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Beginner guide, FAQ and links: https://rentry.org/8vkaw
New child mechanics guide for plus: https://pastebin.com/7is8p4NF
Elona+ Custom-GX continued branch: https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/
Extra sprites/PCCs: https://elonaup.x0.com/sozai/index.htm
Elin Demo 9.10: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BXxcK0t1zkJFn-5mVaX93OabUFJKrVnO/view?

previous thread >>44236432

>> No.44295554
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44295554

got another extender, what should bear my next daughter?

>> No.44295699

>>44295554
Take the chance to mix up some movesets. Even if you use custom ai part time worker is worth getting for meteor.

>> No.44295819

>>44295699
dont want to costum ai

>> No.44295979

>>44295554
Idk if that helps or not but i'm currently in the process of getting an isekai cheatah. I'm interested what this cat can do with a more forgiving ini.

>> No.44296021

Which files should I transfer when updating to a new version?

>> No.44296861

>>44294886
All pets staying at your house should be included when you export your house.

>>44296021
The save folder, and any custom files.

>> No.44296980

>>44296861
>The save folder, and any custom files.
and maybe config.txt

>> No.44298591
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44298591

>>44288791
>>44288895
Rare video of a non-hostile Silver Bell (Platina Bell in E+) moments before getting one-shot by a spell. circa 2016, colorized
https://files.catbox.moe/uiirse.webm

>> No.44298731

>>44298591
SOBBING
EMOJI

Younger sister when?

>> No.44298870
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44298870

>>44298591

>> No.44299162

>>44298591
noice

>> No.44301081

Yeah this is the newfound vitality these threads needed. Thank you Silver Bell chan.

>> No.44301637

>>44298591
NAKADASHI FROM A SHOTA GOLD BELL WHEN

>> No.44301984
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44301984

>>44298731
Another animation? Probably not soon, Adobe really tries it's hardest to make your life hard kek, like 80% of the time on this was spent struggling with the software
literally an skill issue
>>44301081
I'm just an anon that likes drawing random crap, glad others enjoy my stuff lol
>>44301637
Bro knows what's up, I'll keep it in mind

>> No.44302320

What am I supposed to do with all the little sister diaries I find? No way I'm running a party of 15 younger sisters
unless....?

>> No.44302524

>>44302320
Just store 'em in your bookshelf,they can be used for a recipe later
.
.
.
you do have a bookshelf,right?

>> No.44302604

>>44302524
I just read every book I run into...

>> No.44302699

>>44302604
Furniture that stores consumables are still helpful,and i do not picture you reading things like a book of wish(spell) as soon as you find one,it's rather difficult both to find and make use of.

>> No.44303189

I wonder if Elin will have bookshelves and potion racks

>> No.44303329
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44303329

So, in omake, is there anyway to increase your pet literacy other than using skill point?

>> No.44303349

>>44303329
can't you feed them herb laced food?

>> No.44303427

>>44303349
My bad, I mean literacy skill, not stats.

>> No.44303464

>>44303427
does giving them scrolls or easier spell books not work?
you could try the group reading skill but I don't know how that works in omake

>> No.44303532

>>44303464
It'd only increase their memorization everytime they'd use a spell from spellbook.
But I might be wrong, need to test it some more.
I just want her to spam magic and chaos dart with izpalt bonus

>> No.44303607

>>44303532
are you sure she even knows literacy

>> No.44303630

>>44303607
She can't read/used magic dart spellbook otherwise.
Anyway gonna use elosnack to test it.

>> No.44303634
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44303634

How do i generate a Bugged Book?
I desire it for my collection, but i don't know what to do to make the game fuck up item generation and give it to me.

>> No.44303963

>>44303630
Ok so, after changing her literacy skill potential to 400% and make her spamming dart in dungeon, Her literacy skill do go up a little bit.
This is really nice since I don't have to wait for her to leveled up to get some skill points.

>> No.44304066

>>44303189
The demo has containers of all kinds that you can put anything in. Crafting draws from nearby containers.

>> No.44304076

>>44302320
you make mysterious diaries

>> No.44304313
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44304313

Now this is a party.

>> No.44304427

>>44303963
you can also get her travelling skill

>> No.44304478

>>44304427
I don't think it works the same way in omake.
I read on changelog that traveling skill reduce bandits encounter, which is suck.

>> No.44305020

which pets/ pets evo use 'heal other' actions that isnt healing rain?

>> No.44305799
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>>44304313
Not large enough.

But if they're all exiles, that's going to take a while...

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>>44305799
None of them are exiles, just an effect from worshipping izpalt.

>> No.44306143

>>44305020
That's just Healing Touch, right? The only monsters I could find with that at a glance were ham-tairou and hakutoshin. Maybe there are others?
You could also use Custom AI to teach the Healing Touch spell to a pet, but I'm pretty sure you'd have to grind it to L50 first.

>> No.44306300

>>44306143
ty senpai

>> No.44306746

>>44306082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifB662xOZTw

>> No.44307072
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44307072

>>44306746
Surprisingly... accurate.
Thats how my fight againts bosses usually goes since I tended to challenge high level nefia.

>> No.44307589

>>44298591
Why am I so down bad for this.

>> No.44311021

How can I make my character heavier?

>> No.44311111

>>44311021
Eat candy and fruit based food a lot. not herbed of course.

>> No.44311688

>>44311021
use pot of fusion to make feed. eat it yourself instead of giving ranch animals.

>> No.44311912

>>44311111
>>44311688
Thanks senpais, I shall become the heaviest Platina Bell

>> No.44311932

What should I be taking on a melee Living Weapon? So far I've been going elemental damage, but critical Hit chance showed up.

>> No.44311951
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44311951

I have a silly question
I can change individual sprites if I'm using a graphics pack, right?
I'm not too fond of the monster girl sprites for the snail and crab and some items are just white squares

>> No.44311964

>>44311932
try pierceing

but yeah if you actually use the weapon to fight bosses and not special actions like pain insult or whatever than elem damage is the most effective

>>44311951
yes you can
use wiki to find the sprite number of he monster you want to change
than put the new sprite (as .bmp) in user/graphic

>> No.44312050

>>44311951
>but crabs dont have breasts.png
How are they keep all that dropping milk.
I mean seriously the amount of milk and eggs i get is ridiculous...

>> No.44312171

Does increasing life with AP helps with getting extra limbs?
Bells only have 1 life and the life from the ascetic feat doesn't count for those... aiee,,,,

>> No.44312435

>>44311951
I never bother to replace the character.bmp anymore because of this monster girl brainrot as well.

>> No.44312443

>>44312050
>milk
We need a way to craft broken jars, what with all the milk that can be obtained.

>> No.44312580

>>44312443
we already have ways to craft towels and buy earth crystals.

use your milk wisely
you can only eat 1 burger a day

>> No.44313457

>>44312443
We have one. It's the very first recipe in the pot. Junk make.

>> No.44313513

>>44312580
>you can only eat 1 burger a day
If you're willing to risk anorexia you can Throw cursed milk on yourself and vomit so you can eat more.

>>44313457
>We have one. It's the very first recipe in the pot. Junk make.
Forgot to mention that the problem is not the lack of broken jars, its the time delay on fermentation.

>> No.44313540

Where can I get another gene machine after I left mine in Derphy and it disappeared?

>> No.44313566

>>44313540
act 2 Gavela'l lab has one iirc. You probably need to steal it. It might be on the little sister quest list too, idk. I remember seeing some in lost irva as well.

>> No.44313604

>>44313513
the time delay is a way to pass time, something people are always looking for

>>44313540
little sister quest

>>44313566
its a precious item thus cant be stolen

>> No.44313698

>>44313566
>>44313604
Thanks!

>> No.44314679

First playthrough. The king of Palmia was assassinated. I hadn't talked to him yet for the main quest. Is that it? Can I no longer progress?

>> No.44314697

>>44314679
he gets better

>> No.44314703

>>44314697
I ate his corpse. How can he get better?

>> No.44314723

>>44314703
you poop him offscreen

>> No.44315804

>>44314723
vore quest flashbacks

>> No.44317414

>>44314679
So long as it's not a plot death everyone resurrects when a town refreshes.

You can even resurrect people if you don't want to wait.

>> No.44317656

Is it possible the beat the game completely solo? Even inner gods? Enemies outnumber you 30 to 1 per dungeon floor,i am on act 2 and its just enemies spaming AOE nukes nonstop

>> No.44317674

>read changelog
>kumi statue was changed
What do i duplicate with little sister quest now?

>> No.44317719

>>44317656
yes

>> No.44317739

>>44317674
hero cheese

>> No.44317796

>>44317674
What changed? The one from 1.92? I'm still duping it with some success.

>> No.44317845

>>44317656
I can imagine its possible with a defense oriented martial artist that dabbles in ball spells.

Or a magic oriented battlemage that dabbles in defenses and some melee for when you're silenced and you don't have time to craft holy light scrolls/use the holy light rod.

Getting materials for potions of potentials would be an issue with no pets to farm them for you. Plus your potentials will be terrible since you're doing everything. it levels quite fast tho

>> No.44317848

>>44317796
You could get specific seeds on certain days,now the seeds that spawn 'rotate' unless thats still as good?

>> No.44317863

>>44317845
I was talking more about a pure warrior/some kind of gunner,i dislike the idea that every playstyle needs magic or it just plain sucks

>> No.44317865

>>44317848
idk. ever since I swapped to CGX quests harvest time started to yield 20-30 seeds if I overwork. Herb seeds are among them.

>> No.44317867

>>44317848
They rotate but the counter is shared, so if you have 3 statues you're always getting 1 herb seed. If you only had 1 you need to use it 3 times. I have 9 statues right now so I'm getting 3 seeds every cooldown. Pretty good.

>> No.44317870

>>44317863
I also dislike that there is a meta, but I happen to like magic.

>> No.44317945

>>44317865
So thats what that toggle does,thank you
>>44317867
Guess gonna duplicate more statues after all
>>44317870
FUCK MAGIC and FUCK THIS GAY MECHANIC OF BOSSES HEALING TO FULL IF THEY RUN AWAY

>> No.44317990

>not duping statues of yacatect
lol
Imao

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>>44317945
>healing to full if they run away
Use Dancing Wire

>> No.44318149

>>44318085
I am a squishy mage that relies on necromancer pets,last thing i wanna do is GO TO THEIR FACES and pin them down,the gcx toggle to make spooks act like pets seems bugged or i mis-interpreted it

>> No.44318205

>>44318149
Are your spooks not attacking enemies on their own initiative rather than waiting for you to attack something?

>> No.44318221

>>44318205
They leash back to me after certain range,making the boss drop aggro and heal back,i assumed it meant they could wander around like pets do

>> No.44318231

>>44318221
https://pastebin.com/GkNQ39sY
>Spooks will attack anything that you attack or that attacks you. I've had them just sit there and take a beating when a monster attacked them while I was resting.

>> No.44318254

>>44318221
They are zombies,you get what you paid for

>> No.44318270

>>44318231
Man this aged like milk with the recent coffin changes,now your own shit kills you or costs all your hp/mana to buff

>> No.44318573

>>44317656
>Is it possible the beat the game completely solo?
yeah

>> No.44318795

>>44318221
>>44318254
He's right anon, just train a cute zombie girl instead. She can actually save you!

>> No.44318879

i told lloyd to teach tactical healing to my wizard of elea, but she never uses it
what gives

>> No.44318953

>>44318879
Maybe because you're using custom AI?

>> No.44319032

>>44318795
>gotta gear her up,spend money and feed her
Nah,fuck that

>> No.44319181

>>44318953
im using gx but costum ai is turned off.

>> No.44319474

>>44318879
Tactical heal moves only trigger at low health/mana (under 50%) so pets don't waste turns healing when not needed.

>> No.44319499

>>44319474
what about shadow step?

>> No.44319540

>>44313540
They can very rarely be found in dungeons or in chests, as in my case. I never knew it can drop from chests.

>> No.44319862

>>44319499
that's in tactical attack, and it works okay

>> No.44320119

>>44319540
Hopefully I get it that way. I don't think I identified it so it's not popping up in the little sister's quest.

>> No.44320293

So what does the faith skill even do for pets?

>> No.44320380

>>44320293
preaching IIRC

>> No.44320434

>>44320380
That's it? No healing spells heal for more, no extra stats based on their gods, nothing?
Now I have to find out how i can make pets worship no gods, maybe i can get that eyth passive for them that make me deal more damage to gods.

I am dissapoint.

>> No.44320461

Any pets that are good with little/no investnent?
>No gene engiinering
>No AP reset
>only need a weapon (or none) to kick ass
I know bells are in this category,any outlier cases?

>> No.44320473

>>44317865
How much do you have to overwork to get that?

>> No.44320478

>>44320434
>no extra stats based on their gods, nothing
your gods are their gods

>> No.44320484

>>44320461
exile

>> No.44320498

>>44320473
seems to me the more i do it, the more it yields.
for example my harvests capped out at 140 stones for a while now, but there is a major difference between finishing with 500, 1000 and 1500 stones worth of crops. only once did I get 1.5k, I usually end up with 900-1200 wich results in like 30 seeds and about 6-12 of them are herb seeds.

>> No.44320528

>>44320478
meaning I can just nuke their faith skill via memory converters and nothing of importance will be lost?

>> No.44320582

>>44320498
It seems my gardening and weight lifting skills have a very long way to go. Do the fields start having more and bigger crops in them at some point, or are you just clearing the whole place out?

>> No.44320620

>>44320582
yeah. I got crops weighting for like 60s. sometimes but i generally try to clear out everything.

>> No.44320746
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44320746

This is what i got from a 140s harvest quest.

>> No.44320759

>>44320746
>140s harvest quest.
The quest must have new versions become available at some point. One of these days I’m going to have to head into Lesimas.

>> No.44320774

>>44320759
It's probably because i have over 300k fame.
Grind more!

>> No.44320847

>>44320774
Better start cranking out books I guess.

>> No.44320928

>>44320293
debuff resistance

>> No.44320992

>>44311964
I don't think changing each one individually is going to work out, mostly because the spider sprite uploaded on the wiki isn't the right size
A lot of the sprites are really nice and the world pretty, but I don't want to suffer with fighting visually appealing monster girls, I want my goofy dudes back.....
I am torn

>> No.44321004

>>44320434
i heard it gives debuff resist

>> No.44321019

>>44320992
you can edit the bmp files by pasting the better sprites back

>> No.44321040

>>44321019
that's what I tried at first, but I got an error when I ran the game so it was unplayable
going into paint to paste on the bmp's works
I also don't have the original sprites anywhere, I don't know where they are in the original folders?
I'm sorry I'm not the brightest

>> No.44321149

>>44321040
for the original files, simply get the original game
which files have you tried to edit, and what program did you use to edit them?
for individual sprites in user/graphic, you need to manually open and choose save as bmp, not just change the extension
did you check for size? it should be 64x64 i think

>> No.44321196

>>44320293
Ano made hex resistance run off faith instead of magic resistance several patches back.

>> No.44321244
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44321244

Managed to defeat a boss 80 levels over my own and bought a battleship, Kumiromi's end draws near each passing day

>> No.44321245

>>44320461
Bells defo need gene engineering for extra limbs and to be taken to Maile. Cmetal and cresele aren't going to carry a pet past mid to late act 1, far too many things penetrate those and cresele no longer gives immunity.

>> No.44321262

>>44321245
what about tag?

>> No.44321299

>>44321244
I never moved up from my truck
whats so special about the ship

>> No.44321311

>>44321299
constantly drains MP for meditation training.

>> No.44321320

>>44321299
its main canons probably

>> No.44321433

>>44321311
That's the train.

>> No.44321443

>>44321433
no the train is for snow

>> No.44321459

>have all these cool 2 tile tall sprites
>not a single good tall pet
FUCK

>> No.44321465

>>44321443
Train does both, no slow on snow and drains MP

>> No.44321468
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44321468

>>44321433
I ended up mixing the 2 in my mind

>> No.44321480

>>44321299
It squashes rogue bosses. The journal keeps a record of how many you've run over with the battleship.

>> No.44321483

>>44321459
>he didnt catch a yith as a pet

>> No.44321509

The battle ship ignores the slowdown in the desert of act 2

>> No.44321529

>>44321149
yeah I have the original, separate from the modded one I have, but there's only a bmp of a character portrait in the user/graphics folder
when I saved the sprites from the wiki it didn't give me the option to save as bmp, maybe it's my browser settings then
and the spider sprite is 32x25 for some reason?

>> No.44321572
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44321572

>>44321529
maybe seeing is believing

>> No.44321583

>>44321529
>>44321572
you dont need all numbers, only numbers for the ones you want to replace.

>> No.44321686

>>44321459
>cool 2 tile tall sprites
>no way to make a custom PCC that's 2 tiles tall
I just want to ride on the shoulders of a big oni woman

>> No.44321710

>>44321459
>>44321686
this needs to be in wish list

>> No.44322319

>>44321686
The tall japanese lady enemy with a sundress?

>> No.44323351 [DELETED] 

>>44321480
>squashes rogue bosses
I can understand they'll become a nuisance in the far late game, but for me, they're free AP. I'm sticking with my truck for now.

>> No.44323387

>>44321459
>>not a single good tall pet
I don't know, anon, every pet in my harem are all tall sprites except one. They're all worth it to me.

>>44321480
>squashes rogue bosses
I can understand they'll become a nuisance in the far late game, but for me, they're free AP. I'm sticking with my truck for now.

>> No.44323770

>>44321244
ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER
Godspeed bell chan

>> No.44323801

>SurvivabilityEXtenderY
>S EX Y
Why did it take me so long to get it... What's the best way to use these anyway?

>> No.44323946

>>44323801
using blood transfer, you can get some really rare pets (by making sure that opathos will be the last one to donate blood to your pet or something) with awesome ressitances with this.

>> No.44324011

>>44323801
>>44323946
also, child dialog option as they grow up affect master-servent relationship, so its much easier now to tell them to earn money by preforming when in town now

>> No.44324397

>>44324011
>tfw trying to be a doting father led my younger cat sister daughter to go deep into the negatives in terms of master servant relationship by the time she was grown up
Also younger cat sister sprite with a school girl outfit was kino. Then I fucked it up by evolving her into a cat princess like her mom...

>> No.44324484

>>44324397
you can put back her sprite no?

>> No.44324572

>>44324484
Can I do that? Make her use a pre-evolution sprite? If so, how? I'd totally also do that with my Anubis to make her use the older dog sister or wolf sister sprite.

>> No.44324707

>>44324572
maybe interact shape change (f)

or maybe use pcc thats just the old speite

>> No.44324829

>>44324707
If I can't literally choose her pre-evolution sprite it'd be difficult to try and get the younger cat sister with a school girl outfit unless I try to remake the sprite myself. Though with Anubis that sounds more doable. In fact... With that I'm a little torn between going with the older dog sister sprite or wolf sister sprite. Older dog sister sprite is just super cute and wholesome while the wolf sister has naked apron going for it.

>> No.44325263
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44325263

Best way to farm cursed equipment?
I want to have a full set of "it attracts monsters" gear, but don't know if and how it can be done the most efficient way.

>> No.44325359

>>44325263
If there's a way to try to farm gear with a specific trait... I'd definitely want to know about it too. Though as far as I know the best you can possibly do is run dungeons during Nefia fever so that items are pre-identified, and checking every cursed piece of equipment you see. Either that or have Analysis high enough that you can tell when unidentified equipment is cursed and identifying them to see if it has that trait. In fact, I'll usually just stick to getting static artifacts that are any good over actively trying to get all the stars to align so that the perfect gear with the specific traits I want shows up.

>> No.44325455

>>44325359
Thank you, i'll do this until another anon comes with a better option.
I guess i could also murder entire Party Time quest guests, but the Nefia method seems more reliable.

>> No.44325629

>>44325359
Artifact fusion and living weapons cover most needs.

>> No.44325654

>>44324829
use this pcc friend
https://files.catbox.moe/hmnqfp.bmp

>> No.44325710

>>44325654
Very nice, it may not be the same, but still super cute, thanks. Though I haven't messed around with survivability extenders much, I wonder if it always slaps on a student uniform, or only tries that on humanoids or something?

>> No.44325813

Grats on your marriage Platina chan!

>> No.44326065

>>44325813
what kind of monster is vermeil anyway

>> No.44326216
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44326216

>>44325813
Thank you!
>>44326065
She's an Adult dragon flame but has the puppet sprite because it's one of the cutest

>> No.44326767

>>44326216
you will pay for that

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44326972

I find it funny every time I fight melee bosses I just spam dancing wire and they're just so insistent on going after one of my pets at the back, wasting their turns on movement. Anyone have any idea how the AI targets things?

I wonder if people know what my pets are based on their names

>> No.44327133

>>44326972
From what I noticed if they're not already engaging in combat they attack the thing that attacks them (any damage ability/debuff spell), and if they're already in combat they switch if something else did damage to them that's larger enough (my guess is that it's some sort of threat system that calculates a threat level for each enemy entity in their field of vision and then go for the one with the highest threat)

>> No.44328356

>has paralysis protection from gear
>still get paralyzed
Granted the enemy was lvl200+ and I'm only lvl82 but I guess status effect protection is not absolute?

>> No.44328574
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44328574

Oh he's a dead emperor alright. Beyond dead.

He dropped everything and he despawns when I leave though

>> No.44329044

>>44328356
They were absolute in vanilla but Ano needs to make his spacts and effects special, please understand.

>> No.44329151

So is Elin actually coming out this year?

>> No.44329338

>>44329151
no

>> No.44329583

Elona+ Custom GX 2.19R.1.1 is out!
https://github.com/JianmengYu/ElonaPlusCustom-GX/releases/tag/2.19R.1.1

>> No.44329831

>>44329583
we are so back

>> No.44329839

>>44329044
>random ring of resist confusion now protects against bad weather

>> No.44330412
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44330412

>>44321572
ahh no I mean in the original elona folder there's no sprites

>> No.44330511

>>44330412
there should be, only there is no INDIVDUAL sprites. instead there is character.bmp in graphic folder.

>> No.44331170

>>44329151
Not unless you backed at the alpha level, then it's Dec.

>> No.44331204

>>44329583
Elona+ Custom GX 2.19 Rev.1.1 sounds like a giant robot name.

>> No.44333174

>>44329583
>Necromancy mobs evolved by evolution tweak.
Not like you could keep them

>> No.44333205

>changelog says necro accel is supposed to cost 5% of your sp per undead out
>only costing ONE sp per unit
I am abusing the shit out of this before its fixed,clearing the main quest under 20 hours

>> No.44333669

shadow jump hops to targets i already killed, anyone else has this issue?

>> No.44333720

Is Time Stop Ammo good?
Does it always proc? And can it be recharged? If so, it seems kinda busted to just chain time stops, or is there a catch?

>> No.44333824

Plus is so fucking soulless now.

>> No.44333878

>>44333824
If its constantly developed the older the game, the higher the powercreep is. But constant changes keeps these games alive. you win some, you lose some.

>> No.44334224

>be me
>be killing enemies with my star hammer via remote attack *better than bow*
>finally find a living weapon during nefia in a dungoen 20 levels above mine
>its a cursed handaxe
so not only did i lose my remote low, i also lost on all the levels i got for blunt weapons, as well as thefact my strong stat is con rather than STR... well cest la vie.

nanomachine or diamond? which is better, after i equip upgrade it to battle axe?

>> No.44334239

>>44333720
It's one of the best, will always proc, can be reloaded with special ammo boxes or at a smith, and can be chained.

You only get 4 to 6 shots per reload and eventually the chain hit penalty will kick in, but anyone with a brain turns that shit off with cgx.

>>44333824
Like a miserable salaryman he has to keep adding shit to justify his existence. Never mind all the half finished nonsense lying around.

He hasn't had competition in the EN community for a long time since Omake is a bitch to install, but that will eventually change.

>> No.44334260

>>44334239
How's Omake overhaul compared to +CGX? Anything worth?

>> No.44334274

>>44334224
All weapons should be made out of ether.

Admantium is a close second if your ocd won't let you equip ether, but really the increase in corruption ticks is negligible.

>> No.44334290

>>44334274
why ether? im going for heavy armor build and ether is too light for my taste. also the damage bonus is inferior to diamond.

>> No.44334310

>>44334290
because he likes speed better that raw damage.

eventually damage will be better but you gotta have like 2k speed for the ether's bonus to be negligible

>> No.44334326

>>44334310
even than its better to etherize the rest of my equip rather than the waepon itself.

>> No.44334335

>>44334326
I'm pretty much just using artifacts that have special stuff on em, and I can't just change their materials. I'm not really all that knowledgeable about material types. So I'll believe you and just leave it like that.

>> No.44334349

>>44334335
no wait... I lied. I have 3 miracle grade gear, i could etherize those. but honestly I just never felt I'd need it.

>> No.44334394
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44334394

idea for a prank.
get 3 pigs.
mark them 1, 2 and 4 and release them in school.
everyone will look for no.3 all day.

>> No.44334428
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44334428

>>44334394
skill issue

>> No.44334487

if i use equip making on a living weapon, would the new weapons also be alive?

>> No.44334607
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44334607

I bought the body pillow for 100k because the stupid bear in Noyel won't give it to me even though I'm far more devout than him. Is it worth using?

>> No.44334747

>>44334607
It trades potential for good dreams, up to you if it's any worth.

>> No.44334815

>>44334747
which one does it gives, the potential or the dreams?

>> No.44334851

>>44334815
better dreams but it dosn't have the potential of a happy bed.

>> No.44334950

>>44334747
I don't mind attribute potentials as I have tons of potions of potential, but I heard it also doesn't give spell potentials. Are there alternatives to gaining spell potentials in that case?

>> No.44335043

>>44334290
Wrong. Ether has a damagefactor of 45 and dieside factor of 250. Diamond has a damagefactor of 27 and diesidefactor of 220. Maximum damage comes from ether equipment.

Weight is a non-factor as you can pay a smith to make any equipment heavy.

>> No.44335053

>>44335043
where do you get your data?

>> No.44335080

>>44335043
NTA but, isn't Ether supposed to sacrifice damage and DV/PV just for speed?

>> No.44335163

>>44334950
sleeping on a good bed gives 10k+ % of potential
losing that is an awful trade

>> No.44335172

>>44335163
spell potential*

>> No.44335307

>>44335163
what if you dont use spells?

>> No.44335312

>>44335307
you should start using them

>> No.44335337

>>44334607
Holy shit look at how flat she is,thats hot as fuck

>> No.44335348

>>44335312
i only use like, detect objects/ uncurse and various other utility spells. at heavy armor + shield spells are not something i need high levels of.

>> No.44335375

>>44335080
that's spirit cloth

>> No.44335531

>>44334239
Aren't all omake variants dead at this point now that NC is over? Ano does a lot of weird shit but the man's dedication to developing a variant for over a dozen years straight is damn commendable.

>> No.44335571

>>44335531
NC gets patches every few months,it got one last month

>> No.44335618

>>44335571
Glad to hear. Did somebody else pick up development or did the original guy return?

>> No.44335685

>>44335618
I think original guy but dont quote me on that

>> No.44335692

>>44335163
Oh well, home decoration it is

>>44335337
I don't see how she's flat but if you think she's hot that's ok in my book

>> No.44335712

>>44335685
From all I can find, the last update was on 2022/08/24, which also corresponds with when CGX anon got permission to upload the source code to Github. But I don't use discord, so its possible something has been happening there that hasn't made it to the JP variant wiki.

>> No.44335720

>>44335712
I think its only on the discord yes,i could upload a "prepackaged" version with the lastest patch in a few hours if anyone wants to try

>> No.44335754

I honestly prefer custom enemy variety/story/all tiny additions

Omake is just stat grinding like a cultivation simulator,seeing a goblin with 2 million speed (not made up) one shotting you is jarring,the game has in built macros because it knows you will need them

>> No.44335771

>>44335692
shes just slim

>> No.44335790

>>44335771
Jure is supposed to be second in booba but shes just FLAT there!

>> No.44335800

>>44335790
eheketl- busty
jure - normal
lulwy - flat
all is fine

>> No.44335820

>tfw lost my favorite pic of ehekatl now i cant find it on pixiv,booru or google

>> No.44335829

>>44335820
just wish for it 'painting of ehekatl and a swordfish'

>> No.44335833
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44335833

>>44335820
what was the painting like?

>> No.44335846

>>44335833
Ehekatl (mobile version) doing a silly cat like pose (and lots of booba showing)

I forgot where i found it,maybe if i try with mobile elona tags or jap google,i swear i posted it here but cant find in archive either

>> No.44335949

>>44335846
>>44335820
which boorus have you tried?

>> No.44336078

>>44335949
gel and dan so far

>> No.44336130

>>44336078
Gel and Dan sound like its an 80's sitcom...

>> No.44336156
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44336156

>>44336078
could you at least find the artist based on those boorus?

>> No.44336333
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44336333

FOUND IT! had it saved in one of my dozens of old ass USB backups,i knew making 4 copies of all my shit would be important someday

>> No.44336399

>>44336333
Nice find anon! You almost had me convert

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44336429

>>44336333
gj anon

>> No.44336442

Did they censor sex and prostitution in mobile?

>> No.44336466

>>44336442
there is no sex in elona. people are just dancing.

>> No.44336982

>>44336399
convert to what?
>>44336429
i swear i didnt saw it there,i searched using the ehekatl tag,not the elona one

>> No.44337094

>>44335053
Material technical info spreadsheet available from the discord.

>> No.44337107

>>44333669
anyone? shadow step works fine but shadow jump is buggy. is it fixed in 2.19?

>> No.44337780

>>44337107
I don't know never used it before. You need a target to jump to. If I see it step's better because ill just kill it.

>> No.44337855

>>44333824
how so? I don't mean that sarcastically or anything I'm sincerely curious

>> No.44338262
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44338262

Whos next

>>44337094
got link?

>> No.44338268

>>44337780
step burns trough AP fast.

>> No.44338291

>>44338268
that is undeniably true.
I'll swap to jump, but my two melee pets use step since they seem to be just fine.

>> No.44338368
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44338368

I'm
too sexy for my
pet

>> No.44338375

>>44338368
The sex discovered friendship!

>> No.44338382
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44338382

>>44338262
Nyarlathohep
King In yellow

In other news finally beated the main quest in a week or so,thanks to necromancy and Savescumming

yes i know thats not the real 'final boss' but javaeloth felt more like a cutscene than an actual fight

>> No.44338391
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44338391

>>44338382
Stats after using all the AP i had saved on speed bonuses and that crystal that raises your minimum stuff to 150

>> No.44338432

>>44338382
amazing!
congrats you speedrunner you

>> No.44338452
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44338452

>>44338432

>> No.44338718

>>44338391
>Kumiromi of Harvest
But for why?
I want to worship them purely for flavor/personal rp reasons but don't wanna make the game harder on myself

>> No.44338756

First time playing this game. I've been going around as a mounted Warmage with a lance and spamming thunder spear. It's alright, but I feel like the game would be a lot more fun leading an army of Laser Gun wielding Putits or as a farmer with a scythe decapitating everything.

Actual question, is Loss the recommended gamemode? I've been running around on Essential, but the lack of penalties on death seems kinda cheesey.

>> No.44338773

>>44338756
>is Loss the recommended gamemode? I've been running around on Essential, but the lack of penalties on death seems kinda cheesey.
Loss is the "true experience" but ultimately play the one that suits you best. If you don't want permadeath but still something more punishing, then try abnormal.

>> No.44338794

>>44338718
Needed the sp recovery to cheese enthumesis else it healed faster than i could mana drain her >>44338382

>> No.44338981

>>44338756
Despite Plus repeatedly toning down difficulty over the years, the game can still throw the occasional stupid and unfair death at you.

I would not play loss on a longhaul life sim like this.

>> No.44339326

>>44335720
Yes please

>> No.44339393

>>44338756
>is Loss the recommended gamemode
absolutely not lmao
in the first thousand or so turns most spell casting classes will die to public performers chucking rocks
then somewhat later you'll just die from an enemy that spawns another higher level of enemy which then proceeds to instantly kill you in a single turn

>> No.44339558

>>44335800
Where's Yacatect?

Do we ignore because lol not canon?

>> No.44339659

>>44336982
convert to the cat lady from the green lady

>> No.44339753

>>44339393
To be fair,even warrior golems die to those rock clowns

>> No.44339789

>>44339753
You can dodge the rocks, it's the fucking wizards man

>> No.44339830
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44339830

>chaosprincess enemy
>all of them are BEEG monstergirls
>there is like 6 different flavors

>> No.44339896

>>44339558
Yaca's only relevant on e+ also,there's no official measures either

>> No.44340635

GOD i hate how gimped everything thats not a mage is in this game
>death word can only be removed by magic
>contingency is basically invulnerability
>return/magical map saves you a shit ton of time
I wanna be a warrior berserker CHAD not some half battlemage abomination,it feels wrong

>> No.44340704

>>44340635
use rods
death words breaks if you kill the caster, try shadow step
preying remove debuffs and gully restore sp

you dont need contingency when you have 3 times the pv and 9 times the hp
work on weapon skills instead of casting skills so you can hit stuff

>> No.44340763

>>44340704
What is gully? also thanks for the tips

>> No.44340830

>>44340763
i mean fully

>> No.44340872
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44340872

I enjoy using MP breath to breach through doors and walls covering a room full of mobs. What are some creative uses have you found with your special actions, anon?

>> No.44340879

>>44340635
>GOD i hate how gimped everything thats not a mage is in this game
what the fuck are you smoking missile weapons are busted

>> No.44341258

>>44340879
Lots of people don't even know how to use special ammo.

Because of its nature of getting up close melee will always be gimped in figurines, but Elona is generous in giving you tools.

>> No.44341266

>>44335337
That Jure is based off the mobile depiction which differs considerably.

>> No.44341584
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44341584

>>44341266
Jure is cute whether mobile or PC!

>> No.44341917

I'm getting an error when trying to put things in the 4 dimensional pocket, is that common?

>> No.44342264

>>44340872
I've been having a lot of fun with alchemical rain and liquid manipulation now that I've started hoarding potions.

>> No.44342373

>>44341917
Its a CGX bug. Update to fix it.

>> No.44342674

Best living gun to wish for early? Trying to do a solo gunner which wont probably work after a certain point

>> No.44342706

>>44342674
Laser guns have a full 10 range modifier at all ranges and use bullets or cells.

>> No.44342808

>>44342706
yes but dual guns are a thing as well as magnums
nta btw

>> No.44343031

>>44342706
I was thinking laser yeah but someone said snipers were also good

>> No.44343243
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44343243

This game gave me a eating fetish,now i need to find/make a pcc similar to this

>> No.44343262

>>44343031
Snipers are mostly good because of decapitation and not losing rage modifier at large distances

>> No.44343365

>>44343243
are you gonna give that pcc to miromi's god pet?

>> No.44343436

>>44343243
you meant, a girl hunter pcc or a vending machine pcc? because i probably have the former

>> No.44343442

>>44343365
Pets use static sprites,not pcc

Why not the plat goose?

>> No.44343454

>>44343442
you can set pets to use pccs

you cant eat plats but you can seeds

>> No.44343551

>>44343436
Hunter yeah,ill see if i can kitbash something with the vanilla sprites
>>44343454
Pets using pcc looks creepy

>> No.44343571
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44343571

>>44343551
>Pets using pcc looks creepy
so you dont want this one?

>> No.44343639

>>44343571
The way it teleports around facing random direction just creeps me anon

I will make sure to save it once i am back home! I was more thinking about forgetting the main quest and just autistically eat herbed food,not enter a dungeon at all until my stats are in the hundreds

>> No.44343685

>>44343639
Thats what you are supposed to do. Combat is the LEAST fun part of this game hence why so many people go pet builds

>> No.44343706
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44343706

>>44343243
>character is different between web novel and the anime
HAAAA

>> No.44343745

>>44343639
pcc for pets are nice because i want a visual difference between a random enemy 'knight of elea' and my daughter, which is a knight of elea

>> No.44343762

>>44343706
they did what now?
ok im dropping this. i felt something was off, now i know why.

>> No.44343815

>>44343762
That anon is dumb those are two completely different characters

>> No.44343926
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44343926

lol nub

>> No.44343957

>shadow uses clone jutsu
>suddenly 30 shadows jump over 3 walls and punch me before i can take a turn
Excuse me?

>> No.44343964

>>44343957
I mean shade,not shadow,but they are dangerous as fuck now to mages like me

>> No.44343994

>>44343964
And if you can kill them using a ball spell or swarm your levels skyrocket.

>> No.44344026

>>44343994
Yeah i noticed that with violent garden,i wonder why is that

>> No.44344031

>>44344026
you get experience per kill+per hit

>> No.44344048

>>44344026
Probably the XP gain on summons wasn't disabled with them. Btw shadow hop's shadows also work if farming XP is necesary

>> No.44344276

>>44343926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QarTW5X0faU#t=9s

>> No.44344353

>>44339896
Check out Noa's pixiv dude.

>> No.44344374
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44344374

>shadow steps behind you
>explodes
psssh...nothin personnel...kid

>> No.44345087
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44345087

Fuck yes.

>> No.44345236

>>44345087
Sexo

>> No.44345308

>>44345087
UWAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!
SEEEEEGGGSSS!!!!
ORE WA SEKKUSU SURUN JANE!!!!

>> No.44345485
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44345485

how do we fix North Tyris's rising alcohol abuse problem

>> No.44345663

>>44345087
fuck you lucky boy

>> No.44345848
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44345848

>>44345485
Nuke Palmia of course

>> No.44346007
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44346007

>>44345087
>It is a stolen item

>> No.44347005

Anyone know why do I sometimes get levelup sounds when I enter the second layer of a Nefia (no levelup though)?

>> No.44347060

>>44347005
That noise is the DESTINY thing activating.

>> No.44347246

>>44343571
Is that made from editing/sprite parts? I swear i have seen that artstyle in some custom pcc

>> No.44347285

>>44347060
Oh huh, that explains why I keep finding piles of godly stuff in threes, thanks

>> No.44348572
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44348572

Anyone else running or have run large parties like me?
I wish the ally cap were higher, so I could fit a couple more little sisters before needing to turn them in.

>> No.44348578

>>44338382
i was asking, who among the ones i got i should take out as pet

>> No.44348874

>>44348572
Feed them, they are hungry.
I used to run a football team like you but feeding them was too tedious for me.

>> No.44349319

>>44348874
The only food these animals get is the morning group breakfast!

>> No.44349559

>>44348572
i used too but it was a pain to micro manage them. also for rp porpuse, i didnt care much about each indivuality. and when i went back to the save file after years, they ware the reason that i said 'fuck it, i dont feel like learning them, ill just make a new chara'

>> No.44349647

>>44348874
On my pet build run I could only take four before they got too tedious.

Noa's said that Elin will have as little micromanagement of villagers as possible so hopefully he's learned something.

>> No.44349920
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44349920

Is there a cap on the stats one can find on equipment in Plus?
I know the base-cap for stats is 2000, but i was wondering what the "hard cap" is with equip.
And if the stats on gear scale, on what do they scale exactly? Level of monster that drops it? Your own level?

>> No.44349965

>>44349920
The wiki has a section on how items are generated. Plus also has a cap on stat boosts via items, mostly to prevent inner god weapon shenanigans.

>> No.44349980

>>44349965
the wiki also has a section on damage modifiers by material equip and it tells us diamond is better than ether...

>> No.44350029

>>44349965
So where can i find it? Is there cap on the stats generated on gear/magnitude of enchantments or does the PC simply not benefit over a certain threshold?

>> No.44350044

>>44348874
For feeding large groups I just dropped whatever food on the ground and skipped turns until all ate lmao

>> No.44350048

>>44348572
>I wish the ally cap were higher
I wonder if there's a simple value to edit to up the ally limit

>> No.44350076

>>44348572
People meme harem runs but I prefer playing solo or only with one (max two) pets, as micromanaging them (especially ones that use equipment) is just too tedious

>> No.44350192
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44350192

>>44348572
My gigantic harem! I love them, and I feed them all individually by hand. All equipped properly with resists and given resistance food. It's not all resists yet but I'm working on it. I bet each of them could beat me 1v1 in a fair fight.

But I still love Jure the most

>> No.44350857

>>44350192
my harem is >>44295554
but maybe 2 IS too small

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44351025

new bread?

>> No.44351399

>>44351025
Is still too soon (page 8)

>> No.44351501

>>44351399
Current jay ain't like the old jay

>> No.44351513

>>44351399
I'm betting it'll take a while to reach p10, maybe not even today

>> No.44352147

You know, one of my main gripes with Elona even after years later is just how adventurers in general just follow the 3 standard classes and nothing else.
And, even after years later, there weren't any new classes to start as. Or even races. You'd think they would let you try it out after so much stuff when it came down to race/class got cut off.

>> No.44352252

>>44352147
If you mean NPC adventurers, most already trash new players if they get unlucky. Throwing some MA adventurer that ORAS greedy players would be funny, though. It doesn't help that you need every stat in some fashion down the line.

>> No.44352294

>>44352252
Of course I meant NPC adventurers, I'm just surprised how a closer look just shows they're either warrior/wizard/archer
You'd expect after so long updating, there'd be some difference down the line on variety

>> No.44352354

>>44352294
Yeah,it's kind of a bummer but i do look at 'em for what they are,a clutch for newbie characters and potential artifact source..i got my super lure from one

>> No.44352543
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44352543

>Wizard boss
>Almost dead
>teleports away
>ADMINISTERS FIRST AID
>Comes back full hp and mauls me
Fuck whoever came up with this idea

>> No.44352774
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44352774

>just ruined my pacifist run
FUUUUUUCK

>> No.44352782

>>44352774
How do you even do a pacifist run

>> No.44352817

>>44352782
talking special action

>> No.44352821

>>44352774
Just F2 my dude

>> No.44352826

>>44352821
already saved over and didnt noticed

>> No.44352877

>>44352543
Looks like people didn't take gentle the face feat enough.

>> No.44352908
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44352908

This game is not healthy for me,i am a masochist

>> No.44352982

>>44352908
Bell squad let's goooo
Why not tag team them?

>> No.44352999

>>44352982
tag team what now?

>> No.44353009

>>44352999
they use less floorspace and share AP between members. It's kinda like riding except they just hold "hands". you use it by interacting with them.

>> No.44353022

>>44353009
sometimes them taking more space has been a lifesaver putting their bodies between me and the enemy,but i will try that out

>> No.44353093

I wish there were muskets for firearms.

>> No.44353098

>>44353093
north tyris is not THAT shit hole of a country grandpa

>> No.44353101

>>44353098
Fuck you too.

>> No.44353126

>>44353098
The fuck you aside, I just think it would be neat for roleplay purposes.

>> No.44353140

>>44353126
Not like anyone uses anything other than laser guns/artifact guns

>> No.44353164

>>44353140
laser muskets then

>> No.44353332

>mfw I just realized the hacking cheetah's are a pun on "cheater"
i feel so retarded

>> No.44353575

>>44352543
Ano: "if players can run away to heal enemies should be able to do it too."

>> No.44354159

>>44352543
my blessed rod of silence is on a hotkey

>> No.44354422
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44354422

>pg 10

>> No.44354555

Is there a player equivalent action for when enemies shoot everything on-screen?

>> No.44354649

>>44354555
swarm for melee weapons

>> No.44354655

>>44352543
>>>teleports away
why didn't you dimensional fish it
why didn't you teleport cage it
why didn't you silence it

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>> No.44355633

>>44355542
Was it worth it?

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