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4480186 No.4480186 [Reply] [Original]

why does it feel like every single person in umineko could be the murderer or an accomplice?

is that the tragedy at the heart of the story? that everyone is a murderer or liar irl? or is it still that beatrice is just some girls love delusion for battler.

it feels like you could pull any theory out of your ass and it still be as plausible as anything else we can come up with..

>> No.4480194
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4480194

>implying everyone in real life has killed somebody at least once

>> No.4480202

What's the point of writing witches if the culprit is certainly human?

>> No.4480206
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>>4480194
>implying you don't perform coitus with your father

>> No.4480205

>>4480194

You killed your mother's hopes for you.

>> No.4480214

>>4480202
To make money.

>> No.4480217
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>>4480186
>it feels like you could pull any theory out of your ass and it still be as plausible as anything else we can come up with..
>implying that the theories we have right now are not "pull any theory out of your ass" theories

>> No.4480220

As long as Jessica wants Battler, I could give fuck all about the answer, it'll be fucking stupid anyway.

>> No.4480222

>why does it feel like every single person in umineko could be the murderer or an accomplice?

They can be. I feel like, because a lot of theorists here don't trust Ryu07 or anybody in the story at all, everything goes. The story should've been solvable by now, so..

>> No.4480240

>>4480222
The problem is we don't know how good Ryukishi is at writing, since he's so goddamn spontaneous with it.

He'll have short bursts of genuinely good exposition, and then FLASHBACK INSIDE FLASHBACK, THIS WAS CLEARLY A GOOD IDEA shit.

It's like watching chaos theory in action.

>> No.4480243

>>4480222

I think ryu07 is trying to troll everyone on every conceivable level of writing possible.

>> No.4480247

>>4480240
>chaos theory
Sam Fisher is the culprit

>> No.4480249

Just like most women have been raped at least once, most people in the world live in dictatorships/quasi-countries where you get auto-drafted right after highschool and go off to war against whatever is the enemy du jour. So yeah, the vast majority of men have killed somebody. A great deal of them have raped somebody, too. Do the math.

>> No.4480253

give him a break
BT died before he could write the Erika end.
R07 now is going to jump the shark with the end

>> No.4480264

>>4480253
... BT confirmed to have built the original awesome setting for EP1-4, and R07 confirmed to fuck it up further after his death?

>> No.4480273

My theory:

Umineko is a series about trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.

>> No.4480274

>>4480264
Depending on how good EP7 is, I'm ok with claiming BT was the ghost writer.

>> No.4480284

Calling it now: Erika will return as a fantasy piece on Battler's side in EP7.

>> No.4480288

>>4480264
but ep 5 and ep 6 are great

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>>4480284
Ryukishi isn't good enough for that, Erika doing this face with "YES, BATTLER-SAMAAAAAAAAAA~"

It would validate whatever shitty end he creates.

>> No.4480308

The troll is that Ryukushi is trying to get us to feel bad for Beato, and yet, freely admitting she slaughtered tons of people.
That's the true troll.

>> No.4480310

>>4480240
>The problem is we don't know how good Ryukishi is at writing
Try reading Higurashi.

>> No.4480321

>>4480310
I dunno man, I think Higurashi might've just been a set up for the real troll that is Umineko...

>> No.4480330

>>4480310
That suffers from the same problems, only slightly worse.

He actually learned to write a little better in Umineko, but it's still like an uncarved diamond most of the time.

>> No.4480336

Ryukushi is good at two things.
Trolling, and having ridiculous twists.

Like I said before, I wouldn't be surprised if next episode we find out that Jessica is BATTLER, Rudolf is the mastermind, and that Lambda was a good guy the whole time.

>> No.4480337

>>4480288
EP5 sure is, dunno about EP6.
Thing is, things got WAY MORE fucked up in those episodes, also including some parts of EP4.
While essential, the information given out in those chapters was, well... badly delivered IMO.
I'm OK with Die Eiserne Jungfrau and Erika, though.
Perhaps a bit too mcuh OK with them.

>> No.4480338

>>4480336
>Lambda was a good guy the whole time

Lambda's neutral, bro.

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4480342

>>4480308
> implying Beatrice is the culprit

>> No.4480343

How translated is ep 6?

>> No.4480355

>>4480349

What the fuck

do they translate like a word a day

>> No.4480349

>>4480343
lol 3%

>> No.4480357

>>4480330
Personally I like Higurashi's writing a lot better, but putting preference aside Higurashi definitely doesn't have the same problems.

>> No.4480364

>>4480342
She's the culprit.
But she did it for love.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT COUNTS.
BRB STUFFING PEOPLE WITH CANDY FOR LOVE.

>> No.4480370

>>4480355
Witch Hunt is super fast compared to other groups.

>> No.4480372

Writing is bad but the ideas are great. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. If the ending is really as bad as higurashi he'll get b0mbed.

>> No.4480378

>>4480355
No, they just don't update frequently.
They probably are at least half-way through.

>> No.4480388

>>4480338
Epic popcorn save wasn't very neutral. Lambda sides with whoever is the most determined.

>> No.4480400

>>4480388
Lambda is Chaotic Neutral.

>> No.4480396

>>4480372
The ending will be HURR DURR BATTLER DISCOVERED TEH TRUTH.
META BATTLER AND META BEATO GO TO HEAVEN.
HURR DURR JESSICA AND KANON, GEORGE AND SHANNON WORKS OUT BECAUSE THEY'RE DEAD LOL SHKANONTRICE ARE THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE NOW HURR.

Juuza was Battler, Ange learns TEH TRUTH.

>> No.4480409

>>4480396
Also, Hachijou Touya is actually Asumu.

>> No.4480412

>>4480396
Battler already knows the truth. Wait, do you even read Umineko?

>> No.4480414

>>4480355
Ryukishi changed the resource layout for EP6, so I think they had to do some update work before they could start on the script.

>> No.4480420

>>4480396
Whoops, Battler already discovered TEH TRUTH, but he wins the game, and what not.
Shannon's reward for the cruel murder of her friends and "family" is to spend all of eternity with her true love(All three of them!).

Yaaaaaaay.

>> No.4480431

>>4480420
It could end as Juuza-Battler and Ange GOOD END.
But we all know the true ending:
Everyone dies.

>> No.4480432

>>4480412
read
>>4480420

I made a mistake, hence the whoops. Rather quick to accuse, there, no?

Although, that is one thing that annoys me. Battler shouldn't be able to be trolled anymore, and yet, he is. Goddamn.

>> No.4480434

I don't know if I want there to be a b0mb or not. I mean it's like I'll be disappointed either way

>> No.4480442

>>4480420
Coming soon: <red>Shannon is not the culprit. Shannon didn't kill anyone. This applies to all games.</red>

>> No.4480441

Umineko True End:

Everyone in Rokkenjima dies
Ange lives a shitty life

>> No.4480449

>>4480431
Which is retarded. Seriously, like, no, I'm sorry, I am not going to feel sorry for the murderer if she actually succeeded.
Waiting at Mt. Purgatory for her true love?
Bull fucking shit, she's a murderer who was charmed to the point of obsession by a shota when she was 12.

>> No.4480454

>>4480432
He was trolled because Erika tricked him into creating a logic error. Battler may know the truth of Rokkenjima, but Erika was a random element in the gameboard.

>> No.4480458

>>4480442
HURR DURR SHANNON DIDN'T DO IT IT WAS KANON.
OH WAIT SORRY LOL IT WAS BEATRICE.

>> No.4480462

>>4480420
>but he wins the game

But he already won.

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>>4480442
If that happens, then Moon-chan-as-culprit will be confirmed.

>> No.4480466

>>4480454
I understand full well that he was tricked, but you'd think he wouldn't be that retarded anymore, no?

>> No.4480470

>>4480454
Which means with her gone, he shouldn't be trolled again.

But as the heroine, he has to be trolled every episode, no exceptions.

>> No.4480472

>>4480466
> implying Battler will ever become competent

>> No.4480488

>>4480431
Addendum: Including Ange.

>> No.4480489

>>4480462
Really? For a winner, he sure is a loser.

>> No.4480502

>>4480454
Battler's very first time as a GM, and he has to deal with a crazy metagamer for an opponent. I feel sorry for him. An RPG is only as good as the PCs in it~

>> No.4480552

Genji is Kinzo and is the real culprit.

I will stick with that theory till the end.

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