Where do you draw the line when it comes to fanon? I'm talking specific interpretations you like/dislike and how much experimentation you can tolerate from fan works before it becomes too much.

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Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:09:44 2023 No.44645357 [Reply] [Original]

Where do you draw the line when it comes to fanon? I'm talking specific interpretations you like/dislike and how much experimentation you can tolerate from fan works before it becomes too much.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:12:06 2023 No.44645380 >>44645357 I miss him

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:14:16 2023 No.44645410 >>44645357 They have to at least generally follow how a character would act, at a certain point it's just an OC steeldonut wearing the face a hu

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:16:21 2023 No.44645433 >>44645357 Seeing characters differ themselves from canon doesn't annoy me, so it's really hard for me to hate any fanon content.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:18:00 2023 No.44645442 File: 73 KB, 246x246, 152451889612904679.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44645380 One day, the last remaining person here who still remembers him will stop posting and then he really will be gone forever.

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:26:13 2023 No.44645528
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I could get over some silly fanons like Sanae being a slut and Meiling being lazy as a gatekeeper, but i do not condone the existence of anyone who describes 2hus as lesbians or futas

Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:40:12 2023 No.44645672

Reading printworks has ruined my perception of fanon. I used to just play games and read doujins, but then I read official stuff, and my ideas about the setting turned out almost completly false. Now everytime I see fanstuff I just get this feeling of wrongness about it and can't enjoy it. I like canon less then fanon, but I can't go back to it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Sep 15 18:42:54 2023 No.44645687 >>44645672 Its the wrong mindset to have, the official stuff is obviously precedent but just take the fanworks for what they are: the artists interpretation of a character or the exploration of a concept that require fanon. Essentially, just have fun.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 02:53:16 2023 No.44649087
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>>44645410
I dunno, batshit insane depictions can be fun. As long as it doesn't take itself seriously and doesn't have an autistic following that pushes it everywhere, it's fine in my book.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 03:14:02 2023 No.44649216 >>44645357 If i like it its good, if i dislike it its shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 03:26:58 2023 No.44649305 >>44649087 Well yeah, fun things are fun. I meant for more serious works

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 04:00:33 2023 No.44649472 >>44645672 Was there any character in particular that was ruined for you?

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 04:08:27 2023 No.44649508

>>44645357
I avoid most of Gensoukomuten's works because they depict a Gensokyo that's... not, if that makes sense.
Like it's not even an AU like Mamange; where the characters can be said to play a role. His works take away the fantasy from Gensokyo and put them in a modern world despite the characters still being obviously supernatural. It lacks the charm of what makes Touhou, you know, Touhou.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 06:40:50 2023 No.44650207

>>44645687
It's just that when I read a fanwork with more or less coherent plot, I just want to ask the author if we read the same canon, because often times it's barely Touhou, they just use some general ideas from the setting and make something unrecognisable.
>>44649472
Most authors, even Zounose of all people, seem to portray youkai as much friedlier than canon, where you can count the amount of youkai who like someone, let alone a human, enough to consider them a friend on fingers and toes.
But if I were to take just one character, no one has hit me as hard as canon Reimu. I expected her to be an asshole, not an actual villain. FS puts all her actions and inactions into an entirely different perspective: she doesn't help people - she keeps them in line; her "befriending" youkai is 100% not a good thing; her friendship with Marisa almost seems fake, like she only hangs out with her to keep an eye on her, etc. FS in general puts alot of sticks into wheels of any brighter reinterpretation of the setting: you either have to ignore the Human Village entirely, or you have to ignore the question of "what if humans don't want to be here?". Besides, I used to assume that undisguised youkai were common in the Village, and that humans there knew that everyone at the stalls at the Hakurei shrine festivals and everyone who organised entertainment outside the Village were youkai, but apparently that's wrong too.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 07:50:20 2023 No.44650515
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>>44650207
>they just use some general ideas from the setting
Nothing wrong with this honestly as long as they acknowledge it.
Most people make doujins only to fulfill their own fantasies from certain concepts they like, whether it's from Touhou or something else but mixed with Touhou, even if the story appears to take itself seriously. They don't have obligation to write a "good" literature that has to follow the source material to a tee. They are not paid writers, just artists who like Touhou or some parts of it.
I doubt most artists actually pay that much attention to the whole canon by reading and analyzing every lines in printworks, nor that it would do anyone much favor considering even lore autists still argue with each other because of how vague the canon can get, while artists just want to have fun.

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>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 08:14:48 2023 No.44650631 >>44650609 Dumb lizard

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 08:18:12 2023 No.44650638 >>44645357 I have pretty high tolerances for fanon, I just compartmentalise it as someone's specific idea of how the setting works and enjoy it, while also enjoying the original. >>44645528 this one is based though

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 08:23:57 2023 No.44650656

>>44650207
>FS puts all her actions and inactions into an entirely different perspective
FS was deliberately written from Kosuzu's perspective on Reimu who looks up to Reimu as a cool and strong person, mind. We don't have any actually good perspective on Reimu from Reimu's POV outside the games, so FS is just as valid as WaHH and Suichouka.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 08:44:23 2023 No.44650746 >>44650515 I wish that artist still did non porn Touhou stuff. I used to love how detailed his shit was.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 10:27:51 2023 No.44651275

>>44650656
Even if it's written from Kosuzu's perspective, it doesn't means that Reimu's action in FS are invalid or "ambiguously canon"
If anything, Kosuzu's perspective in FS is making Reimu's role as lapdog more apparent because after all, Kosuzu tolerates more youkai shenanigans than your average Takeshi and Suzuki in the village

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 13:47:45 2023 No.44653304

>>44645357
Fanon is Fanon. Ranges from pad sakuya to futa giantess tenshi. None of them have anything to do with Canon.
If a certain fanwork is garbage i'll just call it shit and move on with my day.

The only "intolerable" thing is retards that bring their shitty favourite fanworks into discussions about Canon; see literally every single 'lore' thread here.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 16 13:57:29 2023 No.44653403 >>44645357 Futanari without balls.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 14:14:36 2023 No.44653595

>>44650656
Please reread my post. I haven't mentioned anything about other characters perception of Reimu, only only how her actions in FS change how she is percived in general in works both before and after FS.
>>44653304
The current lore thread is garbage, but at least two threads before it were fine.

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>>44649508
It feels like he already had a modern fantasy setting in his head and just used Touhou as a framework. All and all though his stuff is pretty cute, I can appreciate it even if it veers into heavy OC territory at times.

Anonymous Sat Sep 16 17:04:32 2023 No.44655111

>>44645357
Pretty much nothing outright pisses me off anymore. I have respect for when works remember things like the Dragon God exists and is an important player in Gensokyo's world and I'll be bothered if the characters become incredibly one-dimensional, but that's about it. I understand everyone reads into 2hu a bit different than anyone else, and there's always some characters creators just don't give a single shit about or know what to do with after introducing them to a game so they end up just getting 5 lines after their introduction, but I don't really blame anyone for that either because at least they tried and it's all self contained within its own work. I'm even okay with whatever schizo color-palette shit that one mobage did with Youmu.
>>44653403
However this is actually my hard line, all futa's should have big sweaty balls.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 02:25:34 2023 No.44658712 >>44653304 >futa giantess tenshi That's actually canon though, ZUN himself told me this

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 05:24:10 2023 No.44661380 My headcanon (for lack of a less tumblr word) for the girls is the same as their canon personalities except they also love cock.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 05:29:46 2023 No.44661406 >>44661380 So just their canon personalities?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 09:31:29 2023 No.44663175 >>44653403 >>44655111 underage AND homosexual (which is a demerit per se for a /jp/sie) futa with balls is new century trash VERY common with western artist due to misunderstanding of themes.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 09:38:41 2023 No.44663250 >>44663175 No. The futa will have balls. End of discussion.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 10:06:55 2023 No.44663533 >>44663250 suck my balls, dude

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 10:28:22 2023 No.44663753 The alarm only really goes off for me when it is really glaring and appears to be out of a lack of knowledge rather than a will to make something else with the character that maybe they thought would be neat.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 10:53:34 2023 No.44663945 >>44663175 >misunderstanding of themes The theme is whatever the artist wants it to be.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 10:56:13 2023 No.44663971 >>44663175 I've seen futa with balls doujins from like 15+ years ago. You've just been tricked by the chan into thinking it's anything else than people just liking balls.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 11:03:55 2023 No.44664046 >>44663971 >15+ years ago Time travel

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 11:27:25 2023 No.44664237

>>44645357
I just consider that the fanon most of the time does some characters more justice than source material. Makes them more enjoyable, too.
It's also fair to remember that Touhou wouldn't be what it is without the fanon and the permissive copyright permissions the series has.
I think we should rebel.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 14:13:20 2023 No.44665591 >>44645357 When it gets gay

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:13:56 2023 No.44666190

>>44650515
I'd probably be less upset about it if I didn't do my own fanwork before reading the manga.
More specifically, one of the first fangames I played was Gensokyo Warfare mod for Mount & Blade, so I got inspired to make a TRPG campaign in a similiar style, where players grow from weakly humans/youkai/whatever into someone influential enough to have some sort of estate (think SDM), and conduct all sorts of trade deals, diplomatic and espionage missions, armed (sort of) conflict with other groups, maybe even make your own incidents instead of resolving them and/or being random Reimu victim, maybe even get into conflict with other worlds like Makai, Moon or even Outside World.
I just needed more canon info so that I could portray everything more believably, so I got reading, and everything I thought was nowhere near how it was in canon, and it all went down the gutter. I usualy at least try to back up my fanon with canon in lore-heavy works, but that just doesn't work here. Now I doubt if what I like can even be called Touhou. I still like canon somewhat, but it's just not the same anymore.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:17:50 2023 No.44666234 >>44645357 Cutesokyofags are not really well-educated about lore in general and tend to dislike any interpretation that follows the canonical view such as Zounose

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:22:15 2023 No.44666280 >>44645672 I've been feeling that way since at least 2008. The closest I ever got to at least trying to capture the feel that canon Gensokyo was trying to do was fanfiction. Strong emphasis on try.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:23:34 2023 No.44666293 >>44666234 Zounose honestly both overdoes and underdoes it at times. The characters act way less like jerks, but are somehow even more immoral.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:29:48 2023 No.44666362 >>44666293 The best ones are >Hungry Tiger >Canni-chan >Last Supper >Goodbye Beast

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:31:34 2023 No.44666383 >>44666362 The one about Chimata also isn't all that dark

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:32:29 2023 No.44666396

>>44666293
Touhou is a shallow series in general and is really only popular because of the soundtrack and the large fandom it has, but the game and lore itself are mediocre, the characters are almost personality-less NPCs, so most people are gonna rely on additional fanon information

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:35:35 2023 No.44666432 >>44666396 I think the game is fun and the lore is good if you can ignore the fact half of what is good is just stolen straight from Shin Megami tensei. Otherwise, I do agree.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:35:52 2023 No.44666438 >>44666383 Some of them that are not translated, like the one with Tewi and her having to deal with the 80 pissed off brothers doesn't look like the usual guro porn.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:48:48 2023 No.44666568

>>44666234
>>44666396
Most Touhou fans seem to care about character designs, music, gameplay and mytholgy references (in that order) more than "quirky" dialogue and dystopic elements.
Hell, I've seen some people that still regard Gensokyo as some kind of utopia, up to justifying Fortune Tellers execution.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:53:12 2023 No.44666610

>>44666568
I actually wonder how anyone could consider it as such. Yeah the human village is well taken care of, and they don't seem to be found wanting of anything, either it be food or good health.
But even if you take away the youkai, it's still run by elite members of society, both the super rich and the powerful clans who are by far the biggest benefactors of the current order.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:54:53 2023 No.44666625 >>44666610 Only the Hieda Family and the Salt Merchant are wealthy in the human village

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:57:47 2023 No.44666658

>>44666610
>Yeah the human village is well taken care of, and they don't seem to be found wanting of anything, either it be food or good health.
Even that seems unlikely considering we know poverty exists. Reisen is still selling medicine, not just giving them away for free.

>>44666625
Presumably most Merchant families do pretty well since "Trading" 100% means "You work with Youkai". I mean, who else can you trade with?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 15:58:46 2023 No.44666668 >>44666610 I mean, if your only source of canon info is PMiSS and you're some kind of medieval primitivist, you might consider it a good place to live.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:01:48 2023 No.44666694

>>44666668
I think most people just assume it's like a medieval village with all of the bad edges sanded off. Expect, it's not. The only thing that seems to be somewhat sanded off is that they are generally friendly and welcoming to outsiders and generally less prone to just randomly burning people that are autistic of the like.

Poverty still exists. They even have a form of nobility on top of basically all being second class citizens. Health is way better... if you can afford it. Education is largely nonexistent. And while sexism seems to be mostly gone there is no reason to assume domestic abuse or rape doesn't happen outside of, again, the fact the villagers are generally pleasant people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:02:29 2023 No.44666704 >>44666668 Well, there has to be a reason why that rare outsider decides to stick around instead of leaving. Maybe the more natural way of living is tempting to some Japanese citizens who fell into wonderland.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:03:31 2023 No.44666710

>>44666694
Villagers live miserable lives concerned about two things only: Whether they're lucky enough to avoid youkai danger and whether they'll go to hell or heaven in the afterlife, the fact that there is a local Yama that constantly come warn them doesn't help their sense of doom, the Outside World deals with none of that shit either

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:04:28 2023 No.44666715

>>44666704
Any kind of "New start" can be welcome to some people. I would say most of the appeal comes from that, rather than anything specific to the Human Village.

Also depending on how you read Synopsium it's implied most of the people that stay do pretty poorly anyway.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:05:29 2023 No.44666721 >>44666710 Correct. I mean when the best argument you have is "Well, at least you know you are going to a good place when you die" isn't much of a consolation place.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:06:15 2023 No.44666729 >>44666710 >they'll go to hell or heaven in the afterlife You know, considering how the reincarnation cycle works, it's entirely possible that they might either reincarnate as outsiders in their next life, as youkai in gensokyo or as demons in makai

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:08:23 2023 No.44666743 >>44666710 I'm not really seeing that doom and gloom in any of the works. The village seems like a pretty pleasant place most of the time, outside of the paranoia that creeps in like the Mayan doomsday prophecy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:08:33 2023 No.44666744 >>44666704 >outsider Well outsider that choose to stay are pretty rare in the first place

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:08:59 2023 No.44666751 >>44666729 Forgot to add: as lunarians on the moon, but I don't think that happens often considering that the moon people probably aren't fond of reproduction

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:13:01 2023 No.44666781

>>44666751
>>44666729
Reincarnating as a human in the outside world: Depends, can be a decent life or a shitty life
Reincarnating as a youkai in gensokyo: Again, depends, are you born a powerful youkai or a measly youkai? In either case, you're gonna spend a lot of your life scaring schizo monkeys to live, but the pros are that you don't really need to eat nor shit to live
Reincarnating as a demon in makai: I have absolutely no idea about this one
Reincarnating as a lunarian on the moon: Basically jackpot, get access to advanced tech and magic, absence of diseases of anykind aswell as agelessness, just make sure to obey Tsukuyomi and don't sympathize with earthlings
Reincarnating as a villager again: Welp, better luck next time

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:14:47 2023 No.44666799 every fucking thread lately seems to be turning into this How Grim is Gensokyo Really shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:17:37 2023 No.44666822 >>44666799 Cry harder cutesokyofag, if you don't like it then go to other threads dedicated to masturbating to the girls

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:20:10 2023 No.44666841 >>44666799 A weak goddess like Minoriko could just walk into your farm one day and stomp all over your vegetables because you didn't venerate her enough. 2hus are assholes, especially when they get drunk.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:20:22 2023 No.44666843 >>44666799 It's definitely the same one or two guys.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:22:35 2023 No.44666866
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>>44666822
You know there is a middle ground between edgelord fantasies and hyper-moe stuff.
No one else seems to have trouble NOT shoving said hyper-edge fanon down the throats of anyone who cares to listen.
Just saying.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:28:29 2023 No.44666906 >>44666866 Most of the "hyper-edge fanon" I've ever heard mentioned in these threads turned out to be canon, so I don't think I can trust you neutrals about anything.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 16:31:00 2023 No.44666930 >>44666906 The only thing I trust you to do is continue to be a schizoposter who won't shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down after explaining how Alice is a metaphor for satan for the 50th time.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 17:34:08 2023 No.44667458

>>44666396
Shallow is a bit strong, but I get what you mean. I'll admit Gensokyo's status quo limbo can get stale compared to the free reign fanworks have, though I doubt there are many canon-only fans out there that absorb the official stuff in a vacuum.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 18:29:44 2023 No.44667896

>>44666729
For some reason I always assumed you can't reincarnate into a youkai because they don't have souls. 100% headcanon, I'll admit.

>>44666743
I would say it's less doom and just a lot of gloom. The slow creeping sense of a totally wasted go nowhere life with no escape or freedom.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 18:30:45 2023 No.44667901 >>44666866 >No one else seems to have trouble NOT shoving said hyper-edge fanon down the throats of anyone who cares to listen. Like?

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 18:34:12 2023 No.44667936

>>44667896
>The slow creeping sense of a totally wasted go nowhere life with no escape or freedom.
I think that is what is happening with the weak, low on the pecking order youkai right now. Kyouko and Mystia's crappy punk rock band started getting more popular because the sense aimlessness is starting to get to the general youkai population.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 18:36:56 2023 No.44667955

>>44667936
Youkai have the advantage of 1: More freedom. 2: Being totally delusional on average.

Hell, even in the case of Mystia and Kyouko their concerts are often visited by human village children. Let me repeat that: Human village children are so miserable they will literally go to a concert ran by a actual serial killer bird women.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 18:40:45 2023 No.44667997

>>44667955
>https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Symposium_of_Post-mysticism/Bunbunmaru_Newspaper_1
> At the time of this report, their concerts have already gathered impressive crowds of excited fairies and disaffected youkai.
No, it's definitely not humans.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 18:58:29 2023 No.44668153

>>44667901
Humans being killed by youkai somehow being commonplace and not the exception to the rule. DiPP is the bloodiest things will ever get in terms of humans getting killed off. In the manga, youkai make sure this doesn't happen for all their blustering to avoid setting off the powder keg.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 18:58:52 2023 No.44668158 >>44667997 I swear to god I remember it being said somewhere human villagers visited as well. Either way, it does make sense plenty of youkai would be disaffected even if they tend to be more delusional about their status.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:03:55 2023 No.44668202

>>44668153
It's heavily implied that it is commonplace for Outsiders gapped in by Yukari. DiPP, while you could argue it was retconned as the second release of it didn't have the gruesome story in the song's comments, is still arguably backed up by the cases of man-eating youkai both in former hell, and much less frequently in the rest of Gensokyo. Remember that Kasen's first response to Yukari saying she had a solution to Sumireko's whole "humaning away" in WaHH was to make sure that Yukari's solution didn't involve killing people.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:07:30 2023 No.44668233

>>44668153
>Humans being killed by youkai somehow being commonplace and not the exception to the rule
People claim that outsiders being killed is common place. Which, it is. Human villagers are mostly safe even if they are still pretty likely to die if leave the village. Which rarely happens since most of them are not that stupid.

The closest we ever get to a genuine implication that youkai murder villagers is Yukari using Zashiki-warashi as spies to keep track of what the villagers are doing. Even then it's pretty likely they'll resort to just terrorizing them instead of outright going for the kill.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:09:54 2023 No.44668250 >>44668202 There's also Marisa saying you pretty regularly stumble across corpses outside the human village.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:10:15 2023 No.44668252

>>44668233
the only reason Yukari's using Zashiki-Warashi to keep track of the villagers is to see if they're trying to elect a leader, which Aya states is the one scenario they absolutely want to avoid for the Human Village
it's nothing to do with killing people

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:11:55 2023 No.44668265

>>44668252
Okay, anon, what do you think she would do if they DID try to elect a leader?

Again, I'm not even saying they 100% kill that person. But the fact she's spying on them does not imply she intends to shower whoever crosses her with love and peace.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:12:57 2023 No.44668275 >>44668233 Even in the case where they do something stupid (Wander outside in a typhoon, climb up youkai mountain to go to the gambling den) youkai have interfered to keep them safe.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:13:34 2023 No.44668284

>>44668250
Yeah, but it's not always outsiders.
The first few chapters of the Fairy manga has a couple of villagers being killed by some really hungry wolf, and this isn't a youkai either.
Gensokyo is a nature preserve, it's not just the youkai that can kill you.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:16:32 2023 No.44668312

>>44668275
The smarter Yokai will try to help them (No reason to let good cattle die after all) but it doesn't always work. There are mentions of villagers being killed outside the village with, granted, occasionally debatable canon.

>>44668284
I actually recently had somebody speculate that a lot outsiders probably just starve or freeze to death. In general there are mentions, again of debatable canon, that Gensokyo can be pretty dangerous in general even without youkai.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 19:17:34 2023 No.44668327 >>44668312 *Within

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 20:00:00 2023 No.44668676

>>44668202
>Remember that Kasen's first response to Yukari saying she had a solution to Sumireko's whole "humaning away" in WaHH was to make sure that Yukari's solution didn't involve killing people.
I also remember Yukari being surprised, laughing it off, and being impressed by how dark Kasen's mind goes sonetimes, which fits her being a reformed evil oni.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 20:03:44 2023 No.44668710 >>44666799 It's cyclical. Fandom goes through these phases every five years or so. I just ignore it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 20:42:38 2023 No.44669115 >>44661406 You got me there

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 21:06:15 2023 No.44669325
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>>44645357
I mainly treat them as individual works and any gripes I might have with them would probably be a writing issue or something unrelated to touhou, because things like yukkuris may have characteristics of 2hus but are a completely different thing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 21:54:14 2023 No.44669735 >>44669325 Speaking of yukkuri I don't think I'll ever understand the abuse side of it. Is it just edginess + gurofags or is there some cute aggression aspect I'm not seeing?

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 22:07:13 2023 No.44669831

>>44668252
>>the only reason Yukari's using Zashiki-Warashi to keep track of the villagers is to see if they're trying to elect a leader, which Aya states is the one scenario they absolutely want to avoid for the Human Village
Its also to feed certain villagers that are too villainous or ambitious to youkai, outsiders are not the only food source of course

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 22:08:16 2023 No.44669838 >>44669831 source?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 22:09:11 2023 No.44669845 >>44669838 I believe it was Wahh, exact chapter slips my mind

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 17 22:09:31 2023 No.44669848 >>44669735 It's probably cute aggression or from what i've seen in some works it's a part of the story and plays into something else. One thing about the yukkuri crowd is that readers generally agree to disagree on abyuse and family friendly content.

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 22:17:31 2023 No.44669903
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>>44669845
I'm going to assume it's this panel you're talking about, but zashiki-warashi are benevolent spirits
assuming that the only solution is to feed random villagers to youkai is the darkest and least sensible way to take it, because it would become very obvious very quickly that villagers who are disappearing were the ones who had zashiki-warashi living with them. It's more likely that, as discussed earlier in the chapter, the zashiki-warashi warn the humans away from doing the things that would bring about the situation yukari is worried about before it can even happen, since reimu says that they can see the future

Anonymous Sun Sep 17 23:55:03 2023 No.44670573

>>44669903
In all fairness, Yukari's definition of "bad things" amounts to anything that would disrupt the exceptionally awful status quo of Gensokyo. Take her words with a grain of salt, especially when she's talking to Kasen, who had already made clear that she's opposed to the way Yukari does things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 00:11:03 2023 No.44670640 >>44669903 Yes thats the one, but the Zashiki aren't the ones that are leading them to death, its yukari who seems to set up the accidents by the implications of that scene. The Zashiki are mere the informants who spy on people and report bad people

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 00:15:04 2023 No.44670656 >>44645357 As long as fanworks are not trying to supersede or act as canon and it's not someone obviously driving their own ideology/agenda with their works, i dont give a fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 00:16:05 2023 No.44670660 Frankly, fanworks are often better than canon. Especially when it's some shit like Lunar Nights.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 10:05:48 2023 No.44673652 >>44666280 >Strong emphasis on try Didn't work out? What did you write about?

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 11:04:18 2023 No.44673943

>>44673652
Oh, I never tried to write fanficiton myself. I just read a lot of it. Did always want to run one of those choose your own adventure stories.

Most of it suffered from being self insert Isekai before that was a thing. But I do like the way it at least tried to follow cannon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Sep 18 11:06:34 2023 No.44673966 >>44670640 I mean, assuming Yukari does decide to go for murder she has tons and tons of ways to make sure people disappear in a way that leaves zero evidence. >>44670573 Pretty much. Though, she might also try to undermine organized crime.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 12:53:34 2023 No.44674844

>>44673943
>choose your own adventure stories
Ah, a Touhou-Project.com regular. I can see what you mean, even the darker stories there generally portray Gensokyo as quite nice. However, they got nothing on quests from shrinemaiden.org, that place is forever stuck in 2009.

Anonymous Mon Sep 18 13:01:27 2023 No.44674901

>>44673966
>Though, she might also try to undermine organized crime.
Not a chance, Tewi and Mamizou would have Yukari kneecapped if she even thought about interfering with their de facto yakuzas. Those two and Suwako are frankly more threatening than the Sages, Yuuka, and the Lunarians on a bad day combined.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 00:45:02 2023 No.44681539 >>44670660 >fangame Well, the bar is basically rock bottom anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 02:59:18 2023 No.44682330 >>44674901 >Tewi >Mamizou >Suwako Three matriarchs for aboveground beast yakuza confirmed?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 03:52:05 2023 No.44682598 File: 8 KB, 181x192, thumb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Total troonhou death!

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:01:56 2023 No.44683185

>>44674901
Oh, Yukari doesn't give a fuck about Youkai organized crime. But she would probably kill any human would be Yakuza.

>Those two and Suwako
Mamizou is literally the "Villain that thinks she's hot shit when she's only a minor player" of Touhou. Tewi and Suwako, to be sure. Mamizou? If she ever did anything serious she would get smacked down within moments.

Anonymous Tue Sep 19 07:05:40 2023 No.44683200

>>44674844
>Ah, a Touhou-Project.com regular.
Is it still alive?

>even the darker stories there generally portray Gensokyo as quite nice
Yeah, which is a idea that always bugs me. Like I said, western fan fiction got the closest but they tended to suffer from being self insert fanfiction.

>However, they got nothing on quests from shrinemaiden.org, that place is forever stuck in 2009.
Wait, THAT site is still alive?

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 12:46:41 2023 No.44685360 >>44683200 it's 'alive' as in on life support and someone is manually thumping on its chest to keep its heart going gets maybe one post a day, and maybe one story update a week or two

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 12:54:52 2023 No.44685419 >>44683200 >>44685360 From what I understand shrinemaiden suffered from a host migration/death some years ago, so a large part of the userbase bounced off the old address. THP's been kind of slugging along, but it's still around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 14:48:54 2023 No.44686169 >>44685419 I remember that. Admin died and there was no backup plan or access to the under the hood stuff. In general forums are a dying breed, no small part due to mainstream social medias and everything needing a discord.

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 17:43:20 2023 No.44687836 >>44666234 0/10 bait this isnt /v/, try harder or go back

>>	Anonymous Tue Sep 19 18:21:45 2023 No.44688071 >>44686169 It's a shame since I really liked the format they used for choose your own adventure stories. It was fun.

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