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>> No.4515220

>>4515213
>Implying Kouma would do something as rude as betrayal.

>> No.4515222

Fa/tg/uy here:
To be honest, I've run worse parties.

>> No.4515225

>>4515220
Is their really any backstory to kouma? AFAIK, he was just an assassin sent to kill the Nanaya clan.

>> No.4515238

>>4515225
>Hasn't read Red Demon God
Ohoho

>> No.4515240

That's a pretty fucking HAX team, how would you go about killing them?

>> No.4515242

>>4515240
Run them through Tomb of Horrors.

>> No.4515244

>>4515225

As best I can remember he spent most of his time loafing around the Tohno mansion until Shiki came back and Akiha kicked him out. Now he lives in the mountains.

>> No.4515245

>>4515240
Throw Akiha and Len, they will prolly kill each other somehow.

>> No.4515246
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>> No.4515249

I'd watch an anime based on this.

>> No.4515250

>>4515242

Orb of Annihilation can beat servants.

Discuss.

>> No.4515256

>>4515244
Wait, I thought after finding Shiki in Red Demon God, he just trots straight off into the woods and disappears.

>> No.4515259

>>4515242
>>4515249
>>4515213
This team versus Tomb of Horrors

As told by Ufotable.

>> No.4515264

>>4515256

He's one of the people mentioned as living in the mansion in a conversation in Tsukihime, and I think the mountains stuff comes from melty blood

>> No.4515266

>>4515213
Switch SHIKI with Kishima Kouma, and you've got a reliable list.

>> No.4515268

In terms of how strong they are, isn't Nero at the top? I remember in Melty Blood Zepia mentions that Nero's body surpassed his.

>> No.4515274

>>4515266
I suppose in Kouma's case it's more that Nanaya would betray Kouma than the other way around.

>> No.4515275

>>4515268

Please don't turn this into a power level argument, the thread is getting interesting.

>> No.4515282

>>4515268
>>4515275
In terms of RAW POWER ONLY, Nero is probably at the top. Otherwise it's all just compatibility and circumstance, as with all other Nasuverse fights.

>> No.4515286

>>4515274
Nanaya wouldn't "betray" Kouma so much as choose to have a fight to the death right then for the fun of it.

>>4515268
Nero was far more powerful as just a Dead Apostle.

>> No.4515287

>>4515259
FFFFFFFFFFUND IT

>> No.4515295

Nero 12963HP
Warakia 11612HP

>> No.4515302

>>4515295
...Huh.

>> No.4515303

WLen is anything but Chaotic

>> No.4515304
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>> No.4515315

>>4515295

Nero doesn't have HP. Rather, his core has 5 HP, that is the only way to kill him. You can't kill him through just whacking and smacking, the beasts will just regenerate.

>> No.4515316

>>4515303
>General team alignment

Nero would be Neutral, as he both lives by vampiric law, but largely acts in heretical ways even to them. Wallachia would be either chaotic or lawful, depending on how you interpret his actions, as he always conforms to how people believe he will act and then must act in that way. SHIKI would be chaotic to a fucking fault. Kishima Kouma is lawful, in sort of a "quiet killer's zen" kind of way.

>> No.4515325
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An updated version. They ride Nero's monsters.

>> No.4515326

>>4515325
But what would Shiki be doing at the bottom of the Tomb of Horrors?

>> No.4515332

>>4515316
How does one act heretical by VAMPIRE standards exactly? I mean, I guess you could say "by violating Ortense or Altorouge's laws" but we don't really know what those laws are do we?

>> No.4515338

>>4515303
Resurrecting dead vampires and giving form to nightmares with the ultimate goal of fucking a guy sounds pretty chaotic to me.

>> No.4515342

Fuck the rest of the party, I want my WLen rolesexing.

>> No.4515346

>>4515332
Remember that the overarching law of basically every faction (Demon Hunters, Church, Magi Association, Vampires, whatever) in the Nasuverse is "secrecy."

>> No.4515350

>>4515326
A shiny fruit knife to use for slicing?

>> No.4515351

Sanger Zonvolt, Kamen Rider Decade, Masamune, Inspector Javert, Batman.

Fuck yes best party.

>> No.4515353

>>4515326
Neko Arc stole something, and he chased after her. He didn't spring any traps or hit any encounters due to his high as shit Luck.

>> No.4515357

>>4515342

>rolesexing

Mollusks.

>> No.4515359

>>4515357
Oh please, this would be a tabletop session.

It would be MUCH worse than that.

>> No.4515360

>>4515357
No no, this is about boiling lances.

>> No.4515365

>>4515332
Nero doesn't act like a normal vampire because of how he acts and what he is. Nero is more like an amorphous chimera than a vampire, as he achieved his transformation through the power of alchemy and the merging of multiple beings into a chaotic form. Nero doesn't drink blood so much as he eats everything that moves. He doesn't take part in the "castle" game, as far as I know, and it's probably impossible for Nero to make a successor, thus eliminating the "armies of the dead at his service."

He abides by the hierarchy of the ancestors, and pays lip service to their rules and orders, but he largely acts for his own interests. Hence, neutral.

>>4515338
Wallachia takes in the rumors, fears, and nightmares of the populace, and then incarnates according to the rules they create. He will always behave according to those rules, with the one dictate that his actions will always end in murder and bloodlust. He can't *not* be what others desire him to be. If you believe he's going to become a toad out of fear of toads, he'll become a vampiric toad that sucks you dry.

>> No.4515369

>>4515365
He was talking about White Len, not Wallachia.

Personally, I think she's more Neutral Evil than Chaotic, but I'm no fa/tg/uy so don't hold me to that.

>> No.4515371

>>4515369
Oh, now I see. I misread. Thank you!

>> No.4515372

Where is my Tsukihime JRPG Nasu? You greenlit a FSN one!

>> No.4515375

>>4515372
Fuck a video game, I want a Nasuverse tabletop setting. Imagine the trolling.

>> No.4515376

>>4515365
Mostly correct, except Nero named a successor even though he didn't personally turn him.

>> No.4515377

>>4515372
People and developers need to express interest first.

>> No.4515379

>>4515376
IIRC, a faggot was chosen by the 'leaders', not Nero.

>> No.4515381 [DELETED] 

>>4515376
>him
I thought Nero's successor was that girl from the fanfic in KT?

>> No.4515385

>>4515379
It was a clan of vampires, with the leader named the head. Enhance and Clock Tower were going to destroy them.

Shikiller got there first.

>> No.4515389

>>4515372
>>4515375
I'd just be happy for an all inclusive Type Moon fighting game.

Archer vs Ado-Edem.

>> No.4515392

>>4515376
As was pointed out, someone was chosen by the others to fill the spot.

>> No.4515394

>>4515379
If I remember Nero named him his successor even before he died.

>> No.4515395

>>4515385
Enhance seems an interesting idea that got shafted.
Newbie vampire, No special abilities outside of standard vampire physical buffs, and two super weapons against the greater monstrosities that have been lurking for centuries.

>> No.4515398

>>4515394
The only successor Nero named was the girl from Dawn, and that's not canon.

>> No.4515401

>>4515395
He's also Dante, so that's kind of neat.

>> No.4515403

>>4515395
I do wonder how Enhance got NAMED an Ancestor. Does he actually have any noteworthy kills or is "has two awesome swords" really all he's got going for him?

>> No.4515406

>>4515398
He didn't "name" her, so much as Nero was dead and she was still in existence in his body, and then took over for a bit before dying. She couldn't control the chaos, anyway, and it was breaking down and becoming true chaos.

>> No.4515408

>>4515395
I like his weapon background.

Enhance: MY DEMONIC SWORD BURNS MY HUMAN ARM, MY HOLY GUN BURNS MY VAMPIRE ARM, I'M WORTHLESS IN BATTLE WHATEVER WILL I DO
Blacksmith dude: Switch your hands?
Enhance: Oh

>> No.4515410

>>4515408
Yeah... why does he do that exactly?

>> No.4515411

>>4515408
I think the backlash affects his whole body regardless.
But yeah, it's funny.

>> No.4515420

I want to know more about this vampire civil war business. And more about Altorouge for that matter: how does being half True Ancestor and half Dead Apostle work, and why was she able to turn Zepia into Wallachia?

>> No.4515428

>>4515420
Being daughter of the Crimson Moon>Any level of logic

>> No.4515449

>>4515375
Battles in tabletop games take long enough as it is. I don't want my players arguing over Nasu rules.

>> No.4515452

>>4515420
How the mix works, unknown.
As for Zepia, he prolly figured out the magical whatchamalit and equations, and she called the Crimson Moon to power it up.

>> No.4515453

>>4515410
Probably for dramatic effect, I can see him becoming an Arihiko-like occasional gag character to Shiki's straight man routine in the hypothetical Tsukihime 2.

>> No.4515459

>>4515449
If they are actually set, then you just roll dice and is over.
The problem is establishing a full proper ruleset.

>> No.4515461

>>4515452
But if that's the case, why was Wallachia surprised by Arcrueid, a more pure copy of the Crimson Moon, being able to call it forth?

>> No.4515465

>>4515449
>>4515459
>>4515375
I'd like this, more for the sheer amount of flavor text it would probably provide than anything else.

>> No.4515478

>>4515461
For starters, the fact that she knew she had to call it.
I don't think it's the most common tidbit around 'Hey guys, Zepia got Crimson Mooned and is now a torrent of information'.
Secondly, it meant he was fucked over.

>> No.4515483

>>4515478
I guess that makes sense.

>> No.4515490

>>4515478
>Zepia got Crimson Mooned

I read that in a "raped by the moon" way.

So in addition to bleeding from the eyes and mouth, he now drips from the anus as well. Lovely.

>> No.4515493

>>4515490
He bleeds from every orifice.
His penis lets out mixed drops of urine, blood and semen.

>> No.4515502

>>4515478
Well his statement in story mode is something along the lines of "IMPOSSIBLE! Calling the Crimson Moon from the future is on the order of sorcery, IT CANNOT BE TRUE!"

>> No.4515505

>>4515493
Zepia confirmed for the initial draft of Karin.

>> No.4515514

>>4515502
Perhaps when the pact with Altrouge was made, it was the Natural Crimson Moon?
Perhaps he was just Dead Apostled by her.
We do not know HOW exactly it happened, we only know she is responsible in helping TATARI emerge.

>> No.4515535

Why must all Nasu interviews be flooded with powerlevel questions instead of legitimate ones like "why the shit does Enhance use his weapons in a way that burns him?"

>> No.4515545

>>4515535
Even in Japan, Nasu fans are powerlevelfags.

>> No.4515546

>>4515535
The answer would be 'He is still hurt no matter which hand uses, so at least he adds a dramatic effect'

>> No.4515547

>>4515535
Because Nasu fans (including us) are idiots.

>> No.4515566

Damn it Takeuchi, draw more DAA.

>> No.4515578

>>4515566
Indeed, if he has time to design ORT and Crow Man, he should draw the eternally drunk lady and Altorouge.

>> No.4515585

>>4515578
Especially Altrouge, being Arc's sister and all.

That seems rather important to the stories canon, assuming Tsukihime continues past the remake, like F/SN and it's ridiculous dozens of spinoffs.

>> No.4515590

>>4515578
>eternally drunk lady
lolwut

>> No.4515597

>>4515590
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Twenty_Seven_Dead_Apostle_Ancestors
Have fun.

>> No.4515598

>>4515578
I like my own mental images of the DAAs, actually.

>Sumire
Sea Suika
>Altrouge
Loli Arcueid
>Al Nahat
Speedy Gonzales
>Rita Rosayen
Aaaaah! After ten thousand years I'm finally free! Time to kill Arcueid!

>> No.4515623

>>4515597
>Oretenrosse
>Is a Magus from the Age of the Gods
>Dead Apostle
>FROM THE AGE OF THE GODS
Jesus fucking christ.

>> No.4515632

>>4515597
I'd like to see more of Van Fem, because he just sounds awesome.

>> No.4515636 [DELETED] 

>>4515623
Wouldn't that put him on Medea's level?

>> No.4515642

>>4515623
It's also worth noting that he can give Nero orders. A guy who can't be destroyed by anything short of a force that can destroy whole continents bows to Ortensse.

>> No.4515661

>>4515566
I'd be happy if he just drew Crimson Moon. I don't care about anyone else, but at least draw the guy THAT BASICALLY CREATED ALL THE CONFLICT IN THE STORY.

>> No.4515670

>>4515661
We puny humans are not good enough to illustrate nor perceive the glory of the Crimson Moon.

>> No.4515674

>>4515670
>Male Arcrueid
>Cape
>Suit
>Top Hat
I'm magical.

>> No.4515681

>>4515674
There were no top hats back then.

>> No.4515687

27 Dead Apostles vs 27 Lord Inquisitors of the Ordo Hereticus

Who would win?

>> No.4515697

>>4515687
ORT and Crimson Moon>Anything

>> No.4515711

>>4515687
Some DAAs are unconfirmed or dead with no replacements.
Also, 40k mechanics do not mix well.

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>Zepia
>Comic relief

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>>4516000
Just look at this face.

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>>4516006
NO U

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>>4516000
>>4516006
>>4516022

>> No.4516045

>>4516028
This is now my favorite thing ever.

>> No.4517466

>>4515259
>>4515259
FUCK YES, WOULD BUY DVDS

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