653
Not excited about the type of people it might attract but I'm looking forward to watching it. If nothing else at least the action sequences should be good.

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>>46608267
>Shiki
>bland
>ever
He's based psychopath and I don't say it as a joke. He makes Shirou look like completely sane individual.

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>>46610775
It's just a retarded arcfag who like Nasu tries to shove the Shiki x Arc thing down everyone's throats when the later stuff is far more interesting than "uwu I'm a le generic vampire who's not like other vampires who simps for you now."
Faggots like them and that brain dead Brazilian with shit art are so afraid of the VN pivoted towards much more interesting avenues that don't involve Arc that they're coping about muh true route so hard

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>>46611072
>Nasu tries to shove the Shiki x Arc thing down everyone's throats
I am still kinda surprised that it's not Takeuchi who push this.

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>>46610775
Shiki is bland because he is me.

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>>46611152
I think people overstate Takeuchi's heroine influence. Nasu clearly has a first heroine = the most and bested important ever whilst doing very little interesting things because it's route 1

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>>46611192
He doesn't seem to shove Saber x Shirou down everyone throat though. Even in FGO, he turned into a grandpa and grand daughter relationship instead.

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>>46611072
Don't get me wrong, I love Arc x Shiki. It's just that even on his own, remake Shiki is least bland TM protag in my opinion. And that's even before we get to actually dive deep into his psyche in Red Garden. Dude is so broken as a person that when Roa started to awake inside him and Shiki decided that best way is to kill himself along with Roa so he won't hurt anyone, he didn't even hesitate for a second. Pulls out the knife and stab it into his throat in one motion. What saved him was his promise to Aoko to live.jpg which subconsciously stopped his hand.

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Reminder Arc and Shiki are destined lovers across all space-time.

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>>46611214
This.

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>>46611214
There's nothing wrong with that, Arc and Shiki's character fundamentally parallel each other on many levels, so the intention is pretty blatant from the start, but to pretend that there's nothing else going on in the story when it's clear that Nasu is rewriting the far side by adding a lot of new stuff that will be dealt with in the upcoming routes is weird. At this point, you are only interested in Arc stuff, but not the part that Nasu labels as Tohno Shiki's own origin story. Just might as well just whale for Arc in the gacha and pretend she loves us (you), it's the same shit.

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>Fights the strongest being in nasuverse going berserk, with the entire world on the brink of destruction
>pulls the craziest fucking stunts and literally burns his body in the process to reach victory
>In the end says being with you is always so much fun.
Based or what?

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Shirou x Shiki

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>>46611337
Gary stu. If Guda does stupid shit like this you moan but when it's your bland self insert it's ok.

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>>46611369
Canon and based

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>>46611406
When guda doing shit like this he gets carried by servants which sacrifice themselves for him/her, says 3 lines of text in total and in the end everyone act like he did something worthy.

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>>46611406
First of all, my F/GO character is not called "Guda", but "netorase". Secondly, this topic already got covered several times in the past, so I'll just quote what Nasu mentioned about this a few months ago:

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>>46611369
Canon and cute

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i only care about Mahoyo

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>>46608294
>IIrc she only says he'll find the person they're looking for at the end and he's already encountered them so this makes little sense to me.
No, the wording in nip is the one Dantes used to described Guda in the end of ID.
Arc was talking about Guda. And Dantes was talking about Shiki despite both already "there." Might be a realization of sorts.
Dantes was NOT looking at Cagliostro. He already dealt with him. Cagliostro specifically targetted Guda because they are Dantes' hope.

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I only care about Alice and my boy Soujuurou

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>>46608357
Cagliostro had basically become like Kama in Ooku at the end of ID. While he's not as cool as Dantes, he was pretty much OP and having a perfect plan if hadn't been for Guda being clingy and busting in. FGO had these issues of hit and miss chapters. Including for Guda. ID had a lot of introspection and character development for Guda, and actually dwelled on close bonds with Servants that were developed (as opposed as gacha ex machina) so felt more personal and hit harder. Shame the next chapter is guaranteed a miss.

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>>46612635
Can you post proof/scenes for your interpretation for once. Dantes only said her journey would reach a pleasant end.

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>>46613175
https://apps.atlasacademy.io/db/JP/script/0400032430
Also the previous scenes with Cagliostro (when he stabs Guda and later). Dantes' destination is Guda. The one fated to meet after a long journey.
It's basically the scene of the FGO anniversary trailer but actually spelled aloud for Dantes.
He didn't expect Cagliostro around or was looking for him. He already beat his ass in the past. That's why Cag was salty about it.

I'll be honest when Arc said those lines I assumed he was going to meet Haydee again (I never thought she meant an enemy, only that he'll fight an enemy on his way to a reunion), but they just reaffirmed Haydee is not for the Servant Dantes. And Guda is their fated person instead.
I think it was just foreshadowing the generic ID theme and Dantes' entire arc there. Even if Arc said it to the other Dantes. The one in ID was the one in Guda's head since the Tower. He finally arrived at Chaldea in the new form. I guess it could be a reference to this?

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>>46612656
The weakness of FGO is that there are a lot of cast and Servants which of course, it's a gacha, but really doesn't work to build personal bonds for everyone. Nitocris Alter is a great character in LB7 but she was "there" in ID like Gorgon (good antagonist in Babylonia), Lobo and Taira. There's just around as the background with the focus on Dantes and Jeanne Alter (both got voiced lines after all), with Salieri and Marie Alter as important pieces of the plot and more in relation to Cagliostro and Mozart than Guda. Still it works because the bond with Dantes and Jeanne Alter is strong for most of the audience.

OC1 didn't work because, outside Kamafags and diehard Sakurafags and Ranifags, nobody gave a shit about that chapter.

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>>46613326
What part of what Arc says indicates anyone in specific? The realization angle makes nlittle sense when they've both already met and Dantes states they saw something in you. Also remember servants are vestiges of the past and bound by it.

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>>46612656
The weaknesses of FGO are legion.
>>46612656
Cag being Dantes sworn enemy does him no favors since he's a plagiarizing clown. A bottom of the barrel cartoon character. And FGO is miss 99% of the time with 2 "hits" over a decade that are mid by TM standards. The bonds with servants and the camera along with any "character development" being good is illusory. You had a fabricated setting made to manipulate the player into understanding the class which results in the same status quo anyway(and a very poor resolution about 2/3rd way through). Recall why they're written with the most basic characterization. It's so you the average player can associate with your avatar.

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>muh heroine route is the only valid one
Eat a dick

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>>46613771
They all connect together to bolster one singular story. It's part of why only the VNs can reach those peaks as everything is seamlessly weaved together and focused.

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>>46611337
The goat. The True End served to enhance the characters and relationships immensely while retaining emotional weight, terror and having higher stakes(For the world and personal) than anything else I can think of.

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>>46613971
This is correct.

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>>46613971
Now if only everyone see it this way.
Fate got it really bad with some fags dismissing the other two routes.

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>>46614037
I see this all the time unfortunately.
Look at TsukiR where reader understanding is built around Arc as a basis and then expands on the characters by focusing on entirely different aspects of them and their dynamic. Or just look how we can learn to appreciate the conflicts of the relationship between Arc and Shiki and this helps put into context the relationship with Roa and Arc, Roa's true feelings in Ciel Normal then Ciel True Route having Broa and Shiki acting towards a unified goal of saving Arc. How all this will tie into RG with all the foreshadowing and new plot lines probably doesn't need to be said.

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>>46613326
>was going to meet Haydee again
Well she is the big reveal as the narrator/thoughts throughout the chapter at the end(lol). The last time we see her is probably not coincidentally the same location Dantes(As a shadow/voice) appears at the end.

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>>46594388
Source? Thanks in advance.

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>>46613686
Cag's beef with Dantes is all one sided. He's obsessed with Dantes. But Dantes doesn't give a shit. Support Super Dantes can three turn him. Easiest as fuck boss fight ever.

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>>46611442
イキリ鯖太郎
Never forget.

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>>46614370
>gameplay
Why are you retarded.

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>>46613625
NTA, but my guess was either Haydee or the Original Dantes gets to be playable at fucking last, or Dantes gets a new class alt out Avenger. So it was the second (with some of the first and last). The thing about FGO is that the Dantes with more screen time never became playable but, instead, he's been stuck in Fujimaru's head for fucking years.
>What part of what Arc says indicates anyone in specific?
It's contextual: because there's always been a "what goes beyond the flames of love and hate" that has been integral to his character since the beginning because in his novel he leaves that behind to travel with Haydee. This unknown destination. Arc saying he'll finally reach it, made me think it'll address something about what lies beyond. It's hope. Haydee for the original one and Fujimaru for the Servant one the one who gave them this.
>Also remember servants are vestiges of the past and bound by it.
There is the implication you can't summon Dantes because he's more a mechanism of the world as the "most famous avenger" (the spirit of vengeance itself). It's not explicit, but the way Dantes speaks sometimes was that it would have been impossible. Keep in mind that the one who invoked him was Goetia. He usually goes to places other Servants can't. Even Abigail with all her power needed his key/authorization for the waste hole. While he was based on that Edmond Dantes, the "king of the cavern" evolved beyond it and is his own thing now.

I think that Nasu wants him to get ties with TM lore as a whole rather than his own niche. Not just with Roa, but his introduction was the antagonist for the KnK event.

>>46613686
Cagliostro is still super fucking smart. You may not like him, but he was a cunning villain. He just couldn't outsmart Dantes.
Plus you forgot Dantes faced Theodoric and Wild Hunt in life, and they were on the level of the machina gods according to ID (seems pretty fucking ridiculous).

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>>46614410
He still got burned the hell by himx2. The "rivalry" began with Cagliostro getting angry because Dantes' vengeance quest got in the way of his scams.

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>>46614294
That Haydee is a portion of Dantes, rather than an independent being. But sure. It's for the better, she would have gotten mega cucked otherwise.

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>>46614420
Hope makes more sense than shipshit but it's poorly realized through that scene since that's a nebulous idea. And again, what they see in you is why they're together in the first place not something he should be surprised about or a person being sought so... Haydee does make the most sense in that context since she represents his affection and the fragment of his heart that he's forever lost as all Avengers can do is burn and why you leave them behind. Either way hopefully they all stay gone or one of the few moments of any impact will be wasted again.

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>>46614420
>Smart
My discount villain who played himself in the end like a retard is so moe.
>Gods
Worthless at this point. But sure, Dantes is strong, no problem with that.

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>>46614449
Mash is you're driving force, boiling point and salvation. Dantes is your dad, accomplice, and who you irrevocably split from since they're a bad influence. I'm so sorry.

[Anonymous No.]

If Shirou traced Nanatsu Yoru, what would he gain? Would his body break down trying to do Nanaya techniques and aerial stuff?

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>>46614916
It's the weapon which moves so he would perform downgraded 236 and break his arm in 20 places but wouldn't be able to use any movement techniques

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>>46611337
fighting a shirtless vampire in a school hallway was more fulfilling that this trash

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>>46611442
So have a bloated fight scene where Shiki pulls random abilities out of his ass somehow makes it better than gachashit? Same tier of writing.

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>>46615057
They're both great..
>>46615057
nta, It's less of a fight scene and primarily more of a multiple hour display of character and thematic exploration while the world ends. It's the ultimate payoff that realizes impossiblilities that had been set up in other routes. Shiki also earned this result and the 'fight' was a thrilling display of how absurd and precarius of a situation the world is in now that ae has been 'broken' free of her emotional restraints. Always one moment away from the end and it conveys the powerlessness of humanity before the might of nature perfectly while also emphasizing the hope and merits of humanity's persistance while decorated with Tsuki's unique trappings.

You're also being disingenuous about pulling abilities out of nowhere. He had spent the better part of the route becoming progressively transformed as a vampire as he fused with Roa. This comes with a very harrowing showing of the process including the bodily changes through Shiki, Noel and Ciel. We also wttness the growth of his abilities and how the human view is a major limiting factor that diminishes the more he uses his blood. If you're annoyed that Shiki can adapt and learn quickly, consider that Roa is a genius that makes your favorite scholar/mage look like they ride the tiny bus to school and is whose memories Shiki has. He's got a good teacher. He himself is also a genius on par with Roa(in a different way). Ciel True is a far better "fight" and show of writing than the entirety of FGO, yes.

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>>46615281
They're both great was for>>46615052

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>>46611285
>pretend
baka @ the number of people who don't understand this character and the significance of her lacking autonomy without 'mistakes'.

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they will not make her into a slut like hag scat

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>>46616031
>hag
And Lancer is technically a DILF you faggot idiot

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>>46616031
Wasn't Scathach already a slut in her original legend?

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What a weird selection for the collab?

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>>46616603
Lancer didn’t know he had a kid until he killed him.

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>>46616761
It's not like they all need to appear. It is probably an indication of how much of a non-serious event it will be though. Like KnK..

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>>46616761
>F/HA cast, KnK cast and a some sluts
What is Nasu cooking?

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>>46616960
mid

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>>46616761
what a boring selection

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Most heroic spirits are used goods / have had kids

Not worth the drama

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>>46616603
What a young dad he is

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>>46616761
Seiba and Redman is spared

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>>46617419
Guess Redman's ass is game then

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>>46617548
men can’t get pregnant silly

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What was the name of that 3d game that Aoko and Alice appeaded long ago.

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>>46609232
I have asked myself the same question, mostly because in HF, his swords coming out is UBW trying to heal him properly but failing to do so.

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>>46618367
lord of vermillion 3

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>>46616761
I'm onlt interested in chances of getting more lore on the Fifth Magic.

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What are the First and Fourth Magics?

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>>46619852
I'm hoping we don't get more than gameplay descriptions. Make the fucking sequels.

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>>46619852
Not interested in seeing the characters again?

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>>46619975
You know it's not happening in our lifetime.

>>46620017
Obviously. But that goes without saying.

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>Good characters utilized in trash to extend gamba's lifespan
>Shit story with characters that shouldn't even be interacting and presentation.
>potentially using material for lorefags that should be introduced in a work that matters
>Coloring the general perception of the cast based on the above since 98% of the audience won't have any understanding or care for the source material.
Literally nothing to look forward to.
>>46620184
The only reason its not happening is because gamba exists. Still better to have it turned into a movie or anime or novel than consoom shit.

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If you were a crestworm, whose ass would you slither up into? be 100% truthful here

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>>46620777
I just want to live in Tohsaka's anus.
It's all I've ever wanted.

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>>46620777
Why are you like this, wormfag?

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>>46620777
Shirou’s ass deserves to be explored.

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>>>/vg/474000000

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>>46621798
Degenerate self-insert fags
>>46621481
Canon virgin whose afraid of sex.

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>>46615281
>Ciel True is a far better "fight" and show of writing than the entirety of FGO, yes.
I don't even like FGO but LB6 is way better than ciel true. Ciel true is the biggest example we have of Nasu brain rot. That shit was so terrible it actually reduced my rating for the remake

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>>46622311
What makes LB6 good? Did they finally develop the protag or the other characters carried it?

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>>46621798
This explains everything desu

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>>46622311
Definitely not. Ciel True was pure kino from start to finish and the only complaints I've seen are people who got turned off by the scale while completely ignoring everything about it. Personal problems.
>>46622329
Of course they didn't.
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>>46622311
>>46622311
>Ciel true is the biggest example we have of Nasu brain rot
Why? The anon you replied to provided an indepth explanation on the merits of Ciel's true. Whereas you're just saying Ciel's true is bad because it just is.
Please provide an explanation.

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Stop ruining the other boards you retarded fucking dorks god I hate you

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>>46622329
it's a FGO chapter that has next to zero fucking connection to the rest of the game and is just Nasu releasing a fantasy novel

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>>46622359
Oh yeah? How about you fucking make us.

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>>46622354
>The anon you replied to provided an indepth explanation on the merits of Ciel's true.
He wrote a bunch of pretentious word salad to justify why 3 hours of giant naked arc trying to vore Shiki is actually deep

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>>46622359
????????

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>>46622362
what about the cuck lion I heard about?

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>>46622372
I'm assuming he's talking about the Neko Arc thread on /v/.

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>>46622372
I’m assuming he’s talking about the Ciel brap thread on /b/

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>>46622371
Are you trolling? You still haven't explained why his points aren't valid. Your buzzwords aren't helping here. So I can only assume you're a troll,

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>>46622382
>check thread
>lots of posts about Chile
Very based

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>>46622410
But they all want to nuke Chile.

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>>46622417
And that's based

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>>46622422
Can't argue with that.

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>>46622371
It really is desu. It's crazy how important Ciel True Route is to Arc's character and relationship with Shiki for example and that's only one factor. It really goes in depth on exactly what he did to her on a tangible level and why her newfound freedom and prioritization of emotion sets her apart from other TA. Her conscious mind has changed as her defenses have been broken and she no longer is restricted by the TA dress code. Her pride as a TA is in shambles and it's wonderful because she now has things that truly belong to her, born of her and Shiki, rather than what she's received from the planet. She's no longer a being of the past but one whose been pulled into the present and can seek desire and meaning of her own accord. This is an inconceivable and impossible change that's every which way categorized as a system error of the planet. Broken as a mechanism, she is now essentially indistinguishable from any human with a strong ego. Her actions convey that selfishness(self-interest) unbefitting of what should be an objective administrator, protector and system. But it's just vore, right?

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>>46621798
gachanigs being mentally ill is a pretty well known issue

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>>46622353
>Personal problems.
being unable to look through your own biases to acknowledge criticisms of something you like is your personal problem, not whoever you're arguing with.

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>>46623081

[Anonymous No.]

>It's been 24 years since Tsukihime
>It's been 22 years since Melty Blood
>It's been 20 years since Fate/Stay Night
>It's been 19 years since Fate/Hollow Ataraxia
>It's been 18 years since Fate/Zero Novels
>It's been 16 years since Kara no Kyōkai: Paradox Spiral was animated by ufotable
>It's been 14 years since DEEN UBW
>It's been 12 years since 魔法使いの夜 Mahōtsukai no Yoru released
>It's been 12 years since Fate/Zero was animated by ufotable
>It's been 10 years since ufo UBW
>It's been 9 years since FGO

Where did the time go bros?

[Anonymous No.]

Post your favorite scene from Nasu's VNs

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>>46624042

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>>46624042
Nasu's best written romance

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>>46624234
>>46624234
Why was Ciel clowned on before remake?

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>>46624264
>wanting to live your life to help others can’t possibly be wrong
Until Nasu tried to cram the HF message with the interviews because muh return to reality and be a human crap

[Anonymous No.]

I want to be crushed by hercules thighs so bad

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>>46624525
This but Arcueid's instead

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>>46624525
You wouldn’t survive that

[cockrobin No.]

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>>46623081
It's hilarious how Tsuki R haters still can't come up with any real criticisms

[Anonymous No.]

If type moon never existed the human race would be 8.50% less gay
I’ve done the math

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>>46625011
Math is gay.

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>>46625011
Did TM save your life or something?

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But I’m GAR not gay

[Anonymous No.]

I thought I was in love with Seiba.
I was wrong.
I was in love with Garcher.

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>>46625093
But I was wrong again.
I was just in love with swords.

[Anonymous No.]

Shirou is canonically bi-curious

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sword curious

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Lance curios Archer

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>>46625240
no
>>46625380
disgusting and non canon

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is he the sexiest male tsukihime character

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>>46625432
Maaaaybe

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>>46625380
There is no hotter ship than this according to my girlfriend.

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>>46625510
>girlfriend
Get out

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Do you guys think me watching 2006 fate anime, then UBW, then HF, then Zero is a good idea?
I'm only interested in the mainline stuff.
I'd really rather watch anime but should I read Fate route in the VN instead of watching the deen show?

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>>46625933
read the visual novel

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Apparently /tmg/ like Dantes, what are other fgo character that /tmg/ like?

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Don’t pretend you wouldn’t have gay sex with Archer had he asked

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>>46627059
Good to know that we'll still have fender stratocasters even after the world ends

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emiya deserves happiness

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>>46625011

if type moon maid a type moon slut club with all the girls expect fgo sluts there would be probably more respect for women.

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>>46627913
English, do you speak it?

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>>46627913
>ESL babble

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>Type-Moonfag
>English first language
Pick one and only one

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>>46628047
I'm both.

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>>46627913

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>>46628047
I'm ESL but I like to think people can at least understand what I'm saying.

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>>46628091
No you're not

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>>46628183
Yes I am. I only speak English.

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>>46622727
So basically just the original route but two extra hours of inane exposition to explain why the ditzy blonde fell in love with nihonjin ochinchin after interacting with him for like a week. Ends the same as the OG too lol.

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>>46624968
your refusal to accept criticism doesnt mean it doesnt exist lol

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>>46628348
You haven't offered any constructive criticism. You've simply sad stuff is bad because it is, but you've yet to explain why in a meaningful way.

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>>46628047
why are they doing this to him

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>>46627163
I would only have heterosexual sex with Miyako

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>>46628336
>like a week
Try rereading remake while remembering the sort of being Arc actually is if you think their connection started only when she came to the city.
>same as OG
>basically the original
It is a branch off the Ciel route. It does more than add context and depth to the relationship between Arc and Shiki. It's the ribbon that ties Near Side together. A natural progression of Ciel's moonbow as she who longed for death now fears it and struggles against what seems like an inevitability in order to live and move forward again. A display of love and understanding of Shiki that challenges Arc's.
Seeing her battle and the lengths she'd go to, even further sacrificing her humanity(whereas she had only wanted to die as a human) and risking a fate worse than death was beautiful progression of her character, relationship with Shiki and rivalry with Arc. All while showing the heights mankind can reach relative to transcendentals(Nature/Gods and religious motifs also come into this with the Luminary system and her as an Executor). Man's determination and perseverance in the face of the overwhelming forces that exceed their imagination. (Connects to Shiki who embodies this best of all at the end as he gradually bends the forces of nature and survives the primordial earth as a microcosm of humanity's voyage, even taking a trip to the origin as a fragment of Roa's moonbow appears.).

Shiki's overcoming the impossible while running on all gauges empty to achieve an ending(miracle) he'd be satisfied with(finally). This naturally plays off the idea that the tragedy of the prior route stems from the error Shiki makes(with the best of intentions to free Ciel/Arc) in choosing to die with Roa rather than doggedly cling to his degrading life. An error in the moment that sealed off the future he had desired but taught him(and the reader) valuable truths and sets him on the path to achieving a unparalleled miracle that his previous life couldn't even conceive of(While different from resurrection in Ciel Normal, Ciel True is him achieving miracles one after the other). Him showing the fragility of such a grand concept as perfection and that the only absolute is death(I don't need to explain how this underpins everything right? He comes to accept his power as a reassurance and proof of normality amid the abnormal world that Arc's rampage has brought about. Shiki as the one who walks a boundary in many ways.) in the awakening of Arc from her dream. Crossing the boundary and becoming that which he hates in order to hold onto everything he's gained. Rejecting the dream(fiction) in favor of reality, which references a major reoccurring concept in Tsuki, especially in how it loops back to Arc route's what ifs, lies(prologue) and what will inevitably be Arc True as he stacks w's and regains what he's been deprived of(RG routes coming in hot).

Roa finally being able to change after 800 years and understand his own feelings... putting the exclamation point on his journey throughout history. The way his reincarnation, which you could say a lot about, allows him to encounter and relate towards Shiki as the two men who loved perfection is so well done and the true route is what allows these enemies to join hands and seek the same destination. I'm not even doing a good job of touching on everything or their significance desu. Maybe give it another try since there is a lot more going on than you appreciated. I feel stupid for taking the time to write this but longfightbad is so dumb.

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>>46629892
>effortposting against the nihonjin ochinchin shitposter
the hero we don't deserve

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>>46629892

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>>46629892
The shitposter doesn't deserve such a 10/10 post.
Really nicely put.

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Hear me out, this is the biggest plot twist in Typemoon.
It will be revealed that Soujuurou is saved by Aoko but ultimately fated to be dead anyway, thus he is in the boundary of life and death.
Due to Aoko's 5th magic time fuckery, he is thrown back in time to avoid death, when he continued to live from Mesopotamian age of god to Middle Age.
He remembers the God Aoko once mentioned and at some points started to devote his life to that God. Eventually, he, an assassin himself, founded the Order of the Assassin.
When people asked who he is, he remembered his home aka the mountain, and answered "Old man of the mountain", The First Hassan I Sabbah.

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>>46630090
it's so fucking dumb that's entirely possible with nasu.

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no one loves archer more than me

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>>46625432
I think they're all good looking. Shiki is really hot especially when he's being "more barbaric than any DA". Kiri is basically the same. Kouma, Vlov, Zepia really hot. Nrvnqsr is veiny but I bet he'll be sexed-up in Remake. Roa/SHIKI is obvious. Arihiko is best boy, pulls bitches and even Mario and crew is looking good(Andou the most average but he's Adachi so I love him). Karius is really nice. Saiki is the obvious oddball but I bet he'll be cool as fuck(as if he already wasn't) and wouldn't be surprised if he was a mixed blood hottie before he became Shishio. Van Fem will be even better when he's got edge added to him in Tsuki. Only not hot dude is probably Kugamine. Even Jinan got that naughty dilf vibe. Makihisa can eat a dick though.

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>>46628516
i have in past threads and you immediately dismissed it for daring to not find Nasu's latest overly chuunishit laser battle and retarded love story enjoyable.

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>>46629892
so basically the same as the original but with chuunishit le moral and le themes instead of good character writing and believable relationships. nasu can write all the gachashit tier lore and laser battles he wants, it doesnt fundamentally change that the relationship between Arc, Shiki, and Ciel is just as badly conceived as it was 20 years ago. i was actually amazed that he added so much shit without improving the foundation of their relationships, not that i really expected much from nu-Nasu anyway, but to add so much without acknowledging the underlying flaws of Near Side as a whole just reeked of mediocrity.

i wanted a better near side, not near side++++++++. it actually makes me wonder how he's gonna do hisui's route considering its just shiki schizoing in his bed for a few weeks. then again, he'll probably make it so that SHIKI takes over at night and incinerates orphanages or something.

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>>46630623
>(Connects to Shiki who embodies this best of all at the end as he gradually bends the forces of nature and survives the primordial earth as a microcosm of humanity's voyage, even taking a trip to the origin as a fragment of Roa's moonbow appears.).
oh, and btw, this sounds incredibly fucking gay. i dont want le gods or le myths or le peak of humanity or le perfection or le transcendentals. i want a believable and enjoyable relationship between two characters and both Near Sides didnt give me that but at least the OG was mercifully short and not huffing its own farts with its dogshit lore.

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>"You should know. Your wish will not come true unless there is a clear evil. Even if it is not something you approve of, a superhero requires a villain to defeat."

>"!"
>I feel like everything has turned black.
>The priest said it.
>The greatest wish and the ugliest wish I have are the same.

>…Yes, the desire to protect something,
>…Is, at the same time, none other than the wish for something to violate it.

>"Y-You…"
>But there's no way I'd wish for something like that.
>I don't remember a moment when I've wished for that.
>Such an insecure wish…
>…Just means the target ideals are inconsistent.
>But the priest says as if to pierce my heart, "Good thing you have an enemy now."

>"No, you do not have to gloss over it. Your worries are right for a human being."
>"!"
>I shake off the priest's words and walk to the door.

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>>46630623
>le moral and le themes
According to Nasu, themes are essentially everything. Stellar character/relationship writing is all there anyway and it goes beyond just the three of them.

Arc is obvious even to the willfully ignorant but how does one not appreciate all the subtle development for Ciel and Shiki? Did you miss how she's got self-hate and shame? Shiki's puppy-dog behavior(You seem to like slice of life parts so you should have picked up on this) is helping to positively enforce and change her opinions on herself and overwrite the fact that her immortality is a reminder of her sins as a victim of Roa. By the end she's asking the very body she hated for forgiveness and to not give up on her. Despite Shiki's feelings for vampires and his recognition(he was unconsciously trying to disassociate her from vampires), he accepts her for who she is and doesn't give a fuck because he loves her. He spends the story propping her self-esteem up which is exactly what she needed.

Roa is a snake that taints all he touches and whose obsession of immortality and eternity left behind an exceptional body whose nearly perfectly immortal. What he would find beauty and value in is what she found vile and disgusting. Something linked solely to sin, humiliation and tragedy. Her stolen humanity, her stolen normal life and even her stolen capability to die. She stopped living not so unlike the Dead, trapped by the past. And it's through her relationship with Shiki, who challenges her own disregard for herself that she witnesses her rainbow in the night and returns to being human. She finds her purpose.

They both find meaning within each other. He pays it forward in the end, reinforcing her own wish for atonement and the beliefs that saved him from despair. That glimpse of happiness and the life she could have had is represented by Shiki and while she doesn't believe it's her place or that she even can find forgiveness, Shiki is there to pull her forward with an unwavering heart. He who should prioritize himself above all else chooses to live and die for her, staying beside her on her journey, hoping the day will come when she forgives herself and having faith in her until the end. He's her miracle who embraced her as no one else could when she felt as if she deserved nothing. What animates her is the desire to prove his feelings are not misplaced.

His faith in her is why there is a bad end by taking things into his own hands and ending the fight with Noel early out of a selfish desire to spare Ciel pain. He understood, observant as he is, that it was not his story to end and instead prepares for the rightful star. The dynamic between Noel and Shiki here deserve its own exploration as they're two characters vying for the leading role(Nanaya stuff) which makes Shiki's choice all the more weighty. The one to put an end to it all had to be Ciel who he fought tirelessly for, always believing in her ability to triumph over the nightmares of the past that bound her. It was that belief, love and hope for their future that lets her awaken to reality and start truly living.

Pointing out how unique Shiki and Ciel are since they're literally the same person on some level through the process of becoming Roa. Shiki received the memories and records of Elesia as if they were his own. Toss in the trip down memory lane via Noel and you should see how unique their relationship is and the connection that is shared as hosts of Roa.

Moreover, Arc has a moment that Shiki falls in love with and is brought back to time and again, Ciel also has a comparable moment. That of an executor fighting a lonely, thankless yet heroic battle to protect everyone. Shiki admired that and would fall in love with it. He saw the truth of that moment before he understood it. The sorrow of a girl no different than any other, tears in her eyes and possessing a pain that he somehow understood. Of course he would, he's lost everything himself, even his past and capability to know his own loss. He sees her as the most important and lives for her. Their love for each other is complete, an appreciation both of the body and the heart. Of course as we see, she's not one to lose on love and will just as readily sacrifice it all for him. It's heavy and beautiful. Their love is that strong and the ending they arrive at in Ciel True was both hard fought, well earned and fulfilling. No matter the trials that await, they'll get through it together. Two sinners living the 'journey'/state of being of atonement. The fun has just begun.

Love is the ultimate power and answer to humanity's journey. The banal answer to life. When all else fails, Shiki will never run dry on love. They're cute and loveable as fuck together. The relationship gets full marks.

As I typed this, I realize how similar Shiki and Roa are in how they both have these images of the ones they love burned into the pages of their souls to never fade. Remake is actually a generational work.

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>>46631575
Ran out of room. Give Remake a few rereads. I'm sure I still haven't appreciated everything there is myself as evidenced by the end there. That's enough from me though I think?

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>>46629892
>>46631575
so much effort for a retarded eop who peaked at japanese with "nihonjin" and "ochinchin"

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>>46632021
Someone should put these on the Arc Blackboard image like that one about Idea Bloods.

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>>46632088
Whiteboard*

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Rin pegs Archer every Friday night

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>>46630090
I would kneel and scream kino

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Rip Arcueid

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>>46632752
Based Redman for saving us from the white women menace

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>>46632021
Nihonjin ochinchinbro. Our response?

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>>46632752
>a few seconds later
https://youtu.be/7Xwgxy7aDS8?t=1h16m14s

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>>46633172
based Garcher making white women happy except for saber

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>>46633172
She's just too powerful.

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>>46633241
You mean cute

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>>46633314
That too. Arc can be both powerful, and cute.

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>>46634017
Kino

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>>46626930
I like all LB6 cast (Morgan, the fae knights, Oberon, Castoria, the npcs) and I wish Nasu had made some AU rpg fantasy game with them.
Also like Solomon, King Hassan, and Merlin (Nasu considers him FGO original, so he was probably made for it).
The Crypters are all cool too. Wish we have their non-FGO versions.
I used to like Olga but the U-Olga clownery was too much for me.

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>>46634763
>>46626930
I forgot about Batman. Camazotz is fucking cool. Dino Shiki was fine too.

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>>46614682
It was shipshit, though. He compares his feelings with Jeanne Alter's for Guda who is mega shipshit. I'm fine with it because it's one of the two bonds actually explored. Guda also felt like a character in ID.
> Haydee does make the most sense in that context since she represents his affection and the fragment of his heart that he's forever lost as all Avengers can do is burn and why you leave them behind.
Haydee is a fragment of hope, or something. Cagliostro targetted Guda because they are Dantes' current hope. I do think this plays better if it's female Guda than male one. Guess Dantes has a thing for gingers/redheads.

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>>46626930
>>46634763
>>46634784
Oberon, Castoria and the mexican servants are all really cool.
I wish fairies and latin america were real.

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>>46626930
LB7 is arguably the best chapter. Tez, Kuku, the Deinos, Cam all good. Tepeu is unironically the best of them and that's not just cause Tsuki clears. Best scenes in the chapter are Tepeu&Mash, Tepeu&Kuku both at the end, and Tez time talk.

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>>46626930
NGL but I like Jeanne Alter a lot too. Even if she's fanfic.
Characters I like too are all the Crypters, Romani, Gordito (who comes from Apocrypha but his characterization is here), Marisbilly could be interesting. Woodwose was fucking cool too.
Male Servants: First Hassan, Tezca, Oberon, Solomon, Camazotz if he counts. Dantes too.
Female Servants: Morgan, Barghest, Bob, Castoria, Jeanne Alter, Shuten, I also like Marie...I don't know why.

All the Guda Guda cast is great in general. But that's the author doing his own thing. It's the FGO thing with consistent quality.

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>>46634876
LB6 is better written. LB7 had cool ideas but I think Nasu's health took a toll on his writing.

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>>46626930
He's my favorite.
From Servants, I think old Moriarty is very cool. He would be fun to summon in a Grail War.

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>>46635247
He only got ill after he finished it.

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>>46635247
why is LB6 rated this much anyway? i found the whole thing to be extremely bloated. is this because the whole game is dogshit so anything above average is considered to be good?

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>>46635386
>is this because the whole game is dogshit so anything above average is considered to be good?
This is my suspicion whenever someone says anything positive about FGO.

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>>46635401
>>46635386
This is the reality. Just look at a couple of the autismo posts in this thread. The core works manhandle the gacha. Unironically the two headliner chapters are enhanced by having read his better works.

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>>46635247
I preferred 7 and it doesn't seem like an unpopular opinion.

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>>46635386
The characters were interesting and it had lots of Nasu lore autism.
It wasn't mind-blowing, but it was definitely a fun read.

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>>46632021
>rance poster
opinion discarded

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>>46635958
I thought we loved Rance here?

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>>46635331
No, he was sick for a long time. He just passed out after that.

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>>46636480
What makes you say that?

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>>46635386
Because it was Nasu's Game of Thrones, without as many incest and sex scenes. The interesting parts were the world building. His book for LB6 (the only chapter he published a special book about it), shows each Clan symbol too. It would make a great RPG fantasy story.
Modding your character to belong to a fairy clan or a human living there. Or a visitor of PHH (fae or human).

It's one work that gives us a reasonable pure fantasy setting that runs in parallel with current world and Nasu wasted it.

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>>46636525
LB6 really needed incest and sex scenes.

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>>46635988
go back

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>>46636543
Morgan/Beryl/Bob in Bob's delusion was the closest.

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Need more Touko outfits in the mahoyo sequels....

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>>46637375
wtf i thought the earth was for kiara

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>>46638981
Kiara = unbirth
Arc = cuddle

Make a choice

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https://twitter.com/maz_r18/status/1781636110969647524?t=vWrigWGQbn_47IC0J4CrBg&s=19

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>>46639487
>Hmm...this page doesn’t exist. Try searching for something else.