Elona and Elin General

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Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw
New child mechanics guide for plus: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin Demo 9.10: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BXxcK0t1zkJFn-5mVaX93OabUFJKrVnO/view?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44446968
>you rapidly breaks it down
Alright, that was easy to fix. One of these days I ought to look over item plurals; as far as I know crop management tools and memory fragments still need special cases carved out for them.

[Anonymous No.]

shena's ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>44448176
damn you could bounce a quarter off that

[Anonymous No.]

Everybody loves Shena's ass!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44448110
You one of the people behind GX?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44449663
Will he do an Elin video?
will this thread survive round 2?

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>>44451133
Doubt it, He didn't do an elona M vid, but that's for a different reason

[Anonymous No.]

How many potions of cure corruption will it take to fully complete the Pael and her mom quest?

[Anonymous No.]

today I will try omake

[Anonymous No.]

>>44452603
there's different exes to run which one is it UHHH

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>>44452272
I don't know. I always end up biting. Ask mr Fox for he's much cleverer than I!

[Anonymous No.]

When does Elin release so I can buy it? I missed the KS and want to support the dev.

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>>44452920
It's not known yet, it says 2023 on Steam but might not be until next year

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>>44452272
True to her dialogue, she will never be cured in vanilla. She remains a karma farm.

In plus she still isn't cured, but by act 3 the pain fades and she regains the will to live foe Pael's sake despite still looking like a monster. Assuming you didn't kill her or sell her to Moyer.

>>44452920
Closed alpha for backers in Dec, closed beta a few months after, EA a few months after that.

[Anonymous No.]

How do you farm cheap gifts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44455599
High level general stores probably

[Anonymous No.]

>>44455599
souvenir shop in that hidden town

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>>44457735
That shit costs so much money, how do people buy them in bulk?

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>>44457942
yactet i have 3 shops and 5m on me and im barely lvl 80

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>>44457942
Worshipping Yaca does not directly net you money. That being said, player shops are one way, as is trading cargo. Both take time to ramp up though, the first from shopkeeper ability and shop rank, and the second from buying cargo.

Another option is to play blackjack, gifts have been added as prizes

[EGG No.]

>>44457942
EGG
G
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>>44458139
>Another option is to play blackjack, gifts have been added as prizes
How many chips and win streaks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44458139
it gives you more drops from monsters. lots of money there.

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>>44458072
>>44457942
Speaking of money, my main limit to mad riches is that vendors have very limited money pools that take time to refresh.
Do i just Invest into Palmia Shops until they have a fuckton of money? How many LvLs do they need before them having 100k on hand?

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>>44458583
they will never generate 100k on their own.
Investing seems to be having a cap where anymore money given to them after that seems to do nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44458583
just buy. buy gifts and they will have the money to buy your shit. winwin.

[Anonymous No.]

Laplus not showing up again lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>44458606
What is this cap? How do you guys make mad cash if the pool is always that small?

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>>44459139
the cap seems to be around level 200-ish
I'm diving nefias, the higher the level the more cash it makes (that one has a cap too so I don't go in over level 1000), I have over 150m and already nothing to spend it on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44458150
>egg
>perma food
>goober rail

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>>44458150
alright this is pissing me off
If you can afford that then you can afford to just hold 5

[Anonymous No.]

I decided to stop before i get to impossible numbers
how do i stop

[Anonymous No.]

>>44458150
I know what I’m looking at, and yet I still want an explanation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44458150
what am i looking at

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>>44464173
A highway of egg factories. Not all of them have full pens, but I always have more than enough eggs to grab when I need an injection of gold.
Whenever I'm in need of money, I grab several hundred eggs, cook them, and drop them in my pet store.
The trick to cooking large amounts in bulk is to drop your cooking tool on the floor and hold spacebar while standing over it, so it automatically selects the tool and food.

[Anonymous No.]

Yet another "how do i farm X question"; Music tickets.
How many per Party time quest? What's the most efficient way to earn them?
Is the kidnapping children quest repeatable for this purpose?

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>>44448087
Hey anon, when using Beautify, do I just replace every single folder with the ones in the beautify files?, copy and paste and it's done?

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>>44468195
beutify does not fit latest elona i think, so you should compare the spritesheets before replacing. most other images are fine tough.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm too burned out from Elona, I think I'll wait until Elin releases

[Anonymous No.]

I believe that sound based spells should scale with and train charisma/perform instead of magic/casting.

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I have successfully tough two of my pets shadow jump. I have no idea why they can not learn shadow step.
Their will is 44 and 37 respectively. is that still too low? The action costs 27 SP.

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>you don't lose items on death now
"precious" my ass

[Anonymous No.]

>guild guard
>has anti teleport equip
well shit
>pickpocket, its asleep
>fail
>now needs to deal with guards too
should have used create wall

[Anonymous No.]

We can have airship homes in Elin yes?

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>>44470187
Exactly what problem are you running into? Are you unable to select the spact for learning, or are they just not using it?
Also, I thought Custom-G reverted Shadow Step back down to 5 or 10 SP? Does GX not do that?

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>>44468264
Do you know where these go?, I believe PCCs just gets unloaded in the folder with the same name while not replacing it, but I can't find the portraits or tone files folders. Do those get dropped into graphic folder and that's it?

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>>44480902
Also, these have to be decompressed, right?

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>>44480913
yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>44480902
if tone are speech they should go in user/talk and portraits... are they evochat portraits or profile portraits? the latter go to user/graphic

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>>44481156
Done, so, do you know where these catalogued as NPC go?, there's a graphic2 part in user but that seems to have story related images. Also these seem to replace or overwrite regular NPC portraits (npcs that respawn from the looks of it) but I can't find the actual original file that this is supposed to replace by deleting it first and just placing one of these.
Help?

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>>44482800
the folder in usergraphic is for individual portaratis. this replaces npc portraits, yes, beautify is about making the whole game prettier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44482845
No, I mean, where is the npc portraits folder?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44482863
in graphic folder there is face1.bmp and face2.bmp. those are the npc portraits files.

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where can i get more cores, aside from wishes? moyer the crook? souvenir shops?

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>>44448087
Is there an item to make yourself shorter and lose weight?, I accidentally ate too many Wonderland Soups and now my character is 7-foot tall and periodically grows more.

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>>44485296
cursed milk

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>>44485400
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.]

Any reason why Thread of Innervation doesn't kill summoned monsters?

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>>44486180
No clue what that item is but could it be because summoned monsters don't reward exp? I've never used that skill before but google show's the snippets saying using the skill can give you +10 meat or something, so if summon monsters provides no exp then skills like that might not work the same too.

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>>44486288
It deals nerve damage and instantly kills targets at low health with a chance of turning them into flesh dolls (rank 10 food). Could be a bug or a way to prevent farming flesh dolls from summons (but then why not let it kill them normally without generating dolls?).

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>>44486322
>way to prevent farming flesh dolls from summons
There could have been reduced xp gains from summoned monsters except you get none so I imagine it's the same thought process or however the fuck it's programmed.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe there are too many chains?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44488309
Where?

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>>44486561
Still, the reduced drops are unusual

[Anonymous No.]

If I want to make my happy bed lighter, I just need to use inferior mat scrolls on it? I got luck with the only BBQ set I successfully stole being paper (0.9s) and was wondering if I could make the bed similar.

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>>44494271
Yeah, you can do it with all furniture.

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>>44475732
dunno as a home but yes there will be airships

[Anonymous No.]

Wiki says town children don't respawn, but does it apply to Party Time too?
Or can i not Dominate/capture things during that quest?

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>>44502256
Welp, doesn't work sadly. I still mist ask: do children in Shelters respawn instead?

[Anonymous No.]

So is Elin going to be a 3 act game this time?

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>>44502870
I wouldn't put money on it given that said narrative structure is 2/3 elaborate fanfic. The design ethos is very different.

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>>44502544
A couple hundred music tickets and two plat per kid isn't worth it, man. A perfect party time is about 1k tickets. Pick up kids if you see them but there's no need to go out of your way to look for them.

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>>44508303
How do i do a perfect party time every time?
What is needed exactly to set it up consistently?
How much Performer skill do i need?

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>>44509659
Ensemble, a couple pets, and enough speed to get everyone. Prioritise uniques as they multiply score.

A full clear with everyone satisfied is 900-1100 tickets depending on who's present.

Another source of tickets is Leold's kill quest, but he stops giving them out at level 2000.

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>>44509659
If you have enough stamina, you can also use Houzanha to destroy walls before performing in case they prevent your Ensemble from affecting more people.

[Anonymous No.]

You've been faithful yes?

[Anonymous No.]

So I read that I should be able to take on the first two floors of lvl 150+ nefias and that only the boss is a bastard to deal with? Is that true? Should I be equipping myself/pets focussing on dvpv with equipment (besides rings?) and using food for res? If that's right, then is there any easy way to farm godly rings? Every destiny just gives me shit I have no need for.

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>>44516301
>is there any easy way to farm godly rings
Pot for fusion equip making. Takes the item you give it and produces 3 of them at a minimum quality of miracle, with a chance at being godly. Eats up a lot of materials

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>>44516344
I'll check it out, thanks. I'm pretty much only continuing on with this character to finish "learning" the game so I can try a full RP run and not get fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

What spells and skills are worth putting points into during lategame?
I can't decide after i got all the special actions i need.

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>>44519969
Meteor
Always Meteor

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>>44524233
But doesn't meteor kill my allies too?
What about skills instead? Anything to improve my spell power?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44524379
>But doesn't meteor kill my allies too?
Not if you use alchemical rain with a potion of resistance.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have a Guts PCC?
Beautify has a good one for NPC but not for various angles/PC...

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>>44529211

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I am still very new to Elona, but wanted to ask if there is a way to change gender/sex of allies.

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>>44529237
Fuck yeah. Cheers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44529237
Doesn't work....I exported it through gimp but it shows up weird in-game
How do you adjust the animation timings/distance between the sprite to match 2.08 setup?

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>>44529460
I think you need to manually edit them

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>>44529285
Give them some mystery meat

[Anonymous No.]

I took a quest to bring a bronze coin from point A to point B. After that I couldn't move, now I have a cheat way to train weight lifting.

Is there maybe a way to fix this without hacking the save file? shift I does nothing.

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>>44529852
Have you tried dropping individual coins from the stack?

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Best food to recover stamina?
Something that doesn't satiate too much would be awesome, but of course i can't pretend food is better than Soda/Blue Pills, unless there's a way to mass produce stamina restore drinks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44535473
Rice balls.

[Anonymous No.]

Can i gain AP in act1, and is it awarded only if i get xp from the kill?
Or can i use Mpoison or Tag Team to get AP without gaining xp?

[Anonymous No.]

So the only point of sailing so far is just being able to easily restore karma?

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>>44538445
Pretty much. I still believe this is not a bad thing, not expecting more continents but at least the water will have purpose and not just be useless tiles. Travelling already is a purpose.

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>>44538597
Oh I'm definitely not complaining about the easy karma. You can get +60 in fucking 20 minutes. It'd be nice if there was some special sea nefias where "the shifting earth created islands out at sea" or something, but any type of ocean travel would be hard to properly incorporate and probably couldn't be anything more than just land nefias you need a deed to reach.

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>>44537232
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/AP#Obtaining_AP
>The enemy killed must have an Attribute INI above 1000. Most enemies that fulfill this requirement will be above level 50 and appear in South Tyris.

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>>44537232
Same as the other dude
I only just hit south tyris (50+ lesmias) and only now am I building AP. It's not just S.T. but I just cleared my first lvl 60 dungeon and I for the first time gained AP (about 22).

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>>44538758
Well that doesn't answer my question: do i need to be awarded the kill and gain XP or in a Tag Team i can get it while not gaining xp? What about Mpoison/Sp deaths?

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>>44537232
You can, but it'll be fairly rare since NT mostly has weak mobs.

[Anonymous No.]

Imoutos everywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm at one of the last bosses and I lose around 15k HP from one attack, which is way more than what I have. What am I supposed to do

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>>44541264
You don't necessarily need to be awarded the kill.
MPoison deaths can sometimes result in consumable stones that grant AP on use. SP deaths can grant AP on "kill". Tag team kills can grant AP to both tag members. Necromancy kills don't grant kill xp, but they do grant AP.

[Anonymous No.]

Do children inherit limbs?
Or do i have to add to each one even if the parent got all body parts slapped on?
I'm trying to make the perfect Party Time pets using Pale Inviter for Gather and Termination Bell for insane speed, any better ideas?

[Anonymous No.]

Farming shades in awakened nefias by entering a floor, killing the shades that swarm you, going back up the stairs, and repeating, is such good exp. How did I not discover this sooner

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>>44545008
Oh nice, i guess the real problem is that in Act1 i can't find enemies worth AP at all then.
Any place i'm guaranteed to find some?

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>>44545063
There's always the void, I guess. Why do you want to farm AP in Act 1?

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>>44516301
>150+
Random or Awakened? Level means jackshit in random nefias, them unique bosses are way stronger than mobs even if they're outleveled by 50-100 lvls (you should be more worried with hordes of Kamikaze Yeeks and their ilk), but the mob bosses are actually strong since their stats got scaled up accordingly. Awakened dungeon is a whole different matter, but you can at least conquer dungeons of 3-5x your own level, though that's before the exp drop rate got buffed into oblivion some updates ago. Ironically, Awakened God race bosses (Atlas, Five-Headed Dragon, etc.) tends to be weaker than Awakened generic mob bosses (Bells, etc) because of their special actions. Picrel managed to finish (and kill off all NPCs in) Act 3 at around lv150 with all stats (except Speed, for obvious reasons) around high 100s/low 200s by spamming Lulwy's porn book, teleport, and dimensional fishing, then I went ham after Enthumesis. Pretty sure veteran players around here can achieve the same with less effort than I did with void pets etc.
>>44544783
Which one? Enthu? Chaos Child? Jaldabaoth? Have you used every buffs you got? Might want to switch your equipment to those with "it enhances your spells" attribute before casting buffs, it's pretty damn strong even for non-casters. If Enthu, spam walls around her, throw some porn books, and shoot at a distance. The other bosses are just scripted events desu, so just run.

[Anonymous No.]

Fastest way to teach my pets spells and skills? It seems to take forever.

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>>44516082
If faithful means I forgot all gods existed including my god Kumiromi, then yes. What does a god do besides giving a pet and item?

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>>44542313
What is a Two Young Girl? Is it a pair of twins a la Shining?
...What version is that anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44546251
Stat buffs, they also buff specific stats with how much a boost given scaling with piety.

[Anonymous No.]

Hey guys, I have a question. Is Elona BF a good version to play? It's not on the reentry guide but it seems like it's a 1.22 vanilla mod that fixes bugs left in that version.

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>>44548190
rentry*

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>>44451133
Probably not unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44548190
Why not try it and see if you like it?

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>>44549399
Well first of all I can't even find where to download it. The English wiki doesn't say and the Japanese wiki is in Japanese. Secondly, I've never played the game before so I wanted to know from someone who knows about the mod if it's a good replacement for 1.22. I'm very autistic about bug fixes and I've been heavily debating on whether I should play 1.16 or 1.22. If 1.22 BF is a good mod then I know my answer.

[Anonymous No.]

Where do people find good Evochat pictures?
All the old pastebins are dead, and they were pretty anemic besides.

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>>44529237
neat

[Anonymous No.]

What are the recommended tweaks for Plus-CGX?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44553572
I think I made some of mine in one of those picrew like websites, hang on, let me see if I can find it.

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know where to find "Elona Christmas Edition fix 1"? The only version I'm seeing available are the pre-patched version.

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/WAui7wz7OWo?si=4i2s6nHQa2RFWZ7c

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>>44559232
What happening?

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>>44559398
あああっビクンッ

[Anonymous No.]

It's my first time trying to do custom AI so I need some help. What's going wrong? Do pets have Sp or not? Why does half of casts just "doesn't know how to respond"? Enemy is standing in place.

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>>44559541
Okay I managed to find some info about this.
Will post in case someone else needs it.
https://pastebin.com/NDXnhJVk

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>>44559731
So, did you find out why it wasn't working? I'm NTA but it looks like it should work to me, pets shouldn't have SP and I don't see anything in Thread of Innervation's description that implies it can't be repeatedly used on the same target.

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>>44560450
Info from pastebin. tldr each pet Skill has it's own "cost" and "energy pool".

-> In case you didn't understand how Pet's Energy/not-Stamina system works, read this example: [>>18719681]
"Swarm cost 27 SP
You get energy pool of the size 5*(27/10), 13 (or 10 if its rounded down, unsure)
Every use of swarm uses 3 energy, every turn recovers 1 energy so effectively you can have ~7 turns of nonstop swarm usage before exhausting energy pool.
Each action has it's own separate energy pool, so if you alternated shadow step and swarm you can use one of those actions almost every turn, but will still exhaust energy pool during long fights. I use fallback attack(melee) or spell/debuff in the end in case if actions are on cooldown."

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>>44560450
Didn't NPCs get SP in Plus a while back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44448087
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>44566842
https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/blob/work_2.18/2.05-custom-gx/screen.hsp#L7030

Just change the "30" to "100".

[Anonymous No.]

>>44566842
Why is ano like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>44566842
>i will rrduce griding by nerfing the reward of the grind :)
Fucking hell nothing pisses me off more than when devs do this. Is it a total lack of self awareness or they are nust scared of the backlash of a nerf so they make up some excuses?

[Anonymous No.]

I can't wait for elin to blow plus out of the water

[Anonymous No.]

>>44567053
Noa: It's ok if things are a little overpowered so long as they're fun.

Ano: How dare you keep more than 100 plat.

Why big name modders inevitably become sacks of shot for every game is beyond me.

That being said, I don't expect plus to go away anytime soon because it's free. Elin is also more a JP thing judging by the ratio of JP and EN backers, they play omake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44566942
no way chang

[Anonymous No.]

>>44568030
https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/tag/2.18.1.0
>Added a tweak option to disable "exp modifier based on Main Quest Progress".

[Anonymous No.]

>>44568030
YOU WILL PLAY MY FANFICTION
AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY

[Anonymous No.]

>>44569739
I wish had a universal EXP multiplier so we could counteract this bullshit every time it happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44570617
IDK if it's a joke, but the point where the multiplier returns to 100% is just after act 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44572752
Didn't people use to complain constantly about how you outleveled the act 1 content too fast in Plus?

[Anonymous No.]

This is how my evolved nurse's AI looks like.

Can anyone figure out why it makes him confused if I go insane? He doesn't know how to react to the situation based on the instructions I've given him.

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>>44573500
Try preserving target.

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>>44572849
No, the complaint was that XP rates were too high across the board with the 1.90 changes, training days, and all the other XP tweaks.

The post game modifier now is 200% of the 2.17 XP rate, which makes the problem even worse.

It's a middle finger to people who want to ass around at their own pace and not engage with his fan fiction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44573547
Thanks for the quick fix, anon! That worked.

[Anonymous No.]

10 bump

[Anonymous No.]

This is not what I expected from my new year gift.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44579913
Surprise!

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any reason not to use the laser gun?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44583953
shotguns are cooler

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>>44542313
What UI interface is that? It looks nice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44590914
It's my personal UI.
I posted this before here >>/jp/thread/44236432#p44265752
My elona files are on my desktop at home, if you want it I'll upload it later

[Anonymous No.]

Are guns still worse than magic in the newer versions

[Anonymous No.]

>>44601128
Magic is still king

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone now if in Elin we will be able to build without restrictions like Elona or if we have to use materials? For example logs to build walls ecc

[Anonymous No.]

>>44607448
I think it'll cost materials, but from what I remember seeing Elin will have more of an emphasis on base building. So although it'll cost materials what you build will also have a lot more purpose and functionality rather than just decoration.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44607503
That's what I was hoping for. Thank you anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>44607448
It will cost materials. Wood wall for wood, etc, there was someone who made a mansion out of jelly from the corpses of slain putits. Even the dev creative mode just substitutes money for the materials so it's not free.

[Anonymous No.]

Does this do anything gameplay-wise?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44613919
No, it just changes the relationship descriptor.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it possible to teach pets Blame Pain or is it player-only action?

[Anonymous No.]

Is Elin being made on Unity?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44622039
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>44622330
Why does fate hate this game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44622330
Bye bye december alpha I guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>44622801
Noa has said on the backer discord that it's too late to change and that he feels unity is the right engine for the game.

So... no changes.

That being said he posted on Kickstarter that he's being hospitalised for butt surgery for two weeks.

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>>44623502
Should've lubed up better

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>>44579913
>Oh boy you now have to dote on m and clothe me and feed me and house me and take care of me, you are so lucky! haha!. Btw when is dinner?

Ur so lucky.
Also I see a changelog removed dropping things on death now. Are we still even playing the same game?

[Anonymous No.]

Have any anons tried gearing a speed hack cheetah? One gorillion speed looks neat

[Anonymous No.]

I check this general like once a year and I can't believe Elin actually has a release date.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44623940
I made her to be maid and never looked back.

>removed dropping things on death now
Fucking why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44622330
That's really suck, guess I'll stick with elona

[Anonymous No.]

Time to quit the mage guild.

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>>44627458
Ano's official reason is that he doesn't want fear of death to stop people from trying content. You can read it in his channeling.

Of course, it's shit and makes the already trivial game even easier now that you can get away with so much more sloppy playing.

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>>44628711
at this point, we might see auto win button in the near future

[Anonymous No.]

>>44628894
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Special_action_(Elona%2B)#Special_actions_unique_to_game_modes
The future is now old man

[Anonymous No.]

>>44629070
it was supposed to be a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>>44628711
it would be better to just add a way to get back what you lost through gameplay

[Anonymous No.]

Next update will add equipment insurance

[Anonymous No.]

>>44628538
How can you make an npc a specific shopkeeper like that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44629908
That anon is playing an Omake variant.

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>>44629828
I mean, he got rid of the death XP penalty too, so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44628711
Permanent item loss is stupid when you can spend days or weeks working on perfecting a single piece of gear. It should've been removed ages ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44630699
It would be tolerable if you could mark a number of items so they're never lost on death.

[Anonymous No.]

Is continuous attacks shit? I can't tell if pv damage reduction is calculated on each hit or not

[Anonymous No.]

Has Noa responded yet about the unity stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44638369

Allegedly: >>44623502.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44638486
Definitely hope that the people saying that Unity won't actually be able to implement the change and be forced to walk it back before it's implemented are right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44638627
Which change, the per-installation charge or the cheap license being removed?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44638740
I only heard about the per installation charge. Though I doubt they could remove the cheap license and then retroactively demand more money from people who'd paid for the cheap license.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44638811
I think it's more like they're going to automatically move everyone on it up to a more expensive license. With all the uproar around the installation charge, most people haven't even heard of the license bit, so they'll probably get away with it. Heck, some devs will probably only find out about it when they get charged more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44639167
God what the fuck were they thinking appointing that EA guy to CEO?

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

If I've only ever played as a range character and now want to play as a magic char then is lich/wizard the best or is there a better combo for someone who hasn't done anything other than guns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44647209
Is smoking good for you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44649040
Lich is definitely good, but I'd actually recommend warmage.
>Warmage trait in plus gives you 5% extra cast success chance
>Warmage starting stats helps your lich not be as squishy starting out

[Anonymous No.]

>>44649109
Will do. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.]

So.. uh.. how do I find the werewolf at lvl 5? Can I even deal with a werewolf at lvl 5? Both Vernis and Palmia have one..

[Anonymous No.]

>>44649761
Just look for the one that has a werewolf on their name

[Anonymous No.]

>>44649817
Is it different in CGX? I've talked to everyone in Vernis because I thought that was how I was told it worked last time, but there's no NPC's with werewolf and 3 I can ask "are you the werewolf," but last time I did that I lost the ability to ask anyone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44649847
I guess you need a higher stat or something, just ignore them for the time being.
Or vote for someone you don't like to get falsely executed

[Anonymous No.]

>>44649847
CGX fixes the NPC titles so werewolves are properly hidden.

Not that werewolves are anything important.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44651041
So I can just ignore them? I know the important NPC respawn so that's it?

How the fuck am I supposed to figure out the werewolf then? Just let them run free and forget they exist?

Fuck sake I create my first full roleplay character and get screwed with this shit. No shit like 500 hours in the game before.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44651073
Use your brain and vote the right guy then

[Anonymous No.]

>>44651344
In what fucking world am I supposed to understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44651378
What are you not understanding?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44651398
>talk to every NPC
>get multiple "are you the WW?"
>pick wrong
>"are you the ww" never shows up again
>next midnight
I'M LEVEL FUCKING 5 WITH WEREWOLVES IN VERNIS AND PALMIA
Reached level 9
LUMIEST HAS A WW TOO

Every fucking thing I've been told about werewolves seems to be wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44651491
Just ignore them for now. If a poor fucker got murdered, rush into the scene and take note of anyone near the blood puddle then vote to execute one of the candidates.

[Anonymous No.]

could the whole point of the werewolf be to farm statues & cards without having to use duelgloves

[Anonymous No.]

>>44658332
I thought the point was to get extra salary from voting.

[Anonymous No.]

Haven't been in this general for like 2-3 years. What is Elin?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44452644
the one ending in NC

[Anonymous No.]

>>44671018
New game that takes place before Elona.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44671018
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/noacat/elin
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2135150/Elin/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44671018
Elona with community building mechanics and an isometric point of view

[Anonymous No.]

What causes the "monsters appear from a magical vortex" thing to happen? I'm playing a mage for the first time and it never happened before with any of my other characters. Also it's just a random occurrence and has nothing to do with reading/casting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44672290
Have you checked your equipment?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44672300
Yeah, my dumb ass forgot about that until just then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44672289
Will the equipped armor be visible on the player?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44676149
Of course, why would it not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44677517
nta, but arms

[Anonymous No.]

>>44680351
What do you mean by arms? weapons? gloves? either way both are visible.
That said the early access lets you choose what sprite you are going to use independent of your equipment irc

[Anonymous No.]

>>44672289
I thought this game was just about running an inn.

[Anonymous No.]

If my purpose is just farming Music Tickets and nothing else, given 1000 Performance and 2000 speed, is it better to use Stradivarius?
Ensemble is faster and adds insane Performance, but is it still better for getting tickets even in the very end game compared to a Stradivarius strategy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44690199
In plus custom I noticed there's a tweak to allow sharing tip money with pets when using ensemble. So I like using it for that reason since it's another way to get the pets more money for training.

[Anonymous No.]

Should I be saving skill points for characters as they level up and then dump em or spend them periodically according to what im using?

LVL 18 Elea Wizard ATM
all tips appreciated

[Anonymous No.]

>>44690382
Just spend em on what you expect to be using forever. No point in saving them, especially since they also raise the potential a little iirc. Not sure if experience bonus days count towards it, but you should do it on matching days if it does.
Same with spell points, although make extra sure you dump them on spells you plan to be using even in end-game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44690482
thanks
do zou think it would be good to dump at least a little on literacy since im mage build, to get good spells?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44690482
I'd beg to differ here in that trying to have plenty of bonus skill points late game is a good idea. Though I'll admit I don't have hard numbers on it, it seems to me skills benefit more from having bonus points spent on them the higher level they are and benefit more from the potential boost when the potential is low. Plus the potential boost from it bypasses the higher platinum cost of restoring potential with a trainer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44690626
I've never played a dedicated mage so idk how much that'll help early on. I only touch on spells in act 2 or 3, and by that point travelling's levelled it up quite a bit and I have a few pets that can carry me with the Reading Party ability, so I've never had to pay attention to literacy/memorization.

I figure you may as well though. It's early enough that Iit'll probably be worth it, especially since you probably don't have reading party and good pets yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44690679
Yeah, those are the same lines of thought I used when putting off spending them. I ended up with thousands of unspent points, and looking back I felt that it would've made life so much easier if I had just spent them. I'd have gotten to where I was so much faster, and as a result would have gotten a lot more endgame grinding done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44690680
im working on a pet through prayer, im with the god ow wealth since apparenlty its good for getting ancient books to join mages guild, it has a decent pet too i reckon

[Anonymous No.]

Hey everyone, turbo newfag here. Coming after watching Seth's video. I'll see you around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44690116
It used to but Noa decided to make it the sequel

[Anonymous No.]

>>44692666
*prequel

[Anonymous No.]

>>44691347
good luck, and don't get filtered by the UI
>>44692666
I wish he at least improved the world map instead of copy pasting it

[Anonymous No.]

Elin won't have multiplayer? That seems like a wasteful opportunity.

[Anonymous No.]

Every game ever should have multiplayer especially coop even roguelikes and porn games

[Anonymous No.]

>>44693166
Game's still in an alpha state so with enough feedback, he might change it

[Anonymous No.]

Moon gates making a return would make more sense in a game focused on base building, and seeing other people's death messages has always been fun. co-op is probably too much to ask for in a completely turn based game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44693732
How would you even make a co-op roguelike game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44693751
Aren't there already a few? Like Spelunky.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44693751
Same way you make any other co-op turn based game?
Although Elona in particular has a lot of openness to it that wouldn't lend itself well to coop. Lots of turns spent on 'unimportant' actions, so constantly needing to wait for the other player to finish their turn would become a pain when doing something mundane like running between shops.
Drop-in coop could work practically. Join a friend's world during important moments where each turn matters, like bossfights and story dungeons, or for pvp and whatnot.
It'd never happen, but it's fun to think about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44693812
It would be cool if you could chat with people and then spectate them to see what they're doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44693812
One option is to allow to setup In-Combat AI for your own character so each time you do action your ally does AI action and same when your ally player does some action. When not in combat you just skip turn when ally does something. Can be a bit annoying but not something that can't be fixed with a bit of voice comms.

The only way it could work probably.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44693812
>>44697143
a Dragon's Dogma style rental system would be neat
>send one of your followers to other players worlds with fixed equipment similar to an NPC adventurer

[Anonymous No.]

>>44700508
The KS campaign confirmed that copies of players will be pulled to populate cities. No info on hiring them, but you could tame/invite just about any npc in the demo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44701634
That reminds me... I wonder when and how they'd copy player characters. I think it'd make the most sense for them to do it at character creation or something rather than continuously. I just see major problems with having post game super high level copies of player characters running around in other people's games. Maybe it wouldn't be so bad if there was some kind of cut off to stop copying their character or if the copies were very hard to turn hostile so it wouldn't happen on accident or anything like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44701685
>>44701634
>equipping my PC with cursed gear that summons monsters and teleports me randomly everytime I sync myself online to cause chaos in other player's worlds

[Anonymous No.]

>>44701685
Mobile managed high level player copies running around with minimal problems. I don't think it'll be an issue.

[Anonymous No.]

A backer posted the ref pic he sent to the devs for his custom god on the backer channel.

Link because it's 10mb.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1115660751055622154/1151823749813903432/cZ9TkpI.png

[Anonymous No.]

>>44702087
Heh, nice. I wonder what she'd be the goddess of?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44702087
>dude literally put his waifu into the game
God, fuck those 2 guys who ditched last second.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44700508
Finally I can have multiple <Hard Gay> from other players

[Anonymous No.]

>>44702208
Those are probably rusty and 001-san

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone know any other custom world not listed on this site?
https://elonacworld.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E5%85%AC%E9%96%8B%E4%B8%AD%E3%81%AE%E3%82%AB%E3%82%B9%E3%82%BF%E3%83%A0%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%89
I've been having fun with hourai custom world lately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44707646

[Anonymous No.]

>>44710097
>hourai custom world
what's that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44444444

[Anonymous No.]

There a beautify pack for the current plus?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44710636
https://elonacworld.wiki.fc2.com/wiki/%E3%83%9B%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%82%A4%E3%83%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%83%89
You need elona mma version to install it and understand Japanese properly if you care about story, quest etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>44711826
mma?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44711901
Elona wiki is your friend https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/MMA

[Anonymous No.]

can derphy slaves turn on you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44712566
They are considered pets like any other.

[Anonymous No.]

What moveset should i breed and give to Guardian god pets with the new child system?
Homing lazer worked, but DAMN is its sound effect loud and slow as fuck.
Ideally i'd just like a "guaranteed damage, no matter what" ability that they can just spam, since they already heal and Protect when needed.
I already checked the pasta, id still like to know what's my best option here given the above (and which mob to take the moveset from)

[Anonymous No.]

>>44717948
How about Melt Clinch or Acid Hurricane? Nothing can resist acid damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44722588
Good idea! But does it have friendly fire? Or how much Control Magic is needed to never be hit by those things period?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44449663
Tourist jewlover

[Anonymous No.]

What would be the best mount period in the ultra-late game?
I guess Speed (obviously) and HP are the most important stats, but what ridable pet has special skills or features that make them better than others, given equal stats?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44730151
If you're on Plus, none. You'll get to 2000 speed very easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44730490
If that's the case, then only abilities matter, since all pets will eventually get to 2000.
Does the C-horse bitflag increase max speed while mounted or does it just make it easier to ride the thing?
Also i've found out about Garziem, a rivot that uses Boost and takes 33% reduced damage from everything, it even has the c-horse bitflag.
However, the Black Seraph (evolved Lulwy god pet) has Speed, Boost, and Lulwy's trick.
Is there a way to breed Lulwy's trick into Garziem (say, a mob that naturally has it)?
If not, what would you use between the two?
Finally, is there a cap on BUFFED speed? If not, 3 buffs may be better than two buffs and damage reduction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44730576
Remember that speed has diminishing returns from not just the reduced damage taken and increased damage dealt by slower boss mobs, but also the turn ratio is capped at 5:1. So much speed is pointless and even counterproductive.

Unless you're using the CGX tweak that gets rid of the retarded balancing, but if you were playing CGX you'd be using custom AI.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Best tag team partner for the PC?
Something that constantly heals/buffs maybe?
Bonus points if it fits well sprite-wise

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any ways to always have enough SP?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44734388
Hydration. Increased libido from ether corruption for +20% stamina.

[Anonymous No.]

cgx's new card minigame seems pretty fun.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44736617
I hadn't heard of that. Can you win prizes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44736617
How do you initiate them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44743428
no prizes, just a fun little minigame.
>>44744396
'i'interact with any npc and choose duel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44731079
I see, does Riding my pet allow.me to have both hp bars combined? Do we take half damage each and full damage from AoE?
Or is it just like we are occupying the same space, so no difference except speed? If no difference in how damage is dealt to me, then maybe it's best to have the mount just be a Speed beast rather than another layer of HP for me.

On an unrelated note, i see that pets can get Alchemical Rain, but they use restore spirit potion.
This made me wonder: can pets restore my own PC or others Stamina? If so, how?
Otherwise i guess the only way to AoE heal Stamina is if i use an Alchemical Raind Soda bottle or Soma.
Speaking of which, which consumable can i mass buy/produce for this purpose? Soda, Soma or other items that i can stock up on reliably?

Sorry for all the questions, i'm theorycrafting my dream team.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44748744
>does Riding my pet allow.me to have both hp bars combined? Do we take half damage each and full damage from AoE?
No and you both take full damage from AoE. Attacks target you and/or your mount separately.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44736617
Can you actually play it now? Whenever I checked my deck before all it'd say about all the cards is that the card game isn't implemented yet so the cards don't do anything.

[Anonymous No.]

Holy fuck, I was not expecting a literal giant.

[Anonymous No.]

Worship me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44765314
Nah, I'll worship the fox god instead. Not just because of the novelty but also because massive honkers.

Also Jure will be busy with tentacles.

[Anonymous No.]

This night Kumiromi appeared in my dream. I discovered that he exists as a god in a pen and paper RPG system, and was copied entirely when being brought into Elona (with another name). Then I met him inside a giant tree in real life and declared my love for him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44766991
>he
first indication of it being a dream

[Anonymous No.]

>>44766991
Congratulations anon now you get to fuck a tree

[Anonymous No.]

Me love halloween.
frankly, I’m amazed by this guy autism

[Anonymous No.]

>>44763231
works fine to me

[Anonymous No.]

Dohohoho.
it`s always good to have more panties

[Anonymous No.]

>>44691347
Dare you enter our magical realm?

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder if there's a way to make her join my party without hacking the game

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck happened? Holy shit can I fix this at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774160
Blessed potion of potential. At least if you're playing in plus if I remember right. I don't remember if it was just plus but at least there is it's blessed it increases the potential of all attributes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774160
https://elona.fandom.com/wiki/Potential?so=search#Attribute_Experience
Blessed potions of potential are the only good method. Everything else doesn't give a whole lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774173
>>44774212
I was hoping to figure out how to get back to my original attributes, actually. Yeah it's plus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774235
oh, the debuff
Speak to a healer, they can restore your attributes. There's one in Palmia, near the middle of the top of the map.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774272
I've done that multiple times. I'm still a cripple.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774282
Is your gear cursed? Any mutations? Ether wind corruption?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774296
>cursed?
Nope, purified.
>Any mutations?
PV-3 and minor fire weakness are the only bad ones I have.
>Ether corruption
None. I am utterly baffled as to why I'm so underpowered.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774350
And you checked your equipment stats to make sure they don't nerf your attributes even though they're uncursed? No debuffs lingering on your character? Not hungry/thirsty/sleepy?
If not any of that then I'm at a loss. Try drinking a blessed potion of restore body

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774377
>And you checked your equipment stats to make sure they don't nerf your attributes even though they're uncursed?
I fell for the trap of the steel dragon's ring once. Nothing except a minor debuff to marksman.
>No debuffs lingering on your character?
None.
>Not hungry/thirsty/sleepy?
Not even burdened.
>Try drinking a blessed potion of restore body
Nada. I got another +cha mutation offscreen. This is frustrating. I'm struggling way more than I should.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774458
What's wrong with the steel dragon's ring?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44776392
>It decreases your Speed by 27.
Makes quite an impact on your survival early game

[Anonymous No.]

I've always wondered, what does the * mean next to your attributes, anyways? Modified by equipment or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44777487
Maybe they are sustained?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44777487
>>44777649
yeah it's from being maintained by equipment

[Anonymous No.]

I am kinda sad that I didn't find out about INI reset for high speed pets earlier. Well will just need to regrind all skills from 10 to 80 back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44779972
If you have access to Maile, you have at least the Lesmias fragment. That should push all stats to 50 after resetting your pet.

[Anonymous No.]

new bread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774458

Wish I could search /jp/'s archives because I'm sure another anon complained about this exact problem a couple months back, unfortunately with the same lack of solution: blessed restore body/spirit didn't work, gear was fine, no mutations, etc. Wonder if it's a bug or what. If you ever figure manage fix it, please post how.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44783861
>Wish I could search /jp/'s archives
But you can?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44774458
Since your stats are about the half of original value i guess you used <Limit Power>?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44784152
Basically this. Someone used power limiter and since limit vanish takes 50% gauge it's not immediately apparent on how to remove it.

Classic case of FOAF.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44784152
>>44784209
Oh.
I didn't realize I had to select myself for it to work...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44784209
Different Anon, but what does FOAF stand for?

[Anonymous No.]

New bread

>>44784403

[Anonymous No.]

And so begins my journey to find more spellbooks and wands for my 4th-dimensional pocket...

[Anonymous No.]

>another heart dropped
>died
That's how it goes.