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Something, something, culprit, something, something, Beatrice, something, something, reliable point of view, something, something, DID.

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Nanjo is Jessica

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>>4437728
Nah, Moon-chan is Jessica.

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and that's the definition of an umineko thread
can we have a music one?
only tracks under 6 minutes to bring more variety

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something something without love it can't be seen something something something Battler something something something no DID something something objection

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>>4437747
ROG LIMITATION for FUCK YEAH TIER
Blue Butterfly for DAW TIER
Birth of a NEW WITCH for JAMES BOND TIER

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Something something Erika something something yandere something something copious amounts of alcohol something something two a.m in the morning

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ERIKA!

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>>4437765
thx, this kind of thing
Birth of the new witch rocks, also Gaap song and great vocal
Thx for all people was a good version of thx of higurashi, really good

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Something something insulin something something witchhunt something something Fake body something something Shannon disguise kit something something BEATRICE

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>>4437826
you got the award of the night

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>>4437784
Something something Dlanor something something hot lesbian sex something something, DIE THE DEATH.

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something something meanwhile at witch hunt something something 3% something something Nanjo is Nanjo's granddaughter something something gabe newell something something

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something something retarded something something Kanon is Kinzo something something DID sucks something something gay end epick win XD something something u mad

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genji is the culprit

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>>4437898
the butler did it, how original

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Something something muhuhaha something something Umineko sucks something something i hate umineko something something see you next thread

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Something something FUCKING MOON-CHAN something something SHKANONTRICE something something ERIKA;_: something something BATTLER IS A FAGGOT

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I'm glad we've gotten to the point where we can condense everything we can possibly discuss in an Umineko thread to a dozen or so half-assed posts.

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Something something no dine no knox something something killing personas something something Ryukushi something something screw it I'm going back to /tg/

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>>4437963
Something something Engrishy promise something something Kinzorape something something ponies something something I miss the Pony Theory so fucking much.

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Something something THE REAL ROKKENJIMA something something fiction something something Battler is Archer something something Ange

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>>4437712
Please stop spamming www. anon removethisbitch talk .com with your stupid bots already. We do not want you or your memes there.

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>>4437989
everyone misses the pony theory, it was the BEST theory ever created
all those theories and specualtions about kinzo being dead and Shkanon started just so this could become true

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Pony theory was terrible. Awful. But at least it was better than what we have now.

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>>4438021
I never liked how shipfaggy it became, to be honest.

And METAL GEAR BEATRICE was a bit on the ridiculous side, but then again, DID Kohaku clone, evil, incestuous Jessica, and reverse trap Kanon are pretty retarded too.

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>>4438041
METAL GEAR BEATRICE was fun as hell to imagine.
DUN DUN DA!
DUN DUN DA!
DUNNA NA, NA NA NA NA NA!
DUN DUN DUN NA NA NANA!

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>>4438030
I can see someone is just being tsundere for the pony.

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Fuck missing the Pony Theory, I miss the delusions of Verochia Dragoon Story.

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>>4438041
Oh, and the theory that Kyrie brings an elite team of six mercenaries onto the island after the first twilight.

That's worse than the pony theories idea of Beatrice parachuting in or some shit.

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>>4438041
I didn't mind stuff like Beatrice being offshore in a boat on the Kuwadorian harbor, but then I was a pretty hardcore ponyfag.

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>>4438099
>idea of Beatrice parachuting in

I can see this happening.

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>>4438099
Sometimes Umineko theorists have no common sense at all. Just look at the theories we have now as an example....

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>>4438094
I think Ordeze might actually have an expy in Umineko.

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>>4438124
The theories now are the most plausible. Sadly.
Yes, a teenager committed most of the murders.
A delusional, insane, teenager.

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>>4438099
You got a problem with Tactical HALO jumps, Anon?

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>>4438147
Now we just have to find out if 00 likes hot chocolate or not.

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Can someone tell me what DID means?

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>>4438147
Oh man I remember Eyepatch Lady. She would have fit so well as being an expy of Jessica after EP3, what with the eye damage. But no, she had to be post-timeskip maybe-Ordeze.

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>>4438151
No, back when we actually had variety, we had more plausible theories. None of the theories we have now match the characters or make any sense logically.

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>>4438147
She reminds me of Jessica, oddly enough...

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>>4438166
dissociative identity disorder

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>>4438173
Culprit Kyrie + pony theory was the golden age, man.

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>>4438151
it's normal
higurashi-about teenagers-adult culprit
umineko-about adults-teenage culprit

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>>4438189
I never did quite like Kyrie as the culprit.
Back then I believed in the pony theory with either Rosa or Jessica as the culprit.

But enough nostalgia, I mean, come on guys, it's just a visual novel!

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>>4438157
During a typhoon, purty muhc.

You'd figure the spastic, powerful winds inside of a heavy storm would make any logical person realize it is impossible, but Umineko threads have shown me humanities incredible mental gymnastics prowess, it should be a goddamn Olympic event.

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>>4438041
Of the current theories, reverse trap Kanon is the one I like most.

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>>4438202
I like pony theory nostalgia much better than more Shkannontrice circlejerk, though.

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>>4438189
add it that the people on the island where 18, always 18 (or 17 with Shkanon, this theory was borned just to fit beatrice) and it was the perfect theory

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>>4438206
hey, erika, a loli in a swimsuit could do it

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The Shkanon+Erika doesn't exist=pony possibility is so far-fetched and impossible, I know, but oh god I WANT TO BELIEVE...

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;_;

The spirit of the pony theory has left our hearts.

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>>4438242
this theory should be called the phoenix theory for obvious reasons

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>>4438242
Two episodes to go, bra.
Episode 7, wesa gonna get trolled again. With Bern leading the show, it's inevitable.

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Has the writefag who was gonna do the Ordeze/Sorcerer fic fallen off the face of the earth?

I mean, I'm fine with waiting, so long as it's not like Witch Hunt's three percent, but...;_;

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>>4438259
I'm just anticipating what kind of troll awaits us, he has about the same time of preparation of ep3
please let it be a master troll

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>>4438259
I'm kind of hoping that the "truth" Featherine wants Bern to verify, that Featherine deduced from the first two episodes, is the loveless Shkannontrice, and it will actually be proven wrong.

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>>4438273
they should update by tomorrow, they said, along with the ep5 patch and the prologue

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>>4438273
You want it still, even after it's impossible to be canon?

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>>4438273
thisthisthis

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Umineko theory threads have changed.
It's not about motives, or logic.
It's not even about debate, love, or originality.
It's an endless series of pissing contests,
fought by samefags and retards.
Umineko theory threads, and their vast consumption of human brain power,
has become an irrational, well-oiled scripted argument.

Umineko theory threads have changed.
DID-tagged maids carry DID-tagged clothes,
use DID-tagged stakes.
Nanomachines inside their brain
enhance and regulate their personas.
Jessica control.. Beatrice control..
Kanon control.. Thread control.
Everything is monitored, and kept under control.

Umineko theory threads have changed.

The age of ponies is now the age of moon-chan,
averting catastrophe from weapons of red text.

And he who controls the theories, controls the threads.

Umineko theory threads have changed.

When the thread is under total control,

Umineko becomes routine.

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>>4438259
Don't forget that it took Ryukishi07 two hours to tell Sayaka Ohara the whole truth of Rokkenjima. And she's not stupid, either, so it's not like had to keep re-explaining things.

I'm thinking we're going to get something that contains elements of all the theories that have been developed up to this point, except for the Metal Gear/Solid Seagull-type ones.

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>>4438296
fuck you solid seagull is awesome.

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>>4438296
I still believe in metal-gear Maria for ep4

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>>4438309
I prefer the suicide-with-gun-falling-into-well theory.

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>>4438296
As long as the culprit is revealed this episode.

I'm getting tired of being led on a leash by Ryukishi's ridiculous plot, show the culprit so we can form an actual working theory.

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>>4438290
Moon-chan creator here, I never created the theory to get people to circlejerk about it, But I suppose that's just the way it is.

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>>4438323
that's too complicated, at least in ten little niggers, it was easier, that theory has just too many odds against it, it was a damn well with bars, a high probability that the gun couldn't pass (also taking into account there was no time for preparation)

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>>4438323
See, I'm ok with that, but only to an extent. Like, honestly, that action shows that Shkanontrice is very self aware, and malicious.

DURR HURR I KILLED MYSELF AS SHANNON IN ADDITION TO YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY IN AN UNSOLVABLE WAY CUZ YOU COULDN'T REMEMBER A PROMISE AM I A TRAGIC HEROINE YET?

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>>4438323
Y'know, here's the funny thing about Episode 4. If Beatrice is either Shannon or Jessica, that means that, whichever one she is, she changed clothes before committing suicide/being killed by someone who then committed suicide. And considering the way piece Beatrice was acting after talking to Battler, I don't think she'd even care about that stuff at that point.

However, if Kanon = Beatrice, and she committed suicide by, say, jumping off a cliff, then things might just start making sense.

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>>4438377
Also, the switching on and off of the leg tattoo. So Shannon ran from where Kyrie's group was, changed clothes, applied the fake tattoo, removed the other one, confronted Battler on the balcony, changed clothes again, switched tattoos again, and ran back to Kyrie's group to kill herself?

what is this i don't even

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>>4438377
(Though that would require the Shkanon theory to not be true, and would also require Kanon to have inherited the name "Kinzo" and require Erika to have stopped existing as a piece once the sixth game ended.)

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>>4438395
Yeah. Episode 4 points heavily towards either Kanontrice or that thing that shall not be named.

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>>4438406
Don't be afraid, anonymous.

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>>4438435
No, that other, other thing that can't be named.

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>>4438377
but kanon was the 9th victim

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>>4438435
It's dog food.

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>>4438444
"Kanon" was. Even if Kanontrice is true, Kanon and Beatrice still don't have the same wishes and goals.

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>>4438479
Oh god no, so Kanontrice is DID too?

There goes any positives I had for it, it's DID Kohaku with a penis.

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>>4438479
>"Kanon"
>implying DID
The problem with you DID people is that you aren't consistent. Why are the personas sometimes counted as people and sometimes not counted as people?

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I understand this is a work of fiction, but DID doesn't work this way. It has symptoms like:

Depression
Mood swings
Suicidal tendencies
Compulsions and rituals
Phobias
Flashbacks or intrusive memories
Amnesia, blackouts or time loss
Headaches
Panic attacks
Reactions to stimuli or "triggers"
Addictive behavior including alcohol or drugs
Psychotic-like symptoms (including auditory and visual hallucinations)
Eating disorders
Trances, fugue states or "out of body experiences."
Sleep disorders (insomnia, night terrors, and sleep walking)


Unless those issues are somehow controlled, then being a servant of any kind becomes a major problem to an employer. And Shannon has been working there for 10 years.

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>>4438490
Anything-trice is DID to some extent. Hell, even the original Pony Theory doesn't quite work, based on the monologue from Episode 6.


...Beatrice.
Listen carefully.
I will turn over my love for Battler to you.
Become the woman Battler desires.

I will give you the blonde hair he desires.
I will give you the blue eyes he desires.
I will give you the personality suited to him that he desires.
And... In place of me, love him.
And if possible, be loved by him.

I can no longer love him.
The feelings I could not obtain...the feelings I could not bear...please obtain them.

From this day forward, you are no longer the phantom of Rokkenjima who only plays tricks.
From this day forward, you are the ruler of Rokkenjima, and the one who waits for him to return until he fulfills his promise.

From this day forward, you will inherit that in my place.
Thus, from this day forward, you are no longer me.

I will push all of my suffering on to you... Please forgive me for being the only one to become happy.

From this day forward, you have the qualifications to detest everything.
You are the Golden Witch, Beatrice.

And someday.
Destroy everything, revive everything.
...Bless all lovers.

At that time.
...For both you and I to find happiness together...I will be wishing for from the bottom of my heart.

From this day on, you are not me.
From this day on, I am not you.
Let's split up our one soul and share it.
Each half will naturally be less than one soul.
But surely that will allow us to see more dreams than a person would.
May we be blessed...
My dear Beatrice...

Although no one else can see your form,
at least I can see you.
And if you are loved by many people,
surely everyone else will become able to see you too.
With love, we can see...

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>>4438519
...I find it funny that all members of the Ushiromiya family seem to have some of those symptoms, to an extent.

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>>4438533
(Particularly Eva, Natsuhi, and Rosa.)

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>>4438522
IF YOU ARE LOVED BY MANY PEOPLE....
WE CAN KILL THEM ALL!
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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>>4438395
Dont forget that for that to work LOL PERSONA DIED should be needed.

As Kanon is the 9th victim, if Shkanon is true, Shannon CANNOT be the last victim to die, thus making the gun-in-the-well-trick useless, as someone would have to commit suicide and hide the gun in other way.

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>>4438522
Which is why most people have taken a shotgun to the Pony Theory, it doesn't hold up with EP6.

Someone seems to have multiple personalities, but Kanon is disturbing because he is either a man, leading to homo end, or a woman, meaning she was leading Jessica on for some crazy ass reason.

Alternatively, she is a lesbian, meaning Battler gets nothing.

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>>4438519
Kanon has supposedly only been working for three, however.

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>>4438560
Bros, if you're worried about the piece ending...
either.

1. Everyone's dead lol who cares
2. George gets Shannon, Battler gets Jessica
3. George dies, Battler and Jessica share Shkanontrice
4. Jessica dies, Battler and George shares Shkanontrice
5. Jessica and George die, Battler gets the did meido to himself
6. They all live, and share Shkanontrice. But George is a faggot, he'd never let that happen.

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>>4438522
Nah, Kanontrice dont need to rely in DID, neither do Jessitrice.

Kanon could have been the 9th victim while being Beatrice, he would need just to kill him/herself right after the scene. (Also its needed for a bunch of people to be alive at this point of time, but lets skip that).

Jessitrice doesnt rely on DID at all, the only problem with this theory is....that nobody likes Jessica.

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I'm okay with most of the theories present, but I gotta say that I hate the guys whose only defense for their logic is "Ryu is a shitty writer, the answer will be shitty."

Regardless, that doesn't mean you should be lazy in theory construction. ugh.

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>>4438573
2 and 3 are the most enticing, no fucking way I will tolerate sharing with creepy ass George. It's either Jessica, or sharing with Jessica, 3P is fine too.

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>>4438584
I like Jessica just fine. Jessitrice I doubt, though, but I do think she'll have a role to play.
That or she is THE most innocent character in the series.

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>>4438573
Yeah, we have established that if the pieces live, George must die to ensure a GOOD END.

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>>4438573
I'm not sharing anything with that fatass

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>>4438522
That's just your interpretation.

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So what exactly is this Metal Gear Beatrice theory?

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>>4438573
In b4
Jessica gets Kanon
George gets Shannon
Battler is now a hobo.

-Beatrice never existed.-

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>>4438608

Why in the world is this guy not rangebanned yet?

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>>4438606
If you are a follower of Shkanon, Jessica has to be involved with it. So do Natsuhi, Krauss, and all the servants. Which is why Shkanon is retarded.

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>>4438629
7 proxies

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>>4438625
Offhand way of saying that Piece Beato comes onto the island after someone dies.
Big problem is that it says that people aren't considered people when they die.

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>>4438625
It was a part of the common pony theory that Beatrice was her own person, and somehow managed to get onto the island after the first twilight.

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>>4438629
Poland and Russia have alot of ISPs

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>>4438573
3 and 5 are the only good options.
I'm OK with Battler/Shkannontrice/Jessica threeway, Battler/Shkannontrice or even Jessica/Shkannontrice.
But leave the fat bastard out of it.

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>>4438641
> Big problem is that it says that people aren't considered people when they die.
No, it was that the count of people on the island was only of living people, not that dead people didn't count as people.

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Why is Trolltrice so perfect?

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Can any Japanese fluent people confirm what "on the island" means in Japanese? Can you circumvent it by going under the island? I want to see if my favorite underground railways crack theory can have a tiny veneer of plausibility.

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>>4438670
Because she's jessica
Moetrice is Shannon

Threeway end.

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>>4438660
WHAT THEN TO DO ABOUT GEORGE OF NAZARETH? BY INCHES AND INCHES, HIS FAGGOTRY INCREASES.

FOR A GOOD ENDING, THIS GEORGE MUST DIE!
MUST DIE! MUST DIE!
FOR A GOOD ENDING, THIS GEORGE MUST DIE!

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Didn't we already do this on 7chan?

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>>4438666
>No, it was that the count of people on the island was only of living people, not that dead people didn't count as people.
I thought that was obvious since Kinzo isn't counted.

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>>4438929
The thing is, the count could also refer to people who were alive on the island when the game started. Meaning only those people would be counted, alive or dead, and any bodies of people who had died before then wouldn't be counted.

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