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A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://nyaa.si/view/1611543
Mahoutsukai no Yoru PC:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177wSYqWfOpH_4AsGzY27sZOs8y84GWa9
PC English Patch (Partial Translation):
https://mega.nz/folder/dBkXjbaa#e3rJvGTb9PT7TFVwjk-2ww
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru complementary short story):
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8887-An-Adventure-of-First-Love-%28Mahoutsukai-no-Yoru-Short-Story%29-Translation

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (Japanese):
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3874450
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Patch:
https://tsukihimates.com

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S
Melty Blood - Type Lumina:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1372280/MELTY_BLOOD_TYPE_LUMINA/
Melty Blood - Type Lumina Community Translation Patch:
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9302-Melty-Blood-Type-Lumina-Community-Translation-Patch

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3860991
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9101-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-Ultimate-Edition-2022
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7705-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Voice-Patch
Fate/Spinoffs:
https://pastebin.com/Vgy14rSK

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7899136/1/Notes-The-Legend-of-the-Gun-God
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y68oxcrmg8i6k/Sutamamo
Tsuki no Sango:
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs
Clock Tower 2015:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UnWI7x2XpL8PFE9OuGDjY8qJ0nW7WsVm/view?usp=sharing

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Tsukihime Tokuhon:
https://exhentai.org/g/82076/173f6680ef

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>> No.45075422

red garden doko?

>> No.45075448

>>45075422
2028

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just as good as it was years ago, if not better. i love akiha, bros...

>> No.45076303

What will come out first, RG or ER? I think it might be RG>ER>More Remake(Arc True etc).

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>> No.45076697

>>45076426
Reminds me of a ps1 platformer I used to play as a kid. What the fuck was it called.

>> No.45076707

Using the Command Seal to have sex with Saber!

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>>45076426
>>45076697
Found it.

>> No.45076800

>>45076707
Calm down, Rin

>> No.45077001

>>45076707
caster pls

>> No.45077239

everyone wants a piece of baeber

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Dead Apostle Rin.

>> No.45077787

>>45077748
Best Rin.

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Perhaps it is his 'relatability,' but Waver is such a depressing (yet earnest) character in a bittersweet way. I wish I could articulate how much I want to see him reunite with Iskandar; he has had a hard life.

(No I do not care about F/GO.)

>> No.45078114

>>45077996
Is he getting laid in Tsuki since he didn't turn gay for the man?

>> No.45078220

>>45076184
What about kohaku

>> No.45078542

>>45078114
Knowing Waver he still probably met Iskandar...somehow.

>> No.45078568

Archer is honest to god the biggest fucking faggot, Jesus.

>> No.45078591

>>45078568
I'm a bigger faggot for him.

>> No.45078681

>>45076303
I would bet that Red Garden comes first too

>> No.45078716

>>45078591
Why are you attracted to a homosexual?

>> No.45078780

>>45078716
>he doesn’t want to taste every crevice on redman’s naked body tied to a bed

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>> No.45079044

Sorry, dumb anon here that couldn't get it. Can anyone explicitly tell me the reason why Vlov was in Japan?

>> No.45079065

>>45079044
He followed Arc.

>> No.45079089

Archer is the kind of guy who waxes their legs and body like a woman

>> No.45079141

>>45079065
Just that? I thought there was more. Arc herself said that she thought there was more to it than just that, and when Ciel-sensei said that Ciel route was going to shed light into the reason for Vlov's actions, I thought there was something more.

>> No.45079204

>>45079089
Nooooooo :(

>> No.45079218

>>45079089
And he's all the more manly for it.

>> No.45079234

>>45079141
Roa told him to kill his kind liege Offenbaum and then Arcueid, implying that this would fix his temperature problem or something. Obviously, he taught him wrong, as a joke.
Vlov understands that he's been had, but he's still going to kill Arc just in case it works, and then he will track down Roa and kill him too.

>> No.45079240

>>45079218
Waxing your armpits is manly? What the fuck.

>> No.45079255

>>45079234
Ohhh, thanks, that makes more sense. Was this all in the novel and I just missed it or was it in some extra material? (And if so, where can I find it, alongside info on most current DAAs)

>> No.45079303

>>45079255
Now that I think about it, I don't remember where I got this myself from, actually. So this might really just be bullshit, but it is bullshit I believe in.
I clearly recall how Vlov was angry at the "serpent" for tricking him back in the VN, and that there was a throwaway line where Roa gave him some advice back during the French incident.
Perhaps the explanation I gave was just speculation, but it fits these two pieces of information.

>> No.45079414

>>45079303
A lot of that stuff is in MBTL.

>> No.45079971

>>45078220
what about her

>> No.45080012

>>45079971
Read it for that scene

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>>45079971
>>45080012

>> No.45080435

>>45078220
dumb whore

>> No.45080573

>>45080409
bad end

>> No.45080599

>>45080573
I wish there was an end where I could sympathize and take her side instead

>> No.45081042

Will Akiha be stronger than Ciel?

>> No.45081062

>>45081042
the remake+MBTL already give you that answer

>> No.45081194

>akiha suggests going back to the mansion because she wants to do it in a real bed
>cock blocked by SHIKI
and this nigga has the gall to say shiki is always in the way

>> No.45081244

>>45081042
Prepared Ciel > Akiha > unprepared Ciel.

>> No.45081258

Kerry with prep > Ciel

>> No.45081328

>>45081258
no

>> No.45081396

Can Archer beat Batman?

>> No.45081490

>>45080599
Trust the RG plan

>> No.45081529

>>45081042
Akiha supposedly already defeated her in a bad ending, causing her to suffer a fate worse than death. Neco-Arc gives the impression that Akiha no diffed Ciel too. Akiha got some ridiculous hype in the remake, with Arach claiming she's a monster born once every, I think millennium?

>> No.45081589

>>45081529
She almost certainly surprise-attacked Ciel while in a cramped space.

>> No.45081751

>>45081529
>no diffed
Please go back to swarthoid Twitter.

>> No.45081776

>>45081529
10,000 years. It's basically saying she's one of a kind. Arach(Potentially a DAA) also indicates she'd be killed by her and Ushi gets no-diffed. Roa thinks the same so ambushes her while Shiki. Had Roa possessed her the city would be toast.

>> No.45081788

Arach vs my dick is the only fight I'm looking forward to

>> No.45081820

>>45081589
Dunno? The small, cramped terrain should work as a double-edged sword for Akiha against someone fast, mobile and fairly skilled. Akiha's profile also mentions that she's weak against 零距離射撃. so I don't think Ciel was out of her depth, since she's pretty versatile and perfectly able to adapt her fighting style whatever the terrain and opponents. Based on Neco-Arc's statement and the hype so far, I'm more inclined to believe that she really managed to kick Ciel's ass with little, if any, difficulty.

>> No.45081972

>>45081529
>Akiha supposedly already defeated her in a bad ending, causing her to suffer a fate worse than death
In the remake? If so which one? I might’ve missed it.

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>>45081972
This is the bad ending that takes place during Day 10 of Ciel's route, I think it was the third one? It's not actually stated in this particular ending what happened or if it was even Akiha, but it was clarified later in MBTL that the story about Akiha kicking Ciel's ass was true.

>> No.45082679

>>45082245
Oh yeah, the one where Noel tortures Shiki in the Tea Ceremony room. Forgot that, but Ciel-sensei herself does say she would get a fate worse than death; which all corroborates with my vague memory of near awakening Roa Shiki thinking over how there was someone on the mansion he could count on being able to kill him, or something like that. Akiha just got that much of a buff, I guess.
(In turn, this makes that scenario where Shiki just kills everyone in the mansion even more commendable. Sure, sneak attacks are one hell of a drug, but to pull it off so perfectly…)

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Red Garden leak.

>> No.45083169

>>45081589
That's the Tsukihime special. Off guard, no prep and unequipped is pretty much the fastest way to lose any fight, no matter who you are

>> No.45083202

>akiha was powered up for the remake like ciel
damn, and shiki already said her sucking his blood in that shitty normal ending is a hassle. she's gonna give him the mega succ now.

>> No.45083214

We have passed from Ciel being able to fight only on the defensive against mid servant to her being able to fight and win against the top tier ones and she would be defeated easily by Akiha
Powerlevels sure have changed

>> No.45083226

>>45082703
cool manga page I wonder how the fight concludes

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Akiha gets her powers buffed substantially and yet she still is physically a washboard! Ha!

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>> No.45083389

>>45083265
The 73 gang.

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Excellent

>> No.45083551

>>45083426
what a fucking deviant

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>> No.45085005

>>45083551
Incest is literally coded into him

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>>45083551
He needs correction

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>> No.45086721

>>45083303
Imouto ass cheeks....

>> No.45087678

who has that arc dissection diagram?

>> No.45088078

Do true ancestors poop?

>> No.45088439

>>45088078
>>45088078
If Shiki asks her to.

>> No.45089052

>>45083265
Yes, I am a firm believer of the small breast group.

>> No.45090040

Is there a way to play fate/extra at 60 fps? The toggle in ppsspp settings does nothing.

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>> No.45090368

>>45090223
Source?

>> No.45090372

>>45090368
https://twitter.com/rnqntm/status/1718663483292807659?t=A4Vj1X1V6aEsyYM0Ll2A2A&s=19

>> No.45090538

imagine something like the roses eye thing but it feels good instead of painful and you stay there forever and ever
haha

>> No.45090768

>>45090538
She can control it so she does that to Shiki, sometimes.

>> No.45090773

>>45090538
I need Rita, preferably in Melty.

>> No.45090980

Kotomine is an underrated and underused character that should've been explored more. The fact that he doesn't survive the 5th war and doesn't even appear in HA is criminal.

>> No.45091211

>>45090980
He is explored indirectly in HA and he has a scene with Bazett.

>> No.45091262

>>45090980
I don't understand this attitude. He is a fully fleshed character in F/SN. You don't need more (yes I'm including F/Z).

>> No.45091521

>>45090980
It's a shame we didn't got silly scenes with Kirei in F/HA, but Nasu gave us Caren in exhange so that's cool.
Also this >>45091211
Bazett thinking she could fix Kirei is both hilarious and sad.

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Reminder that Arc's origin is so old it traces all the way back to the beginning of the universe.

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>>45092313
so originally the gimmick with arc was as long as the battlefield is earth, she technically would have the advantage since she scales to match her opponent like an oblivion NPC. but with stuff like this it makes me think there might be more to it.

>> No.45094143

>>45092313
This is why it's Aylesbury Geocentrism.

>> No.45094264

Is it theoretically possible - with setting-breaking power in hand - to pull a switcheroo on the Crimson Moon?
Wrestle away or wipe clean its Inner Sea, and "install" Arceuid OS as the new Ultimate One?
Could Dust of Osiris with HERMES do it?
Or, could a very advanced version of humanity do it?
>centuries more tech
>planet-cracking firepower
>can make huge megastructures in space
The only thing in the way are the complicated magic systems.
Giant magitech structures and the combined will of tens of billions are available.
>why would they bother
Some people would still live on the Earth because they like it there.
Plus, people might
>learn of vampires in general
>learn of CM trying to conquer the planet
Or maybe just, Sleeping Beauty Arceuid has become the obsession of a powerful person or group of people.
Idol culture is pretty strong after all.

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Type-Moon if it was good

>> No.45094286

>>45094264
or even just brainwash CM into thinking it IS Arceuid to begin with, and slowly mold its self into a copy of her, including personality and values

>> No.45094368

>>45092313
and? FGO always has alien niggers from outside the universe

>> No.45094394

>>45094368
fgo a shit though

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>> No.45094897

>>45094286
>>45094264
mfw people still don't know what CM is. Read KT. Play Melty.

>> No.45094939

>>45094897
CM is the Ultimate One and/or Archetype of the Moon, right? I actually don't feel like reading Tsukihime at the moment - and spoiled myself on it because I decided I didn't feel like it -, but CM definitely sounds like an asshole.

>> No.45095242

should have kept shirou a girl, and instead given temporary glowing magical futa dicks depending on which girl is transferring mana into which
rin grows one in UBW route to give shirou mana
shirou grows one in fate route to give saber mana
maybe in another scene of fate route, saber grows one for an emergency mana transfer opposite the usual direction
(because shirou is saber's sheath)

>> No.45095887

MERLIN
GET ME MY DICK

>> No.45096031

I think Arcueid is a Mary Sue.

>> No.45096280

>>45095887
For what, my king?

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>>45094264
>>45094286
Arc and CM are a single entity.

>> No.45097386

>>45096031
i don't know if she is but I've been slowly realizing arc is the most boring part of every scene she's in

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>> No.45097426

>>45097386
Get out of /jp/ Ciel.

>> No.45097433

>>45097386
Korean hand typed this.

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>>45097408
as someone who set up a mugen build that consisted primarily of darkstalkers and melty years ago, i greatly approve of this.

>> No.45097704

Ok, so, knowing all we know about celestial bodies and the Nasu universe, how do black holes slot in? Would they just be… black holes? Or would they me more special?

>> No.45097896

>>45097426
>>45097433
I didn't say she's bad or that I dislike her. I just can't think of many scenes that I'd say are carried by Arc. Someone else is usually doing the heavy lifting to make it cool or funny.
Arumi/Arc at school is a scene I'd say Arc 100% carries

>> No.45097928

>>45097704
>how do black holes slot in
They are the embodiment of Rin's defenseless anus.

>> No.45098766

>>45097704
Black holes are Olga's gimmick. They are pretty powerful, since Sion states a fingertip's worth of volume has the mass of the Earth.

>> No.45098779

>>45097896
Hard disagree. Arc is great in every scene she appears in.

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>> No.45098941

>>45098895
I hate indelible haunting blemishes.

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>> No.45099184

>>45099065
>still no design

>> No.45099235

>>45099184
Thank god.
Modern Type-Moon would probably make a visual abomination out of her like with Beast Olga.

>> No.45099248

>>45099184
Hebe Arcueid with long black hair

>> No.45099260

>>45099235
Tsuki designs are always top quality. I wouldn't worry about it.

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>>45099184
>>45099235

>> No.45099299

>>45098895
TM would have been better off writing milf hypnosis plots instead of where we are at. RG will be the last time we see something this good.

>> No.45099342

>>45099276
>>45099248
Unfortunately there is really no confirmation for this.

>> No.45099346

>>45099342
trust the plan

>> No.45100860

>>45098895
i don't remember this background at all

>> No.45101731

>>45100860
Day 8 Ciel

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Good morning tmg!

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>>45101823
Doctor Ass

>> No.45102373

>>45096750
Damn, I love this Takeuchi era

>> No.45102375

>>45102331
Doctor!

>> No.45102556

>>45096750
I'm pretty sure I get it.
>is the "shadow of Arceuid Brunestud", a possibility that may eventually accept the Crimson Moon's will
I want to imagine a RIDICULOUS future where the "guiding principle of action" has changed to suit the "outside Arceuid" as she typically is.
Where the "will of the moon" is warped to become Arceuid.
I can accept it a little more though now that it is referred to as "her", mommy moon can step on me

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Dr. boobs sex.

>> No.45102662

>>45102649
yes

>> No.45102671

our HEROINE Dr. Boobs SAVING us from the NEFARIOUS Kohaku in Red Garden 20XX

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Dr. Boobs CBT

>> No.45102721

>>45102676
no
I VEHEMENTLY oppose it

>> No.45102752

>>45102721
And yet you will select the choice of your own volition because you want to see Ciel Sensei and 100% the game.

>> No.45102878

>>45102671
Dr. Boobs my beloved.

>> No.45102963

>>45102752
actually I'm going to read wiki articles and fap to doujins

>> No.45103401

>I couldn’t save you. I said in the place of the man who cared for her
Is UBW Shirou referring himself or someone else here?

>> No.45103746
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>> No.45103864

>>45103746
Nice!

>> No.45103979

>>45103746
whoa

>> No.45104066

>>45102556
That's already happened more or less since Shiki and her met. That's the way they'll resolve the CM problem.

>> No.45104160

>>45104066
the way I read the wiki, it sounds like it just went dormant?
and arceuid still has to resist the vampiric impulses, which will mount over time, eventually forcing her to hibernate, right?
or is that stable now?
I'm thinking centuries, not years or decades
it could just be a case of not showing the future so as not to permanently resolve things

>> No.45104214

>Your honor, ideals
>DEATH.

>> No.45104482

>>45094265
>Fate/Night if it was Umineko

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>>45094265
It's the iconic Akiha staircase.

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sex with the mansion midget

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>>45104490
Bunny Aoko Halloween is pure sex.

>> No.45104759

I need to say it
While I do think theTsukihime anime sucks, I still liked it

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>>45104759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQFPQo1cD7c

>> No.45104803

>>45104763
for me it's gotta be
https://youtu.be/ueBipQ2fZaA?si=6lFJDKz_YnF5Mu5K

>> No.45104846

>>45104759
blurry sex with anime arcueid

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>>45104846

>> No.45104869

>>45104759
It's shit but I've seen in 3 times and I'd do it again.

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>>45104846
/

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>>45104874

>> No.45104908

>>45104906
kek

>> No.45104924

>>45104901
probably one gorillion tsuki timelines like fate but only one of them has a ciel that likes spaghetti

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>>45104924
Accurate.

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Official Makihisa design.
It would be funny if he looks like this in RG.

>> No.45104958

>>45104160
Play the series bro. The urge remains but there is nothing truly dormant. The princess aspect is just a part of her that bleeds through here and there.

>> No.45104961

>>45104948
deid mann...

>> No.45104975

>>45104948
Looks better in the manga. More like a slimy, exhausted and paranoid dude.

>> No.45105015

touko pantyhose

>> No.45105022

vs
aoko bra

>> No.45105041

sweaty aoko bra is 11/10

>> No.45105052

>aoko bra
ha, as if she would wear one

>> No.45105086

>>45104958
wiki is shitty then

>> No.45105099

ahhhhh braless aoko

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>> No.45105127

wait does this mean the
>felt cute, might melt the polar ice caps later
is literally just her being herself then

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>> No.45105179

>>45105127
Ciel does say something like it's something Arc would think and that's why she's an idiot no matter what.

>> No.45105189

>>45105178
So suckable.

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>> No.45105208

>>45105179
oh no
she looks so regal and beautiful and has so much power, I thought of her as a "mommy" type
but she's an idiot...

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>> No.45105263

>>45105208
Definitely not Mommy...
Well she does mention she'd keep Ciel and Shiki in her hands as she wipes the rest of the world and gets super savage/cold when Shiki dies and shows up for revenge.

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>>45075414
Is there really no way to play the original 2004 release, regardless of fan translation (though that would be ideal)?

>> No.45105536 [DELETED] 

>>45105528
*Of Fate Stay/Night, obviously.

>> No.45105547

>>45105528
*Of Fate/Stay Night, obviously.

>> No.45105618

>>45103401
Archer

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>> No.45105724

>>45105618
I thought Archer was kinda neutral to her.

>> No.45105777

>>45105724
>he didn't read 20 years of Nasu retcon interviews
how new

>> No.45105781

Thick vampire is kinda hot.

>> No.45105788

>>45105781
She's not that dumb.

>> No.45105802

>>45105788
bearlegs

>> No.45105932

>>45105777
Where do I start?

>> No.45105974

>>45105932
There's no list, neither in the Japanese or English fandom. You just have to stick around for 10+ years and ask for the source every time you hear a claim that sounds really fucking stupid. Even material books he has sold have been overwritten by interviews.

In regards to the Archer-Saber relationship, he said in some interview that archer Emiya comes from a timeline that's like F/SN except not where he "failed to save Saber's heart"

>> No.45106026

>>45105974
goddammit nasu

>> No.45106077

What does Aoko wear to bed?

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>> No.45106788

>saber
>arceuid
why are the strongest also the stupidest and clumsiest, bumbling their way into a loss

>> No.45106794

>>45106788
Nasu is a bad writer so the only way he can write battles is by one of the sides being utterly retarded

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>> No.45107262

>>45104948
>>45104975
I dunno. I like the first design more but TM doesn't want to reuse anything from the anime. He should somehow match Kiri's design similar to Kirei and Kiritsugu so I think short hair + beard or moustache would work better than just "old SHIKI".

>> No.45107279

>>45107262
nanaya and tohno are mirrors to each other, after all. i'd dig it.
>>45106788
that's how the universe balances itself. that's why gil is such a jobber as well. fucking blondes.

>> No.45107688

>>45099342
I'm pretty sure she should look like a 14 years old girl

>> No.45107696

>>45107688
according to what?
your dick?

>> No.45107721

why are timelines that *advance too quickly* pruned?

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It's so funny that almost all of Nasu works their "settings" can take place the month of October maybe expect for mahoyo.

>> No.45107983

>>45107696
NTA but that's official. She's a magical girl so she probably does the opposite of Noel.

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>>>>/a/258979234

>kek

>> No.45108347

>>45107219
This is lewd!

>> No.45108384

dude fuck akiha. i've had enough. she needs all her holes filled with nii-san cum. absolutely. exposing her belly occasionally like that... it's too naughty. what's next? exposed shoulders? oh god i hope so.

>> No.45108666

>>45106788
Saber is not stupid nor clumsy. Please take that back

>> No.45108688

>>45108666
satan here outing himself as a saber fan

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>>45107262
>He should somehow match Kiri's design
Doesn't he?

>> No.45109451

Who has the bigger dick
Archer or Lancer

>> No.45109585

>>45109451
Gilgamesh

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>> No.45110202

>>45109451
Archer’s is shorter but fatter.

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>> No.45112492

>>45111553
blood

>> No.45112521

>>45111553
I can't wait for this girl to throw some corpses at us in the remake.

>> No.45112526

>>45111553
she killed millions

>> No.45112650

>>45111553
sacchin socks

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>>45112492

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>> No.45112936

>>45112521
fuck i'm reading through the VN and i forgot how almost comical her fight with shiki in akiha's route is. it's not really much of a fight but her just ragdolling him until she gets sad. it's great.

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I think Arc did the same thing in both these instances; texture creation. Top one is just an explicitly higher scale version of the bottom one. Even in the Melty Blood version it was later revealed Arc created not just the Moon but even the dead humanity in the future since Dust extracted that future when Arc summoned the red moon.
Basically Arc can create textures that are universe-sized.

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>> No.45115272

>>45115022
I hope /tmg/ won't lynch me for saying I'd fuck this autistic robot

>> No.45115312

>>45115272
I thought that was Sacchin doing cosplay.

>> No.45115456

>>45115312
It is.

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This translation sucks.

>> No.45115701

>>45115312
>>45115272
i never really gave it much thought but they do kind of look alike

>> No.45116170

OK I'm gonna sound like a retard but what exactly was Ciel's plan against Arcueid? What was her trump card exactly if Arcueid can just scale up to her opponent, forever? How do you even kill a TA?

>> No.45116325

>>45116170
She finished reading the instruction manual and decided to ignore it, so nothing.

>> No.45116335

>>45116170
Eat her poop

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does the browser version of tsuki not have the final aoko scene or do i have to do something else besides get every true/good ending?

>> No.45116997

>>45116600
Did you get the false normal ending for Akiha? The game implies that this isn't treated like an actual ending, but like a bad ending, but then again...
I'm not too familiar with the browser version, but it is somewhat buggy from what I've heard.

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>>45116600
the aoko beach scene? Is that not just the MBTL ending?

>> No.45117177

>>45117160
Is Arc alright?

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>>45117177
noo.. yeah shes good. just spilled a lot of spaghetti sauce, she REALLY likes spaghetti sauce. Almost as much as Ciel in the (nonexistent) anime

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>> No.45117400

>>45117183
Mom's spaghetti!?

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>I have spent my life searching for the answers that the First and Third Magic failed to find.
>Why did Nasu create the retcons that litter our multiverse?
>How many are there?
>How did he harness autism, the life energy of Akasha?
>What is Type-Moon's purpose?
>And why do yet more retcons appear?
>I have asked the oldfags, but they do not remember.
>The oldfags have asked the Japanese, but they do not recall.
>Even the Japanese do not recall.

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>Unfortunately, I cannot fix your Servant.
>Though, in my professional opinion, this Alter form is an improvement.

>We won't find any of that Grail Mud stuff out there will we?
>Cause I'd hate to fall in again and turn into YOU!

>> No.45117770

>>45117624
>>45117728
Who are you quoting?

>> No.45117779

>>45117770
jak and daxter
my childhood

>> No.45117789

>>45117770
also referring to
>>45105974
>There's no list, neither in the Japanese or English fandom.

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>>45117183
mama mia, chef shiki on the case

>> No.45118332

Did Kouma actually stole the TV?

>> No.45118390

>>45117728
get out of here before i turn you into FGO players

>> No.45118486

>>45118390
Even Kirei wouldn't go that far...
*shudder*

>> No.45118587

>>45116170
There was talk of this last thread or before that. Basically, have them commit suicide or be able to separate them from the world and/or kill the world.
>>45118332
No.

>> No.45119105

I love Saber.

>> No.45119619

>>45119105
Stop pretending to be me

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>>45116997
yeah i sped through akiha's route again for that and it didn't work. rip, i guess.
>>45117160
the scene where shiki meets aoko on the field again, goober

>> No.45120082

>>45118332
Unlikely. The only reason why the meme is associated with him is mainly because he's one of the only designed characters that we know of that was likely in that Mansion, so when people read that line about the TV many immediately jump to him. But people forget that a ton of people lived in the Tohno Mansion

>> No.45120228

>>45120082
It was mentioned to be "Kishima's elder son". Isn't that Kouma?

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>>45108384

>> No.45120895

>>45120228
They didn't say he took it though IIRC. It was probably kugamine or something.

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>>45120867

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I'm really tired of the "NASU TURNED TSUKIHIME INTO A SHOUNEN LIKE FATE!!!11". Is new Arc even strong enough to deal with characters from other VNs like Beatrice?

>> No.45121577

>>45121453
Only retards say that.

>> No.45121734

>>45121453
Who cares about other series? They are not important.

>> No.45121800

>>45121453
There's a new Arc?

>> No.45121811

>>45121453
If you're tired of it, why did you bring the subject up?

>> No.45121849

>>45121453
She still lost to the dick, so no.

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I'm kinda new to Type Moon's works having now finished og Tsukihime and Kagetsu Tohya. I'll be reading Fate, Mahoutsukai and Kara no Kyokai sometime in the future. I read into the company's history and I'm guessing the success of Fate has made them lazy and they just outsource their Fate IP to rake in money now. Is this the 'fate' of the company? Other than ofc remaking and releasing Tsukihime and Mahoutsukai to the West?

>> No.45122199

>>45122149
Play plus disc idiot.

>> No.45122210

>>45122199
Forgot to mention I already did that.

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>> No.45122226

>>45122210
Play melty.

>> No.45122235

>>45122149
Yes they have basically just milked fate for about a decade. Tsuki R was their first real non-fate release in a really long time so at least not as hopeless as say the late 10s which was basically gacha shit and nothing else.

>> No.45122256

>>45122226
wakarimasuta

>> No.45122472

>>45122149
read tale

>> No.45122712

>>45122149
>>45122235
Yes but it rude to mention how soulless TM has become or the negative impact of selling out and focusing on profiting from a degenerate gambling sim.

>> No.45123151

Does Fate feel completely incompatible with Tsuki to anyone else? Summoning copies of recorded dead heroes(usually) and treating them like living beings getting another chance to fulfil their wishes or lingering regrets when Tsuki is about how the end comes for all, the illusion of immortality, the preciousness of a fleeting life and not just death but the total annihilation waiting for everything.

>> No.45123223

>>45123151
I just want more Tsuki content a bit more regularly. Fuck Fate.

>> No.45123291

>>45123151
>Does Fate feel completely incompatible with Tsuki to anyone else?
Nasu probably felt that way and that was why he split the universes.

>> No.45123597

So why did Zepia become a DA in Fate?

>> No.45124114

illya's "bad end" where you say yes to becoming her familiar is one of the hottest things I've seen
and illya isn't even my type, I prefer onee-sans and milfs
just the complete control and the "grabbing your soul" thing was so hot
where do I find more things like this
h-game or not

>> No.45124537

Going through MBAACC. Is V.Akiha's win quote against TATARI Kouma saying his flames may have killed her in Kishima land even if only a copy?

Is her quote against Arc saying she has diluted TA blood?

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sword autism

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boy, when they get past the brother/sister barrier, they're quite openly horny with each other. it's so good.

>> No.45125419

>>45125382
What does this even mean? Blood flows backwards. I've seen that before. Isn't this bad?

>> No.45125431

>>45125404
Best couple. Literally connected.

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>>45125404
I honestly have doubts whether red garden could top og Tsuki's route

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>>45125439
the build up to that was really good. even the sex feels well placed. it's gonna suck they'll just fade out of it with the remake.
>>45125431
you know, either i just have a thing for incest(even if it's fake), or their back and forth is really good. i find myself smiling a lot whenever akiha and shiki are talking to each other. i really like their chemistry and history. it's been so long since i've read the VN and i forgot all the small details like that that i like. it was well worth rereading.

>> No.45125660

>>45125419
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regurgitation_(circulation)
a long-term condition where some of the blood flows backwards

but in Shirou's case, it sounds like ALL of the blood pumped backwards for a second
if the heart recovers very quickly, I assume that's survivable
I don't know enough to say, whether Shirou's heart recovering is due to:
>normal self-correction
>manipulating his bodily processes with magic circuits (perhaps subconsciously)
>Avalon's regeneration

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>>45125539
>pic

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>>45125698
Hey, she is the most beautiful washboard there is. I make fun of her chest in the most loving way possible.

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>> No.45125916

>>/vg/452559878

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>>45125916
fwug
uh
maybe
>>>/vg/452559878

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>> No.45126203

https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/231102f

>> No.45126233

>>45126132
Please wear them.

>> No.45126299

>>45126203
Damn this is a long ass interview. Most of it is talking about shit I don't care about so I only skimmed it.

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>> No.45127225

>最近遊んだ『魔法使いの夜』【※45】は特に「えっ、これ終わっちゃうんすか!?」という気持ちが……。
>奈須氏:
>ゴ、ゴフッ!(血を吐くSE)
>でも、それはやっぱりライター冥利に尽きますね。

>> No.45127894

>>45124114
/d/
>illya isn't even my type, I prefer onee-sans

>> No.45127936

>>45118486
actually nevermind, he WOULD go that far
the basement is basically that

>> No.45128060

>>45122235
>>45122712
Yah yah TM is SOO soulless amirite bros? Unlike r07, key or nitroplus. Oh wait, they release shovelware or dabble with gacha.

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>> No.45128320

>>45128186
Gorgeous

>> No.45128531

If after Red Garden Nasu decide to do Tsukihime 2 should he release some light novel about Altrouge in the meantime they make the game?

>> No.45128835

>>45128531
What meantime? Only Nasu works on writing Tsukihime. With all the "hurr durr too much Fate" you seem to forget there's so much Fate because there're other writers who can work on Fate.

>> No.45128903

>>45128835
The problem is that Tsukihime is being held hostage and no other writer can work on it even if they wanted to. Reminder Case Files was originally meant to be a Church story before Nasu said "hell no, no Church content allowed, do this instead".
I want to see more Tsuki content even if it's done by other writers.

>> No.45128910

>>45126801
Cutie

>> No.45129126

>>45128903
Other writers suck though and their ideas are trash. It's not like Nasu has a vicegrip on every facet of what he doesn't write. That interview above even mentioned how other writers values come through when something has multiple. So it's a question of you might get more than you bargained for. It might be ok if they don't become the main outlet for determining setting/character "spirit" or dabble too much with pre-established characters. It's a monkey's paw situation potentially is all I'm saying.

>> No.45129141

>>45128060
The industry as a whole is soulless.

>> No.45129163

>……そうして、プレイヤーの価値観に沿うために複数用意するのがソーシャルゲームにおける「選択肢」だと思います。ただ、『FGO』の場合は選択肢の文字数が決まっているので、たまに2つの選択肢でひとつの文章にしちゃってる時があるんですが……。

>逆に、『月姫』のように主人公が完全にキャラクターとして独立している場合は、そのシーンにおける選択肢は「その言葉で、運命がどう分岐するか」という意味合いのものになります。

>> No.45129171

>>45128060
the fuck is the point of this post? do you think I'm not also disappointed in nitroplus doing nothing of note or key being bought by the chinese?

>> No.45129343

>>45129163
this interview will be a reality check for some people

>> No.45129408

>>45129343
Main takeaways?

>> No.45129514

>>45129126
>Other writers suck though and their ideas are trash
>It's a monkey's paw situation potentially is all I'm saying
I don't care, it's still better than literally nothing. Nasu always gives the writers an outline anyway so it's not like they can write anything at random.

>> No.45129536

>>45129408
mostly referring to the discussions about self-insert protagonists (extra, fgo) and how they are written within the story as player surrogate, with choices purposely made to question the player directly whereas in something with a protagonist that can stand on its own like tsuki, it's more to see how the story will branch rather than just the player role-playing. basically, it's something everyone know already, apart from a minority who like to pretend their self-insert gacha are actual characters.

>> No.45130120

>>45129536
Funny how that simultaneously kills the narrative that their avatar is changing after so many years and was meant to be anything else while also killing their intentional misunderstanding about when Nasu was talking about PoV.

>> No.45130182

>ゲーム作りを陸上競技にたとえると、単発のコンシューマーが「短距離走の一瞬の中で凄まじい記録を出す」ようなシナリオの書き方だと思います。「この一瞬に燃え尽きてもいい」くらいの気持ちで、ひとつの作品を作り上げるのがコンシューマータイトルです。

>逆にソーシャルゲームなどの運営型タイトルは、陸上競技にたとえると「長いマラソン」になります。しかも、ゴールがない。なぜなら倒れたらそこがゴールだから!

>要所要所で力をセーブしながらも、最終的に見えているゴールライン……かすかに見えているあの光に向かって走り続けるマラソンなのです。いろいろなトラブルを乗り越えながら、なんとか走り続ける長い勝負が運営型タイトルなのだと思います。

>そして単発型と運営型のシナリオには、それぞれの面白さがあります。ひとつのパッケージの中の世界で、ひとつの箱庭を好きなだけ表現できる単発型タイトルは、ライターからすると本当に楽しいです。

>さきほど石川さんが仰っていたように、「ひとつの世界を構築する」という点において工芸品、芸術作品と言ってもいい。いや言いたい。アートによったゲームの多くが名作として心に残り続けるのはそういう事だと信じています。

>逆に、運営型タイトルは常にその時代のコンプライアンスなどを考慮しながら作っていくものなのです。 常に「自分は今、このゲームを遊んでいるプレイヤーを相手にステージに立っている」というリアルタイムの一体感は運営型でしか味わえない楽しさです。

>加えて、「シナリオの中に自分以外の味がある」ことが運営型タイトルのシナリオ構築の面白さですね。多くのライターの手で世界観を構築していき、最終的にひとつの大きな世界を作り上げるのが運営型なのだと思います。

>最終的な完成度はちょっと想定しきれないけれど、世界観の広がりと達成感に関しては、運営型のシナリオドリブンに敵うものはないと思っています。まぁ、これは『FGO』の第2部を綺麗に終わらせてから言うべきだとは思うんですが……。

>> No.45130272

>>45129126
A character like Altrouge surely have her personality and backstory already made, any writer will just have to put all those events on paper without coming up with a story himself

>> No.45130298

>>45130272
There is more to writing than looking at a profile sheet. You'd have zero% chance at having Altrouge be properly realized by anyone not Nasu. You'd be better or letting some random writer make their own characters and do a spin-off with some general setting information.

>> No.45130300

>>45128060
>>45129171
https://twitter.com/Nitroplusarts/status/1719188442545074535

>> No.45130309

>>45130182
>これは『FGO』の第2部を綺麗に終わらせてから言うべきだとは思うんですが……。
yes

>> No.45130319

>>45130298
And it isn't even just the writer but also the type
of work itself they create for the character that will affect how they're presented.

>> No.45130337

This was a relatively meaty interview.

>自分はジャンルによって組み立て方が変わりますね……。小説の場合は、明確に「最後にこの言葉を言うために話を書く」というスタイルです。最後に書き上げるひとつの言葉を読者に味わってもらうための世界を積み上げていきます。ゲーム作りとは対極的に、完全に独りよがりのスタイルですね。

>サウンドノベルの場合、キャラクターと世界観は同時に作り上げていくことが多いです。「この作品は、こういうキャラクターがいて、こういう世界観で、最終的なテーマは○○です」という看板を最初に作り、そこからお話を肉付けしていきます。

>また、ゲームは多くのスタッフが何年もかけて作り上げるものだから、まず商品として売れないとどうしようもない。なので、「売れるためのこと」も考えます。

>『月姫』の場合は、最初に「(色々な意味で)一番強いキャラ」を考える。初期段階でメインヒロインのアルクェイドは決まっていたのですが、そこで当時の武内【※25】が「メイドメイド!」とか言い出して……(笑)。

>そもそもの『月姫』のジャンルがいわゆる「ギャルゲー」だったので、重要なコンセプトは「プレイヤーには各ヒロインのルートで恋をしてもらう」ということでした。まず真っ先に、ヒロインを好きになってもらう。そこに物語全体のテーマと、各ヒロインのテーマを用意して、それぞれのルートに落とし込んでいきます。

>最後に「RPG」ジャンルの場合は、「世界を旅して、最後に世界の終わりを見る」ことが重要です。そのRPGの終わり……ひとつワールドエンドを見届けるために、その世界の中で物語を作らなければなりません。

>『FGO』もそのゴールを目指して進んではいますが、ソシャゲなので毎月、初期プロットにはない新規キャラクターが出てきます。「今月のピックアップキャラクター」というお題がやってきて、そのPU対象のキャラでシナリオを作る事になる。

>ただ、『FGO』のメインストーリーの場合は、「そのストーリーに必要なキャラクター」を半分くらいはライターのほうで決めることができます。たとえば「黄金樹海紀行 ナウイ・ミクトラン」【※26】の場合は、こちら側から「舞台が南米になるので、南米の神様のサーヴァントを2人発注したいです」という要望を出しています。

>具体的には大体2年くらい前の時点で「どんなキャラクターを出すのか」が決まっています。ライター側で設定を作り、イラストレーターさんにデザインしてもらい、そしてバトルキャラを実装していく……と考えると、まるまる1年はかかりますので。

>そして、「女の子、男の子、善人、悪人なキャラが欲しい」といったように、その年のバランスを考えながらラインナップを作り上げていきます。その中からライターが担当するそれぞれのサーヴァントを決めていきます。

>ラインナップが揃った時点で土台となる設定は決められているので、「このキャラはこっちの章で使えそうじゃない?」などのライター同士のアイデア出しも、そこで行われたりしますね。

>> No.45130366

>>45130272
>Sakurai adds a love triangle between Altrouge, Fina-Blood and Rizo-Waal
>Higashide makes them huge rivals that fight 5 times in the novel
>Meteo randomly gives Altrouge a loli form
Great idea m8.

>> No.45130373

>>45130366
Altrouge has a loli form.

>> No.45130378

>>45130309
>奈須氏:10年くらい運営してる『FF14』であれば、もう「自分の生活から『FF14』がなくなったら、どうすればいいかわからない!」という意見を目にすることもあると思います。

>自分もそういう人がいる限りは続けていきたいとも思うのですが、「もうワシの身体は限界じゃ!!」みたいな……(笑)。

He might not make it.

>> No.45130386

>>45130337
>>45130182
>Walls of text

>> No.45130399

>>45130386
I wanted to just pull out some interesting sections for the people who won't even open it.

>> No.45130402

>>45128531
I think Executor Shiki case files novel/manga might be something he will give to Sasaki Shounen or something...

>> No.45130410

>>45130386
Yes god forbid someone might read something. Anyways thanks to the anon because I am indeed too lazy to actually read the whole thing.

>> No.45130412

>>45130366
>>45130298
And that somehow beats having no Altrouge at all because Nasu will die before he can ever depict her as a character?
At least it gives us something to talk about.

>> No.45130420

>>45130412
Are you actually serious? If Nasu isn't writing Altrouge, it's shit and I don't want it.

>> No.45130435

>>45130412
Unironically yes. I'd rather read his profile notes post-mortem instead of having a hack's fanfiction. That's just me though.

>> No.45130447

>>45130402
Sasaki can beat Nasu so that's ok. His art added a ton to the experience that it stands on its own.

>> No.45130460

>>45130420
That's retarded. I question if you're even a fan at that point. You can't really say x content is garbage without giving it a chance. What if it's actually good?

>> No.45130474

>>45130460
I have no idea what this reply is supposed to mean. No, I'm not a fan of Sakurai or [insert some other hack writer here]. I'm a fan of Nasu.

>> No.45130480

>>45130182
>さきほど石川さんが仰っていたように、「ひとつの世界を構築する」という点において工芸品、芸術作品と言ってもいい。いや言いたい。アートによったゲームの多くが名作として心に残り続けるのはそういう事だと信じています。

They know.

>> No.45130495

The past decade has made it easy for me to say I'm much more a Nasu fan rather than a TM fan.
Nasu telling Sanda to leave Tsukihime to him makes it clear what his intentions are. Tsukihime isn't suited for multiple writers and a million spinoffs like Fate anyway.

>> No.45130497

>>45130460
You only got one shot. You don't let no one but the goat take it when it matters. To be fair, Sasaki is proven at least.

>> No.45130533

>>45130337
>『FGO』もそのゴールを目指して進んではいますが、ソシャゲなので毎月、初期プロットにはない新規キャラクターが出てきます。「今月のピックアップキャラクター」というお題がやってきて、そのPU対象のキャラでシナリオを作る事になる。

>ただ、『FGO』のメインストーリーの場合は、「そのストーリーに必要なキャラクター」を半分くらいはライターのほうで決めることができます。たとえば「黄金樹海紀行 ナウイ・ミクトラン」【※26】の場合は、こちら側から「舞台が南米になるので、南米の神様のサーヴァントを2人発注したいです」という要望を出しています。

People wonder why there are so many forgettable characters as if it isn't down to the nature of the business.

>> No.45130568

>>45130497
So Tsuki 2 manga written by Sasaki then?

>> No.45130586

>小説の場合は、明確に「最後にこの言葉を言うために話を書く」
>「RPG」ジャンルの場合は、「世界を旅して、最後に世界の終わりを見る」ことが重要です。そのRPGの終わり……ひとつワールドエンドを見届けるために、その世界の中で物語を作らなければなりません。
>「キャラクターのテーマ」とは「人生」... アルトリアは既に「キャラクターのテーマ」における「結論」を口にしているキャラです。そのキャラに対しては、「既に結論に到達しているのに、これ以上このキャラクターの日常を見ても、つまらないんじゃないか?」と、いつも思ってしまう。プレイヤーや読者にとって「このキャラってこういうキャラだったんだね」と判明するまでの道程そのものが、「キャラクターのテーマ」と言えるものです。
It's funny how someone so concerned with endings when it comes to writing stories is going to write for the same game for the rest of his life.

>> No.45130689

>>45130586
I think it's peculiar how he constantly reminds people of his stamina and the end. It's as if he wants to say he wants to keep it going for those who fill his pockets but even that has a limit so don't forget. He's always talking about the end of the world, the feeling of loss, etc and it's obvious in the game writing even. You can clearly only have interest in the same thing for so long. Not just as a player(as implied about having to introduce new things) but as a writer.

>> No.45130701

>>45130689
>また、ゲームは多くのスタッフが何年もかけて作り上げるものだから、まず商品として売れないとどうしようもない。なので、「売れるためのこと」も考えます。
I guess this just overrules everything else.

>> No.45130712

>──クリアしたあとにそのゲームの音楽を聴いたりすると、より「浸れる」感覚はありますよね。

>新納氏:エンディングを迎えても、まだ身体の半分がゲームの世界に残っているあの状態でストーリーを思い返したり、曲を聴いたりしますよね。ちなみにそれを一番やっていたのはPC版の『月姫』でした。

>PCから携帯端末にテキストを全部移して、その携帯を使って『月姫』の好きなテキストを電車の中で読んだりして……。

>奈須氏:マジかよ!厄介ファンだわ~!!

>一同:(笑)。

>新納氏:しかも、読むシーンは大体同じなんですよ(笑)。

>何度も同じシーンを読んでいく内に、徐々に『月姫』の世界がスーッと抜けてきて、「あぁ、終わったんだな」と思う感じがたまらないです。

>> No.45130764

>>45130689
>>45130701
Tsukihime sold quite well though. I guess there is not much to worry about?

>> No.45130808

>>45130764
why bother when you are generating billions with low effort contents though?

>> No.45130831

>>45130272
For Tsukihime world I only see 3 series aside from VN and it's adaptations. Melty which expands VN and it's characters specifically without going outside the city. Executor Shiki spinoff which will talk about whole "world of darkness" business, especially the Church. And finally Tsukihime 2 which will be grand finale and brings out the big guns. Foundations of Tsukihime world, Dark Six, CM return and all that stuff

>> No.45130847

>>45130701
They must have been pleasantly surprised with how well received Remake was. That their love letter to their roots sparked interest for something different from the norm. Would be nice to see more from that setting, including Mahoyo.
>>45130764
You can make that kind of money with one or two garbage tier events. It's just a difference in monetization. So while it is reassuring there is a base to build on for other stuff, it's mostly passion projects and I guess building something to fall back on when the ship eventually sinks.

>> No.45131658

Given how ridiculously strong even weaker DA are (rank V DA are strong to solo groups of vampire-hunting specialists), how the hell was the MA even able to fight Crimson Moon in the past? I imagine it was mostly Zelretch, but still.

>> No.45132051

>>45131658
Literally magic.

>> No.45132089

>>45132051
So just Zelretch carrying everyone?

>> No.45132262

>>45132089
I mean basically? He also killed #3.and is the only reason the mages got together.

>> No.45133100

What material is Ciel's Gothic Fort made out of?

>> No.45133190

>>45133100
It's a conceptual phase-changing Isolation type bounded field. Isn't it basically DAA avalon but more varied.

>> No.45133212

Does Ushi gozens armor actually keep her under control or is that fanon? I missed where it was specified.

>> No.45133231

>>45133190
No, it's explicitly a 30 kilometer diameter wall. Chromclay's version had the ability to isolate the inside from the outside world akin to Avalon. Ciel's version doesn't have that feature, but instead she can alter the space inside the walls, something Chromclay couldn't do.

>> No.45133311

>>45128531
He'll never do Tsuki 2

>> No.45133375

>>45133231
It's still a conceptual bounded field that isolates its target though.

>> No.45133404

>>45133375
Conceptual doesn't mean it's somehow intagible, but rather that it carries a concept. It still needs to hold a certain amount of hardness and texture to it otherwise it's not a wall at all.

>> No.45133418

>>45133231
the 30 km wall was chromclays but it's probably magic/conceptual. He made a see through wall show up right?

>> No.45133460

>>45133404
It's doubtful that it's made of anything real given what it's meant to hold and derived from DAA powers that ignore reality.

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>>45133418
>the 30 km wall was chromclays
Both Ciel and Chromclay's.
>He made a see through wall show up right?
True and it was hard enough that regular civilians couldn't escape but that doesn't say much.

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