/jp/, I've just had the best idea ever! Rewrite Tsukihime so that Akiha goes crazy instead of SHIKI!

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Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:07:05 2010 No.4603237 [Reply] [Original]

/jp/, I've just had the best idea ever!

Rewrite Tsukihime so that Akiha goes crazy instead of SHIKI!

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:08:05 2010 No.4603241 That's a terrible idea and I hate you for wishing insanity on mai waifu.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:08:05 2010 No.4603244 Doesn't she already go crazy in Kohaku's route?

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:10:05 2010 No.4603252

>>4603241
No here me out:
Instead of an Akiha route, there could be a BRO route. It starts when SHIKI asks Shiki if he wants to have a party, and Shiki asks if Arihiko could come.

They all get drunk, and Arihiko stumbles home and gets attacked by Roa-Akiha, and becomes a vampire.

Now, unlike Satsuki, he doesn't go crazy. Instead, he decides that as a vampire, he is now an irresistible ladies man of the night.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:10:05 2010 No.4603257 >>4603252 So Shiki and Arc find Arihiko wandering around town as night hitting on women, and end up dragging him along to help hunt for Roa.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:11:05 2010 No.4603264 God no please no, I've had enough tears on this crap. Male characters can burn in hell (except for my bro Nanaya) but please leave poor Akiha alone. I second >>4603241

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:12:05 2010 No.4603265 >>4603257 THAT'S THE WAY TO THINK! And the climax of the route happens as Shiki, Arihiko, and SHIKI fight off an army of Dead with a knife, a bat, and two bloody stump arms.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:12:05 2010 No.4603267 >>4603264 Your Bro Nanaya would gladly rape your waifu.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:13:05 2010 No.4603274 Question: Kouma Kishima was supposedly staying at the mansion right up until Shiki came back right? Does he still get kicked out, or would SHIKI keep him as a night guard?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:16:05 2010 No.4603290 >>4603274 And then when Arc tries to sneak in that one time, a Kishima-Arc fight ensues?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:17:05 2010 No.4603302 >>4603290 Kishima is on the level of Servants. Him vs a weakened-from-murder Arc isn't a fight, it's a beatdown.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:19:05 2010 No.4603312 >>4603302 > Kishima is on the level of Servants. Hold it, HOLD IT. How the hell does he have so much power? ...Perhaps I should finally get around to Act Cadenza, unless he only shows up in Actress Again.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:19:05 2010 No.4603314 >>4603290 No, Kishima is very superstitious, he thinks Arcueid is a Goddess, he is not going to attack her

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:20:05 2010 No.4603317 >>4603302 To be fair he's on the level of an average servant, and we've yet to actually see the abilities of an average servant.

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:20:05 2010 No.4603318

>>4603312
He's the ultimate form of the Crimson Red Vermillion, he just is. I mean, I wouldn't expect him and Berserker to have an even boxing match (though that would be fucking awesome), but he could probably give Lancer and Rider a run for their money.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:21:05 2010 No.4603325 >>4603314 >>4603314 >No, Kishima is very superstitious, he thinks Arcueid is a Goddess, he is not going to attack her Uh... what? God, I really DO need to play Act Cadenza.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:23:05 2010 No.4603346 >>4603325 Kishima is a very odd character. He's not mindless like Red Demon God would have you think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:25:05 2010 No.4603366 >>4603346 He's easily the most sane character in the cast. Even Shiki and Hisui are nuts compared to him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:26:05 2010 No.4603376 I wonder what normal, everyday SHIKI would be like. Does he go to a fancy academy and hit on all the women, or is he a shut-in with a lot of weird hobbies?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:28:05 2010 No.4603386 >>4603376 Both. Simultaneously. While being more of a bro than Arihiko and himself combined.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:30:05 2010 No.4603406 >>4603376 >>4603386 He has a vast collection of DVDs, manga, and figmas, and upon Makihisa's death made Hisui and Kohaku's uniforms skimpier.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:31:05 2010 No.4603418 >>4603406 >>4603386 >>4603376 This plan is getting better by the moment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:32:05 2010 No.4603423 >>4603274 He keeps him, and Kouma lives in a little police-box type shack down by the gate. He never seems to sleep or eat and is always patrolling.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:35:05 2010 No.4603450 GUYS GUYS I'VE GOT IT: We keep the fight from the manga where Ciel breaks into the mansion, but now it's just a hail of keys and blood spears, and SHIKI is shouting come-ons the whole time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:51:05 2010 No.4603565 I think we've actually written this before. Something about the ending being Shiki, Arihiko, and SHIKI getting horribly drunk and passing out on the front lawn.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:56:05 2010 No.4603599 >>4603423 > and is always patrolling So was he told to ignore Nero or something? Because I'm pretty sure Nero showed up near the mansion at least once, unless the person Shiki saw when he went outside when he heard dogs barking was Roa and not Nero.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 20:59:05 2010 No.4603612 >>4603237 Oh, Kohaku, you so crazy. No, seriously, you're really fucking crazy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:01:05 2010 No.4603616 >>4603599 That was a dream I think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:02:05 2010 No.4603623 >>4603612 Yeah, I play Melty Blood, what is the deal with Kohaku? She seems to know much more than a meido should.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:04:05 2010 No.4603634 >>4603623 Have you played Kohaku's route in Tsukihime?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:06:05 2010 No.4603647 >>4603634 Nah, I just played Arc's route. I mostly play Melty Blood, so I don't have too good of a knowledge of the events of Tsukihime.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:06:05 2010 No.4603652 >>4603623 Kohaku is the mastermind behind a good 40% of the original story.

>>	Necrobrotent Wed Mar 10 21:07:05 2010 No.4603656 Isn't akiha's blood stronger than SHIKI's Wouldn't that make roa almost an afterthought? I mean forced to grow up with his/her conscious inside her would make her able to control it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:07:05 2010 No.4603658 >>4603647 ...Go and finish reading all of Tsukihime. NOW.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:08:05 2010 No.4603664 >>4603656 Shiki's blood is stronger, but she possesses the Tohno family's true inherited ability "Origami."

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:10:05 2010 No.4603676 >>4603656 > I mean forced to grow up with his/her conscious inside her would make her able to control it. I thought Roa's consciousness would only manifest itself once an inversion impulse was triggered.

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:10:05 2010 No.4603684

>>4603647
Well, if you couldn't tell, Kohaku is the mastermind.
In the Near side route, she plays an more indirect role(Still basically causes all the ROA bullshit to happen though), but in the far side routes, she basically causes everything to happen.

She'll most likely be the Bad Guy in Tsukihime 2, if it comes out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:11:05 2010 No.4603689 >>4603676 Roa's consciousness comes out whenever Roa is ready. An Inversion Impulse is unrelated to Roa, and is tied to the ogre blood. Inverting is actually a HINDRANCE to Roa.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:12:05 2010 No.4603698 >>4603684 > She'll most likely be the Bad Guy in Tsukihime 2, if it comes out. What the hell would Kohaku be doing in Europe?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:12:05 2010 No.4603699 >>4603684 >>4603684 She's not really the cause of the trouble in the Near Side routes as much as Roa and Nero are are, and in her own route shit gets more real than anyone could have imagined. She IS behind Akiha and Hisui's routes though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:13:05 2010 No.4603705 File: 38 KB, 266x287, 1267937502433.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4603698 When did you hallucinate that Tsukihime 2 would actually be in Europe?

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:13:05 2010 No.4603713

>>4603689
Well huh, I guess I got confused about that. So even if Roa hadn't chosen SHIKI, the Inversion Impulse would still have occurred, huh? (Which I suppose is effectively what happens in the Far-side routes, as Roa doesn't seem to manifest in SHIKI then. Unless my memory is messing with me again.)

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:14:05 2010 No.4603714 >>4603652 I figured as much. In her story mode in the games the bad guys seem to give her evil props. I may just go back and read Tsukihime, she seems interesting. Thanks!

>>	Necrobrotent Wed Mar 10 21:14:05 2010 No.4603721 >>4603705 It supposedly starts at a European style castle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:16:05 2010 No.4603731 >>4603698 What wouldn't she be doing? Remember, Arc's route is canon for Tsukihime 2, so Kohaku is still going to KILL EVERYONE HORRIBLY

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:16:05 2010 No.4603735 >>4603721 AND SO SHIKI WILL RUN THROUGH THE CASTLE, AND FIND OUT THAT HE CAN ABSORB THE SOULS OF THE MONSTERS THERE. AND THEN HE WAS DRACULA.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:17:05 2010 No.4603741 take the OnScripter and couple of sprites and music, and make it happen. its like a glorified fan-fiction.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:17:05 2010 No.4603745 >>4603735 Shiki as a Dead Apostle would be fucking scary. He'd probably make it into the 27 Ancestors pretty quickly.

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:17:05 2010 No.4603748

>>4603713
>>4603713
Well maybe. It's implied that Roa's existence did increase the effects of the Impulse, but he wasn't the cause.

What happened in the Far Side routes was Kohaku's constant drugging drove SHIKI insane and Roa didn't really have a mind to take over so he just sits in the back of SHIKI's head chattering away.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:18:05 2010 No.4603758 >>4603731 Yeah, Kohaku will be a bit of a threat, but I am also worried about Satsuki. She's most likely even more powerful than before.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:19:05 2010 No.4603761 >>4603745 It'd be hilariously horrifying. The Eyes destroy his body faster than a normal Dead Apostle, so he has to drink even more blood.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:19:05 2010 No.4603763 You know what I want? I want a route where Roa and Nero team up.

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:21:05 2010 No.4603775

>>4603748
See, I was under the impression that SHIKI got drugged and tortured by Kohaku in Near and Far side, just that ROA managed to manifest in Near and he didn't in Far.

I think we can assume that the underlying background to all the routes are more or less the same, and Kohaku drugging and mind-raping SHIKI wouldn't be a condition that would vary, I think.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:21:05 2010 No.4603780 >>4603758 Satsuki probably gets killed by Arcueid or Ciel in the Near side routes without Shiki even knowing about what happened to her.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:21:05 2010 No.4603781 If arc bit him? he'd be fucking terrifying. If he was sacchin's thrall not so much. >>4603761 Also all vampires have high rank mystic eyes why would his be any more devastating?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:22:05 2010 No.4603788 customize your own kagetsu tohya dream end. Tsukihime 2.

>>	Necrobrotent Wed Mar 10 21:22:05 2010 No.4603808 >>4603780 she was originally a near side heroine so her parts not yet written and she will probably play a bigger part in ciels and arcs route than before. 2 new sacchin death scenes ;_;

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:23:05 2010 No.4603809 >>4603775 I think that's correct. It's like how in Fate/stay night, Matou Zouken was assumedly there during the Fate and UBW routes, but he only took an active role in Heavens Feel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:24:05 2010 No.4603821 >>4603780 Nah, Satsuki is popular, she'll show up. And die horribly again, I bet.

>>	Necrobrotent Wed Mar 10 21:24:05 2010 No.4603827 >>4603808 well it is written but not available to the public*

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:24:05 2010 No.4603828

>>4603781
I could actually see that being a Bad End in Tsukihime 2: Shiki finally reaches Arcueid, but she's still stuck/restrained or whatever, and he eventually becomes so crazed that he decides to feed her some of his own blood to try to give her the power to break free.

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:24:05 2010 No.4603829

>>4603763
>>4603763
According to Plus Disk, the Sacchin Route is exactly that. Awesome, can't wait for that Remake never to be translated. Or released, at this rate.

>>4603781
>>4603781
Mystic Eyes of Death Perception are the most powerful eyes in existence, aside of whatever the fuck the Crimson Moon had. They already are killing him.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:25:05 2010 No.4603835 >>4603809 Goddamn that meido. The rapes only make her stronger!

>>	Necrobrotent Wed Mar 10 21:25:05 2010 No.4603837 >>4603828 That would be if he couldn't score the fruit of ennashe and still survived his way out of the damn thing.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:26:05 2010 No.4603867 >>4603821 No, I meant in Tsukihime, the original. >>4603808 is probably right about her getting new death scenes for Arc's and Ciel's routes in the remake, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:26:05 2010 No.4603868 >>4603829 Yeah, yeah, he's dying so long as they can't milk money from the franchise.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:26:27 2010 No.4603851 >>4603821 No, I meant in Tsukihime, the original. >>4603808 is probably right about her getting new death scenes for Arc's and Ciel's routes, though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:27:05 2010 No.4603874 >>4603781 Satsuki is actually absurdly powerful, or rather, is a incredibly rare genius. Most Dead Apostles shuffle around as mindless dead for a century or two before gaining a mind.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:28:05 2010 No.4603889 >>4603867 Yeah, my point is that she would likely show up in the sequel, and if she dies in every route but her own, then she won't be in it. I mean, according to Kohaku's route, Kohaku is a sane, happy person, but we know that won't carry over.

>>	Necrobrotent Wed Mar 10 21:29:05 2010 No.4603900 >>4603829 Gold rank mystic eyes, same ones arc has. But they're killing him because he see's the death of things, it's not like undying would cause the eyes to be any more taxing than any of the other Ancestors special abilities.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:29:05 2010 No.4603912 >>4603874 Yeah, she's an all star.... Among the Dead Apostles. Fuck.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:30:05 2010 No.4603935 >>4603900 So then he'll marry Arcueid, who will turn him into a vampire, and.... wait a minute....

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:31:05 2010 No.4603939 >>4603912 She also has a Reality Marble that's terribly effective against magi.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:33:05 2010 No.4603975 >>4603939 Yeah, but she's a monster. She views humans as cattles. Which, I suppose, compared to her, they ARE, but damn it, bitch needs to be put down.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:33:05 2010 No.4603977 >>4603935 If Arc turns Shiki into a Dead Apostle, not only is he going to be godlike, she might become a Demon Lord.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:33:05 2010 No.4603989 >>4603975 LEARN TO MELTY BLOOD

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:34:05 2010 No.4604005

>>4603975
Think of it this way, though. If you suddenly had to start relying on human beings as your sole food supply, you'd probably dehumanize them somewhat, so to speak, in your own mind as well, as doing otherwise would quite likely drive you insane.

Necrobrotent Wed Mar 10 21:34:05 2010 No.4604010

Satsuki would be dangerous if her circuits are lined up like say ciel's where she's potentially a dangerous magus as well as a dead spostle.

But far as I know she was just lucky.

Though sacchin inheriting the Square crest after roa finally died would be awesome.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:34:05 2010 No.4604011 >>4603989 Hey, hey, hey, I'm just saying, when left to her own devices, she chows down on human beings.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:36:05 2010 No.4604028 >>4604011 Because she's a Dead Apostle. Who need blood to live, and also have an instinctual desire for it (albeit not as strong as that of True Ancestors).

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:36:05 2010 No.4604031 >>4603809 Yeah, but Zouken did not fuck with shit too much and didn't die on the other two routes.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:38:05 2010 No.4604063 >>4603977 Dammit, this bad end sounds fucking awesome. But would probably also mean the destruction of the world as we know it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:38:05 2010 No.4604071 >>4604028 Yes, I'm not calling her evil for it, but I am saying the bitch needs to be put down. Tragic monster she is, but a monster all the same.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:38:05 2010 No.4604076 >>4604044 lol

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:40:05 2010 No.4604094 >>4603874 And she has a MOTHERFUCKING REALITY MARBLE without even having any training or shit

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:40:05 2010 No.4604101

>>4604010
The thing is, Satsuki's Reality Marble would prevent her from using mana-based magic just as much as it prevents magi in her vicinity from using such magic, and since the mana she drains from the environment doesn't get absorbed by her but just disappears somewhere, she doesn't get any benefit from that, either. She's probably better off sticking to other methods of combat.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:41:05 2010 No.4604115 >>4604071 I'm betting you didn't like Sakura's route in Fate/stay night.

>>	Necrobrotent Wed Mar 10 21:41:05 2010 No.4604116 >>4604028 She gets medical blood from akiha.in melty blood and only needs a small amount to keep all her power according to her second good end

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:42:05 2010 No.4604130 >>4604101 Here's the thing. She's a freaking vampire, she cancels out spells, she can just rip, and I do mean rip, the mage apart.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:42:05 2010 No.4604133 >>4604116 > second good end Wait, you mean you can get a different good end if you replay arcade mode with the same character?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:43:05 2010 No.4604144 >>4604116 >Only a small amount If this is true.... then holy fuck, Satsuki is powerful.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:43:05 2010 No.4604146 >>4604130 Well yeah. Basic physical combat is always a good way to go if you're strong enough, which she is.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:43:05 2010 No.4604149 >>4604101 Is Sacchin a magus? I don't think she would use mana-based magic.

Necrobrotent Wed Mar 10 21:43:05 2010 No.4604156

>>4604101
reality marbles are last ditch efforts.

Not just something you use as a main way of fighting.

Emiya Shirou is dumb in that way.

As a magus she could summon magical creatures to feed on, with blood more potent than humans to begin with and if she's got good circuits she could be a powerful one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:45:05 2010 No.4604173 >>4604156 But Nero uses his constantly, albeit contained within his own body so with not nearly as much energy drain as it would be if he somehow manifested it externally.

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:46:05 2010 No.4604181

>>4604149
Sacchin is an up and coming sensation, one of the cool new hip Dead Apostles.
She's very unique, in that she did in a few minutes what usually takes hundreds of years, and that she has a reality marble.

She has the potential to be a huge threat.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:46:05 2010 No.4604183 >>4604156 Considering we've seen all of two RM so far, with one being combat only and one being extremely situational, I wouldn't call it a last ditch effort.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:47:36 2010 No.4604193 >>4604144 >>4604144 Actually anyone can get by on a small amount, most just don't bother because Dead Apostles are 95% dickheads. Then there's guys li

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:48:05 2010 No.4604201 >>4604144 >>4604144 Actually anyone can get by on a small amount, most just don't bother because Dead Apostles are 95% dickheads. Then there's guys like Ciel's curry chef vampire friend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:48:05 2010 No.4604208 >>4604133 I think that he meant Sacchin's route on Tsukihime good end or something like that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:49:05 2010 No.4604236 >>4604183 We know of several more, though. http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Reality_Marble Also, spam's gone, it seems.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:52:05 2010 No.4604286 >>4604201 >Ciel's curry chef vampire friend WHAT

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:52:05 2010 No.4604298 >>4604275 But yeah, it seems the majority of the 27 Ancestors have Reality Marbles of some sort, and that at least a few of them probably use them fairly often (and in some cases, have them constantly active).

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:58:05 2010 No.4604345 >>4604298 So that means Satsuki is basically at Ancestor Power-level now?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 21:59:05 2010 No.4604349 >>4604183 You mean two between UBW, Night of Wallachia, Lair of the Beast King, Ionioi Hetaroi (Fate/Zero Gilgamesh, it's a noble phantasm, not sure if a reality marble at all).

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Wed Mar 10 21:59:05 2010 No.4604355 >>4604345 No, it doesn't. She's just a pretty good Dead Apostle. Someone like Nero would devour her quite readily.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:01:05 2010 No.4604368 >>4604355 Ah, I see. Still, she's got potential, right? Although, in a world where people with high-power levels are played by a freaking maid, I don't think potential matters much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:02:05 2010 No.4604371 >>4604286 Nasu made an official doujin that explained what Ciel loved curry.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:02:05 2010 No.4604374 >>4604349 see >>4604275

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:03:05 2010 No.4604379 >>4604236 Most of those aren't actually seen at all. See >>4604345

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:04:05 2010 No.4604395 >>4604368 If it helps, she's more of a doll than a maid.

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:08:05 2010 No.4604427

>>4604368
Honestly, compared to the servants or Arc, she's really weak even with that potential. None of the Ancestors or Apostles can even compare to basic servants, they would get ripped apart. Apostles may spell trouble for humans like Shiki and Akiha, but they're weak against anything supernatural. Even Ciel would never win against a servant, she could possibly escape by playing defensively.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:09:05 2010 No.4604441 >>4604427 Servants and Arcueid are kind of exceptions, though, considering the former are legendary heroes and the latter receives her power from the planet itself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:12:05 2010 No.4604464 >>4604441 Yeah. Kouma and Aoko could probably put up a good fight. However, they're beyond any kind of modern magus so I guess they're another exception.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:12:05 2010 No.4604467 >>4604427 The Ancestors (with some exceptions) can all fight Servants. Normal vampires can't though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:13:05 2010 No.4604473 >>4604464 Kouma can fight average servants, Aoko can beat ones without Magic resistance I think, as long as she uses Blue. Caster I think Nasu said could beat her because of Divine Words.

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:16:05 2010 No.4604500

>>4604473
Caster is seriously overrated. Nasu said that she could probably beat almost every servant if she got serious and used her magic to full potential.
>>4604467
Oops, I misread what Nasu said. However, I still don't think they could win. Saber moves at Mach something, so it would be almost impossible to hit her.
Sometimes it's easy to forget how powerful the servants are because they only fight other, more powerful servants instead of humans/creatures.

White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Wed Mar 10 22:18:05 2010 No.4604519

>>4604427
Nero compares well. You either have to destroy the sum of his lives with something like Excalibur, or starve him to death.

Lancer, Fake Assassin, and Berserker wouldn't even be able to kill him, although I imagine Berserker would end it with a victory, since nothing Nero has is likely to beat his NP.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:19:05 2010 No.4604522 >>4604500 >>4604500 Yes, but ones like Altorouge and Ortensse could bat servants around.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:21:05 2010 No.4604548 >>4604519 Lancer could possibly beat him if he timed Death Flight Gae Blog correctly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:22:05 2010 No.4604554 >>4604519 Sion compares well.

Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:23:05 2010 No.4604561

>>4604500
Damn, I can't type properly today. I meant underrated. Like Gil, she doesn't ever really show off her true powers because of silly deaths.
>>4604522
I suppose those ones could. Now I'm just wondering about Roa's original power considering even he beat Altrouge. He'd be definitely on par with servants.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:23:05 2010 No.4604565 >>4604554 She explicitly does not. She's neither fast enough nor strong enough, even to exploit their weaknesses as heroes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:26:05 2010 No.4604593 >>4604561 >>4604561 That's not Roa's original power. That's him after stealing Arc's powers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:27:05 2010 No.4604605 >>4604593 Well still, he did hold that power at one time. Even the other Apostles didn't want to have anything to do with him after that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:30:05 2010 No.4604624 >>4604593 Roa could spam EX spells, he is fucking insane

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:31:05 2010 No.4604633 What exactly are Square and EX spells and all that? I don't remember much about the actual magic system.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:31:05 2010 No.4604636 File: 39 KB, 491x271, Karii du Marche.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Then there's guys like Ciel's curry chef vampire friend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:32:05 2010 No.4604643 >>4604636 BEST VAMPIRE EVER

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:32:05 2010 No.4604645 >>4604605 Well, to be fair if there existed someone so FABULOUS that you and all the other DA's combined couldn't even approach 1% of his FABULOUSNESS would you want anything to do with him?

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:37:05 2010 No.4604677 File: 364 KB, 1000x700, 626576.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4604645 I want a fab friend. ;_; Also, Roa's real form wasn't that fabulous, he just looked like a magician with glasses and a ponytail. SHIKI Roa was a complete fruit though.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 22:46:05 2010 No.4604733 >>4604633 Roa has at least A spells, Square will be squaring the rank A spells which have a value of 50. This will make his beam spam 2500 which is EX

>>	White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ Wed Mar 10 23:17:05 2010 No.4604960 >>4604548 Maximum targets is 50 people. Nero is composed of 666 individual lifeforms. Can't kill him with it. You have to kill every life form all at once to prevent there being a chaos for the "dead" familiars to return to.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 23:19:05 2010 No.4604993 >>4604960 It's not clear whether Maximum target is the absolute number of beings it could affect or the area is covers such as the space 50 people take up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 23:20:05 2010 No.4605005 >>4604960 Maximum targets is 50 Sions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Mar 10 23:32:05 2010 No.4605121 >>4604733 Oh god, that was so fucking stupid.

>>	Necrobrotent Wed Mar 10 23:47:05 2010 No.4605280 >>4604133 I meant the next game, her AC end says she only needs a small amount of blood and has conquered the sun.,

>>	Necrobrotent Thu Mar 11 00:00:05 2010 No.4605378 >>4605280 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyEmvtkIql4 God I love sacchin but her voice is so fucking annoying.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 11 00:09:05 2010 No.4605441 >>4603237 I have an even better idea! Let's have Toshiki Inoue write Tsukihime so Shiki will become a revenge-obsessed bastard and Aruceid is a manipulative bitch.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 11 00:11:05 2010 No.4605450 >>4605441 >implying arcieud isn't a manipulative bitch who doesn't use her purity as a cover to do whatever the fuck she wants.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 11 07:37:05 2010 No.4607625 >>4604522 Since Merem Solomon could kill Altrouge (not so strong) AND her three dead apostle guards (including primate murder), although going down with them, and was also created by the Crinson Moon, I guess that he could kill a few servants.

Anonymous Thu Mar 11 07:42:05 2010 No.4607645

>>4604500
You also overestimate Servants too much.
Remember, even if it was an Ambush, cost her the ammunition she prepped for like etc, RIN shaved of a life from motherfucking Berserker.
Yes, he has twelve. But still, she killed Hercules once.
The 'Masters cannot defeat Servants' is not absolute, but its a p[roper guideline 'Why fuck with something that much stronger, let YOUR servant deal with it'.
Servants are not impossible to beat, and while superior to a common magus are NOT the strongest forces to ever appear.
Not to mention each Servant varies in strength and abilities quite a bit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Mar 11 11:00:05 2010 No.4608517 >>4607625 Remember that's Merem's OWN estimation, and I'm pretty sure he meant he could only beat ONE of her bodyguards like that. The power balance among the apostles is really strange.

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