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4615336 No.4615336 [Reply] [Original]

>12 Mar 2010 We would like to announce the bundle pack of "Edelweiss" which includes both the original "Edelweiss" and its spin off releasing on March 20, "Edelweiss Eiden Fantasia". While individually costing 24.95 Euros for "Edelweiss" and 19.95 Euros for "Edelweiss Eiden Fantasia", totaling 44.90 Euros, this value set will be available for a special price of 34.95 Euros!

>If it's your first time playing Edelweiss, be sure to take advantage of this offer!

>Additionally, MangaGamer.com will conduct a Spring Sale celebrating the Japanese school entry season!!
>The following school related titles would be marked off accordingly from April 1st to April 7th.

>"Da Capo"
>49.95 Euros -> 24.95 Euros

>"SHUFFLE!"
>36.95 Euros -> 24.95 Euros

>"KIRAKIRA"
>36.95 Euros -> 24.95 Euros

>"KIRAKIRA All-Ages Version"
>29.95 Euros -> 14.95 Euros

>> No.4615340

>>4615336
So, their trading partners finally realized that selling VNs at the same price they sell them in japan is suicide ?

>> No.4615342

>"KIRAKIRA All-Ages Version"

I wonder if they've even sold any of these

>> No.4615349

Why are they lowering the prices? They were very reasonable.

>> No.4615351

Get out, MangaGamer devs.

>> No.4615358

>>4615340
Protip : VNs go for $100+ in Japan.

>> No.4615360

>"KIRAKIRA"
>36.95 Euros -> 24.95 Euros
>"KIRAKIRA All-Ages Version"
>29.95 Euros -> 14.95 Euros

So, the shitty sex scenes in this game are worth 10 Euros?

>> No.4615362

>>4615349
They are just trying to boost sales/increase their audience, just like their buy 1 get 1 free coupons passed out last summer.

>> No.4615374

>>4615362
MASTER OF THE OBVIOUS.

Businesses do this shit all the time. Its called marketing.

Like right now in my country pizzahut is handing out discount coupons but you need to spend at least $12 to use them.

>> No.4615388

>>4615378
Oh fuck you.

>> No.4615403

At least they are redoing the translation of the original Edelweiss.

>> No.4615624

>>4615349
Because people weren't buying them, despite the reasonable prices.

I'm waiting to hear what people will complain now that prices have been lowered, and many of the games have better translations.

>> No.4615670
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4615670

Physical copies when?

>> No.4615681

>>4615670
more

>> No.4615696
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4615696

>>4615681
The other pic I have is already posted at >>4611753

>> No.4615699

>>4615670
Original game starring the mascot girl when?
It could be about working in a company that translates eroge. Super meta.

>> No.4615716

>>4615699
She is the translator.

She makes errors because she's clumsy.

She gets raped as punishment.

>> No.4615736

>>4615681
>>>/h/
Fuck off here with your hentai shit.

>> No.4615737

>>4615670
They don't have physical copies?

>> No.4615744

>>4615737
They don't have imaginary ones either.

>> No.4615794

>>4615737
This has been said tons of times.

MG's sales are so small that getting physical copies isn't sensible for them.

>> No.4615820

>>4615737
They will deliver physical copies for 100$ only to the people that are able be fucked in the ass by their 20 nigger employees. Now, when do you want them at your place?

>> No.4615838

>Torrent
>All shite
>00.00 Euros -> 00.00 Euros

>> No.4615846

/jp/ should create it's own VN translation company. How awesome would that be ?

>> No.4615864 [DELETED] 

Oh yes, it will be just like Hatsukoi!

>> No.4615863

I wonder weather I should get Kirakira on iphone.

>> No.4615869

>>4615846
No one would bother showing up for work.

>> No.4615870

>>4615846
Japanese Bird - The translation team?

>> No.4615872

>>4615846
Oh yes, it will be just like Hatsukoi!

>> No.4615873

I will not get a physical copy even if I buy those, right? So no thanks.

>> No.4615882

>>4615873
If you don't buy anything, then MG will go out of business and there will never be physical copies or more translations for them.
But if you buy them now, then MG might start releasing stuff with physical copies when their sales get better.

>> No.4615891

What a bunch of retarded faggots.
You know, the average love ADV can be played with aght, ATLAS and a bit of japanese knowledge.
We don't need them to translate those, we need them to translate more complex titles, Phantom of Inferno and Hourglass of Summer were good examples, despite their shitty video format.
I don't need a "professional" translator for your generic slice of life conversations.

>> No.4615911

>>4615891
Good luck reading Setoguchi's writing with machine translator.

>> No.4615916

I wonder how much money do you need to create a translation company like Mangagaymer ?

>> No.4615922

>>4615916
MG is special case since it's Japanese companies getting together. Othervise, you need money to get license to game, then pay the translator for his work, reverse the engine, do editing and advertise. All in all, it's lots of cash.

>> No.4615930

I'm sure if the majority is going to keep pirating their stuff, they will eventually earn enough money to manufacture physical copies.

>> No.4615938

>>4615882
Sorry bro, that's not how shit works.

I don't buy anime DVDs of horrible image quality from my local distributors in hope that they'll some day start making them less shitty.

>> No.4615945

The convention season will be interesting for MangaGamer this year. Last year they got a lot of attention for announcing Shuffle and Higurashi, and Shuffle seems to have been their best selling game to date. They really need to capitalize on the convention season to get people to play Higurashi which will likely be nearing completion by then, a Shuffle sequel since that was their best selling game to date, and some major announcement (Key would be ideal if talks are successful).

>> No.4615962

This is from their interview at Encubed.

>Q: Is there a particular direction that you want MangaGamer to go in?
>A: Ever since I started working for MangaGamer, I’ve been pushing the need for us to improve the quality of our translations, and changes are finally starting to be made, so I’m quite excited. My hope is that our sales will greatly improve to reflect this as well. As it stands, they’re nowhere near as high as we wish they’d be. If our sales could reach those goals, it would be much easier for us to license some of the games that are out of our reach right now.
>That said, I also wish less people would pirate our games. For a multi-million-dollar console game developer, a few hundred or a thousand copies lost isn’t very significant, but for a small company like ours, every single loss hurts. As it stands, our best seller, Shuffle, has still only sold half the copies we’d like it to, and our next best sellers, Da Capo, Higurashi, and Kira Kira, have sold even less. People have asked us about whether or not we would ever publish hard copy print-runs, but the fact of the matter is that those are impossible if we can’t anticipate sales equating our current goal.

>> No.4616016

>>4615938
Funny you say that.
Yesterday, for the first time ever, I actually bought an anime DVD. 5 Centimeters Per Second to be precise.

What I was met with was some bizarre aspect ratio and noticeably definition picture. Not only were the fan translated versions available in HD (720/1080p) vs the DVD's 526p or whatever the fuck it is (I thought DVD were always 720?), but the subtitles and the translation were each better.

Guess what I wont be doing in the future?

>> No.4616027

>>4616016
Serves you right for buying a shit movie.

>> No.4616033

>>4615938
I dont even know what quality most of my anime DVD:s are, I simply dont care. They're just something I collect.

>> No.4616053

>>4616016
720p on a DVD? What are you smoking?

DVD quality is always shit anyway so I only buy BDs.

>> No.4616054

>>4616027
Yeah, he should've bought Bleach instead.

>> No.4616060

>>4616016
DVDs at their best are 756p, but the usual is 480p, especially with anime. And yeah, a great number of the licensed anime DVDs have really shitty quality even when compared to Japanese TV rips worked by experienced encoders.

>> No.4616063

>>4616060
I meant 576p.

>> No.4616067

>>4616054
wow, such a witty comeback. If he bought it to look at cloud porn on the big screen, fair enough, if he got it for the story, well then he has shit taste.

>> No.4616068

>>4616016

If you want HD, you have to buy HD. I don't know anything about the quality of that release, but its a little unfair to complain your DVDs aren't in 720p.

More on topic, I'm defiantly going to pick up that Edelweiss bundle, especially since they're coming out with a patch. I've got all the sale titles I want already.

>> No.4616080

>>4616067
I don't need wit for a dumbfuck like you.
Go back to G/a/ia.

>> No.4616084

>>4616080
Why so mad?

>> No.4616117

WHERES MY MG MASCOT HENTAI?

>> No.4616119

>>4616117
There's not a lot of it. Hopefully one day there will be official porn of her.

>> No.4616132

>>4616119
;_;

>> No.4616551

not buying shit until they release it with a fucking box.

>> No.4616745

>>4616551

And they can't release it in a box because nobody's buying. And then people complain they're not releasing it in a box. It's a vicious cycle!

>> No.4616853

Need to climb the ladder to higher paychecks before I can buy VNs. I'm still highly educated with loans stuck on doing a job that people without education could do.

Just you hang on MangaGamer. You'll get some products sold when I actually have money.

>> No.4616886

>>4616551
Would you rather have box or translations? Because if you're not buying anything, soon there won't be either of those.

>> No.4616895

MangaGamer should be just glad they decided to let Soul Link go uncensored. If they hadn't listened to complaints and let it stay censored, there'd be even less people buying them (both out of protest and because of thinking, "What's to stop them for censoring other titles?").

Now, if only the same will happen to FUNi and their censoring of a dvd series...

>> No.4616913

>>4616551
Hahahaha, no. You won't buy anything whether its in a box or not.

>> No.4616927

I refuse to even pirate any more mangagamer translations until they hire some decent translators. I'm still scarred after attempting to play Edelweiss. Even after they released a "fixed" version, it was still basically unplayable.

>> No.4616950

>>4616927
They've gotten much better since that. Sure, Kira Kira's English is still bit wacky at points, but with newest releases (Higurashi, Soul Link, Shuffle) only thing they need is better QC to avoid typos and stuff.

>> No.4616988

>>4616927
Edelweiss was two years ago. Try Kira Kira's trial or check some of the screens at VNDB.
http://www.mangagamer.com/r18/Titles/Gallery
http://vndb.org/v28
http://vndb.org/v414
http://vndb.org/v617

>> No.4617114

Their latest Higurashi release had a minimum number of typos, although the question arcs did have a decent number of typos.

>> No.4618441

http://mangagamer.wordpress.com/2010/03/12/your-opinion-for-koihime-musou/
>Anonymous Says:
>March 12, 2010 at 4:48 pm | Reply
>Unrelated, I hate that I need to ask but I would feel better asking after the Soul Link incident. As of this time are there any plans to censor/edit/etc the content in this title?

>kouryuu9 Says:
>March 12, 2010 at 5:21 pm | Reply
>No, there are no plans to censor Koihime Musou. Just remember:
> Rinrin: “I’m a grown-up!”

Damn, MG is on a roll.

>> No.4618450

>>4617114
THIS, the latest higurashi release just needed a bit more of QC to be almost perfect as it can be

>> No.4618463

didnt read the thread when is koihime musou coming out? are these the guys doing it?

>> No.4618473

>>4618463
yes

>> No.4618479

>>4618463
>are these the guys doing it?
Yes.
>when is koihime musou coming out?
The original plan was to release it in April, although it might be pushed back a bit due to additional QC from Kouryuu.
http://novelnews.net/2010/01/20/press-release-mangagamer-adds-cosplay-alien-to-lineup/

>> No.4618481

Guess I could buy Kirakira at that price if I see it in any of the local manga/anime shops.

>> No.4618489

>>4618481
Dear god, it's VN with 3MB script being sold for 25 euros. Just buy the digital copy.

>> No.4618494

Brofist Mangagamer, I'll be buying Curtain Call and Koihime Musou when they come out.

>> No.4618586

Oh, time to start saving up.

>> No.4618674

as long as they use drm i'm not buying their stuff. it's less hassle to play it pirated, since then it's also drm free.

>> No.4618880

>>4618441
>kouryuu9 Says:
>March 12, 2010 at 5:21 pm | Reply
>No, there are no plans to censor Koihime Musou. Just remember:
> Rinrin: “I’m a grown-up!”

That's awesome

>> No.4619101

Sure these are much more reasonable prices, but stil no physical products?
Strings of digital code?
Why should I buy them? Where is the collectors value?
I want things I can put in my shelf together with my collections.
This truly is bullshit.

But too bad that these prices are just a temporary sale, what I really never got was how they could sell digital copies for the same price (or more) than that of physical products, that's really bad, really.

>> No.4619159

>>4619101
>Why should I buy them?
To play the fucking VN?

>Where is the collectors value?
If you're buying it simply for collection, then buy the japanese version.

Same old shit

>> No.4619428

>>4619159
>If you're buying it simply for collection, then buy the japanese version.
I do buy them, but if I can get my hands on a decent localization I prefer to use my money on that instead.
Some could argue that the original always has the superior collectors value, and yes they are probably right, but I would say that the original localization has collectors value in it's own right, sure it might perhaps not be as great.
Non-physical products though? No thanks.

>>Why should I buy them?
>To play the fucking VN?
That is one way to look at it I guess, but with all the things out there I would prefer buying something else that I would also be able to read/play, and still have a physical product.
And if I really want that specific product, then yes I would buy the japanese version

>> No.4619480

>>4619428
Okay, if you actually buy something then you're better than people who come up with new excuse to not buy MG's stuff every time they fix something.

But seriously, if nobody buys anything now, then there will never be physical copies. Actually, there will never be more translations for Navel, Circus or Overdrive and that means they won't do Oretsuba or Dear Drops. And that's terrible.

>> No.4619510

JAST-USA: Hardcopy products
Mangagamer: Digital products yet more expensive

Mangagamer:
>But we are a small company, please buy our expensive, digital, below average translations

>> No.4619524

>>4619510
Oh, are you buying stuff from JAST then?

>> No.4619533

>>4619480
Yes I do buy things, what else should I use my money on? You can only eat so and so much and I don't need clothes.

And yes I do see the problem, but it really hurts to spend my money on "air"(digital code). It feels empty man ;_;

>> No.4619559

>>4619480
I would buy a couple copies to support them if I hadn't already taken thousands of hours out of my life to learn fuckin Japanese.

>> No.4619766

>>4619510
>JAST-USA: Hardcopy products of shit games
>Mangagamer: Digital products of stuff worth playing, yet more expensive

>> No.4619769

>>4619533
I have wondered about this for a while. What does people who whine about pirates think pirates spend their money on?

>> No.4619790

>>4619766
>JAST-USA: Hardcopy products with proper translations, on rare occasions censored
>Mangagamer: Digital products with horrible translations yet more expensive

>> No.4619854

Oh look, it's the same arguments as the last 50 MG threads.
Let's summarize and prune half of the posts:
MG: More expensive, no hard copies, bad to decent translations, better titles
JAST: Less expensive, hard copies, fairly good translations, censorship, mediocre titles

Each company has its goods and bads, nothing you all whine about will change this, and 90% of the posters in this thread will pirate from both companies.

>> No.4619878

>>4619854
If JAST don't censor Nitro+ then Mangagamer won't be able to compete unless they get their translations up several levels.

>> No.4619894

So where are the faggots now that complained about the raise in price for the rest of the Higurashi series, implying that manga-chan wanted to rip off it's customers if they barely stay in business and still could not manage to make a profit because of all those floor-pissing hypocrites?

>> No.4619909

>>4619894
Hey now, you don't have to go and mock our toilet habits.

>> No.4620000

>>4619854
Jast has more games worth buying, but that's mostly just because they've been around longer. MangaGamer will pass them up in a year or two unless Jast starts pumping out those Nitro+ titles (they won't).

>> No.4620036

I liked Mustervating or becoming lily. The bad translation was charming on its own way.

>> No.4620049
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4620049

Fags planning on getting the fandisks yet?

>> No.4620078

>>4620049
Oh god, I wanna fuck every one of them.

>> No.4620081

>>4620049

Heh Dear Drops.

It's too bad Eushully is coming out on the same day and then Custom Redio 4 the next week. And the new Akatsuki no Goei a week before Eushully.

>> No.4620094

Hopefully Higurashi arcs 1-4 was the last MangaGamer title worth playing with a number of issues. Soul Link and Higurashi 5 were at the very least on par with Jast translations.

>> No.4620101

>>4620049
I bet you meant besides Eyebro

>> No.4620124

>>4620078
Even the dude?

>> No.4620130
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4620130

>>4620081

I'm so hyped over this game. Hope MG doesn't take too long to localize it.

>> No.4620136

>>4620124
Even the dude.

>> No.4620157

I would buy a physical copy of my favorites to have them on my shelf.

I wouldn't even play it. I'd buy Saya and leave it wrapped in mint condition (shrink wrap it myself if it isn't wrapped) and just download the copy if I want to read their translation of it.

The translation already made of Saya was pretty damn good anyway, so I don't think its needed.

>> No.4620162

>>4620130
Holy shit, does the girl on the left have sheep wool growing out of her?

>> No.4620199

>>4620130
>>4620049
Fuuuuck, I'm hyped too, but I want a goddamn physical copy Mangagamer you assholes.

>> No.4623187

There is no way that JAST is going to release their Nitro+ titles together with Nendoroids and the so on, like in Japan, is there?

>> No.4625305

>as long as they use drm i'm not buying their stuff. it's less hassle to play it pirated, since then it's also drm free.

While I'm of the same opinion, I can stretch so far that I would buy them and then crack them if the crack exists.

Just feels a little silly to require cracks to enjoy a product designed to avoid cracks.

>> No.4625349

>>4623187
How come stuff like this is so rare in the western market?

>> No.4625543

>>4625349
Because they are afraid to try and those who have, ordered low quality figurines.

>> No.4625557

>>4623187

JAST confirmed they're going to bundle The Song of Saya comic into their preorders.

>> No.4625582

>>4625557
I would burn this shit if I had it in my hands.

>> No.4625599

>>4625557

Why... why would you do that ;_;

>> No.4625616

>>4620049

The hat bro looks like a true bro.

>> No.4625626

>>4625557
For real?
The preorder of demonbane then? And not SnU?
That really isn't that good at all.
And I wasn't all that against a western comic thing, if only it wouldn't have been such a terrible adaption, Saya is no longer like Saya at all both personality wise and by looks, and don't get me started on "Josh"...
There are good comic book artists out there, if oyu doubt me you could visit /co/ and ask them for the "best comic book art" or something, but this comic downright failed Like 99% of all other adaptions but perhaps this one a bit more than most

>> No.4625666

>>4623187
Things like that are out of the question, but it would be pretty awesome if they had some sort of limited edition with the OST and/or artbooks of the games.

>> No.4625676

>>4620162

Yes.

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