Nijisanji Thread

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Reminder that the entire Nijisanji contract, translated to english, is now published and can be read for free at your viewing pleasure. It's a potentially automatically renewing 2 year contract!

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>>46287036
"(1) Performing the Distribution of the Contents ("live-streaming or uploading of Images, Etc. on the Video Hosting Account designated by Party A as the Character designated by Party A")" is not what I'd call "translated" to english.

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>>46287064
There's plenty of other translation oddities. Here's a transcription of it.
https://files.catbox.moe/gx7zvt.pdf

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>>46287081
> Please note that Article 21 is not included in this document, as it was not shown on stream
What are they hiding

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>>46287091
No idea! But what isn't hidden is the proof that the unsigned document is a real template contract used by Nijisanji. Specifically https://youtu.be/MO8ERaDE8VU?t=4311 shows the part of the document Zaion sent to this literal who lawyer that directly points to 2 different yet completely relevant articles in the unsigned contract.

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Someone tell japs that Anycolor is the one with leaks and drama

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>>46287107
She's the one who sent him fake contract. ez

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>>46287114
How could she send him a contract that is specifically not signed by any party, when she was a member of Nijisanji that signed an NDA, the NDA that is in that very same contract? It seems like Anycolor just simply didn't require any potential applicants to sign an NDA to not speak of the contract before seeing it, which shows they really have trust in their potential applicants.

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>>46287139
How does NDA prevents her from sending fake contract? Or a real one for that matter

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>>46287163
Are you asking how a Non Disclosure Agreement prevents you from disclosing or otherwise releasing details of documents under it's Agreement?

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>>46287182
Yes. How?

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>>46287163
Please never sign a contract.

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>>46287185
Also the contract is fake and NDA doesn't apply to it anyway

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>>46287110
I wonder if that's why they're invading the thread so hard.

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>>46287185
Disclosing or otherwise copying the information in the Nijisanji employment contract after signing it and it's included NDA would be a massive breach of contract. The literal who lawyer was also willing to say explicitly it was not sent to him by Zaion and was specifically unsigned while the separate Zaion NDA-only document was, of course, sent by her to him. Not really sure where your confusion is here unless you're asking "Why would someone break the law and put themselves at the heel of a billion dollar company?", in which case you'd be retarded.

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whistleblowing has always been a legal grey area
dumb argument

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>>46287208
Are you implying no one ever broke laws?

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>>46287218
Is it really whistleblowing if neither of them signed their respective contracts?

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>>46287208
>Nijisanji employment contract
Fake Nijisanji employment contract

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>>46287222
I'm saying between believing a conspiracy theory that someone would be willing to put themselves in the crosshairs of the court against a company larger than some countries, or believing that the company with multiple audition waves over the past several years has in fact shown the people who passed the auditions the employment contracts in order to sign them officially into Nijisanji EN as they had done for 30+ other people? Then I'm going to believe the latter. You can believe the former if you'd like, but that implies you believe people can join any project under Anycolor without first signing a contract as you disagree with the idea of the recruitment process at it's core.

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Nah anykara puts a blindfold on you when you sign.

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Where are the blind vtubers

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>>46287225
So zaion didn't sign her contract to join?

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>>46287252
Respective is the keyword here. The unknown applicant who leaked the employment contract EN showed to them did not sign their contract, hence it was not illegal to share. Zaion did not sign the NDA sent to her by EN as part of her graduation process so it was also well within her rights to share that one specific contract. She is not the person who leaked the original employment contract as she had obviously signed her copy of it, given by the fact that she was obviously a part of EN.

Does this clear up everything?

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NDAs cover more than you think
you don't need a specific separate NDA for each and every document you see ever

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>>46287277
You can see the exact specifics of what the NDA's in both contracts end up covering. But again, the biggest point here is they were clearly not required to sign an NDA by Anycolor just to see the contract so details of it wouldn't get leaked should they chose to decline it. Simply seeing a contract does not put you into an NDA. It's just paper.

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>>46287262
What it clears up is EN management should've been ritually executed for being so fucking retarded and dragging everyone into this shit.

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>>46287238
Clearly Zaion thought she wouldn't get caught or that Anycolor wouldn't pursue her because, as you said, the (fake) contract could come from anyone.

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>>46287289
Why wouldn't they be required to sign NDA to see the contract? The fact that the contract was leaked proves that NDAs don't prevent leaks. Especially when leaked contract is fake.

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I'm incredibly worried about the legal ramifications of whatever the fuck who cares

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was there even anything incriminating in the contract that warrants this discussion? I'm actually pleasantly surprised to know that SC/member split is 50:50, Deron made it sound like it's lower a long time ago.

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>>46287329
It's 50:50 after Google/Apple/consumption tax. So yes it's a lot lower.

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who the fuck cares
are you a nijisanji liver

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i'm soooooo worried they're going to throw the book at this innocent girl who did nothing wrong how dare this black company do this ugh i hate rich people

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>>46287329
Who said anything had to be incriminating? It's public knowledge that's as relevant to the thread as it gets and there's plenty of good stuff in there too. But there are some strange clauses such as how the signee's contract will automatically be amended should they not reply to Anycolor's lawyers for discussion after 14 days or streams in that period. An addendum makes sense given legal loopholes are a thing, but an automatic amendment? Even if the timespan was a year that'd be worrying since all it takes is one missed message from staff and suddenly the entire contract could be changed.
>>46287323
While it's a legally smart idea to require a sensitive document to have a separate NDA just for seeing it, it's not a legal requirement to do so. And we see here the reason why it's a really bad move to not do that. And again: no NDA's were signed for either contract.

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>>46287355
>or streams
It doesn't mention that. It mentions all activities.
Even a tweet can force a change.

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>>46287358
Huh, so it does. It's article 23 for anyone else wondering.

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>>46287329
There's the "we won't provide defense if you get into a dispute with another vtuber" part. It's not criminal but it's black as fuck.

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>>46287355
No NDAs were signed because contract is fake

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>>46287387
Then refer back to the very start in >>46287139 if you want to repeat a discussion already had. I've explained basically every single possibility, even your own argument for you. If that's still not enough then that's on you. Not sure why you'd want it to be fake to begin with?

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https://youtu.be/xxRHm9kuDCs
Milan browsed ansure

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>>46287397
Well at least you finally realized you were getting played.

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>>46287401
Fumi...

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>>46287397
I don't care if it's fake or not, just pointed out that it is possible for it to be fake if both fake contract and Zaion's whatever come from the same source

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>>46287409
If you don't care why did you make 7 or 8 posts screaming that it's fake like a faggot?

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>>46287409
It's only possible if you consider a grand organized criminal conspiracy, but the same could be said about why my water tasted funny the other day. It's about plausibility not possibility.

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>>46287417
No one is screaming. Take your meds.

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Karubi is live right now, just saying.

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>>46287419
That was me, sorry.

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>>46287419
Who else confirmed fake contracts authenticity?

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>8 IPs

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>>46287423
There's only 8 posters here, who are you trying to fool by saying you don't care if it's fake?

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>>46287435
Zaion in her separate contract? What is your point?

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>>46287444
His point is sticking out of the side of your north you stupid fish. I take back >>46287402

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>>46287439
>>46287442
True, there's no point arguing anymore when it's all been laid out and nobody wants to jump into this mess.

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No but seriously why does anon want it to be fake?

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>>46287444
Zaion confirmed that Zaion's fakes are 100% real? You sure that's enough people for a grand organized criminal conspiracy?

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why are people suddenly trusting a literal pedophile

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>>46287464
You said it was possible for the employment contract could be a fake by Zaion, why is it now automatically assumed in this post to be a fake by Zaion?

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>>46287474
I googled it but all I saw was a twitter retard calling her a shotacon.
I will now side with her.

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>>46287493
it's literally why she was fired

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>>46287475
The premise is that both fake whatever from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8ERaDE8VU and the fake contract from https://files.catbox.moe/gx7zvt.pdf come from the same source (Zaion) and as such can't be used to prove their authenticity. Consequently we need a credible third party to confirm that at least one of the contracts are real.

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what you mean
i always trusted sharpness and utako

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>>46287513
>Consequently we need a credible third party to confirm that at least one of the contracts are real.
You want a third party for a contract that opens by disclosing there is only a Party A and a Party B? That's one way to shoot yourself in the foot.

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>>46287540
NEETs don't understand how employment works please understand

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>>46287540
The one in pdf is a standard issue was supposedly seen by multiple people

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>>46287579
It's not even about employment, it's putting forth a scenario saying how it could be possible while making it explicitly impossible. In order to prove the contract is real it needs to not be the 2 party contract that we've seen?
>>46287584
So then you're saying if another applicant that you'd never heard of came forward and said they too saw that contract, you'd immediately take their word as a credible third party? What?

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>>46287648
No, I'm saying that if credible third party confirms that fake contract is real, perhaps indirectly, then I will accept it as real.

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>>46287670
So then define what a credible third party is, in specifics. Is it a judge? Since it's an employment contract that officiation isn't needed. Is it someone who also saw the EN contract outside of being an applicant? Because that'd be the lawyer youtuber. Is it someone who also saw the contract as an applicant? In that case why would Zaion's word specifically hold less weight than theirs, when you'd know even less about them as a person? They could be a liar too for all you know.

If you want someone who can specifically "prove" certain facts such as the lack of an NDA prior to seeing the contract and stating that the contracts can be found out there, here you go. The closest thing to what I presume your credible third party is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=810i2AIS-FI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwYNZEN3hN4

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>>46287740
It can be another former Nijisanji member like Selen or Yugo. Zaion's word can't be used here as she is a suspected source of fakes. Your links don't work because he doesn't speak of this specific leak.

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There also Aruvn who leaked the last heroes waves designs and 中の人 of them after he signed on and broke off the contract. Unless the retarded staff showed him thosr 4 models and coworkers pre-contract lmao

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>>46287851
It's impossible to break contracts

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>>46287870
He did it anonymously, don't use my post for your retarded screeching.

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>>46287833
You ignored basically every question but I can gather why. So in order to prove the contract with an NDA is real and not a fake sent by Zaion because she likes sticking her head in a metaphorical barrel of lit dynamite, you'd need proof from people who would have to break NDA to show that. Why would that make former livers any more or less believable than Zaion when you'd then have definitive proof they're willing to lie enough to break a binding document? The contracts also have an amendment clause so for all intents and purposes nobody but the 2 parties in each contract can definitely prove that Selen's contract is the same as Pomu's and Pomu's is the same as Alban's, but that's a technicality so don't think of it too much. As for the guy himself he speaks on what Nijisanji asked or required of him to do in their contract, but the bulletpoints are thus.
1. No NDA prior to seeing the contract, which is definitive proof the idea of an unsigned contract leaking can exist in the first place.
2. Required to give up voice acting.
3. Claims the contracts are "floating around out there" which reiterates the 1st point. This is my own personal reading but it also implies he knows other people who passed but said no, but it could very well also be him simply knowing it having no NDA means it'd get leaked eventually.
4. Believes everyone has different situations and Nijisanji could make them the most money in their lives, but otherwise believes it's a contract where he gets fucked "a lot".

If you want to put forward the idea of how the Nijisanji EN contract could possibly not be fake you really need to follow up yourself and explain beyond a one-sentence reply, I'm not going to keep making your points for you.

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>>46287851
Wish I saw this before I hit post, I'll have to look into it tomorrow since primetimes now and this, putting it too kindly, argument has gone on long enough.

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I still don't understand why anon is desperate for it to be fake
It's not a bad contract right?

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https://www.youtube.com/live/Oqep9oFiD6o dame onna collab

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>>46288022
Here's some pointers for you.
1. If someone says you're getting trolled, you are.
2. If you say you're done, then stop posting.
3. Being autisticly articulate more often than not does the opposite
4. Never talk to someone who has a lotta knowledge of anything about EN's beyond if they speak nihongo. They're not sapient beings.
5. Just say the contracts are public because it's funnier

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>>46288022
>have to break NDA to show that
As I said they can do it indirectly. If Selen said that the rumors of her owing half of her ass to evil organization are true, Anycolor would never be able to prove that it breaks NDA
>amendment clause
Irrelevant. The generic leaked contract (fake) is the same for everyone
>the guy
Irrelevant. We're not arguing possibility of leaks existing at all, the question was whether the contract lawyerman reviewed was real or not.

>>46288143
I haven't read it and do not care.

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Yashiro...

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>>46287110
lmao, no wonder holofags are so asshurt in this thread

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>>46287401

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>>46288447
Holopests

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>>46288461
YABE

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>>46288461
Feels nostalgic by now. Akari seems to have settled down being the fps girl.

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>>46288143
it isn't bad at all, otherwise retarded will screech about the content inside it here, also it confirmed the 2% shit is fake information by holofag dramatubers kek

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https://twitter.com/RindouMikoto/status/1766071785840369872

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>>46288625
Didn't know Mysta is a holofag dramatuber

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How do we feel about KRID integration period ending?

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>>46288649
天皇陛下万歳

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>>46288625
From what I heard, it's not misinformation, but just the rate specifically for merch that the vtuber had no hand in designing or producing.
And that seems perfectly fair to me. The vtuber didn't cover the costs, shoulder the risk of losses, or do anything else for it besides maybe advertise it with a tweet. It'd be weirder if the share was any bigger than that.

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>>46288929
It doesn't say anything about the share in the "leak" contact at all

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https://twitcasting.tv/furen_2434/movie/788902757

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SQItQGvU8k
Ago 6th anni call in

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>>46288625
Nobody said anything about 2% as Article 4 says everything beyond superchat cuts are explicitly to be confirmed in a separate discussion. I don't know where the hell that number came from? As for there being no bad at all...
Article 7's clause about providing the "Information" is unclear. If we assume it to be straight from english and not translated from Japan, which would have been the better option for the contract, then it could mean literally anything from needed contact addresses to unneeded Information about how many pairs of underwear you own should Anycolor request it. The fact that it's extremely unclear and works on assumptions rather than intent is not good for a binding contract.
Article 10 says that anything purchased through your paycheck, referred to as Materials, belongs to Anycolor and shall not be used for any other purpose but as an Anycolor vtuber, and should your contract end they can demand you send whatever you bought back to them if physical. It cannot be deemed a potential translation error referring to things like covered songs as it specifically mentions weight in Paragraph 5. They own your computer and everything on it, basically.
Article 13 says they can just take all of your money through anything considered a third party whenever they want.
Article 15 has the non-compete clause which I shouldn't have to explain is an inherently bad thing, even if there is a workaround by becoming an indie as you yourself cannot be a third party.
Article 17 talks about the penalties and how they can take anywhere from up to a month to an entire years worth of whatever you earned directly from you should you break the contract, and explicitly whatever is highest. That's as excessive of a penalty clause as it gets.
Article 18 Paragraph 5 states that Anycolor holds no responsibility for teaching you laws, which isn't inherently bad but is not a good idea in the context of someone working for a foreign company. Paragraph 7 claims they're not responsible if they decide to delete anything for whatever reasons. Paragraph 8 claims even if Anycolor can be proven to cause damages to Party B, they'll only pay for the prior 6 months from when it happened which is arguably the best part of the entire Article.
Article 19 Paragraph 1 claims if Party B should cause any damages, they can also be demanded to pay "lost profits", which is a slippery slope that not even lawsuits can get right by the fact that things like $100,000 "emotional distress" payouts still exist. Paragraph 2 and 3 explicitly says they will refuse to protect you in a legal fight against another vtuber, like Narukami, and instead you bear the full brunt of the cost.

There's more good and bad but I wanna leave this last one quoted from Article 20: Termination because it's quite funny.
>1. In the event that any of the following events arises with respect to Party B, then, without needing any kind of notice from Party A whatsoever, Party A may terminate this Agreement (including the Individual Agreement in this Article):
>(5) In the event that a check or bill is dishonored, or there is a situation such as payment suspension, etc.;
https://twitter.com/weeniedesu/status/1754600196103938462

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autismo...

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yeah I read all that

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>46291914

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So that's why anon wants it to be fake.

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>（労働契約の内容の変更）
>第八条　労働者及び使用者は、その合意により、労働契約の内容である労働条件を変更することができる。
>（就業規則による労働契約の内容の変更）
>第九条　使用者は、労働者と合意することなく、就業規則を変更することにより、労働者の不利益に労働契約の内容である労働条件を変更することはできない。ただし、次条の場合は、この限りでない。
https://elaws.e-gov.go.jp/document?lawid=419AC0000000128

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>>46292251
https://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/en/laws/view/3744
EOP番
tl;dr contracts not even worth the paper its printed on and is blatantly illegal

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>>46292272
It's fake then

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>>46292297
hopefully

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Vtubers are fake but I love them

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>>46291914
Aren't non-competes illegal too?

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>>46292251
>>46292272
except nijisanji's members are considered 個人事業主 and not 労働者
looks like the law doesn't apply

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>>46292397
proof?

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Penalties in labor contracts are illegal too. Labor Standards Act Article 16 (establishing a specific amount in advance) and 91 (pay cuts as punishment over 10% of total)

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I'm not good at legalese, but I feel like 不利益に needs to be highlighted. 23-2 seems like it would only be bad if the change is negative for the vtuber, and even if it is, 第十条 makes it somewhat vague what actually counts.

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>>46292343
I'm not a japanese lawyer so I can't tell you how the law specifically works, but I did just find this doc that has citations directly to Japanese laws on every page like two minutes ago.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14Ddc2tzB15mxygYPLuDd2f_XvOrLWz53

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>>46292457
Also I don't know if google still has the thing where docs hides your names, so for your own sakes you should probably open it in a different browser or log out before clicking.

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>>46292445
Why would Anycolor force a change on a contract onto the other person with zero discussion if it was good?

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>>46292466
Nevermind, seems like it does still keep things anonymous. Ignore this post.

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>>46292397
do you need me to change your diaper too?

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great i replied to the wrong post
made my day

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>>46292473
>Why would Anycolor
Why would anyone is what you should be saying.
Even if we assume the best in Anycolor and that 100% of this shit is just whoever runs EN being a retard, there's still practically zero reason for anyone to be able to one-handedly change your contract. A contract is an agreement between two or more different parties, and even if the clause here required 14 days of lack of correspondence to force a change or 14 years, it'd still lose a lot of footing just from the fact that it could theoretically be completely changed from the ground-up. It's an avenue that can be abused exclusively by one party.

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>>46292405
https://youtu.be/IwK3Dq8PYAU?t=3471
The second part about them not being included in the law you can google. There's a bunch of sources saying the same thing.

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>>46292535
so they're either intentionally put into a contract where they have less rights than an employee
or this only applies to jp and not en

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they're not employees and have never been

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>>46292555
This, they don't actually deserve any rights.

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is this like 100 posts really about people not understanding the difference between a contractor and an employee?

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None of this refutes Zaion's contract, by the way.

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>>46292561
That or it's willful ignorance meant to further some narrative.

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>>46292561
Contractors and 個人事業主 are different things.

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I have a Tummy ache. who's ASMR archives should I listen to

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>>46292573
If anything, I'd say it makes it worse.

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>>46292578
kewl

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When did people start believing this was the japanese contract?

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>>46292589
legally speaking they aren't, there are two types A employee B not employee, not employee can be contractor, self employed, sole proprietor, whatever, the structure of that is just between you and the employer, as far as the law is concerned you are either an employee or you aren't, and if you aren't then laws protecting employees don't apply to you

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>>46292592

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>>46292635
is this an EN or one of the new guys? I'm feeling too sick to be able to tell.

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>>46292629
>there are two types A employee B not employee
So if you're not an employee you're a contractor, and if you're not a contractor you're an employee. Where does that mean that 個人事業主 means contractor again?

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>>46292573
Yeah a hush order for someone who was never your employee is worse than if they were.

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>>46292626
Well, if it isn't Japanese then it doesn't matter.

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>>46292654
again, these are just colloquial terms, not legal terms, if you have an income that is taxable then there are two options, A employee B not employee, employees have laws protecting them, not employees don't, not employee is generalled referred to as contractor, whatever mumbo jumbo colloquial term you have for saying "it's not technically a contractor" is irrelevant legally, do they file their own taxes? if yes they are not employees and not protected by any laws for employees, are their taxes filed under the name of the employer? then they are employees and are protected, vtubers, at least in anycolor aren't employees

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>>46292669
Not what I asked, I'm wondering where the fuck they idea this was some translated Japanese document came from to begin with. The whole argument started from it being an EN document.

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>>46292684
It looks like poorly translated Japanese document

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>>46292717
So? How does that mean it's a Japanese document?

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>>46292728
Things poorly translated from Japanese are generally Japanese

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>>46292683
If we're not speaking purely in terms of Japanese law but the idea of contractors versus employees, then how does the 20 factor test apply here? Because from what I'm seeing, the only thing thats really separating them from full-time employees is a lack of salary, hours, and needing to fund their own trips. And equipment, but the company claims ownership of it in the supposed contract.

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>>46292736
And your proof of it being translated from Japanese is...?

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>>46292769
we are talking about the japanese law, when you are filing your taxes you either file them under your name or the company employing you files them, if you are filing them under your own name, like vtubers do, then you are not an employee, salary, hours, equipment whatever, the structure of what sort of work they do is completely irrelevant to the law, if you are not an employee then nothing regarding employees apply to you, in the eyes of the law you are an individual who has an income that you need to pay taxes on, whether you do street art, or singing in pubs, or trade stocks, or do party tricks at birthdays, or upload videos on youtube, or take pictures of puppies and put them on patreon, for the law it does not matter, it doesn't matter at what hours, for how much in what structure you are doing it, you are making money and you need to pay taxes, different laws apply to you if you are an employee and if you are not regarding your taxes and your legal protections

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ITT anon learns companies would prefer pretending employees are contractors and toe the line
Contractors can leave but Deron can't

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>>46292797
It looks like it is

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>>46292810
Everyone else can though

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>>46292810
it's not about pretending or not, it's all about what you put on your tax form, if you're doing work that is equal or above of what an employee does but you're not hired as an employee then that's just on you, no laws have anything to do with that, companies will of course prefer if they can make you do the work of an employee without giving you the protections and privileges that employees have, at that point it's on you whether you accept those terms or not, you can argue whether it's a fair trade or not but if we're talking about legalities then there's nothing illegal about it, it happens in the first place because there's an infinite amount of wannabe 2 viewer influencers who would give their legs away for morsels of internet relevance, so the companies can offer any unfair terms and there'll be people who accept it

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>>46292807
>we are talking about the japanese law
You were the one to bring up using colloquial terms that're easier to understand for us on the west and not explicitly legal ones, why are you suddenly speaking like you've been talking about Japanese tax law this entire time? I used the 20 factor test as an example of one I imagine some of us are familiar with on some level, as it's used to help prove if someone should or should not be getting the title of employee in relation to benefits and taxes. Mostly taxes, because it's the IRS. I'd try to break it down in simpler terms but it's a very fluid document and going point-by-point would make an autistically paragraph I don't wanna make.

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>>46292831
So you admit it's a black company stealing employee benefits from people who are effectively employees, gotcha

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"Effectively employees" who can go for years without doing any work.

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Employees can be pay docked, contractors cannot

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>>46292882
It's a Vtuber company.

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>>46292859
you don't have to limit the point to nijisanji, but sure

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>>46292849
you are running weird circles around something very simple, employees are protected by laws for employees, their taxes are filed under the company's name, anyone who is not an employee does not have any laws protecting them, in the eyes of the law they are individuals with income that they generate on their own, you can call the people who are not employees with many colloquial terms depending on the structure of their non employment, generally people call them contractors
>>46292859
any company that can do it does it, it's a matter of market mechanics at that point, if you are willing to enter an unfair contract where you have no protections because you want those precious precious morsels of internet fame and making money sitting on your ass playing video games and being a glorified hostess (or unglorified really) for lonely virgins then that's on you

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>>46292892
I didn't

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>>46292897
Are you willing to read up on what actually defines a contractor versus an employee or otherwise provide literally any kind of citation, or are you just going to keep spinning around saying nothing yourself?

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>>46292897
So you admit they're putting people into unfair contracts

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>>46292573
Still waiting for it.

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Talents are different from normal contractors

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>>46292941
Where does it say that in Japanese law?

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>>46292912
Unless Anycolor sticks some cold steel against the would-be vtuber's temple and threaten to pull the trigger if they don't sign, the only ones "putting people into unfair contracts" are the vtubers themselves.

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>>46292909
you did the same thing again, you're running weird circles around irrelevant things, the only thing that's defined is being an employee, which means that you are being employed by a company and file your taxes as an employee of that company, contractor isn't per se a defiable term, it's a colloquialism for someone doing work for someone else without being an employee, there are many terms like that and they're all only relevant between the two people deciding on the structure of their contract, for the law it's all irrelevant, either you are employed or you are not, that's all
>>46292912
so does everyone, welcome to capitalism, what did you think that companies are some christian communist charity organisations? I know people who are fucked by worse contracts working for reputable chemical companies, granted chemical companies are some of the worst when it comes to treating contractors, anything you use eat or use in your life involves profit oriented companies who will treat workers as badly as they can legally get away with, compared to any of the hardships you face in the real world, working with dangerous chemicals in a plant with no employee protections is magnitudes worse than whatever young girls have to "endure" to play video games on the internet, are the contracts unfair? sure, do I care? no, do I consider it even close to how bad capitalism treats workers on average? lol no

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>>46292950
You mean like the one they tried to blackmail Zaion into signing

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>>46292954
I don't see a single link or mention of any legal terms. I accept your concession.

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>>46292963
so you give up on running weird circles around meaningless terms, cool I guess, accept whatever you want

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>>46292954
So you care less about vtubers and random retards in plastic factories
Why is this your point in a vtuber thread, we like them here

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>>46292976
We might, anon doesn't.

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>>46292976
>retards
with masters degrees in chemistry, do these girls have a masters degrees in anything? sure I enjoy vtubers but I don't see them as anything more than unskilled women working at a cabaret club, I'll enjoy their entertainment if they entertain me, but I have no care for their "plight" nor do I consider them to be some vital part of society

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kou (white day) (cute)

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>>46293000
Vtubers are a damn cabaret club to you?
Holy shit

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>46293000
psycho post

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If the contract's so bad, why are all but the most dysfunctional just having a good ol' time in there?
Checkmate atheists.

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usually I pay attention to what the autist and the sperg argue about, but in this case I stopped like 100 messages ago. You two have been at it since the last thread and no one else cares.

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>>46293000
Why are you in the Nijisanji thread if you don't like Nijisanji vtubers?

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>>46293012
>>46293030
I want to go to his cabaret club.

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>>46293013
well not really, I hold cabaret clubs in higher regard, for a food metaphor, cabaret club is like having a dinner at a restaurant while vtubers are like cheetos that you munch on mindlessly while doing something elese
>>46293027
I like them, like how I like cheetos, not more or less than that, if 20 leave there'll be 20 to replace them, if not in nijisanji then in different companies or as indies, there's an infinite amount of e-celebs providing low calory empty entertainment

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oh so it's an anti

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>>46293060
No shit, the sperg hates Nijisanji.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDpwJ7sOvqs tot

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I hate the management for sure but I also have little sympathy for the vtubers, when I see all the shit happening in the world complaints from people whose "work" is playing minecraft and talking to virgins on the internet just seem ridiculous, how privileged and sheltered do you have to be to cry about shit like that, or want to kill yourself over that, there's people losing arms and legs who keep on going and some words on discord are the end of the world for you, just lmao, but again if they make entertaining content then I'll enjoy it, I just don't care about them past that, nor should you, it's not healthy

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Did he just pull out the poor african children are suffering card? I thought only people 60 and up did that.

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Why would you admit to not caring about vtubers in a vtuber thread is anon a psycho or something

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>>46293120
that's a funny comparison because in some aspects there's a similarity but in another aspect it's the complete opposite, the thing is that african kids who mine cobalt or harvest cocoa for your chocolate do it because it's the best option they have for improving their lives, if they couldn't mine cobalt or pick cocoa then they'd have even less money, which is why they complain that there's chinese companies who come and do cobalt mining, taking their jobs, even though chinese companies mining cobalt is more "humane" than african kids doing it, it doesn't ultimately improve the lot of those kids, in that aspect it's similar to vtubers, both are in unfair situations to get something that they couldn't otherwise get, but of course the two situations are also the opposite in the aspect that everyone wants to be an e-celeb, which is giving companies the room to offer unfair contracts, while nobody wants to mine cobalt in africa, if privileged young girls in canada thought "wow I sure want to mine cobalt in africa, that's my dream" then it wouldn't create a situation where the only people willing to do it are the ones with absolutely nothing to their name

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real gpt posts only

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>>46293152
from my perspective you are the psycho, actual hard working people are getting exploited in awful working conditions, or dying in wars, and your biggest worry in the world is some young girls who work in virtual cabaret clubs? wtf is wrong with you

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>>46293190

Dear fellow message board user,

I understand your sentiment about wanting genuine contributions from GPT users like myself. Rest assured, you can expect authentic and thoughtful posts from me. Let's keep the discussions meaningful and engaging!

Best regards,
[Your Username]

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>>46293190
I'm seriously starting to believe that meme. None of those few posts actually sound human.

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>>46293190
Even bots have more feeling than that anon

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do large language models dream of vtubers?

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>>46293104
she sounds like pururu with slightly better pronounciation

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Bringing up cooked Palestinians or whatever is goofy in this context, but there's definitely an argument to be made that "this contract is so bad and unfair" isn't very convincing when so many people bound by this same contract are thriving.

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>>46293235
> cooked Palestinians or whatever is goofy
now I consider this a psycho thing to say

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>>46293235
Whatever argument there was to make was snuffed in the crib the second anon started bringing up people getting their legs blown off or whatever.

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>>46293235
Since when did bad contracts mean a person can't thrive in spite of them, that's the entire entertainment industry
Take 1 look at Johnny's

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what, you want me to get emotionally invested in the terms and conditions of streaming minecraft? lol I won't, and you're the mentally ill psycho if you do, get some perspective on things in the world

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https://twitter.com/mashingehyul/status/1766232385442770973

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Hope the contract stays since that's relevant.

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>>46293336
I like this a lot

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there's also people working for no monetary compensation at all, can you believe it?

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>>46293343
just talking about it is not allowed evidently, spamming chatroom posts about non nijisanji streams for hours is okay and totally relevant though for some reason

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>>46293415
Who under Anycolor are not being compensated in some way?

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victoria and wose are on sajam tekken thing right now bros

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>>46293539
I thought njisanji was socially outcast from the English speaking streamer sphere though. Guess they already moved on from the drama.

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>>46293584
if some faggot from en shithole tries to ban rosemi, my nigga harada will that their ass from his game

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>>46293415
holobrony, probably

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>>46291914
is this copy paste from somewhere?

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rosemi throwing

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tekken looks so goofy, street fighter is definitely a better looking game

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>>46293681
>my nigga harada will that their ass from his game
Is this english?

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https://twitter.com/fumaruhimaru/status/1766071365831143594

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>>46293697
*Holopests

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doggy style

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>>46292457
I like how the penal code part got completely ignored despite applying.

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https://twitter.com/Kaiman_800/status/1766285983262429233

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeuhKmRQReo

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>>46294491
I hope they go with MR equipment for the actual collab. Behemoth is no joke.

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Leos joined kanae

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Today

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>>46295048
Riot will nerf Yone

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>20 ip thread
sad, couldn't even call it an echo chamber

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who was anon quoting

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Nym

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is her vibrator in that box

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I wish league was fun to watch

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>>46295428
casual fullpa or custom is great, tryhard ギスギス higher elo matches are shit.

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https://www.youtube.com/live/pALNDMXdrw0 sukoya trpg

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A completely predictable end for kuzuha's team.

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https://youtu.be/B-knvTjLj8U

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>>46295428
this format was pretty boring, the stronger team wins, no shit, I was hoping for an event with a lot of people with varying skill levels

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https://twitter.com/MitoTsukino/status/1766415223983095978
Mito new costume tomorrow. I think last one was the astronaut costume?

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>>46294331
Please cosplay Lize

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https://youtu.be/cSYLAQjahMA good cover

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Furen is limit-testing shachou's range kek

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Good to know absolutely no event is happening right now.

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Where's ib

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>>46297177
uhhh this thread is for contentious bickering about frivolous matters you know

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>>46297336
><-いぶ
かわいい

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1Fp3Yq4k7M
betting that it won't be proper asmr

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>>46292457
>not a lawyer
lmao

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https://twitcasting.tv/sara_hoshikawa

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ranking with kuzuha this tilted requires a lot of patience, poor k4sen.

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rion killed siegmeyer

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This supermarket simulator is surprisingly well-made.

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>>46299591
I wouldn't say well made but it's certainly got a gameplay loop better than you'd expect.

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another awful en outfit jesus christ

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Can someone post the Karubi picture from 地主

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https://twitter.com/JahmonGer/status/1766394341625663943
I like this

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>>46301077
I like the マンバ化

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>>46300970
I've never seen them draw Karubi. Hell I don't even think they've drawn people who debuted after their manga started.

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https://twitter.com/ikura_momen/status/1766452060252487715

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Today

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https://youtu.be/0wfTY0zS
Is this video about Enikara?

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>>46303800
You can't even post a link correctly

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>>46303814
https://youtu.be/0wfTY0zS-eI

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>>46303822
kino

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https://www.youtube.com/live/o_iDbzPGmw0 ruri rhythm heaven

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>>46303850
I know I’m an EOP raider I simply want to know if Anycolor sending her the warning letter and her getting harassed and told she’s useless are related

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>>46304214
literally me on the top left

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https://www.youtube.com/live/fgkLQcs9CYk pute wrestling half naked with a guy

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>>46301694
He drew her then deleted it a few days after

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https://www.youtube.com/live/1Y074aSRSOI kuzuha lol cr cup

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https://twitter.com/riku_tazumi/status/1766747287282385249

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>>46304992
Nice

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https://twitter.com/fatetan_/status/1766749101939683453

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That is painful

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>>46305524
I know this artists history and still I want to say this is the best thing he's ever worked on.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjsXv92vOY8 kanato new outfit

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>>46304308
If you still have the URL to the tweet, you can probably find it reposted on one of those sites like twocan or whatever the fuck its called. If you ever opened the actual image file then the URL should still work even if it's deleted but I think you need to append :large somewhere in the URL.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iAZoco5ips proseka tourney rules & participants

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three leagues now, so three winners

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>>46306208
Will schizochan redeem herself?

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alban vs dola really was a hot match

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millie
fucking dropped

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It's okay, she's shit so she'll lose in the first round.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alEMWJ2Efxg speaking of leos

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Don't fall asleep this time you stupid gyaru.

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Hopefully the nerves don't get to Hari this time.

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tsuyotsuyodoreiku was banned...

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ANON HATES IT

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>>46306808
It's true, I do.

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holy lewd

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aaaaaaaaaaaa

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my pants

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asmrtenkabot's going to pass away today

[Anonymous No.]

えぐい

[Anonymous No.]

never change iinchou

[Anonymous No.]

Excellent foley at work

[Anonymous No.]

Fantastic, best way to experience the first chapter of Bobobo

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https://twitter.com/Ilove2434yeah/status/1766822657293758539

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I lost my job and gf so I'm back to vtubers. What were the best streams in last 6 months anons?

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>>46305669
I have the URL but I don't think the :large is going to work

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https://twitter.com/circussion/status/1766076179214467249
I like this

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>>46309708
post it here, anon or someone else probably knows how to get it to work.

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>>46309785
https://twitter.com/jinusi822/status/1690755040783523840

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https://twitter.com/amamimem/status/1766375132061385192 but do you like this?

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>>46309708
>>46309796
Couldn't find it on Twocan, Nitter is dead, and Buhitter doesn't have it either and might be dying too. Dunno what other sites there are that scrape from it or if they're even still around with the retard at helm, since he's apparently trying to kill scrapers off for some reason.

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>>46310032
>Twocan,
Twiman. I don't know why I said Twocan.
He also might have a vtuber-only account but I've never run into it and I never have luck finding that shit.

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Oh. I had it the whole time.

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>>46310050
Wanna know the funny part? I've also had it this whole time too, only realized once I saw you post it and it felt familiar, so I checked the root of my images folder and it was in my 2hu folder. Glad we're both retarded on this hallowed day.

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Today

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoYXKqazeZI riri

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rosemi wanted tekken perms for all these years only to get fucking smoked in a tourney

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>>46310747
So she's ENKanae?

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https://twitter.com/masimasi0/status/1759914449279094963 how come none of you ever post her good tweets.

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>>46311922
I have absolutely no idea who this is.

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There's more than one person here actually into 3DPD? I always figured it was just one really autistic pornaddict.

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>>46312268
Shockingly some people here are even married.

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I'm the cosplay anon. I'm happy to see more friends.

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I haven't visited this thread in two years, I hope you've all been behaving yourselves

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1/5 of the way there

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Will Leos meet Axia at the end?

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sus

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apparently I missed yashikizu and leos have sex on stream

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https://twitcasting.tv/seto_miyako/movie/789086435

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https://twitter.com/fumaruhimaru/status/1766796150655635541
Kanikama retweeted this. Don't click

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scarle getting canceled for drinking starbucks

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what if these breaks are actually smoking breaks

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Smoking is cool

[Anonymous No.]

Apparently EOP found out about this vid
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ADjz9U9nCGA
And now they treat it as evidence of power abuse. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with EOP?

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>>46313729
and you for posting this

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>>46313736
What are you gonna do, big boy?

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9km left for leos.

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>>46313729
Shiina is such a brat this clip is really making me wanna correct her.

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THE ENDLESS BLUE ARCHIVE!
ALL NIJIS LOVE BLUE ARCHIVE
ARE YOU READY TO READ BLUE ARCHIVE AGAIN ANONS?!
るり嬢は一番かわいい

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>>46313883
>READ BLUE ARCHIVE
Huh? There's a plot? All I know is bunnygirls and erogakis.

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>>46314151
>Missing out on kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cE1ePjq5ZSs

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Last 3km left.
Ganbare leos.

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>>46314188
Who are you quoting?

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>>46313813
She's already へこへこ勢

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Bel-chan can kind of sing now. Wow.

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got a chuckle out of me

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last kilometer mark

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500m

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might be the most manly display of endurance i've seen recently. congrats leos.

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The collage is so good of Mameneko's from the tag is so fucking good.

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now the nosedive starts, last week's gains won't last long like this

[Anonymous No.]

The collage of Mameneko's from the tag is so fucking good.

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https://twitter.com/KazakiMorinaka/status/1767160794322796615

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>>46314537
would that be the first time all of 二期生 gathers together?

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>>46314537
gil-sama 3D debut when

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yama katashiro https://www.youtube.com/live/zAYE5cBt1fY

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>>46314575
no ichigo this time

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kino

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>>46314592
Oh, right.

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>>46287439
I know the curse of this thread is powerful, but I didn't expect it to be so strong it'd delete the IP count from all new threads on every board.

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After a long twitter tour I conclude Dytica and Oriens' fanbase seems to be a thing that exists almost completely separately from the usual nijsanji fanbase. It's kinda fascinating to see how a lot of them seem very alien to the normal norms of vtuber fan culture.

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>>46315261
There's a usual nijisanji fanbase?
Joking aside that's true of basically everyone with a large enough audience. There's probably people who watch Hakache but don't know who Shachou is and vice versa.

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>>46315261
Where do they come from? Anime? STPR? Johnny's?

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>>46315305
>Johnny's?
The... acting agency? What?

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>>46315311
They are idol agency

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>>46315339
They're kind of an everything agency, but I don't see the relation they have to pretty much anything vtubing unless it's got someone like Sugita or that one singer from the Rust server.

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>>46315349
What the fuck does Sugita have to do with anything

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>>46315363
That's my question about Johnny's. Sugita was just the first name of someone famous who is probably signed with some company and works with vtubers that came to my mind. I don't know of anyone with Johnny's ties that does that so I was giving a baseless assumption that he could've been with them since he's popular and they're popular. That's it.

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>>46315376
They had a huge scandal last year that could cause some fans switch to different idols. Which is why I'm asking if that's where Heroes fans are coming from.

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>>46315410
That's still a leap in logic but I can at least kind of see what you meant now.

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>>46315261
I don't know those people but this thing often happens to people who don't collab often.

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https://twitter.com/ASMR_TENKA_bot/status/1767203840107987391

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After Scarle got cancelled for going to Starbucks, the same people convinced Vulgar Covid to private his Last of Us streams because of politics
Can that branch go 1 week without some drama

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no because they pander to westoid scum by design

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>>46317149
I understand these words, but the way they are put together doesn't feel like a real sentence. Is this a bot post?

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>>46317149
She has 500 viewers on average you need to block like 10 xitter accounts to never hear about this "drama" again

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>この番組を最後まで視聴するなら
>チャンネル入会ページへ
it's over...

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cat now inserts Russian in her stream descriptions

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Today

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cyka blyat

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https://twitter.com/ikidumi/status/1767119103045915002
I like this

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https://twitter.com/waia_wai_/status/1767120350507409847
Jiyu

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=796RziC8SdU roco

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5 years since Kataribe’s last tweet

[Anonymous No.]

who

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never heard of her.

[Anonymous No.]

new male only wave on the 15th

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after the investor meeting and during holos big events that will out trend them on xitter?
yikes

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>>46319354
The audience for these guys and the people who watch female idol concerts have very very little overlap. Not sure what you're on about.

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Which one is Kuno

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>>46319354
Is the implication here that they'd pick up the audience they're praying for if there wasn't some random big event going on?

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I listen to that webm every so often

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>>46319310
guy on the right looks like a pedophile i like him

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji needs more 色物 designs.

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https://twitcasting.tv/hisui_kitakoji

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>>46319310
Kunio...

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why do they get a separate twitter account for shilling
are they going all in on these guys

[Anonymous No.]

So when are we getting a western studio?

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https://twitter.com/TakamiyaRion/status/1767402320730665425 important

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i expected porn

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>>46315261
Those and VTA fans are very young, seem like around proseka fanbase age

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Kunio...
not like this...

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>>46319310
Wait, the masochist didn't make it? He was the most popular guy in VTA right?

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>>46320543
What good would that do when they are focusing on SEA for EN shilling

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>>46320774
if you ever manage to find her elsewhere please tell us

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Not sure if I found her. This one has a different voice.

[Anonymous No.]

Did anon jinx someone else they wanted to join Nijisanji

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>>46321189
What?

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https://twitter.com/nanasaki87/status/1767135524824006893
I like this

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>>46320888
You'll know if you found her if when you google their two names together there's a thread about it. The scene isn't as small as it used to be.

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kuno is fucking dead

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>>46321949
He's Kaisei

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>Diggy Diggy
You cannot be serious.

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>>46321976
proof?

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>>46322084
Who else could it be? Everyone else either got terminated or debuted

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>>46322106
>Who else could it be?
ん？

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>>46322132
I'm hundred percent sure he isn't Toru

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>>46322136
retard-kun... there's internal vta members we've never heard of was the point

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>>46322172
They debuted in Idios/Heroes

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>>46322180
proof all the private applicants debuted already? oh wait, they're private, you fucking retard