New Ar Tonelico thread, previous thread (>>4603631) died, presumably from the influx of DS threads. In before the usual stuff.

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Anonymous Sun Mar 14 09:51:29 2010 No.4632594 [Reply] [Original]

New Ar Tonelico thread, previous thread (>>4603631) died, presumably from the influx of DS threads.

In before the usual stuff.

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 09:52:29 2010 No.4632597
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And before someone asks again for the lossless albums:

AT - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=116396&d=1240137696
AT2 - All: http://www.hongfire.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=108204&d=1232984269
AT3 - OST: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=112183
AT3 - Hymmnos albums: http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=download&tid=111040

Thanks to Yuyucow and Anonymous in previous threads for digging up the links.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 09:54:29 2010 No.4632605 Does AT3 have an NA release date yet?

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 09:59:29 2010 No.4632627
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>>4632605

>Many are concerned that the problems that you had with Ar tonelico II might keep you from doing the sequel if/when Gust develops it. If Ar tonelico III is made, would you still consider localizing it?

>Yes. Basically, I like that game, and many of our fans like that game, but we had some problems [with the] Ar tonelico II localization. We are really sorry for that. But still, we want to get the license for Ar tonelico III. And, we'll be really careful not to make that problem with the next title.

http://otakuxgamer.com/?p=3222

Guess they did learn from that experience...

From an Anon in the previous thread.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 10:01:29 2010 No.4632635 >>4632605 But to answer your question, no there has been no release date or whatever announced yet as far as I know. NIS are still interested though so it'll happen eventually.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 10:08:29 2010 No.4632672 Am I the only having problems with the replay videos? I can only load then in economy or can't load them at all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 13:51:29 2010 No.4634043 >>4632672 I can load them fine.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 14:35:29 2010 No.4634343 You let the thread die due to your negligence, and you immediately remake one? Seems a bit odd to me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 14:51:29 2010 No.4634446 >>4634343 Thread was past bump limit anyway, I think.

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 15:18:29 2010 No.4634612
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>>4634446

It wasn't.

>>4634343

Oh, I'm sorry I can't be awake the whole day especially when god knows how many threads for DS were made during the night while I was asleep.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 15:34:29 2010 No.4634724 >>4634612 It means not enough people care. There is no condition that an Ar Tonelico thread must exist on /jp/ at all times. Make one when you have something to say.

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 15:40:29 2010 No.4634770

>>4634724

Having a single active thread means that any form of discussion, questions or just a simple image dump is kept to this thread only. But if you prefer I could make a new thread each time I want to say something. Perhaps I'll go make a few DS threads for the sake of it while I'm at it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 17:48:29 2010 No.4635471 File: 230 KB, 951x764, Waifu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Sun Mar 14 18:00:29 2010 No.4635505
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How about lossy? I don't want to re-encode a bunch of shit, especially for a game with a mostly average soundtrack, and I don't want to rummage around in past threads because I will get my ass spoiled (I'm thirty hours into ATii according to the game timer, but half of that was probably me in bed with my computer still running at my desk... and I doubt this game is _that_ short)

Also posting buri hamachi.jpg in a buri hamachi thread

>>	Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga Sun Mar 14 21:25:29 2010 No.4636224 >>4635505 Try the ones here Jones http://www.hongfire.com/forum/showthread.php?t=99814

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 22:03:26 2010 No.4636570 [DELETED]

>>4635505

It's not really all that hard to do it yourself. Foobar can open .tta files (just open the .cue file and rename it to .tta) then just convert it to whatever file type you wish. Takes like 30 seconds convert it all to FLAC or whatever file type you want.

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 22:05:29 2010 No.4636584
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>>4635505

It's not really all that hard to do it yourself. Foobar can open .tta files (just open the .cue file with notepad and rename FILE part to end in .tta) then just convert it to whatever file type you wish. Takes like 30 seconds convert it all to FLAC or whatever file type you want.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 22:08:29 2010 No.4636614 >>4634043 Niconico must hate me then. I'm stuck at part 41 and I don't want to watch it in economy mode, especially when this is where Tatsumi's secret is revealed.

>>	Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Sun Mar 14 22:12:29 2010 No.4636636 >>4636584 > I don't want to re-encode a bunch of shit Not "I don't know how to re-encode a bunch of shit", I'm just really lazy and tags break all the time. >>4636224 thanks

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 22:17:29 2010 No.4636668 >>4636636 I know, I'm just saying that it really isn't all that much effort. The AT2 OST and Hymmnos albums took 30 seconds to convert over to FLAC through Foobar and have perfect tags.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun Mar 14 23:36:29 2010 No.4637257
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>>4634724
I'm starting to like these threads because everyone takes it easy in them. There's no trolling or super fast post rate and everyone just discusses the games in some way.

>>4635505
>>"S-stupid game soundtrack, don't think I like you or anything! I'm only downloading you because you're so average! That's all!"

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 14 23:53:29 2010 No.4637378 File: 273 KB, 1056x812, jacqli.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why is Jacqli so delicious?

Anonymous Sun Mar 14 23:57:29 2010 No.4637396

>>4637257
The people in these threads are the ones who came here and started posting when /jp/ became Otaku Culture.

I highly doubt most of them are the same people that where here when AT was argued as to if it belongs here and generally tried to make the best threads possible.

Also, people stop caring about /jp/ and just let it become /a2/jb/.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun Mar 14 23:58:29 2010 No.4637407 >>4637396 I just responded to that in the ghost board.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 00:00:29 2010 No.4637413 >>4637396 You people cry over one fucking thread while the board gets cluttered with touhou shit. What a bunch of crybabies. Also, go back to the ghostside.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 00:01:29 2010 No.4637420 File: 53 KB, 430x607, Tumours.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Y'know I've never really been a big fan of Luca's songs but after looping EXEC_with.METHOD_METAFALICA/. for the past hour or so I've actually grown to like this song.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 00:02:29 2010 No.4637423 >>4637378 link to doujin

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 00:09:29 2010 No.4637467
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>>4637396

I've been here since the split plus however long I spent on /a/ before that. Just because we aren't posting Touhou or Umineko doesn't mean we're 'newfags', I just simply enjoy the different discussion rather than seeing yet another Touhou thread on the front page, which is the main reason for this thread. But feel free to go back to spamming HURR GO BACK TO /v/ ROFL XDDDDDD, it makes no difference to me.

>>	Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga Mon Mar 15 00:54:29 2010 No.4637755 >>4637396 But I post in this thread and was here before /jp/'s name change.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 01:07:29 2010 No.4637867 >>4637467 >superior choice >Cocona 6/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 01:23:29 2010 No.4637988 File: 78 KB, 1280x800, Best end.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4637867 But she is.

>>	Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. Mon Mar 15 01:23:29 2010 No.4637990 >>4637988 >>4637467 COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 01:37:29 2010 No.4638088 The Ar Tonelico on the right is pretty cute.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 01:38:29 2010 No.4638096 >>4637988 >>4637467 COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Mon Mar 15 01:39:29 2010 No.4638104 File: 108 KB, 657x803, 2753431.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Shurelia Sunday is over.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 01:41:29 2010 No.4638118 File: 80 KB, 462x650, 109dbd3b502b74efffa7058f8a1c917e.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mir Monday?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 01:43:29 2010 No.4638128 File: 123 KB, 816x612, 1268188950552.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4638104 >>4638118 It's Cocona Monday and Cocona Sunday.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 01:44:29 2010 No.4638135 File: 658 KB, 1680x1050, at2_red_1680.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4638118 God I love Mir.

>>	Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. Mon Mar 15 01:44:29 2010 No.4638140 >>4638128 everyday is a Cocona day.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 01:46:29 2010 No.4638149 File: 161 KB, 675x700, Frelia.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4637420 Personally, Haruka Shimotsuki is my favorite singer, though I like the others a lot too. EXEC_VIENA/. is freaking beautiful.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 01:48:29 2010 No.4638165 theres nothing to discuss becaus shurelia is the best

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 01:54:29 2010 No.4638204
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>>4638165
I thought she was boring, honestly. She's cute, and her Linkage armor looks amazing, but once she takes it off in the story her personality just becomes I LOVE YOU LYNER I LOVE YOU LYNER I LOVE YOU LYNER.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 02:44:29 2010 No.4638482 File: 185 KB, 850x600, Six out of ten.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4638149 Don't get me wrong, the songs are good.. it's just they don't really seem all that great in comparison to Mir or Cloche's Hymmnos.

>>	Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. Mon Mar 15 02:45:29 2010 No.4638486 >>4638482 COCONAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 03:26:29 2010 No.4638794 anyone know the song title Cro & Mir sing in her End in AT2 ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 03:36:29 2010 No.4638834 >>4638794 心語り

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 07:06:29 2010 No.4639861 >>4638794 Track 11 on the Flame Hymmnos album, The Heart Speaks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 09:18:29 2010 No.4640249 File: 117 KB, 550x768, I want to hold Mir ;_;.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4639861 Also I'm pleasantly surprised that Croix is a good singer, at least combined with Mir he is.

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>>	lotti Mon Mar 15 09:56:29 2010 No.4640372 File: 230 KB, 816x611, 21.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	lotti Mon Mar 15 09:57:29 2010 No.4640376 File: 235 KB, 816x611, 31.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	lotti Mon Mar 15 09:58:29 2010 No.4640383 File: 237 KB, 816x611, 41.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] oh look

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 10:02:29 2010 No.4640404 >>4638149 I can appreciate the other real reyvateils as well but Shikata Akiko wins hands down in my case.

>>	lotti Mon Mar 15 10:03:29 2010 No.4640410 File: 233 KB, 816x611, 51.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it's /jp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 12:11:29 2010 No.4640864 >>4640376 He's a man of refined tastes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 14:18:29 2010 No.4641466 File: 89 KB, 1280x800, And all is well in the world.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I wonder if the main protagonists of the AT games realize how fucking lucky they are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 14:28:29 2010 No.4641507 >>4641466 >Atelier Rorona Shirt Oh, Gust!

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:01:29 2010 No.4641675 Is AT3 considered the final game in the series or are there enough holes that could warrant for a 4th game?

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:04:29 2010 No.4641686

>>4637396
No, the majority of us were here, and enjoyed AT threads before /jp/ because Otaku Culture.

In fact part of the reason it was changed to Otaku Culture was because people kept spamming any thread about something they deemed not to be obscure enough.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:06:29 2010 No.4641707 >>4641675 The director of the series has said he has more ideas for Ar Tonelico, but it will end up being a prequel or an alternate universe with the same concept.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:09:29 2010 No.4641723

>>4641686
That's a true lie.

AT was never enjoyed here before Otaku Culture
and you guys only became Idolspammers with your constant thread (which entirely defeats the purpose of an imageboard) when /jp/ changed names.

You guys are the ones who don't belong here and continue to post off-topic (/v/) posts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:10:29 2010 No.4641728 I kinda miss the >Take this shit to /v/ >Does not belong here trolls.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:10:29 2010 No.4641729 >>4641675 Well, the dealt with each of the 3 towers, and there is no significant plot hook left(at least obvious one).

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:11:29 2010 No.4641732 >>4641723 >AT was never enjoyed here before Otaku Culture WROOOOONG http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/2022493

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:11:29 2010 No.4641733 >>4641686 AT is an JRPG on a popular console and a fairly mainstream series (no matter how "obscure" you say it is). It does not go on /jp/.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:11:29 2010 No.4641735 >>4641729 Aside from the fact that we have only addressed the events that occur in one of the (at least) three major eras, you mean?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:12:29 2010 No.4641740 >>4641723 >>4641733 Samefag, and point proven.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:13:29 2010 No.4641744 >>4641732 Looks like an imagedump instead of discussion. Also, no continuous thread bullshit like you're doing now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:13:29 2010 No.4641749 >>4641728 I wish you kids would learn that I'm NOT a troll.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:14:29 2010 No.4641755 >>4641740 Wrong. How about actually refuting the points.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:16:29 2010 No.4641766 >>4641749 >>4641755 Oh fuck he's here again. Trolling his pathetic little life away.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:17:29 2010 No.4641768 >>4641766 Grow up.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:19:29 2010 No.4641774 >>4641707 Oh, sweet. Did they ever say what happened to Luke in AT3? Or is he still MIA?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:20:29 2010 No.4641778 File: 87 KB, 1155x252, Moothasspoken.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Oh god not the pretentious fag(s) again, even moot told you to shut the hell up.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:21:29 2010 No.4641780

>>4641735
The thing is, there's not much to make a game out of in the other two eras.

First one is just setting the foundation for stuff, very few Reyvateils, and too little happens over too large amount a time to make a decent game out of it, would be too many timeskips, or they'd have to retcon things that have already been established by making a major even go on for longer, or making a new one entirely.

Second era isn't all that much different to the third, got Mir trolling Shurelia, the people of Metafalss failing at Metafalica, and Tilia doing **** all. Can't really just make another three games with the same basic premise and make them interesting by saying it's what happened in the past, so you should be interested.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Mar 15 15:22:29 2010 No.4641788 >>4641778 That says nothing about obvious /v/ shit in /jp/. Try again later.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:23:29 2010 No.4641795 >>4641744 See >>4634770 & >>4641778. Enjoy your Touhou threads.

>>	lotti Mon Mar 15 15:24:29 2010 No.4641797 File: 541 KB, 600x1847, 9137268.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4641729 Needs a Booster Lance Quest sequel where Croix hunts down Aoto for defiling Cocona

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:24:29 2010 No.4641803
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>>4641768
>Lives out of parents' basement
>Spends days F5ing /jp/ until he sees a thread to troll
>Telling others who are trying to have a normal discussion about something to grow up

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:25:29 2010 No.4641809 >>4641780 I would like to play a game where you just play as Mir and see everything that went on through her eyes. Also, trolling Shurelia with Mir hax powers would be fun as hell.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:25:29 2010 No.4641810 >>4641780 I don't know, I'd find a game set during the war between the humans and reyvateils in the second era to be pretty interesting.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:27:29 2010 No.4641819

>>4641795
According to your first post, you want this place to be a message forum, where topics are never purged and deleted.

So why are you posting on an imageboard, if you don't like the fact that threads get purged and that you aren't taking advantage of being able to post pictures (other than to just imagedump)?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:28:29 2010 No.4641822 >>4641728 I don't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:28:29 2010 No.4641823 >>4641797 ENTIRE GAME: RIDE ON ROCKET LANCE TO THIRD TOWER USING JUST THE SHEER POWER OF YOUR RAGE WHILE BLASTING THROUGH SHIT ALONG THE WAY SPEAR AOTO AT THE END WITH HUGE BLAST OF ENERGY THAT CAUSES FUCKHUGE EXPLOSION

lotti Mon Mar 15 15:29:29 2010 No.4641831
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They could probably like, just make games which are binary field games with the cast from the AT games. So that you can like, play games while you play games.

Acutually while playing earlier, I just noticed that binary field part on AT2 is actually only meant for Frelia and Croix. Mir is there anyways, so I'm guessing that her and Shurelia pretty much just forced they way in to dick around.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:30:29 2010 No.4641837 >>4641809 Wouldn't really be Ar Tonelico though, she has no allies that are humans, and Reyvateils that can fight as Vanguards are supposed to be stupidly rare in all eras.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:30:29 2010 No.4641841 >>4641823 That could be a SHMUP.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:31:29 2010 No.4641843 Why don't you guys listen to logic?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:33:29 2010 No.4641850 File: 383 KB, 250x247, heartsandminds_BigCover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4641843 I do!

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:33:29 2010 No.4641855

>>4641831
That's an awesome idea.

I think all the Reyvateil's in AT2 and Croix went into Frelia's Binary Field, but Mir sort of took it over, inserting characters from AT1 and making all the other Reyvateils into useless comedy villains. I think Frelia ended up falling in love with Croix during the Binary Sphere, rather than before, but it could be completed so quickly in the game that it didn't come across that well.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:34:29 2010 No.4641862 >>4641837 Why would the main characters have to be allied with either side? Make a story about a Human/Reyvateil couple whose love is torn apart by war.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:35:30 2010 No.4641865 These threads are no more related than the diaper threads that are constantly deleted.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:36:29 2010 No.4641882

>>4641862
If you've got Mir as the protagonist, during the war she pretty much started against humans, there's no chance in hell she'll have any human allies. Hell, she spent like 300 years sealed away because she wanted to kill all humans, there's no way she'd work with one before she was "freed"

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:37:29 2010 No.4641884

>>4641788
Shut up, Ar Tonelico was, is and will always be /jp/ related.
As a japan's product, as a nichè game and as a VN, end of it.
Whatever you disillusioned retards believe doesn't matter, you do not run this place and your opinion is worthless, even more so in your case for being a tripfag.

Ar Tonelico threads were never deleted for being out of board, NEVER, we only got a pair of threads deleted for being obvious provocations at the "take it to /v/" guy.
Do you believe it's not ?
Too bad, moot himself told you to stop bitching about content you don't like, and if you can't grasp the that simple concept then you'd better go to /v/ and play minecraft together with your other autistic friends.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:39:29 2010 No.4641899

>>4641865
Gust is an actual Doujin developer that happens to have a deal with a company to publish their work. They're complete amateurs who basically work out of a basement, get very little pay, and their games always sell incredibly poorly.

They're just the same as the artists who get their shit sold at Comiket, except they got lucky when Sony was looking for a new bitch to mess around in the 90s

>>	lotti Mon Mar 15 15:39:29 2010 No.4641905 >>4641837 But you're Mir, you have your robot/virus vanguard. The settings are enough to create like a Sengoku Rance-like strategy game, well just that you are the demon armies. Add minigames for whatever hacking/etc she does.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:41:29 2010 No.4641915
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>>4641855
No, the characters from Ar Tonelico 1 were linked to Frelia's Binary field. Or at least Shurelia. Case in point: Last level of binary field where Mir uses Sonata ~Despair~ against Shurelia and she complained that Mir was hacking (Mir didn't care).

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:42:29 2010 No.4641916 >>4641905 She didn't actually have control over viruses until she was sealed away. She wasn't a master hacker either, part of the reason the war started was that she tried to hack the tower and failed.

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Mon Mar 15 15:42:29 2010 No.4641920 >>4641884 You're wrong, and so is this thread. There's no real need to make justifications when it's so obvious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:42:29 2010 No.4641922 >>4641882 Why would Mir have to be the protagonist?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:42:29 2010 No.4641923 >>4641905 >The settings are enough to create like a Sengoku Rance-like strategy game I now have the mental image of Mir mind raping reyvateils with "My glorious days" playing in the background

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:47:29 2010 No.4641947

>>4641905

>>4641809
Here.

I was thinking more along the lines of either the AT1/AT2 style fighting, except Mir creates and upgrades her vanguards but has no friends at the beginning (Reyvateils do come and join her though, I think), combined with a different form of battle system when you're hacking into the tower.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:47:29 2010 No.4641948

>>4641915
Actually she says something along the lines of "The data says you are cheating in the game", which is something an AI could quite easily notice.

On one hand, all the Reyvateils from AT1 act exactly like characters in the game, their personalities are all stripped down and they're really out of character, while Luca and Croche complain a few times about how they've been reduced to comedy villains.

On the other hand, at the end Phantasmagoria is unlocked as a song magic, which implies they actually were there and decided to help Croix after seeing his personality.

Also Jacqli was the one who set it all up, they just used Frelia's body, so it could go either way, she could have made them join the game, or she could have hacked in their appearances.

Doesn't seem to say anything in the artbook about it either way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:48:29 2010 No.4641954 >>4641922 Because she's Mir.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:49:29 2010 No.4641963 >>4641922 Because that was the original plan stated by >>4641809, and it intrigues me.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:53:29 2010 No.4641988

>>4641947
You could start off with the incident where the humans tried to strip Shurelia of her personality and Mir escapes, then tries to free Shurelia but has to drop half of the wings of horus into the sea and kills a million people. Sets up a perfect "Disaster at the beginning" kind of story.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:54:29 2010 No.4641992

>>4641963
But it would be boring, we know most of the details on what happened based on the info from all the three games, plus we know how her story ends.
A prequel based on the Granothode Inferia instead would be wonderful, and with the whole clashing between the three tower's populations, cultures and all, a sequel sounds good as well.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:54:29 2010 No.4641995
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>>4641819

Where did I say that? The point of having an active thread is so that it's all kept to a single thread instead of completely fagging up the front page like the usual Touhou/Umineko threads. I prefer having a single thread with active discussion rather than 30 threads spread out over the pages. If you don't like it you can simply minimize the thread, filter it or simply fuck off. Or you could actually try the game before moaning about a SINGLE thread amongst 16 pages that isn't Touhou or Umineko, you'll see it's more 'Otaku Culture' related than quite a lot of the faggotry that ends up on the front page. I can also make a new thread each time I post, it makes no difference to me.

>>4641923

I'm fine with this.

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:57:29 2010 No.4642009

>>4641954

While Mir's story is obviously one of the most interesting parts of the AT universe, that doesn't mean it needs to be told through her eyes. She was obviously not a protagonist in AT1 and she would almost certainly be an antagonist in a 2nd-era prequel as well, since she ran around doing things like dropping half of the fucking land into the abyss.

I think it could make a pretty good game. Imagine if whatever heroine you choose has to be the one to participate in Operation: LUNE during the climactic final battle to seal Mir ;_;

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 15:58:29 2010 No.4642013

>>4641992
Well, we pretty much know (or at least I do) just the basics of what happened, but not the specifics. It'd be interesting to see how the war was fought and all the stuff that went on in it.

But yeah, I just want to see more Mir.

I'd like a Grathnode Inferia incident game too, but the problem is, how many Reyvateils were there at the time? Three? Or were humans able to use song magic back then before the GI went kaput?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 16:00:29 2010 No.4642014 >>4642009 But it's Mir... I waaaant it to be told through her eyes. ;_;

>>	lotti Mon Mar 15 16:01:29 2010 No.4642018 They can always write something about some organization trying to create more land/fix sea of death/fix blastline going horribly wrong.

>>	lotti Mon Mar 15 16:03:29 2010 No.4642026 >>4642014 what if, what if alicesoft made a VN where you play mir during those periods. doesnt have to be 100% cannon, also includes the obligatory bad ends all alicesoft games has

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 16:06:29 2010 No.4642037

>>4642014

Well, the main problem with this is that long stretches of her life are composed primarily of isolation, containment, and boredom. It's much easier to tell the interesting parts of her story during games revolving around other characters that are alive during those relevant periods of her life rather than have it follow Mir herself. Massive time-skips that kill off 95% of the characters in the story wouldn't work very well for a video game.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 16:07:29 2010 No.4642048 >>4642037 Worked in Phantasy Star 3

>>	lotti Mon Mar 15 16:08:29 2010 No.4642049 >>4642037 >boredom more like staying in her prison and playing 2028165 VNs just like your avg /jp/ neet

Anonymous Mon Mar 15 16:45:29 2010 No.4642248

However kickass and awesome would retelling Mir's story be, I'd rather play a game in mostly undocumented place or era. New setting, new plot twits, new (lame) excuses to insert sexual innuendo, etc.

Think about it. Grathnode inferia? We know that 15 Terus sabotaged the tower and nearly killed Ar Ciel. Mir? We know that she was faking lack of emotions, dropped the right wing of Horus and was finally sealed by Shurelia, Tastiella and the first Lune.

It's like reading an eroge with the ending and plot twists spoiled, i.e. playing G-senjou knowing that Maou is the son of 鮫島利勝. Sure, the story is great, but half of the fun is ruined.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 19:46:29 2010 No.4643659 File: 87 KB, 550x680, Still six out of ten.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4642248 >new (lame) excuses to insert sexual innuendo You know you love it.

>>	Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga Mon Mar 15 20:34:29 2010 No.4644104 >>4643659 It makes me sick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 20:56:29 2010 No.4644288 >>4644104 Then you're playing the wrong games.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 21:49:29 2010 No.4644669 >>4644104 Then why bother playing?

>>	Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga Mon Mar 15 21:50:29 2010 No.4644675 >>4644288 >>4644669 I didn't realise the point of the game was sexual innuendos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 21:50:29 2010 No.4644680 >>4644675 It's a pretty big part of the games.

>>	Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga Mon Mar 15 21:51:29 2010 No.4644687 >>4644680 Given the relative infrequency of them, I would say they are not. When they are there, they just look terribly out of place.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 22:04:29 2010 No.4644807 It's a shame we don't have any AT inspired doujin games. By now we have enough characters for a kickass SRW clone;

>>	Anonymous ‮.tahw ‪‪‪‬ ‪‬ ‭‬ !Jones4ZrPA Mon Mar 15 22:05:29 2010 No.4644812 File: 36 KB, 359x479, buri hamachi_8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Relative infrequency? The game revolves around unsubtle innuendos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 22:09:29 2010 No.4644838 >>4644812 ... I can't believe it took me until your post for me to realize the joke behind that picture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 22:14:29 2010 No.4644876 >>4644838 Which joke? You mean there is something else besides the fish?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 22:16:29 2010 No.4644895 File: 692 KB, 1140x700, 8928261_p4.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Sakura !!32RHYzwb/Ga Mon Mar 15 22:23:29 2010 No.4644955 >>4644812 There seems to be more early on, but not as much later. Or maybe I'm just too naive and don't see sexual innuendos where they exist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 22:41:29 2010 No.4645118 >>4644838 Which joke?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 15 22:43:29 2010 No.4645143 >>4644838 is it penises or her hand smelling like fish?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 00:05:29 2010 No.4646002 >>4644876 >>4645118 >>4645143 What does pussy smell like?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 00:06:29 2010 No.4646018 File: 645 KB, 1024x768, Zzzzzz.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4646002 You expect someone from /jp/ to actually know?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 00:08:29 2010 No.4646037 >>4646018 Well, if I told you I do know you guys would probably just think I'm trCOCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Tue Mar 16 00:17:29 2010 No.4646106
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>>4644807
At least we still got the CG from this.

http://rapidshare.com/files/137960804/_Atelier-G__Artonelico_H__PNG_.7z

>>4641884
>>Shut up, Ar Tonelico was, is and will always be /jp/ related.

100% true.

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/S1029253#p1030989

>>	Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. Tue Mar 16 00:18:29 2010 No.4646125 >>4646018 COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 09:18:29 2010 No.4648538 File: 290 KB, 641x693, Generic file name.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4646125 Yes?

>>	Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. Tue Mar 16 09:48:29 2010 No.4648642 >>4648538 COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 10:13:29 2010 No.4648727 File: 610 KB, 1000x1020, 1268072117780.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4648642 I'll cut off your dick.

>>	Milfeulle is my Waifu !iS.Yuri/S. Tue Mar 16 10:15:29 2010 No.4648730 >>4648727 COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA and that other "guy" that is actually COCONAAAAAAAAAAAAA in disguise.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 10:15:29 2010 No.4648732 Holy shit. Sooma means body in greek.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 13:09:29 2010 No.4649529 File: 134 KB, 500x700, Soma is my waifu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4648732 My waifu, do not steal.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 14:56:29 2010 No.4650262 Where could one find the lyrics to Sublimation's prelude?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 16:11:29 2010 No.4650844 >>4649529 Thumbnail made it look like she was drenched in cum.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 17:16:29 2010 No.4651510 >>4650844 Stop having dirty thoughts about my waifu.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 17:50:29 2010 No.4651879 >>4650262 http://m0hr.com/mirror/weezy.freeforums.org/hymmnos-chants-t614.html Is that what you're looking for?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 17:55:29 2010 No.4651938 >>4651879 Yeah, that's it. Thanks a lot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 16 19:40:29 2010 No.4652853 I wish the unused tracks on the Hymmnos albums like Waterway~MIO were actually in the game, they sound too awesome not to have been used.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 00:41:29 2010 No.4654937 File: 108 KB, 900x660, Generic onsen sceHNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGG.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Wed Mar 17 02:16:29 2010 No.4655650

I'm not really a buyfag so excuse the potentially retarded question but does anyone know of any decent sites to order the Hymmnos albums? Play-Asia appears to be missing some of them and ~£25 for a single CD seems kind of expensive. Then again Amazon is expecting £60 for a single used CD so it could be worse..

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 02:17:29 2010 No.4655669 Why is Akane so awesome

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 03:26:29 2010 No.4656241 >>4655650 The Cloche 1/8 figure is also pretty awesome.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Wed Mar 17 04:23:29 2010 No.4656564 >>4655650 http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/search3.html?q=hymmnos&media=&r=any&step=20&order=score Looks like 3,000 yen/£25 is the cheapest out there unless you can find a sale or something.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 08:44:29 2010 No.4657530 >>4656564 Oh well, I guess I'll just stick to the lossless collection for now.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 13:21:29 2010 No.4658599 File: 15 KB, 400x379, Cloche Fig.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A shame it costs 7,000 yen or more.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 15:22:29 2010 No.4659016 >>4658599 I would pay that much for a Mir figurine.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 15:26:29 2010 No.4659041 >>4659016 Unfortunately there only seems to be a Luca and Cloche one. The Luca one looks relatively mediocre but the Cloche one looks decent, I love her in that pose.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 15:26:29 2010 No.4659043 >>4659016 This. Mir figure fucking where?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 15:28:29 2010 No.4659052 >>4658599 Why settle for a figure when you can dress acustom manequine with this.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 16:00:29 2010 No.4659130 >>4659052 Because it makes me feel like a God when I cover Cloche in hot glue. I'm not able to cover a whole mannequin in hot glue.. or at least I've never tried.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 16:47:29 2010 No.4659525 >>4659130 It's Chroche, moron. The only place it ever says "Cloche" is in the shitty localization, and even then only sometimes.

Anonymous Wed Mar 17 18:23:29 2010 No.4660313

>>4659525

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Ar_tonelico_II#Playable_characters

http://artonelico.wikia.com/wiki/Cloche_Leythal_Pastalia

etc. It makes no difference, they're both the same. It's like Jacqli and Jakuri, you still know who it is regardless of which spelling you choose.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 18:56:29 2010 No.4660469 What about AT1? Is the translation playable?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 19:33:29 2010 No.4660663 >>4660469 i enjoyed it on both playthroughs/routes

Anonymous Wed Mar 17 20:10:29 2010 No.4660916

>>4660469

I think it's fine for the most part, I see nobody complaining about it but I don't know Japanese so I can't really say. I believe it was only AT2's translation that was terrible that it warrants playing the undub or waiting for the fan translation.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 17 20:23:29 2010 No.4660929 >>4659525 If by sometimes you mean all the time, sure. Also, lol at obsessing about an L/R shift. Cloche is a french word for bell, which is probably the reference the creators were intending.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 01:04:29 2010 No.4661943 >>4660929 >Also, lol at obsessing about an L/R shift. I see quite a lot of people moaning about it for some reason and yet they seem fine with using Jacqli, it's kind of sad to see.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Thu Mar 18 01:06:29 2010 No.4661955 File: 200 KB, 819x1099, 9409610.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 01:33:29 2010 No.4662100 >>4660929 >>4661943 If you do not obsess over L/R shifts, you do not deserve to call yourself a true weeaboo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 02:18:29 2010 No.4662349 >>4658599 its a chicken

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 02:44:29 2010 No.4662509 Was there any official artwork of mirs ass? I always wanted to see her backside in that SM outfit

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 03:54:29 2010 No.4662908 >>4662509 Mir's ass is relevant to my interests.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 05:28:29 2010 No.4663599 File: 941 KB, 1640x2708, Mir.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4662509 Unlike Luca or Cloche I can't seem to find any pictures of Mir's ass, at least no official stuff from Nagi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 06:06:29 2010 No.4663874 >>4663599 come to think of it, Nagi doesnt draw asses much. Which is a shame since his art is deliciously nice

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 06:08:29 2010 No.4663886 >>4663874 I've seen a few but they're mainly Luca and/or Cloche.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 06:08:29 2010 No.4663892 File: 1.03 MB, 2076x3220, 1216458571228.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Here is some Misha ass.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 06:13:29 2010 No.4663917 File: 83 KB, 640x480, DAT ASS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4663892

>>	「Raido」 !!dHrlxjVt5Ty Thu Mar 18 06:14:29 2010 No.4663920 Am I the only one who likes the Ar Tonelico 1 battle system better than Ar Tonelico 2's?

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 06:18:29 2010 No.4663950 >>4663920 I personally thought AT2's system was an improvement over AT1.

>>	「Raido」 !!dHrlxjVt5Ty Thu Mar 18 06:20:29 2010 No.4663959 AT2's battle system felt like there was too much going on. That's just me though.

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>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 06:37:29 2010 No.4664056 >>4663959 You get used to it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 08:15:29 2010 No.4664495 in at1 i had a better idea, when i get everything from an enemy. at2 seems to be a bit random there (i'm only at the beginning, so maybe i'm get used to it)

Anonymous Thu Mar 18 11:32:29 2010 No.4665123
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/jp/, I have a dilemma. My copy of AT3 is scheduled to arrive any day now. I was originally planning on going with Finnel until I can get Tilia in my party, but then I realized that Saki's hymnos are done by Akiko Shikata. I'm not a big fan of moeblob kenka wa yamete or buri hamachi, but EXEC_FLIP_ARPHAGE is excellent.

tl;dr: who should I use as my placeholder waifu until I get Tilia?

Anonymous Thu Mar 18 11:53:29 2010 No.4665201

>>4665123

Finnel. Akiko Shikata didn't really put out that much great stuff this time around, in my opinion. Finnel is pretty much a fetish magnet too so there's that over the generic moeblobness of Saki. But I'm glad to see you're focusing on Tilia. Delicious character along with awesome singer, fuck yeah.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 12:24:29 2010 No.4665346 >>4665123 Firurun. Saki is just a moeblob airhead while Finnel is a closet masochist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 18:32:29 2010 No.4666959 >>4665346 >Finnel is a closet masochist. And this is why I love Ar Tonelico.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 21:53:29 2010 No.4668449 File: 119 KB, 1280x800, Dem thighs...jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Delicious thighs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 18 21:54:29 2010 No.4668457 File: 153 KB, 600x837, 1267596478134.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4666959 I love it because of Mir. Bosses-turned girlfriends (that are a bit diminutive, for that matter) are my fetish.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 00:41:29 2010 No.4669485

>>4668457

That's the way it should always be. Once defeated the bosses take a liking to you and end up joining your group and by the end of the game you have a harem of boss characters fighting each other over the exclusive use of your penis. Little do they know they'll all get a hot dicking.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri Mar 19 01:31:29 2010 No.4669726
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>>4668457
Same here.

Having the "bad guy" join your party is usual cool RPG stuff (sup Magus from CT) but the way Mir became wife material in the second game was somewhat unique. Combine that with some character development and it's no surprise that cool bros like Inudrill draw 100 pieces of Mir fanart per month.

tl;dr awesome character.

>>	Alicia Melchiott !ALICia.JPo Fri Mar 19 01:33:29 2010 No.4669737 File: 27 KB, 284x259, [Ryuumaru] Ladies vs Butlers! - 11 [480p] [60B056A5].mp4_snapshot_04.17_[2010.03.17_23.46.41].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >generic kuudere loli >best character ever

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri Mar 19 01:55:29 2010 No.4669849
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>>4669737
>>anime with generic kuudere loli

Sion's reaction: "Why is this character and show so crappy?"

>>anime with generic kuudere girl who has huge breasts

Sion's reaction: "THIS IS THE BEST ANIMES I'VE EVER SEEN. WHAT A MASTERPIECE."

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 01:56:29 2010 No.4669859 File: 37 KB, 491x365, 1265189639289.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Finished Saki's true end last night, will need to quickly go through Finnel/Tilia routes so I can start ToV

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 02:02:29 2010 No.4669890 >>4669859 >Saki's true end >true end What, there are "true ends" in AT3? Is there a way you can tell us how to achieve normal/true ends without spoiling, or is it impossible to tell without spoiling? Also, is there New Game+?

>>	Alicia Melchiott !ALICia.JPo Fri Mar 19 02:04:29 2010 No.4669896 File: 44 KB, 848x480, snapshot20100218185914.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4669849 You seem to have missed when I gave up on Himari being good last week Also, Kuesu is not kuudere so that argument doesn't even work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 02:11:29 2010 No.4669945 File: 166 KB, 671x396, Sion.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Obligatory Sion.png. >>4669859 I'm disappointed with you choosing Saki first but regardless I hope you enjoy ToV, it's a nice game.

ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri Mar 19 02:12:29 2010 No.4669948
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>>4669896
I know Sion; I'm joking with you 100% of the time. Mir wouldn't really be cooldere either based off the stuff in the first game.

Also, I missed such a thread. You talking about the manga or the anime?

>>	(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ BOOF ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) !AWEsomEEEE!!g4pQz5RFuPl Fri Mar 19 02:13:29 2010 No.4669951 File: 7 KB, 184x184, sion.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4669945

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 02:27:29 2010 No.4670061

>>4669890
Each heroine has a normal and true end. Cocona also has an end. Then there are the few bad ends. I can't say the exact number of ends since I haven't gotten them myself (The exact number is somewhere on the gfaqs board). Yes there is NG+ with the option of starting at certain points in the game.

Check out this thread,

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=976762&topic=53328960

>>4669945
It was a tough choice, but it was worth it for Filament and Sakia-oneechan

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 02:32:29 2010 No.4670103 >>4670061 >Yes there is NG+ with the option of starting at certain points in the game. Awesome. This was greatly needed for the series.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri Mar 19 05:51:29 2010 No.4670996 File: 107 KB, 600x800, 9439675.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 11:57:29 2010 No.4672605 File: 317 KB, 1024x768, ar_tonelico shurelia mei-mei.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] why is there so little fan art of mei-mei i really liked her

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 12:20:29 2010 No.4672731
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>>4672605

AT doesn't get all that much fanart, atleast in comparison so some other well known franchises and the vast majority of it is the main characters so quite a lot of the smaller characters only get a few pieces of art.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 12:25:29 2010 No.4672751 >>4670061 >Yes there is NG+ with the option of starting at certain points in the game. Why is this not a standard for games?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 12:35:29 2010 No.4672796 >>4672605 Nobody except Mir and Cocona get much fan art, and Mir has like 10x more than Cocona.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 12:39:29 2010 No.4672827 File: 1.79 MB, 2144x2992, artbook12.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4672796 Mir, Cocona, Shurelia and recently Tilia. It's all just the lolis. Being a fan of healthy women, this makes me sad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:09:29 2010 No.4673011 >>4672827 Enjoy your tumours, good sir.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:24:29 2010 No.4673061

Why are there fags who still uses NISA's names/translations? It's Jakuri, not Jacqli, god damn it.

Seriously. If someone told you this person's name was spelled this way, but that person told you that's incorrect and fixes you on the spelling, are you going keep at it being wrong?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:27:29 2010 No.4673073 >>4673061 Nobody cares. This comes up in EVERY FUCKING AR TONELICO TOPIC, and the overwhelming answer is that nobody gives a fuck about them changing their name apart from a small group of overly obsessive people who wish to be Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:28:29 2010 No.4673080 >>4672827 Either way, Mir gets at least double the amount of fanart of everyone else combined.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:30:29 2010 No.4673091 >>4673073 Tell me. What does wanting to be Japanese or not have to do with official names and what they're supposed to be spelled/called as. Did you even read the second sentence there?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:32:29 2010 No.4673107 >>4673061 Don't forget it's Mule, not Mir!

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:33:29 2010 No.4673110

>>4673091
Yes, but I ignored it because it's a stupid analogy, and you're being stupid. Both names are acceptable, there's no point in being a faggot about people using the ones included in the official translation. You just come off about someone who's overly obsessive about GLORIOUS JAPAN

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:34:29 2010 No.4673117 And while we are at it, It's Lirura, not Lyra; Sincere instead of Cynthia; Misya instead of Misha; Lyune instead of Lune, etc.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:36:29 2010 No.4673123 Don't forget it's Dr. Raudness, not Laude.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:37:29 2010 No.4673127

Actually, the Japanese romanize her name as Jacqri.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%A2%E3%83%AB%E3%83%88%E3%83%8D%E3%83%AA%E3%82%B32_%E4%B8%96%E7%95
%8C%E3%81%AB%E9%9F%BF%E3%81%8F%E5%B0%91%E5%A5%B3%E3%81%9F%E3%81%A1%E3%81%AE%E5%89%B5%E9%80%A0%E8%A9%
A9

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:37:29 2010 No.4673128 >>4673110 >Both names are acceptable Because you think so? Is that why? Get out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:38:29 2010 No.4673139 >>4673128 Because the creators think so. Get the fuck back to /a/

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:39:29 2010 No.4673144 >>4673061 >>4673091 >>4673128 Posts like these is why it's hard to admit to liking JRPGs without being called a weeaboo.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:40:29 2010 No.4673151 >>4673139 NISA != creators Why don't you? You obviously sound like you belong there.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:42:29 2010 No.4673163 File: 1.63 MB, 2472x3508, artbook1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4673061 >>4673073 >>4673091 >>4673107 >>4673110 >>4673117 >>4673123 >>4673127 >>4673128 >>4673139 >>4673151 Jesus fuck just shut the hell up.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:42:29 2010 No.4673164

>>4673151
NISA = people in charge of creation of the English localisation.

That, plus several members of the Japanese development team happened to be regularly consulted during localisation, and none of them raised an issue with any of the names. Some of the names were even mentioned in the Tokosphere, which wouldn't have happened if they had an issue with them.

But you know, whatever, you clearly know better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:46:29 2010 No.4673182 I find it funny that people spend this much time arguing about names, when even if they are wrong or whatever, they're clearly not the biggest problem with NISA's localization by a long, long way.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:49:29 2010 No.4673199

>>4673164
Just because they didn't say anything or raised an issue doesn't mean they thought of it or said it's official. And most of the consulting only happened with the first game, which didn't have that many errors. The second game...not so much. NISA SHOULD have consulted Tsuchiya more when like they did with the previous game. And for all you know, maybe they thought it was fine for the English crowd, and not anything else.

And in the Tokosphere, it's Jakuri, not Jacqli.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:52:29 2010 No.4673212

>>4673199
Around the time AT2 was coming out in America, they mentioned a small amount of info about the localisation in the Tokosphere.

Anyway, I'm going to follow this guy's advice >>4673163, because you're clearly too much of a wapanese faggot to get the point.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:54:29 2010 No.4673222
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>>4673061

Because you still know who we're talking about regardless of name used. Many people played the game with the translated games and knows the characters with those respective names. It honestly makes no difference.

>>4673107

Indeed.

>>	lotti Fri Mar 19 13:56:29 2010 No.4673232 >>4673222 stupid sexy mule why don't you have that milf form transformation on AT2

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:59:29 2010 No.4673250 >>4632594 >RAPE THE MAIDS

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 13:59:29 2010 No.4673253 >>4673232 Because she's a delicious loli instead.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:00:29 2010 No.4673259 >>4673212 If you really didn't care, you wouldn't have responded. >>4673222 No difference when it comes to discussion and understanding/recognizing who is who, but thinking it's official or fine in that matter isn't so fine.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:01:29 2010 No.4673263 >>4673253 She's not really a loli, she's supposed to be 15. Still delicious though, especially with dat bondage outfit. Also fuck all the name arguing, Jacqli/Jakuri's voice in NISA's English dub is the worst part of the game.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:02:29 2010 No.4673270 >>4673259 Never said I didn't care, said I'm not going to argue any more because it's like talking to a brick wall that wishes it had been built in Japan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:07:29 2010 No.4673308 >>4673270 You can infer and all you want, but you do realize all your ad hominem retorts only make you seem childish, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:10:29 2010 No.4673332 >>4673308 You realise that using big words incorrectly makes you seem childish, right? >Starts of argument by calling all opposed to his views fags >Tries to act clever when somebody personally attacks him

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:11:29 2010 No.4673349 >>4662509 Mir would definitely have an awesome ass, all characters without huge tumours have dat ass in AT.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:14:29 2010 No.4673374
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>>4673259

Well obviously the official names are the Japanese ones, I'm not going to dispute that. I just think people raging over people using Cloche, Jacqli etc. are fucking stupid since it makes no difference.

>>4673263

Don't ruin it, Anonymous. She's a loli.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:16:29 2010 No.4673391

>>4673332
And what's wrong with calling others fags around here?

Don't tell me you think people get offended when they are called weeaboos around here. I'm not even offended, but feel free to think so. I'm just telling you doing so makes you seem like a desperate kid though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:17:29 2010 No.4673406 >>4673222 Was she always that pale? She looks like an alien or vampire like this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:18:29 2010 No.4673413 >>4673391 You're the same guy who used to spam goes in /v/, aren't you? You've gone for a more subtle type of trolling, I'm impressed, but next time, try changing your writing style and insults, makes it painfully obvious you're the same guy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:19:29 2010 No.4673416 >>4673406 You'd be pale too if you'd been locked in a dark room for 300.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:21:29 2010 No.4673438 >>4673406 Pale skin is delicious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:22:29 2010 No.4673442 >>4673391 Not offended, just find it amusing that you're trying to look clever by using a big word that you think nobody knows the definition of, while being a massive hypocrite.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:26:29 2010 No.4673469

>>4673438
Yes, yes it is.

Mir is pretty much the perfect girl, long black hair, pale skin, red eyes, bondage outfit as everyday wear, likes cosplay, would almost definitely be completely dominant in bed, riding your dick until you were screaming for her to stop.

I wish to be 2D ;_;

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:27:29 2010 No.4673480 >>4673413 >You're the same guy who used to spam goes in /v/, aren't you? Spam what? (/not him)

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:29:29 2010 No.4673497 >>4673469 >would almost definitely be completely dominant in bed, fucking you with a magically created double-sided phallus-shaped object while finishing you off with a reacharound and while she cums from other side of said object. Fixed that for you.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:31:29 2010 No.4673511 >>4673442 I find your witty comments more amusing. And how so? Because I said fags?

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:32:29 2010 No.4673519 >>4673497 Then I'd like to be an 2D girl.

Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:32:29 2010 No.4673525

>>4673480
Back before we became Otaku Culture and it was confirmed AT threads DO go in /jp/, one guy used to force AT topics to hit the bump limit early by spamming "Goes in /v/", and writing rantish posts if anyone told him to shut the fuck up.

This guy's writing style is an awful lot like that guy's, and he's basically just spamming the topic (Although another guy seems to have been enough of a faggot to fall for it), so it's probably the same guy trying a different technique.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:33:29 2010 No.4673529 >>4673497 ... I'm okay with this...

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:34:29 2010 No.4673537 >>4673413 That fag who keeps opposing AT threads? No, I'm not that fag...just a different type of fag who gets riled up about things being official or not.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:38:29 2010 No.4673560 >>4673525 Ohhhh, him. I remember now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:39:29 2010 No.4673565 >>4673497 Needs to be put in doujin form.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 14:45:29 2010 No.4673584 >>4673565 Pegging interests me (only in 2D though), problem is most pegging hentai pics or doujins are either not well drawn, are futa, or have 20-ft dildoes with weird BDSM stuff.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 15:09:29 2010 No.4673793 Can anyone point me to a link for a shitload of Mir fanart? Gelbooru has a disappointing amount.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 15:34:29 2010 No.4673985 >>4673793 Danbooru has more. Also, make sure you're searching for Jakuri, not Mir.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 16:31:29 2010 No.4674417 >>4673985 Much appreciated, thanks. Forgot about Dan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 17:46:29 2010 No.4675012 >>4674417 Or search for Ar_Tonelico and go from there.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Fri Mar 19 17:55:29 2010 No.4675042 >>4673985 Mir works too. I always thought that was pretty cool.

>>	Anonymous Fri Mar 19 23:10:29 2010 No.4676999 >>4673793 You can also lurk Pixiv, assuming you have an account.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 03:55:29 2010 No.4678756 sucks that you cant use shurelia's costumes in battle

>>	CurryButt !CIELBE/jzM Sat Mar 20 03:58:33 2010 No.4678770 >>4678756 yeah, they should let you

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 04:13:29 2010 No.4678849 File: 102 KB, 679x873, Waifu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 11:29:29 2010 No.4680787 File: 784 KB, 800x800, More waifu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Manly Sat Mar 20 11:31:29 2010 No.4680804 >>4678849 >>4678849 Waifu.jpg is right, look at this woman! She's perfect!

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 11:33:29 2010 No.4680813 OC thread has something nice for Artonelifags >>4677760

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 13:44:29 2010 No.4681462 >>4680813 Hahaha, that is great. I had a good chuckle over that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 13:47:29 2010 No.4681484 >>4680813 I'm willing to share Mir with the meido.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:21:29 2010 No.4682080 >>4680787 This arouses me more than >>4661955, >>4669948, or >>4678849 do despite the big-ass monster there. Maybe it's the cute little breasts she has, or the tease censoring of her arse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:27:29 2010 No.4682133 >>4682080 or maybe it's because there's purple sticky things crawling up her thighs

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 15:31:29 2010 No.4682157 >>4682133 Could be.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:00:29 2010 No.4682374

Mir's perfection is a miracle of the universe. But I don't think calling her a kuudere properly suits her. She's not really emotionless, she just tries to pretend she is. She's really a seething cauldron of vengeance and sorrow. But deep down she is just lonely and wants a hug and a pat on the head. But at the same time, she trolls everyone around her, has a perpetual awesomeface.jpg smirk plastered on her face, and the world only survives because she can't be arsed to blow it up. And she sleeps naked. She is the epitome of Evil Moe.

Words like tsundere are used for pissy, abusive bitches. For girls who are possessed of a more profound evil, we need a better word. Mir is akudere.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 16:26:29 2010 No.4682527

>>4682374
>she just tries to pretend she is [emotionless]

I don't think that's really right. She just doesn't have explosive reactions to most things and doesn't bother feigning interest when she has none. She also isn't good at expressing herself in certain circumstances - like when she apologized to Luca for showing her how awesome she was at manipulating her cosmosphere - but if she wanted to pretend to be emotionless, she wouldn't even bother trying.

According to the Hymn note that came with the AT2 OST, Mir is megadere. I can't really argue after seeing level 8.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:03:29 2010 No.4682711 >>4682527 >megadere Explain? I'm not really good with the -dere definitions. I don't even know what kuudere is besides a vague idea. ;_;

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:04:29 2010 No.4682720 >>4682711 >>>/a/

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:08:29 2010 No.4682733 >>4682720 Hilarious. Hell no I'm not going to that shithole.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 17:12:29 2010 No.4682748 >>4682527 My pirated scans must be wrong. In Hymmnote II there is only sheet music for Utau Oka and EXEC_with.METHOD_METAFALICA/.

Anonymous Sat Mar 20 18:49:29 2010 No.4683330

>>4682748
I don't have pirated scans to verify, but I've found this webpage to be generally reliable and so don't have any reason to doubt it:
http://hymmno-dict.com/music_box_at2.html#shiryou_at2

> They put up a webpage for the soundtrack.
> Now that they've released the cover for Hymn note 2, I figured I'd better try to read the Hymnos on it right away ...
>
> t...　s...　u...　　　n...　　　huh?? (　ﾟдﾟ)
>
> Seems like a word I know pretty well?
> Nah, it's gotta be my imagination ... !
>
> (つд⊂)ｺﾞｼｺﾞｼ
>
> So I had another look, and read t s u n d e r e
> ... now, hang on a minute!
>
> AT2 has "tsundere" "yandere" "megadere", and shocked, I went back to check Hymn note 1 (Phantasmagoria vocal note's the same) and it has "moe"!
>
> (；ﾟдﾟ) I never noticed before!
> Who designed this cover? Teacher won't get mad, so please raise your hand, okay? *g*
>
> So at some point in AT2 a (secret?) megadere is going to appear? I look forward to release day~
>
> Hymn note covers, romanized version
> The left is AT1, the right is AT2
> * the ring of hymmnos on both covers is "Was ea ra chs hymnos mea".

Clearly:
* tsundere = Cloche
* yandere = Luca
* megadere = Mir

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 21:08:29 2010 No.4684422 >>4683330 HOLY SHIT. HOLY FUCKING SHIT. This is one of the most brick shitting moments in my life.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 20 21:27:29 2010 No.4684562 >>4683330 Interesting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 03:04:29 2010 No.4686601 File: 111 KB, 1024x768, Dohoho.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Why hello there innuendo.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 05:01:29 2010 No.4687376 File: 170 KB, 960x1160, Delicious thighs, must fap.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I can't help but be attracted to Finnel's thighs recently, they just seem so delicious.

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun Mar 21 05:43:29 2010 No.4687644 File: 219 KB, 1410x660, 9456059.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Another thread is safe!

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 12:16:29 2010 No.4689553 File: 452 KB, 650x1064, 1262915014238.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4687644 Of course.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 14:23:29 2010 No.4690283 File: 85 KB, 1280x800, dat ass.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] After studying this image for a solid 5 minutes I've come to the conclusion that Tilia truly has the best ass.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 14:25:29 2010 No.4690299 >>4690283 Even if it is NOT the best ass in overall, Tilia has the most magnificent presentation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 14:31:29 2010 No.4690331 File: 126 KB, 600x844, It's ok guys, the thread is safe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4690299 Who might you suggest has the best ass, Anonymous?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 14:54:29 2010 No.4690503 File: 1.97 MB, 2476x3268, 17.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4690331 Misha may have the best curves in the series, IMO. But she does not have such a glorious Apron and undies presentation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 14:58:29 2010 No.4690531 >>4690331 That's a great view. I could stare at that all day.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 15:12:29 2010 No.4690625 >>4690503 It's just an outfit. Misha would be more than delighted to parade herself in an apron if Lyner asked.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 15:15:29 2010 No.4690642 >>4690625 didn't she once suggest Lyner to use a sleeping drug on her?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 15:16:29 2010 No.4690657 File: 327 KB, 1123x1600, eoriabiyori004.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4690625 Lyner only cares about Mir, though.

Anonymous Sun Mar 21 15:58:29 2010 No.4691048
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>>4690503

Quite a few of the characters are curvy, Cloche, Misha etc. but they don't really seem to have the same dat ass effect that Tilia does, maybe because you don't expect her to have such a nice ass.

Also just sorted all my AT images into a single folder, feels good man.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 16:02:29 2010 No.4691092 File: 307 KB, 480x640, 9002414.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4691048 >curvy >2 characters >3 games

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 16:08:29 2010 No.4691162 >>4691092 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/etc

>>	ZUN !barYV1VtIA Sun Mar 21 22:04:29 2010 No.4694237 File: 465 KB, 800x1131, 9469157.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 22:08:29 2010 No.4694264 >>4694237 God, why are there so many ugly girls in Ar Tonelico?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 22:18:29 2010 No.4694335 >>4694264 Because you're looking in the mirror, not the TV.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 22:19:29 2010 No.4694341 >>4694335 Good grade school level insult bro. And are you saying I'm a girl?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 22:21:29 2010 No.4694357 >>4694341 Does your mom know you're gay?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 22:21:29 2010 No.4694358 >>4694341 Maaaybe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 22:38:29 2010 No.4694482 And trolling breaks the bump limit, good job.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 22:39:29 2010 No.4694490 >>4694482 I do my best.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 23:00:29 2010 No.4694696 I suppose I should make a new thread before this one dies or else the faggots on the archive will moan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 21 23:33:29 2010 No.4695036 >>4694696 Link it from here too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 22 00:02:29 2010 No.4695258 New thread at >>4695246.

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