Elona and Elin thread.

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Little sister's nightmare edition

Previous thread:
>>44784403

Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw
New child mechanics guide for plus: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin Demo 9.10: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BXxcK0t1zkJFn-5mVaX93OabUFJKrVnO/view?

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Cute doggy!

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>>44977176
Can we underground settlements in elin?

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>>44977786
*make

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>>44977786
Noa's youtube has a video of him digging under the town and z-levels are a thing, so I'd say its likely.

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>>44978230
Hopefully it's not as janky as the stairs in elona

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>>44977786
I think it's possible but you still have to access the overworld tile first

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>>44978230
Got a link to the video?

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How do you go about catching pets above monster ball level cap?

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>>44980181
youtube.com/watch?v=EA58DFsoMbY&t=315s

Two year old vid, but the timestamp is just before he digs underground.

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>>44980502
Thanks, and that is very nice. Unironically hyped for z-levels, especially in conjunction with functional base building that goes beyond being cosmetic. If I'm understanding right now only would you be able to build functional structures at your base, but you'd also be able to have upper and basement floors at your base. One thing I'd definitely want to explore once the alpha is released is how deep you can dig and how high you can build up.

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>>44980666
I don't think we will have upper levels, playing the demo I haven't found them. Also I don't recall them in any video.
The underground seems like a different tile you can access so you might be able to dig even deeper, but I don't think the same system will work when building up

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>>44980800
It might be in the works, I mean doesn't elona have them?

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>>44981178
kickstarter.com/projects/noacat/elin/posts/3893445

Positive z-levels confirmed. Non-walkable tiles = sky tiles.

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>>44980800
One thought I'd like to add is that although I think it would be fun to keep digging down and expand your base that way, I wouldn't be surprised if underground z-levels actually didn't count as part of your base, or if there was a line of separation underground where it's stops counting. Stuff like that probably will be something where I'll just have to wait for the alpha to see how those nitty gritty details work.

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>>44980494
These days it's all about giving birth to your own kids

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What are the chances that elin will get tossed into early access this year or early 2024? i don't even remember if noa has said anything regarding the estimation.

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>>44984369
Alpha for high tier backers mid-dec, beta for backers 2-3 months after, public EA 2-3 months after beta.

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>>44981263

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>>44984369
Here you go

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>>44987927
Ah so it's literally just like Elona then

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>>44988293
Well, except in Elona you couldn't create new zones vertically by digging or building. Honestly separately loaded z-levels instead of all of it being continuously loaded was what I was thinking it was from the start.

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>>44988359
I'm curious to know if the ground will still be visible as a sort of background from one of the upper zones.

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>>44988429
They might, but I wouldn't hold my breath on them doing that instead of having blank sky tiles. Also positive z-levels might really just be exclusively in buildings with multiple floors. Otherwise I'm not sure how positive z-levels as entirely separate zones would mesh with the hills and shit. Going down it's easy to just dig a hole as stairs down and generate a flat underground area and do the same if the dig down again, but up seems like it'd be more complicated if it's not just floors on buildings.

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>>44988487
The z-levels answer Noa gave was referring to buildings. I don't think we will get them for Hills

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>>44988590
Yeah, exactly, the hills and other uneven terrain counting as the same surface z-levels, and positive z-levels just being when you go upstairs in a building. Also I'm reminded of something where, It probably won't happen but once I saw there would be different elevations I immediately imagined if wings/flying actually allowed anything like 3-dimensional movement.

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>>44988602
It's not impossible, Qud slows you to fly up holes and such with wings. If there's no map above you, you're brought to the overworld.

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>>44988631
Bringing up Qud does also remind me of how in that game you could have a flying state where you're actually in the air outside, and you can't be attacked in melee unless the other thing trying to melee is also flying.

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>>44988631
I don't think you will be able to walk on the next tile if it's to high. Maybe with wings you will though.
At the end of the day the tile is still treated like any other, only that it cannot be accessed from all sides

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Has he said anything about fixing the perspective?

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>>44988974
It's isometric, that's not changing.

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>>44989316
The isometric camera is fine, I'm just wondering if he noticed how it is sometimes difficult to gauge the distance when fighting enemies.

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What's the formula behind what level of npcs you can use rod of domination on?

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Can anyone explain what's the whole deal with this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntXT9usByDw

Says it's an Elona Mobile 2, but it's currently being beta tested in Taiwan. Publisher "JYSGames" should be the shell name(?) of the Elona Mobile publisher LTGAMES when they want to have beta tests for their games.

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>>44992791
They really went off on their own tangent with this. Besides a few ui elements looking like Elona mobile it hardly looks like Elona at all.

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>>44992791
Hopefully noa got some money from this

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>>44992907
Translating the title through ChatGPT did give me the title "Elona: Hero of Another World" so you're probably right on the money there. Another interesting find is that, after using said Chinese title as a search term, it gave me a Facebook video that showed the game being in the testing phase since 2021, so the game has been indev for a good while.

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>>44992916
Grand and intoxicating innocence.

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>>44993899
I just want the man to be properly rewarded

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Oracle said there was an artifact in the nefia I was in but I never found it.

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>>44993944
He's the one who gave it away like a retard.
What I want to know is if/when Elona will finally get ported to a modern engine. Godot could be a good choice.

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>>44994441
It was actually a different nefia with the same name.

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>>44994459
It already has been. Ruin0x11 rewrote Elona 1.22 in C# as opennefia. There have been multiple previous abortive attempts in other languages like Java.

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>>44994643
I mean a proper port, not failed attempts.

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I should evolve pet as soon as possible right?

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>>44994459
Damn useless government agents, can't even save him from the chinese

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>>44994791
They literally asked him if it was okay to do it and he said yes.

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>>44993944
He has half a million USD, one third from foreigners and two thirds from Japanese judging from the likes on the KS posts.

He'll be fine.

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>>44993147
I think they say Elona:Hero of another world in English somewhere in the video or description. Though besides even the setting seeming completely different most of the menus they go through and stuff like that they're doing I just have no idea what's going on, and I say that as someone who's rather thoroughly played plus, omake, and mobile. The systems in place besides the shortcuts in the bottom right that look like Elona mobile are so removed from any version of Elona I don't know what to make of it.

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>>44995003
>half a million USD
That's fucking nothing when it comes to game development anon.

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>>44995529
For a big game company making a triple A game with bleeding edge graphics half a million is nothing, but for a small team making more of an indie game with very simple graphics that money goes a lot further.

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>>44995757
It actually does not. A million dollars, itself, only goes so far to pay coders, composers, artists, directors, etc. Super Mario Bros 3 alone cost 800k to make.

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>>44996343
You think Nintendo is a small indie team? Do you think Noa has directors, composers, and all that other shit hired? Honestly?

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>>44996391
His team is himself, Rusty, NZ and two Jap pixel artists he hired off Twitter.

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>>44996548
5 people. The average salary in Tokyo is 4.2k a month. That barely gets him two years.

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>>44996561
He's definitely not paying the Twitter artists full salaries, and who knows how much of how little he's paying himself and the other two.

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>>44996658
There you go making assumptions again, trying to insist that a measly, pitiful 500k in today's dollars is fine.

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>>44996720
Have you looked at artist commissions on Twitter, or know how artist commissions work in general? You don't pay them a full salary to draw some low res pixel art. Also Noa doesn't depend on the Kickstarter money to eat, he was doing fine before that with whatever was paying for his essentials before that. How Noa is developing a game really is entirely separate from how games are made by corporations. I'm actually surprised you haven't brought up marketing costs yet.

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>>44996750
>Have you looked at artist commissions on Twitter, or know how artist commissions work in general?
One off commissions are a far cry from salaried work.

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>>44996779
Twitter artists don't do salaried work. If any has any kind of confirmation they are hired with a salary I'd be shocked, but typically how it works is they are commissioned to draw specific things and that it. It could be more than one thing, but it's still on commission with limited scope instead of being a full time employee.

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North Tyris?

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>>45000473
Looks like it to me, what is that from?

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>>45000566

From this one >>44992791

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>>45000624
Huh, I actually thought it might have been, but I had doubts since it seemed like that game wanted to be nothing like Elona.

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>>45000473
Any idea what those lock symbols are doing next to everything?

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>>45000694
I mean, it's less and less recognisable. There's a desert in the middle of the continent and all the cities have lost their names to be replaced with generic "snow village", "capital", "harbour" etc.

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>>45001281
Ah, I can't read that. All I saw was what looked like all the same towns in roughly the same locations on a continent that's shaped like north Tyris.

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>>45000473
South west tyris

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>>45001498
You decide where you draw the line, but from what I've seen so far it's passed into them wearing the Elona name as a skin suit territory for me.

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world map

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>>45003442
That's definitely nothing like Elona.

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>>45003755
There's an official world map in Elona, drawn by MT; you can see it in-game and on the wiki. The continents are kinda sorta in the correct place but otherwise it doesn't match up.

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Can you somehow get large quantity of broken vases beside wilderness spam?

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>>45006611
Checked the pot for fusion recipe list? you can in theory get a unlimited amount of 'em that way.

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>>45006838
In particular, using the other products of the Junk Make recipe (and little balls from the cyber dome, which are infinite and free) in the recipe again lets you easily get as many of a particular junk item as you need.

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So who's going to be the big bad of elin?

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What's you opinion on ocean content?
Did a lot of fishing boat trips to level up cooking on new character and and I gotta say I never had that many herbs and potential potions early on.

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>>45018461
Trade ships can be random, but when they carry something you want it's always in large quantities.

Main attraction is trivialising karma.

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>>45018869
They are random but there's a lot of merchants and fishing spots(I dump cooked and uncooked fishes in my shop) so you always get something out of trip.
I didn't like it at first when I tried port kapul but afterwards I went to lumiest and it's very good, the layout there makes it's much easier to check few merchants and get like 100+ fishes in minute or two. Also very good if you believe in Ehekatl to max out favor right away.

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This is my kind of dungeon.
Everyone inside is my younger sister.

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>>45022426

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>>45022426
>all that corpses
You wouldn't waste your little sisters would you?

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>>45036494
Well, I used it to make North Tyris a much better place

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This made me laugh for some reason

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>>45022426
where did you get this omake

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>>45036654
https://jbbs.shitaraba.net/bbs/read.cgi/game/58103/1615638898/994
Here.

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>>45036710
thanks

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>>45036638
Give her a raise

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>>45036717
I personally don't recommend that version anon. The main feature of mma is the custom world, which is in japanese only.

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>tfw 192 hours
>still hasnt beaten act 2
>i still have no idea what the fuck are half of the mechanics even mean
>still grinding my 6 tagged pets so they can use all the spells possible
>museum autism
>farm autism
>store autism
i am not going to beat this game am i?

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Fug :DDDD

>>45036799
Thats normal lol

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>>45036799
Yep. Far too many people are content with fucking around, which is why the experience penalty was implemented to "encourage" people to play his fan fiction.

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Post cool items.

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I am going crazy, why am I slower by 25?

I've tried to restore body, I have light armor, I don't have any equipment debuffs, and I've spammed cure corruption but the speed debuff
I have the your body is complicated debuff but that's never impacted me before.
what the hell is going on

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>>45043326
>why am I slower by 25?
>I have the your body is complicated debuff
sounds like you figured it out

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>>45043371
I've reverted to an old save when I still had the debuff but my speed wasn't as affected, here are the stats with no equips on, I have the +15 speed buff from the feat but I can't seem to reconcile the speed difference.

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>>45043589
Complicated body is 5% penalty for every extra body part above 13, up to 50%. The more speed or body parts you have over the cap, the more the absolute penalty.

Riding negates it completely.

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>>45043755
I meant to say that in this save I also had the same amount of body parts without the speed penalty.

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What's causing the doesn't know what to do spam?

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>>45041010
am i doin it rite?

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>>45045146
How do you get those? All I know is the pornographic books you get as junk from fishing. Is there a version where you can use them to get porn books of specific NPCs?

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>>45045287
I don't even remember where'd I found them. it's from my third omake save files, which is from 2018.
Those pornbooks are most likely come from wishing for it.

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>>45045392
One more question I have after seeing that. How do you have so many melee attacks? Is there a way in Omake to add extra hand slots or is something else giving you all those?

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>>45043961
I can see at least two potential problems. The most likely cause is that you aren't handling 100% of possible cases. For example, if no one in your party is injured, your pet has at least 30% MP, weak and slow have already been applied, both potion spacts are on cooldown, and the target is 3 or 4 tiles away. The less likely cause is that targets over the maximum NPC range are causing the issue.
My off-the-cuff advice for this situation would be to insert "Target Distance > 5: Move (Forward)" as the first line, and "Target Distance > 1: Attack (Ranged)" and "Target Distance = 1: Move (Away)" as the last two lines. That ought to stop the spam, even if just as a stopgap solution that you can tinker with afterward to suit your own design.

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>>45045436
>The less likely cause is that targets over the maximum NPC range are causing the issue.
I felt like this could be the cause because she freezes up in the arena and never even gets to the part where she throws things.

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>>45045427
wish for "racechange mutant"/ "race change mutant" during early game.

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>>45045490
Nice, now I'm trying to remember ways to seeprun getting a wish as soon as possible in a run. Was inheriting a rid of wish or something similar possible? Maybe just rushing to Noyell and hoping the holy well feels generous?

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>>45045470
Ah, I was afraid of that. You'd think that in that situation it'd drop down to "Target Distance > 4: Move (Forward)" and execute that as the first valid action, but Custom AI can be unpredictably finnicky in my experience. Unless your pet has self-buffs to cast or you want some kind of "flee at low health" routine to override it, I'd say you should always put "Target Distance > 5: Move (Forward)" at the top.
You might also want to add a distance check to casting Healing Rain. The manual has an example of how to do it with Healing Touch:
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4

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>>45045606
Just save scum well in vernis ww

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>>45045606
>Was inheriting a rid of wish
It's not precious so it should work in theory.
although I'll never played any gene char in elona at all, so I can't relly help you with this.

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>>45045606
Rod of wishing can be inherited, I've done it before.

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>>45043814
There's being wet, which either slows you down or speeds you up depending on your swimming skill. Water tiles, rain (even in open dungeons like forests), water spells, being hit by potions and more can all get you wet.

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koyori is too loud

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>>45048001
Right, however in both save files I made sure that I was not wet. Maybe I never had the -10% buff to begin with and the most recent patch finally noticed me having 15 limbs lol

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>>45048001
>>45043755
>>45043371
I finally found out what was causing the higher than normal speed, it was a high potion of soma that wore off after I died.

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Any place where i can look for touhou sprites? Looking for alice/shanghai in particular

Alice PCC sprites and shanghai pet/NPC sprites,i have some but curious if more exists

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a fucking billion years in paint

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>>45055441
the idea of that tiny alice on the right cranking out those massive dolls is terrifying

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>>45053656
Have you tried looking on elona uploader and pixiv? there was also some moongate with 2hu cnpc you can download.
and also this artist:
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=5164226&type=illust&p=2
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=99003&type=all&p=6

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>>45056076
Will check it out,thank

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>>45056076
Is jack still making stuff?

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What's gdata.s1 file responsible for? I lost power while playing and it got corrupted.

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>>45057278
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/EloSnack#gdata.s1

[Anonymous No.]

Need younger sisters. More of them! More damn it!

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>>45064340
My sisters are too strong for you adventurer

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fellers any help with this?

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>>45022426
how yall make the game look like this

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>>45068007
south of the graveyard?

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>>45068339
might be imma check

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>>45068007
It usually helps if I edit the mask in the game assets to increase the view area and get rid of all the noisy white dots. There also are fairly few completely blank spots on the map.

You can use * to scroll around the entire world map from your location, that helps a lot.

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>>45068339
spot on brother thank you
shit loot tho

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>>45070257
i did not know that my brother, thank you

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>>45070308
Should've waited for a lucky day

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Will Eyth be the void's superboss in elin?

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>>45074469
I have doubts that Eyth will be any more present than in Elona, but it'd be interesting if they were.
>If Elin was before they were completely banished
>If in Elin you could make offerings and gain favor with Eyth, but nothing happened until getting a really high amount of favor where something special happens
Or like you said, as a boss fight in the void. Anything along any of those lines would be fascinating. Though unfortunately as far as I'm aware not very many details are known yet about what's intended to be in the game or not like that.

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>>45074613
I mean NZ already drew his current form so there's a possibility for more Eyth content

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>>45074671
Even if not in the base game, I'd love to see a mod about it. Maybe even involving the base building stuff.
>At first don't get anything for making offerings to Eyth and can't pray
>Until you fulfill requirements like having high enough favor, having enough followers at your base converted to Eyth and performing a ritual
>Then Eyth is able to have influence in the world and maybe even be summoned like other gods

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>>45074671
Eyth has a unique altar you can see in construction mode.

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>>45075259
Oh, nice. That'll be interesting to find out how it's implemented in the game.

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>>45075738
It's not in game right now, but the only other unique altar in the demo is Mani's in the cyber dome.

The unique altars are unconvertible IIRC.

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>>45075967
Right, so we're definitely going to have to wait on getting questions answered about it's implementation. Like where is it/how do you get it if you have to build it yourself or something, are there any special ways you're meant to interact with it outside of how normal altars work, or what does Eyth accept as offerings if you indeed can give offerings to Elyth at this altar.

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>>45075967
They are stealable yes?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any way for me to search for name / comments on sprites on the elonauploader site?

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>>45082439
I don't think you can

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>>45082439
https://files.catbox.moe/zidk40.csv
a bit outdated though

[Anonymous No.]

October update. Some pretty interesting stuff.

kickstarter.com/projects/noacat/elin/posts/3945954

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How you do guys make your game look that good? My resolution looks shit, my fonts look shit, the sprite looks shit.

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>>45045607
>https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AnnaBannana/New_Features_in_Elona_Custom_1.51.4
This should probably be in the FAQ/beginner's guide.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you use custom riding PCCs? how do you get your custom walking PCC to actually show up while riding?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to start a mage character, is Lich still the best start because of the obscene PV/DV multiplier or did something change in the last 10 or so patches ?

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>>45097575
Now that DV and PV fixers exist, any PV or DVmod under 200 can be considered to be 200.

This is almost all base racials outside of, say, fairy's 250 DVmod.

Lich is still an ok pick for the 140 mana, but it has lost its multiplier advantage.

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>>45098180
Thanks. I think I'll just go for Elea, the critical weakness to fire and low Life isn't really worth the 140 Mana in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it worth using living weapons as main weapon for damage? Thinking about what to give to my crossbow pet and I have living one but no well rolled godly/miracle.
Still somewhat early game.

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>>45099648
They're the best you can get early on, as long as you take the effort to max out your preferred elemental damage and don't waste levels on anything else.

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>>45098480
Life can be bought at Leold, and fire resist is one of the easiest to compensate with gear. Mana, though, has no easy source.

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Game crashes whenever I try to modify the "value" section of companion AI. Tried to edit the AI in notepad but the 4th number doesn't seem to work the same as the rest.
Any help on fixing the crash or fucking with the files?

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>>44996779
lol stfu moron

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>>45105570
happy halloween dude

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Does anyone have a list of (potential) shopkeepers? the one at the wiki is horribly outdated.

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>>45113050
What variant are you playing?

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>>45118275
The latest ElonaPlusCustom-GX.
At the end i ended up mb'ing a zombie queen and a kusosugi,so that gene file will have a competent shopkeeper

[Anonymous No.]

How are stats of kids picked? Deciding if kids or astral pen for some npcs with recruit penalty is better.

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>>45123464
Stats of kids made with SEx are always that of a level 1. This means their imo can go lower than what Maile can do.

SEx kids also get 400 points of innate resistances based on the gene donor races and a free quality up.

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The best shopkeeper I had so far was one of my pets that I trained myself by just letting it join me for performing sessions and just general pet stuff.

Its a cute fairy, I had him trained for bow usage but later down the line when I didn't need the herb seeds anymore (thanks to better quests in CGX) I replaced my old farmer with it.

He's making me around 500k-1.5m a day and I kinda struggle to keep his store stocked. but like, a dungeonrun or 5 more levels in the voids is a little over 1m at this time. I'm already at the point where money is no issue. PP is.

Now if there were a way to convert gold to plats I would have no such issues.

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>>45127869
Sure you can. Buy growth scrolls and bless them.

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>>45128530
Except as a solution buying any specific item from shops is pretty unreliable. In fact... It feels crazy I didn't think of this before, but it'd be great if in Elin we could have shopkeeps with more consistent inventories of what they sell and the ability to buy large quantities of things.

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>>45132693
specialty orders akin to reserving books at the mages guild?
>delay between request and arrival, only one active at a time
>upcharge like souvenir shops
>higher quality items locked behind investing
fund it

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>>45132693
Generally maybe, but souvenir shops reliably have growth scrolls stocked after sufficient investment. Get all 3 to level 130 or so and they'll have more than you have cash.

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Nya~

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>>45136229
Scut

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When did they implement the card game? This rocks!
Anywhere i can look up info about how the fuck it actually works though? (keywords, what card does what etc)

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>>45136553
Too new for the wiki

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>>45136553
Die pepecancer

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>>45137718
You first weeb
>>45137655
Some things i can deduce, like the mana system and obvious keywords, but it seems like a magic/heartstone hybrid mostly, not that I'm complaining

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a good way to narrow down the search if you're looking for a specific NPC? Trying to find a werewolf detective

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>>45136229
this game is gonna be great

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>>45144759
This game is gonna come out in 10 years

[Anonymous No.]

whats the best way of counteracting the penalties from switching gods?
Im almost maxing yacatect and when i do i wanna go mani
anz thoughts on this

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>>45148940
>switching
Here lies the problem, just be loyal

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>>45148973
i want a lil robot tho

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>>45148940
Kys

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>>45148940
Just ignore them, they aren't that big of a deal.

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>>45148940
-25% speed and PV for 2000 turns is trivial. Just go fish or something.

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>>45055441
Just need a Marisa pet now, and you're ready to drink vomit for days.

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>>45144759

[Anonymous No.]

Praise Eyth!
Love Eyth!
Contemplate Eyth!

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have a full bodysuit PCC?

[Anonymous No.]

How much content is actually in the Elin demo? Is it an hour long thing, or a week long thing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45154196
Roughly 2 hours, unless you're into autistic building. There's not much plot or adventuring yet.

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>>45155065
There is some plot when you successfully go down the first story dungeon but yeah not much else.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone has the latest OOMSESTepNC. Discord link is broken.

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>>45156393
https://github.com/Ruin0x11/oomSESTepNC

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>>45157103
I gave up. The tutorial told me to copy longint.dll but there none in /src folder...

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>>45149724
eyth is old news
Mani is all the rage now

[Anonymous No.]

Made my dick glowing because it was firefly mating season and I thought it would be funny and the Wriggle author had actually put in lines about it lmao

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>>45169348
Wrong thread sorry.

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>>45149657
where is this screenshot from?

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>>45167663
Nah

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>>45167663
Dripped as fuck

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For me it's cozy house

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>>45186280
The smaller houses are neat. Palace really is too big, if not for the item and servant limit I wouldn't care. As it is I wall off most of the palace and make a cosy house.

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>>45188954
you know you can just replace all the tiles and make a cozy house with a MASSIVE garden area around it or some sort of mini town

[Anonymous No.]

>>45191430
How do you replace the overworld sprite though?

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>>45128530
not the perfect solution for debris training, but its a solution...

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>>45193143
Debris now gives potential, anon. Enough to continually use them, at any rate.

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>>45191911

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I could swear there was a somewhat recent Beautify version that added cool new area effects for ball spells, but the ones I can find now only have polished up generic animations. Did I actually imagine it?

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>>45205776
It's a toggle,misc' tweaks -> use CGX arrow,bolt ball spell animation

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Might do shiny later or tomorrow,only vaporeon,umbreon and espeon got good shiny sprites

[Anonymous No.]

https://files.catbox.moe/5q2u44.zip

Didn't see this anywhere else, so I'm dumping an interface that was linked by one of them yukkuri channels. I think it looks very pleasant! No idea who exactly made it, though. Channel in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajycg2jqzWA&list=PLdv2a6it9Ai3PFQfQVzBvn-2zp7fpbjn6&index=1

>>45208410
ooh, nice.

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decided to be lazy and only added one pose for the shiny version

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>>45206348
Somehow I completely forgot about it after transferring to a newer version, thank you.

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>>44977176
Did plus changed maintainer? what happened to the original guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45217986
Same thing which happened to all the previous custom guys. Ruin0x11 fell off the face of the earth.

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>>45218543
Doesn't he have other projects to work on?

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>>45219829
I don't know. Everything on his Elona got repos hasn't been updated since he vanished, decompiler, opennefia, whatever.

Sometimes people just ghost, like the steam friend who says to see you tomorrow but hasn't logged on in 8 years.

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>>45193394
The thing is. I usually pop one when I boost the skill it trains to 300%+ and that is enough for the skill to grow at least 5-10 times.

I swear beating act III made the game feel like its overdose mode.

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umimya~

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>>45240813
Total snail death

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Anyone playing Omake?
I was wondering if there's a way to use single sprites for PCC, or if I need to make a body sheet no matter what. Having a single 48x48 custom sprite would be great.

[Anonymous No.]

Were there any changes with astral pens or are you unable copy your own summons? I got my alchemy and anatomy low enough for my undeadgod queen to be way below required level and it still says insufficient level.

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>>45240813
I started playing for the first time a couple days ago and snails are really cute.
I tried playing a little with a gamepad but I wasn't able to select diagonal actions in the radial menu thing, skill issue or software issue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44992791
>>44992907
>>44993147
The mobile game isn't canon so we can kind of, not give a fuck about it.
Also, the chances of a semi-obscure mobile roguelike with P2W becoming massively succesful till the point it obscures the actual prequel (sequel) from what it was based from (Elona) are grim as fuck. So we are safe, they are not, from themselves and their decisions.

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>>44994643
TBF, Java usually sucks for very expansive and somewhat open world-like games, just ask the Minecraft Dev Team.

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>>45006216
TBF, Elona lore outside like 3-4 continents has never fully been expanded upon, and might actually never truly be explored if Noa upholds the "last game and I'm out" deal.

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>>45148940
What the fishing guy said but stack up on food beforehand just in case.

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>>45244442
I mean there's a possibility they'd get expanded upon in Elin

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>>45244367
Probably both.

[Anonymous No.]

Playing +CGX and for some reason out of nowhere the game has just started occasionally hanging for anywhere from 2 to 10 seconds when a menu opens, the map changes, or a spell hits. What causes this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45247555
New computer?

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>>45247555
Try disable network in the settings. Happens a lot for me because of my shitty ISP

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>>45247913
>>45247990
It somehow resolved itself.
My theory is that somehow addiction broke something in the outdated version of the game I'm playing. It started around the time I smoked a cigar and ended around the same time I stopped getting the distraction debuffs.

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>>44977176
Check the official /jp/ server
https://discord.gg/gfFqXzDq

[Anonymous No.]

>>45253245
>shitcord

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>>45248384
People actually use the drugs?

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>>45257052
I was testing it because I found one and didn't know what it does, I don't think I'll ever use any of them again.

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>>45257052
After realizing he'd fucked up Ano nerfed his own creations into oblivion. The addictions are hardly a threat now.

There's still no good reason to use them given that there are far better buffs and sources of stat xp, but they were always meant to be rp tools.

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>>45257923
>Ano nerfed his own creations into oblivion
Haha that's our Ano alright

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I'm playing vanilla custom to force myself to finally complete a run before elin. I got and blessed a scroll of incognito, had an incognito spell ready, measured the tiles on the guild map to make sure I had enough time to get my skills and escape alive. I spent hours gathering 70 platinum, return spell ready and timed. Alarm blares, savescummed after getting ganked by the guild, scummed more to teleport next to trainer; can't talk to hostile trainers.

why the fuck does the wiki say:
>It's quite useful for obtaining skills that are only taught in guilds, but can also be used to hand unopened wallets and luggage to guards when your karma is too low (-30 or below).
When it got patched out in 1.16
Holy fuck i've done this multiple times over the years in plus before internalizing that it won't work. Playing vanilla I just assumed I could trust the wiki, I'm not even that mad just a dazed.

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>>45259770
Use incognito after the alarm blares, anon. That's what turns everyone hostile. Not before you enter, common mistake.

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>>45260267
Thank you, feeling pretty great and relaxed now.

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Are guilds making a comeback in Elin?

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>>45269123
Yes, we will also be able to creare our own according to the Kickstarter goals.

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>>45269123
The three old ones are still around, and a merchant's guild offering unique goods and trade expeditions will be introduced.

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>>45269414
Custom guilds? how would that work?
>>45270357
Can we set up caravans now?

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Where do pets pull from for the green messages that appear above them? I setup a custom talk file for them but they're just doing the default "weeeee" They do use their correct messages if I talk to them.

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>>45272728
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Weeeblord/txt_template_(data/talk.txt,_data/st_talk.txt,_data/oo_talk.txt,_user/talk_folder_etc.)
>To use tone files, follow the template file sample.txt (there's not much explanation which tag did what but the tag names should be self-explanatory), then from inside the game 'i'nteract with your ally and then 'Change Tone'.

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>>45271821
No idea on both questions. Details have been short.

Alpha's in a month or so, we'll see then.

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>>45273297
Another alpha? is it available for non-backers?

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>>45274198
Just the one alpha only available to backers, the proof of concept demo is entirely separate.

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>>45274219
damn

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it needs to be next month already.... i want the kickstarter alpha....

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>>45281308
What's the difference between the public alpha and the backer one?

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>>45283156
the public build is from god knows how long, the alpha build will basically be where noa is up to now, it's basically early early access, so whatever he updates they will also get.

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>>45283187
The backer alpha definitely better not be as barebones as the tech demo. The tech demo doesn't even have magic.

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>>45283187
The public build was Alpha 9.10 yes?

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>>45283208
i'm pretty sure he specifically talked about having magic setup in one of the kickstarter update posts but i could be remembering incorrectly
>>45283215
yes

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>>45283217
I should just add the kickstarter to next thread's op so people can read themselves.

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>>45285952
I'm surprised it hasn't been put on the OP yet

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>>44977176
this game is way too hard

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>>45293285
This game is piss easy what are you talking about?

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Movement in Elin feels so janky in the public alpha. Noa better fix it before release

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>>44977176
Cute doggy!

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>>45301795
Your dog have wings dude

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>>45303830
According to Google translate of the combat log, it's "Marilith's nightmare of being alone". No idea what that means, but it sounds fun.

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>>45293334
If you play it frequently and know the ins and outs of course lol

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>>45306517
What are you having trouble on?

[Anonymous No.]

Higher ground will apparently matter in combat.

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>>45310360
I'm also seeing the magic section there the one in the bottom left there is a definitely levitation spell of some kind. Wondering if characters could free float above the ground has Bering something I was wondering about since the trailer in the Kickstarter. Instead of floating just being a bit that hardly comes into effect and doesn't visually change anything or really matter in battle.

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>>45310360
What I'm also seeing is the magic section there in the bottom left there is a definitely levitation spell of some kind. I've been wondering if characters could free float above the ground since the trailer in the Kickstarter. Instead of floating just being a bit that hardly comes into effect and doesn't visually change anything or really matter in battle.

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>>45310360
What does it affect?

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>>45310700
It doesn't really say, but accuracy is the most obvious thing and it wouldn't make sense for it be something else instead.

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>>45310360
I hope that new spell icons get added, I can already see myself getting confused by all the same looking ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>45310433
That symbol looks to me more like a poison or acid cloud.

[Anonymous No.]

I just started playing Elona a few days ago. It's soooo much fun. I've been playing + but am interested in OO and Vanilla. Does majority of the player base play +?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45315124
English community tends to Plus Custom GX. Japs overwhelmingly play Omake. Vanilla is for the occasional odd purist.

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>>45316149
What's the difference between vanilla and omake balancing-wise?

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>>45321599
Progression is about the same, until you get into breaking the game with thing like teaching a dozen Itzpalts to spam harvest for you, or blacksmithing nonsense. Scaling is much higher, for example you can raise your innate stat cap to 99999. There's also meta progression you can achieve by killing Zeome while under certain restrictions for the run, like how no death gives all future characters the ability to self revive with books of resurrection.

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>>45310360
Are we actually getting z levels or did the dev actually decide to throw them away?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45325653
See this >>44987927

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>>45327378
Aw damn

[Anonymous No.]

Where can I find the "longit.dll" file? I only have a .lzh and .hsp file with the same name.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45327378
I can live with that. Can't imagine it being easy to do a yuge world with consistent z levels.

[Anonymous No.]

oomSESTepNC or plus for begginer

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>>45334583
plus

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>>45335706
ok but why

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>>45335709
Progression is a lot faster, the rate of xp income is a lot higher and potential is handed out like candy. For example, Omake platinum training costs follow vanilla in being uncapped and giving 15 to 20% potential per session. Plus gives 100% with a capped cost of 5 plat.

Plus throws such an ungodly amount of xp at you that there are 3 custom gx tweaks to revert the xp changes. For a noob, it means an easy time.

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>>45334583
https://rentry.org/8vkaw#faq

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>>45331887
Any help, anons? I even went spelunking in the archives, but ended up with nothing...

[Anonymous No.]

HELL YEAH SEXY TIME

[Anonymous No.]

How do i unfuck myself from this situation without cheating? tapioca guy killed lulwy and inner lulwy popped out

[Anonymous No.]

>>45339371
Just kill her lol

[Anonymous No.]

ok so if cumtom gx 2.20 is to be installed upon elona+ 2.20 where do i get it?
most recent i can find is 2.19R

[Anonymous No.]

https://elona.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000046258

[Anonymous No.]

>>45343715
For u >>45343741

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>>45343742
thanks

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>>45343763
Did it work for u?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45344036
yeah

[Anonymous No.]

new kickstarter update, alpha will begin mid december for kickstarter backers that bought that tier

[Anonymous No.]

KS update, Elin alpha slated to begin in mid-dec, steam keys to be distributed to alpha backers over the next several days leading up till then.

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>>45349921
>>45350112
When's the full release?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45353034
who knows, it's gonna be in early access first

[Anonymous No.]

>>45353034
The Steam early access should start the second half of next year. For the full release we might have to wait a few years

[Anonymous No.]

>>45339371
Maybe tunnel your way around? Like walling off the stairs with the Make Wall spell, then tunneling to the next floor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45360013
All <>{} innately crush walls.

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>>45363095
Damn. Okay, hear me out: time stop ammo.
>get a couple of low-LVL party members
>shoot one of them with the ammo
>run down the stairs (the time stop will still be active) and make a break for the hatch, shooting your other party members that spawned in around the stairs up but are still frozen.
I don't know if you can use ammo boxes while time-stopping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45365105
Just tested it. It does not refill time ammo, so would potentially need multiple ammo items. :(

[Anonymous No.]

Can I still get the cannibalism mutation if I wear a fairy hat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>45372135
Any mutation, fairy hats only reduce the likelihood of getting one by 80% IIRC.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a point to use precious artifacts?

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a way to play Elin's alpha when it comes out if I missed the Kickstarter? I'd be happy to pay, I just hadn't heard of the game until a few weeks ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>45379568
Plenty. Some are ok bits of gear early-mid game, like mag-abyss. Some like sage helm and rasen are guaranteed sources of certain enchants. Some like sealed shield or cestus of meteors are excellent focused gear pieces.

>>45379704
No.

[Anonymous No.]

New bread?