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Why are all Touhou games impossible?

I have a feeling that someone like me who does not like or is any good at shoot em ups will ever find any meaningful success in Touhou.

How does /jp/ do it? All you fuckers are god-tier.

>> No.4504775

We have a lot of free time.

>> No.4504795

>>4504773
The answer: "Fuckn' ASPIES."

>> No.4504801

>>4504773
Lots of patience, practice and fine tuned reflexes.

>> No.4504802

>Why are all Touhou games impossible?

They aren't, they are actually quite easy for shmups.

>I have a feeling that someone like me who does not like or is any good at shoot em ups will ever find any meaningful success in Touhou.

Shmups are about practice. If you cultivate such a self-defeating attitude then you'll never practice and you really will never get better. Nobody starts off good at shmups, and there's a lot of failure involved before you become able to even clear normal mode.

>How does /jp/ do it? All you fuckers are god-tier.
I wouldn't say everyone here is god-tier. I do miss the "Let's play some danmaku" threads though..

>> No.4504807

we take it easy

>> No.4504813

>>4504795

>> No.4504826

aspies
masochists
too much free time
our waifus are in the game

>> No.4504848

>All you fuckers
No, many of us don't even care about toehoes.

>> No.4504868

>>4504795

Aspies: Just another title that people gave themselves to feel "Special". People continue to classify themselves to give themselves a feeling of unwarranted self importance.

The whole syndrome was most likely diagnosed just so that quack doctors can shove pills down the throats of children making them addicted to the garbage they force feed them thinking it will help them and to make assloads of money while doing so.

If any of you have actually seen "real" autistic people, and I mean unable to talk or understand you. It is not pleasant.

>> No.4504881

>>4504868

Look at mister doctor here who thinks he knows what he's talking about

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>>4504868

>> No.4504884

>>4504802
There was a thread on Friday but it looks like things aren't the same without the original LPsD.

>> No.4504925

>>4504881

Trust me you should be lucky to even be alive, the number of diseases out there in the gene pool are staggering.

BTW I am a Bio major, and I have seen several autistic kids before. It is not pleasant to look at or even grasp, knowing that their potential will never truly be understood or unleashed because of their limitations. Most Autism is caused due to a lack of a chemical in the blood; I think it was Oxytocin if I am not mistaken, the same can be said with Down syndrome caused by raised levels of purines in the blood due to the Gart Gene.

>> No.4504926

>>4504868
I don't think anyone on /jp/ takes any sort of medication for their "aspies", but I do agree that its just a useless term.

I would never claim I have aspies to "feel special" It's just a more pleasant way of saying we are socially retarded. Also none of this has anything to do with autism.

>> No.4504930

>>4504925

who cares? what the fuck does this have to do with anything?

>> No.4504935

newfag here

are these threads trolls? im asking because i dont really think touhou is that hard.

>> No.4504936

There are also 2D fighters.

Shoot the Bullet is a game everyone should play.

>> No.4504938

>>4504935
What mode did you play?

>> No.4504942

>>4504935

Because your skill is immediately indicative of the entire world's skill.

Get out.

>> No.4504944

>>4504935
No, people nowadays just suck at video games, one quick browse through /v/ will tell you that.

>> No.4504949

>>4504935
Just depends on the person, I know theres some people that play casually all the time but can't beat easy modo.

>> No.4504953

>>4504944
Hence the Hamhanded neckbearded cry of Casuals.

>> No.4504963

>>4504953
>Hamhanded neckbearded cry
Lold so hard.

>> No.4504973

>>4504938
1ccd EoSD on lunatic (took me a while though). havent played that much to the others.

>> No.4504984

>>4504963
Been on /v/ before though. Yet it is just /b/ with vidya. There are very few things made of win on the internet though.

>> No.4504989

>>4504973
Different people have different skill levels, big shock. 99.9% of people would find that impossible.

>> No.4504998

>>4504944

I dunno about you but a quick browse through /v/ right now doesn't tell me much of anything.

>> No.4505001

>>4504984

Isn't /jp/ just /b/ for losers that masturbate to cartoon girls?

>> No.4505005

>>4504989
>>4504973
I think anyone can do it, just the definition of "took a while" will vary greatly. I for one don't find it worth the trouble.

>> No.4505012
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they're not, dude. you just have to play them a lot. also, a joystick for the PC will do wonders for your game. for realz. stick with it, they are among the best games ever created.

>> No.4505016

>>4505001
It's where exiled topics go

>> No.4505018

Some people who play Touhou shooters play other shooters, like those by CAVE or by Raizing. Some think those games are harder, and others think Touhou are harder.

>> No.4505021

>>4505012

>best games ever created.

It's things like these...

>> No.4505030

>>4505005
No reason you have to. I found the games fun from the getgo even when I couldn't get past stage 2 on normal so I kept playing.

>> No.4505042

Touhou games are on the easy scale compared to other Shmups.

See this vid for reference:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP-mePr1-ZQ

>> No.4505044

>>4505012
This is the single most retarded post I've ever read on /jp/. Fuck you.

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>>4505021

things like these that what? maybe i should have said best DOUJIN games ever created or most addictive games ever created. face it, man. there wouldn't be 9000+ threads/sec if that wasn't partly true.

you know you love them.

>> No.4505057

>>4505049
Can you make a post where you don't sound like a 14 year old?

>> No.4505060

>>4505042
What's your point?

>> No.4505079

>>4505060
That Touhou games are fucking easy.

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>>4505044

oh hey i know you. you're the hater archetype that lurks threads waiting to debunk any positive sentiment. way to be a cliche, faggot.

>> No.4505087

>>4505079


Fuck off, elitist.

>> No.4505092

>>4505082
This is the single most retarded post I've ever read on /jp/. Fuck you.

>> No.4505098

>>4505079
Thanks for the useless post then, that doesn't change the reality I experience when I play them. Sorry I haven't played shmups for 10,000 hours I guess?

>> No.4505100

It's like I'm really on Gaia.

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>>4505092
>>4505044
>>4505092

saaaaaaamefagg.

>> No.4505107

Terrible thread

>> No.4505108

>>4505102
what is this i dont even

>> No.4505113

sure is butthurt in here

>> No.4505116

>>4505102
>>4505082
>>4505049
>>4505012
Same autistic child.

>> No.4505121

>>4505102
Why don't you just stay on /b/?

>> No.4505128

Everyone else in this thread needs to stop posting forever.

>> No.4505146

OP here

What did you assholes do to my thread? How am I going to lament my lack of my skill in it now?

>> No.4505148

>>4505087
>bawwww, i suck, so anybody better than me is an elitist

>> No.4505151

>>4505146
Make another one several hours from now.

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>>4505042
Umm, so, you are saying that a hacked version of a games last boss is harder than Lunatic-mode touhou. Or extra stages, or phantasm stage or even UFO on lunatic.

Nice try.

Btw, only have 1cc MoF.

>> No.4505160

>>4505148


anyone who flaunts their skill as a fact for everyone and not an opinion is an elitist, yes.

Get the fuck out.

>> No.4505165

you just lack japanese spirit

>> No.4505172

>>4505160
There are always typical unlikeable shmup mastars who haunt threads like these, they won't go anywhere so don't bother.

>> No.4505173

Practice makes perfect.

>> No.4505177

>>4505173

OP here

Practiced for over 35 hours and have made around 80 or so serious attempts with no luck

what do?

>> No.4505181

>>4505177
what game/mode do you play?

>> No.4505187

>>4505177

Practice. I'm the same as you, so I just said "Fuck that, I'm spending my time doing something else" and just play casually.

>> No.4505189

>>4505181

pcb normal

>> No.4505191

I assume it's like IIDX: Play a shitload until you stop sucking.

>> No.4505193

>>4505189
with 3 lives?

>> No.4505200

>>4505177
Are you non-asian? Because non-asians have slower reflexes than asians. If yes, just accept your mediocre reflexes. If no, then you suck big-time.

>> No.4505202

>>4505193

Yes.

>> No.4505203

I take it easy by not taking it easy. No Touhous on my Linux box/

>> No.4505213

>>4505203
I only play Danmakufu because it has open source bullets

>> No.4505217

>If yes, just accept your mediocre reflexes.

Alright, then what?

>> No.4505223

>>4505213
Have fun playing 98% utterly shitty fanmade scripts and a handful of good ones.

>> No.4505233

>>4505213
It's open source? I thought it was only scriptable.

>> No.4505242

>>4505223
I WILL have fun, because I'm supporting independent designers instead of Big Danmakkku.

I wish I could work a $ into that but I don't know where.

>> No.4505253

>>4505217
Reflexes aren't that neccesary honestly. You just need to think more while playing. Memorization can help a ton. Also a few simple tactics, bomb on things you know you fail at if you're going for a 1cc, instead of dodging bullets go through gaps, and don't move erratically as that messes with how enemies fire bullets most of the time. You've just got to think more. You may think it's about skill, but it's possible to learn danmaku.

>> No.4505258

>>4505242
And you are not stealing.

>> No.4505297

>>4505253
Really? I had my highest scores and 1CCs while I was semi-drunk/flat-out drunk and not thinking at all. Looks like ZUN-mode is overpowering.

>> No.4505315

>>4505253
Yeah reflexes help a lot, but you can get by with average ones. It's mostly about familiarity + experience. Probably the biggest skill is being able to move exactly where you intend to move, also implying that you know where you are without having to look. That one took me a while.

>>4505297
I play best when I'm not overthinking or going off of memory, maybe that's why ZUN mode works.

>> No.4505318

>>4505253

I think a huge problem I have is not hitting the bomb button fast enough most of the time, to the point where I am losing lives with bombs still in stock on hard parts like youmu

I know it's kind of unacceptable but I press on because really, what else can I do?

>> No.4505337

>>4505318
decide beforehand where you need to use bombs

>> No.4505346

>>4505318
It sounds like you were trying to bomb while trying to do the spellcard normally. If you're going for a 1cc, forgo trying at any spellcard you're not confident against and simply bomb it after a few seconds, the armor wears off, or the first wave of bullets reach you. Feel free to attempt difficult spellcards when you're out of bombs. Planned bombing can get you far.

>> No.4505358

>>4505346

>It sounds like you were trying to bomb while trying to do the spellcard normally

Well yeah, isn't that what they are? "Get-out-of-death-free" cards?

>> No.4505374

>>4505318
Vsync patch

>> No.4505379

>>4505374
olololololol

>> No.4505391

>>4505358
No, not if you're reflexes aren't fast enough for deathbombs. I'm talking about bombing without even trying the card a bit. A planned bomb.

>> No.4505401

>>4505391

Oh yeah, I've done it before. I fuck up every time I try though.

Example: I can't do Youmu's last spell so I bomb it away...but I end up havng to use like 3 bombs because one will end up not working (and yes I know the bosses have invincibility frames right before spellcards I have no idea why it doesn't work) and the other will do like 10% of the damage it's supposed to. The last one will finally do it's job.

>> No.4505438

>>4505401
Bosses have armor for a short time into their spellcard. Just try to keep an eye on the opponent's lifebar and bomb when it starts going down regularly.

>> No.4505456

>>4505438


On top of them, or what?

Because I don't see how a bomb anywhere else would help. It would be kind of hard to get right next to them a few seconds in to the spellcard

>> No.4505479

>>4505456
Some bombs require you to be on top of the boss to do damage. Some don't hurt very much either way.

Solution: Master Spark

>> No.4505482

>>4505456
Depends on the bomb, which shottype do you use?

>> No.4505486

>>4505482

Reimu B.

>> No.4505507

>>4505486
ReimuB's focus bomb has low range. You need the boss to be in that area where the cards spin right around you to deal good damage with it.

>> No.4505511 [DELETED] 

>>4505456
you use bombs to stay alive not for the danmage

>> No.4505520

>>4505456
you use bombs to stay alive not for the damage

>> No.4505521

>>4505511
this is what secondaryfags actually believe

>> No.4505527

>>4505520

Did you miss all of the past 20 replies or what?

I usually use bombs to save my ass but apparently I'm doing it wrong and that's not what they're for.

>> No.4505534

Not reading this thread but the OP is dumb if he thinks people here can actually play for shit

>> No.4505571

>>4505534
I agree no one here actually plays Touhou. They just talk shit like they do.

>> No.4505672

>>4505527
Feel free to use bombs to save you ass, you just don't want to risk wasting them by dying.

>> No.4505688

>>4505571

There were 2 people in the danmaku threads that showed decent skill and the rest were about what I'd expect.

2 people out of an entire forum. Yeah we're all experts easy modo am I right guys haha!

>> No.4505731

>>4505688
I was busy playing Rance. Not that I can do lunatic or anything.

>> No.4506006

OP here,

I need a replay. I can't brute force this game anymore, I'm at a limit. I just figured out how to do one of Youmu's spellcards after my 25th time fighting her, but that's just one of like four. I'm assuming touhou is all about

1. fight
2. die 50 times until you can
3. beat

and while I don't mind that in certain amounts, I am just sick of Youmu. Fuck her spellcards up the ass.

>> No.4506035

>>4505571
What the...

And I thought you guys all have experienxe with CAVE shooters. I am disapointed of you, /jp/.

>> No.4506076

PROTIP: goto videocard settings and change the refresh rate to 40 Hz. Does wonders.

PROTIP: Don't be Touhou, write a program to do it for you. SA Reimu-Aya is easiest to do this for.(fast speed+ability to put out damage in any direction+AI that can predict the location of enemies and bullets about 2 frames in advance=automatic kill of every enemy on screen=every bullet grazed=every item collected=instant highscore on english scoreboards)

>> No.4506080

>>4506076
PROTIP? More like NOOBTIP, amirite?

>> No.4506105

>>4506035
Most of /jp/ plays Touhou. However "most of /jp/" is but a fraction of the current, /a/ and /v/ infested board.

>> No.4506107

Protip: Don't just play danmakus, switch between them and StepMania/rthym game shit and fighting games. That should put your hands and reflex in good condition.

>> No.4506110

you could always go back to playing something easy like final fantasy or pokemon

>> No.4506128

I highly doubt any of you were good in your first few weeks.

>> No.4506132

>>4506128
I wasn't good but I didn't treat it like some impossible shit.

>> No.4506147

>>4506132
This. If you actually believe it's impossible, all hope is lost for you.

>> No.4506159

Practice mode is there for a reason, use it!
Also to get a hang on those tricky, fast spell cards, there is a slowdown mode you can select in the options. It slows the game down when there're lots of bullets on screen, so you can see the safespots and exploit them.

>> No.4506162

>Hold shift for focused movement

>> No.4506182

Did I mention I use a controller?

>> No.4506298

>>4506182

Did I mention I dont Touhou?

>> No.4506302

Yeah, OP again.

is PCB really the easiest Touhou? I've played them all and I think MoF is far easier.

Nearly killed Kanako again 5 minutes ago, my second try. If I put as much effort into MoF that I do PCB, I would have MoF 1cc'd already.

>> No.4506310

>>4506302
On Easy and Normal PCB is actually pretty tough. But in harder difficulties you can easily force your way through the game using SakuyaA because it showers you with like 12 lives with 4 bombs each plus all the bosses that matter have a shitload of trash patterns you'll always capture once you get them.

>> No.4506312

>>4506107

I play IIDX at a decent level and this is bullshit. Skills don't transfer over, the only thing I can imagine transferring over is an appreciation that number of things on the screen != difficulty.

>> No.4506314

imperishable night much easier.

still fail at taiga green cross (ufo)........

>> No.4506319

>>4506312
Yeah skills in rhythm games --> shmups doesn't translate in any way. I've been playing shmups for years and can 1cc most cave games (1st loop at least if they're looping games), got bored of Touhou, 1cc'd most on Hard, could probably do Lunatic with enough practice.

However I recently got into IIDX as well, but suck majorly and find myself at a wall on level 6's.

>> No.4506333

>>4506319

I mean it's a different sort of pattern, rhythm games like IIDX is all about sight reading so good reflexes aren't really necessary and patterns are based on rhythm.

I guess another thing that could transfer over is appreciation of the amount of work these sorts of games require, so you know what sort of work you need to do to get better. I've been sitting on the mid to hard 12 wall for over a year now and just got an easy clear on 3y3s another the other day, the first new clear of any kind I've had in months.

>> No.4506335

Oh and it's the opposite for me, I can't 1cc anything other then dodonpachi but I'm decent with rhythm games. Two sides of the same coin ehh?

>> No.4506346

>>4506335
It's just a huge time investment to be really good at both genres. Good for NEETs, not so much for anyone else though.

>> No.4506347

For some reason I find skill at IIDX to be an incredibly attractive trait in females, even though I don't play myself. Whenever I see a girl banging out a super hard song on a IIDX machine at an arcade or something, I always get the urge to try and hit on her, until I remember that I'm a socially retarded /jp/ user.

>> No.4506356

>>4506346

Pretty much, I hate people who are really smug and condensing about how skilled they are too because really the only difference between them and a new player is in how much time has been invested.

One of the better US players I know has playcounts for some level 12 songs into the thousands. That is, 1000 x ~2:00min song = around 33 hours PER SONG.

>> No.4506357

>>4506347
I'd have a hardon if just my local arcade even had IIDX, or even rarer some good shmups. Fucking best they have is a DDR and ITG cab, then just a slew of Initial D/racing and redemption games.

>> No.4506367

for any game, easy mode is doable is a dozen tries or less

for normal mode:

LLS < IN < MoF < PCB < UFO < MS < SA

the multiplayer games are also pretty easy (PoDD, PoFV, IaMP, SWR)

replays can be found here: http://replays.gensokyo.org/

>> No.4506368

>>4506367
Wow, that list is surprisingly accurate.

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>>4506347

Me irl sitting in the chair.

>>4506357

I know someone who was sick of there not being a local Pop'n cab and the fact that konami have given up on the PS2 ports so he went and bought a Pop'n 17 cab. $9000, just to have the thing sit in his living room when he feels like playing it.

>> No.4506385

>>4506367
>>4506368
Why is LLS and MS there, but not SoEW or EoSD?

MoF < < < SA ?
The bomb mechanic is nearly the same.
When you can bomb 70+ times (even on Orin), it's surely easier than...... MS(...), EoSD(not enough lifes/bombs), and SoEW(damn Marisa and Mima).

>> No.4506395

1 not everyone on /jp/ is good at touhou. However we all here have a waifu from touhou, so that's why we all talk about it.

2 the games are not impossible, just make a consideration: I'm 22. When I was about 9 there were arcade games. Now it's true that I was younger but hell, THOSE were hard. And also you had to pay coins to play.
With touhou you just have to relax and play freely, and a bit of practice can make you better at the game. Just mind to play with a different purpose than "gotta beat the game", because if you do it, when around at stage 3 you will lose a life for a stupid mistake you will just rage instead of playing better.

>> No.4506403

>>4506356
>Pretty much, I hate people who are really smug and condensing about how skilled they are too because really the only difference between them and a new player is in how much time has been invested.
Typical secondary fan thinking Touhou is nothing more than luck and memorization. I 1cc'd my first Touhou (PCB) on normal mode in the first month. Time alone will not make you better at these games. It's more about how often you play. Leading up to my completion of PCB I played it 8 to 12 hours each day. Had I went on a 2 or 3 month hiatus my skill would have dropped (preventing me from being able to beat it).

To reiterate, one's mastery of Touhou is more about skill/dedication than it is about how long you've been into the franchise. I've known people on pooshlmer that got into Touhou a few months ago and are already attempting lunatic mode. I on the other hand have been playing Touhou since old /a/ and I still cant 1cc SA or UFO's lunatic mode.

>> No.4506405

>>4506395
There's still arcades in the present. I used to pay coins just to play BlazBlue at those place. Shit, anything on arcade is hard.

Now I just play it on PC.

>> No.4506429

>>4506403
Dedication = time imvested into the GAME

>> No.4506430

>>4506403
>how much time has been invested.
>It's more about how often you play.
Aren't you basically saying the same thing as him? Nobody thinks you can get good at Touhou by playing once and then waiting for a year, are you dense?

>> No.4506435

>>4506403

Yeah that's time dude.

By time I mean how much you sit there and really work on your skill, investing long hours into the game, not how long you've been playing for. I was not saying that you naturally get better over time like it's some auto-leveling mmo at all.

I've been playing shmups for a long time too and I'm still not that hot at them because I can't be fucked practicing. I can appreciate what it requires to become more skilled though.

>> No.4506438

>>4506429
Not really because if you've been playing Touhou on and off since 2005 your skill will not be any better than someone who's been playing the game actively since 2010. Touhou is more about focusing and reaction time than it is about memorization. Simply memorizing spellcards is not going to stop you from getting game over on SA's lunatic.

>> No.4506440

>>4506438

What if I have no desire to go above Hard or even Normal?

>> No.4506441

>>4506385
i haven't tried SoEW normal yet

forgot about EoSD, it'd be between PCB and UFO

as for SA, powering up isn't as easy as MoF, bombs (depending on character) don't deal as much damage and the patterns are just plain harde

>> No.4506452

>>4506438

Really what is the disagreement here?

>> No.4506453

>>4506438
>Simply memorizing spellcards is not going to stop you from getting game over on SA's lunatic.

It however will make you the perfect IN scorerunner!

Honestly if you are playing the easier games and solely want to survive Touhou really is 50% reflexes 50% luck and memorizal. There's a single MoF card you need to go against with actual skill, even on Lunatic. PCB is even worse, you can bomb pretty much everything and only need to learn stages/a few easy patterns. I honestly find S1/2/3 much worse than 4/5/6 on PCB because I can let bombs loose without regrets on the latter stages whereas the first three kill me repeatedly with bombs in stock.

>> No.4506461

>>4506453

Sigh. Just about the only accomplishment I have in PCB is I can consistently perfect the first 4 stages and 3 bosses.

The only thing stopping me really is my own incompetence.

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All men are NOT created equally you twats. If we were to count up how much tries it took us to complete the scenes in the later stages of StB, not one amongst us would be the same. This is also true for all sports (and games in general). Blaming your short comings on your lack of dedication is lazy. Maybe this genre isn't your thing. Try playing a MMORPG or something. I heard in those games skill doesn't matter because they allow you to level up over *time. Unfortunately for you secondaries there's no such thing as leveling up in Touhou. You either have it or you don't. Though in theory a monkey could write a novel if given enough time. Good luck, because you're going to need it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem

/hidden

>> No.4506495

>>4506440
Then you're a secondary and suck at videogames. Not a problem if you have no pride in this hobby though.

>> No.4506499

>>4506478

What the hell are you rambling about?

>> No.4506518

>Simply memorizing spellcards is not going to stop you from getting game over on SA's lunatic.
Memorizing the stages and spellcards is really (nearly) everything you need to (be able to) 1cc SA Lunatic.
I doesn't even matter if you bomb in the first 3 stages, bomb every (harder) card of Orin's, die (because you had 0.XX) and continue bombing.

>> No.4506520

>>4506495

Educate me, oh mighty NEET loser.

>> No.4506522

Play danmaku in free time, otherwise I go back to my huge walls of text.

>> No.4506523

>>4506520
>calling someone a loser on 4chan

>> No.4506526

>>4506518
Horseshit.

>> No.4506527

>>4506499
I don't think he's going to replying since
>/hidden
suggests he hid the thread.

>> No.4506531

>>4506499
He's being a troll.

A good one, though.

>> No.4506532

Lunatic...why torture yourself?

>> No.4506536

>>4506527

A fire and forget troll then.

But seriously people with that attitude need to fuck off so no sleep lost.

>> No.4506541

>>4506532
Street cred. Bitches are all over me once I show them I can 1cc SA Lunatic without focusing.

>> No.4506554

>>4506541
Girls still don't talk to me even when I play in front of them ;_;

>> No.4506562

>>4506554
Can you no-focus 1cc SA Lunatic?

>> No.4506580

>>4506541
That's smalltime, only when can you no-focus, pacifist clear with ReimuC, then you might just get a few turned heads.

>> No.4506593

>>4506527
I find it amusing he hides the only thread thats actually somewhat related to Touhou gameplay.

>> No.4506602

>>4506562
No but I should be good enough for their dumb minds!

But seriously all people say when they see me play is "wow you must have good reflexes" or "holy shit you should join the airforce dude" (true story). They all say things that sound at home in youtube comments and it's annoying, I don't like playing around others because of it.

>> No.4506644
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4506644

>>4506006
Respective replay: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=7478

No-bomb run: http://replays.gensokyo.org/download.php?id=6678

>> No.4506689

>>4506644

Am I high or are the bullets in the final image totally moving?

>> No.4506704

>>4506644
Since it isn't brought up in the picture, it's clear that all of Youmu's noncards are aimed at you. If you don't believe in abusing loopholes then keep in mind the static part of the pattern so you can repeat the same set of movements.

Let's stay you're up against her first noncard. The obvious position is to start in front of her and take it from there. Whether she moves left or right depending on your position it'll always be the same distance, and so you can prepare another general set of movements based on her new position to you which probably won't be straight down like in the first wave. The movement Youmu follows when firing the arrowhead bullets I'm unsure about because I never bothered to take it that far, but micromemorizing the entire attack until it times out should be a possibility. Either case, she should already be down before firing her second set of green/orange bullets.

>> No.4506776

>>4505203

IN runs perfectly fine in wine (Better than pretty much anything I've used it for.) in many distros and the nixx torrent even comes with a PoL patch. You have no excuse.

>> No.4506803

>How does /jp/ do it?

See the gaps, not the bullets.

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