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LN / Light Novel General / ラノベスレ Anonymous Wed, Aug 2, 2023 15:21:19 No.44206414 [Reply] [Original]

This thread is for anything related to the discussion of Japanese light novels, WN / Web Novels included.
Learning Japanese to avoid mistakes and subtext trimming by translations and MTL is highly recommended.

>Finding light novels info:
https://pastebin.com/M5xQxuHm

>Additional resources:
https://lnwncentral.wordpress.com/
https://boroboro.neocities.org/listfullepub.html
>Recommended readers:
Android, Libera https://f-droid.org/en/packages/com.foobnix.pro.pdf.reader/
PC epub reader: https://calibre-ebook.com/
https://reader.ttsu.app/
>WN to e-book downloader:
https://github.com/whiteleaf7/narou

>Main fan TL dump:
https://nyaa.si/view/1202979
>Official translations:
v20.0: https://nyaa.si/view/1680465
v20.1: https://nyaa.si/view/1690883

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>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 2, 2023 15:23:43 No.44206430 What's your top 3 light novels of all time?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 2, 2023 15:32:20 No.44206501 >>44206430 1- Arifureta 2- Arifureta after story 3- Arifureta zero

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 2, 2023 19:23:59 No.44208148 Anyone here have epub for 軍人少女, 皇立魔法学園に潜入することになりました ? zlib only have the volume 1

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 2, 2023 19:34:23 No.44208280 >>44208148 Just buy it bro

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 2, 2023 19:37:17 No.44208308 File: 953 KB, 1052x1496, 1674959341989607.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44208280 already used the money for pic related, being poorfag is suffering

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 2, 2023 19:42:09 No.44208370 >>44206430 Category too broad, choosing is hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 2, 2023 19:43:45 No.44208390 >>44208308 Feels like as of recent years only overlap seems to care about more sci-fi stuff. Weird when their flagship series was arifureta.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 00:13:51 No.44210787 >>44206430 Whatever they are, (You) are all insecure about them.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 00:29:07 No.44210897 i like overlord i like honzuki i like kage i like evil lord i vastly prefer lns to anime sorry if this counts as hate speech

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 00:46:39 No.44211011 >>44210787 >>44210897 Just how pissy are you that you're tying to bring this to another thread?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 00:54:55 No.44211074 >>44211011 I'm just an agent of chaos

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 01:01:37 No.44211118 i'm more of a neutral evil guy myself

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 01:20:32 No.44211270 File: 153 KB, 600x556, 1jkk5dlkjbp1xch7eafhbr53es_l47_go_fg_3uxb.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44206414 Sex. Pure sex.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 11:13:30 No.44214641 >>44206414 >>44211270 why is this author so autistic anyway, he's one of the few that can write girls with a few screws loose so well without killing the plot

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 15:04:08 No.44217116 what are some light novels that have racism?

Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 18:09:43 No.44218265

FUCK, so I just realized that 七つの魔剣が支配する Side of Fire 煉獄の記 exists and now my 'tism about the reading order is flaring up. Should I read that immediately after I'm done with volume 10 or does it not really matter? I don't have that volume on hand right now, but I have the rest.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 18:31:48 No.44218395 >>44206430 1. Tanaka 2. Nishino 3. Sasaki

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 18:39:19 No.44218445 File: 2.92 MB, 1200x1800, pic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44206414 eagerly awaiting accel world volume 26. volume 25 ended on a real cliffhanger.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 18:42:37 No.44218470 >>44218445 Do those two have sex with a man?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 18:44:21 No.44218487 >>44218470 read it yourself and find out.

Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 18:58:56 No.44218607
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Is there any reincarnated as an object/animal/monster LN in which the MC gets into a romantic relationship with girls without changing back into a human form? It can be smut or not. Asking for a friend

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 19:19:44 No.44218755 >>44218265 >'tism about the reading order is flaring up wait is that really a thing? isn't reading by release date enough in most cases?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 3, 2023 19:57:38 No.44219008 >>44218755 It was released on the same day as volume 11.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 01:44:07 No.44221071 >>44218607 Those are always gimmick/meme premises so I doubt it.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 03:15:52 No.44221720 >>44218265 You can read it anytime, it's just alfyn's prequel. If anything, read it after vol 11

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 03:36:09 No.44221836 >>44221720 I'll take your sage advice and read it after volume 11 then.

Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 03:42:01 No.44221889

>The TL group currently doing Mamahaha is so angry at people "stealing" their TLs that they made it so that the TLs on their site are images instead of text
Why are they like this considering they don't even own what they're translating? They seem to be pretty owny about an ILLEGAL TL.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 03:57:57 No.44221968 Is there any problem with creating dump accounts to buy books on bookwalker with the first purchase deal? Like could my accounts get banned for it

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 04:05:09 No.44221999 >>44221889 For some reason the line you have to cross to go from wanting to learn Japanese for your own enjoyment to actually wanting to bother with translating stuff seemingly selects for some despicable personality traits

Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 04:28:20 No.44222161

>>44221889
>>44221999
reading for your own means you either reach a level where you're happy with the basics and ride the slow grind, or go full 'tism studying to squeeze as much intended meaning as you can from what you read
either way the result is chill solo reading, the worst it can happen is the 'tisms sharing the double meanings and references they found, correcting each other or wanking themselves to death over cool chants and special move declarations
looking down on EOPs is not even a thing that happens anymore, the closest thing to it that still happens is the weekly complaining about TLs, but that's more shitting on shitpress and 7S than on EOPs

actually translating for other people attracts a wide variety of red flag personalities, failed writers, donation beggars, donation cartels, attention whores, those wanting to "fix" otaku media out of hatred, a recipe for disaster regardless of who it is and always results in shit TLs
the personality matrix that allows someone to just translate normally to try get as much meaning across to share the fun with others is not only extremely rare these days, those just tell others to learn japanese now instead of TLing, but the rare ones that do exist just work for JNC now or know the vast majority of EOPs aren't worth translating for and keep it to themselves

Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 04:29:38 No.44222175
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>>44218607
Reincarnated as a Behemoth and that one slime rapecave Nocturneshit whose name I forgot. The first one got their side characters (which has their own series) getting knotted, while the second one is just plain smut since the author went schizo after his readers said his previous work's romance/characterization sucks, got actual depiction of bestiality to boot. Dragon egg used to be just monster form for the first ~200 chapters or so, but the MC is an actual unbearable moron that I can't manage to finish reading it. There's also Goblin Kingdom if you argue that demihumans=/=humans, MC being a goblin is an actual plot point and he stays as one until the end. There's quite a lot of those "reincarnated as monsters" series during Kumo/Slime's era, which would be around 2016-2018, might want to search around that range.
>>44206430
Even though I could probably recite Dendro from start to finish, it's gotta be Regios, Ben-to, and Mondai/Index just for the nostalgia factor. Also more than willing to say Slayers, but am not born in its era, so suffice to say it didn't hit me as hard as my gateway LNs.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 05:14:13 No.44222385 >>44222161 What explains the group I'm talking about specifically?

Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 06:56:14 No.44222759

>>44222161
Interestingly the old translator of mamahaha an old B-T veteran retired partly because he got burnt out on all his series getting licenced over the course of a decade plus, when fucking loli shogi somehow got licensed he knew he was cursed. JNC offered to hire him and purchase his Infinite Stratos scripts but he declined as he didn't want to give up his freedom to translate what he wanted.
And it sounds like mamahaha has passed into worse hands.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 07:36:31 No.44222828 >>44222759 >Infinite Stratos that sure brings back memories...

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 08:57:05 No.44223005 >>44222828 Never read it, but I remember how apparently it lost all relevance because the author was obsessed with the main girl that not many people liked and it came at the expense of the other, more popular ones.

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 11:20:31 No.44223612 >>44222759 Couldn't a better group snipe Mamahaha then? The funny thing is that the new group isn't even any good, they're clearly an MTL group, and a bad one at that. And yet they're the ones being super protective of their "translations".

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 12:21:12 No.44224061 >one more mahouka spinoff series The author should contentrate on the sequel instead. At least make it 3 vols per year

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 17:43:16 No.44226926 >>44223612 >snipe just run the text through claude2 and snipe it yourself or shits and giggles, j

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 21:31:35 No.44228292 File: 56 KB, 474x677, OIP.fWBUeU4GgLK9LWnHzn7DDAHaKl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] does anyone have epubs for カノジョの妹とキスをした or 友達の後ろで君とこっそり手を繋ぐ。誰にも言えない恋をする

>>	Anonymous Fri, Aug 4, 2023 22:16:42 No.44228524 desu jewnovelclub will catch up on Mamahaha eventually, so the group are probably just trying to squeeze out what scambucks they can now because the clock is ticking.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 5, 2023 07:09:39 No.44231293 >>44222828 Bad memories most likely.

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 5, 2023 08:47:35 No.44231758 >>44228524 I just don't get why of all TL groups are that protective when they aren't even good and clearly MTL

>>	Anonymous Sat, Aug 5, 2023 13:34:03 No.44233642 What is the consensus on フォーリナーの過ち?

Anonymous Sat, Aug 5, 2023 18:38:53 No.44235314

>>44231758
EOPs don't know any better and even if they do they think "readable in burger" equals a better translation even if it's literal edited MTL and all characters sound like internet shitposters.
This ends up inflating the egos of those translators far too much, and that's the cause of the protectiveness.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 03:13:29 No.44235819 >>44235314 readers of MTL patreonwalled shit are usually ESLs who aren't biased in favor of burgerisms

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 03:13:50 No.44235824 I've realized that Oliver Horn and Kageaki are actually a lot alike. if you're read both, you know what I mean.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 03:30:18 No.44235977 >>44235824 So does Oliver also get a sisterdaughter later?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 03:32:10 No.44235993 >>44235824 who is the muramasa sansei of nanatsuma?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 05:55:14 No.44236983 >>44235819 why would ESLs need english TLs when non-english languages have actually decent fan TL groups

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 06:03:14 No.44237027 >>44236983 because ESL isn't a language

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 06:14:42 No.44237088 >>44236983 Spanish and portuguese Fantrans are toptier from the few i've seen. >>44222161 >>44222759 Take me back to the BT era. At least then, it was about the nip autism when it came to fantrans. Funny how these paywallfags never dmca'd

Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 06:46:39 No.44237259

>>44206430
unironically ありふれた職業で世界最強, i've read it in both ln and wn, the author knows exactly how to trigger my dopamine receptors
治癒魔法の間違った使い方 very likable and fun cast of characters and some good jokes, made me laugh at times which is pretty rare
異世界はスマートフォンとともに。 maximum comfy, "god i wish that was me" the novel

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 07:12:36 No.44237366 >>44206430 >>44206430 saekano mushoku ryuuou no oshigoto >>44222161 >failed writers, donation beggars, donation cartels, attention whores, those wanting to "fix" otaku media out of hatred realest thing I've read this week

Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 07:16:10 No.44237378

You know when you are reading something, it's okayish, then suddenly a couple of immensely retarded reveals/twists ruin all your will to continue reading?

Hell Mode vol 6. I didn't even reach 10% and I don't even feel like reading anymore. Maybe when it's complete, I don't know.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 08:28:52 No.44237671 >>44237259 The constant praise here for arifureta makes me want to read. Which version should I read, ln or wn?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 08:37:35 No.44237702 >>44237378 what even happened to it to cause such strong reaction?

Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 08:50:50 No.44237755

>>44237378
Not a light novel, but yes, Jewelry Hearts Academia ( https://vndb.org/v33175 ) was like that for me.
I really liked the first half and it seemed like the stupid twist was close to the end so I decided to power through to the end, but it turns out the stupid twist was actually the midpoint and the second half was not worth it.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 09:18:44 No.44237837 >>44237671 they are very similar, the ln mostly just has a bit more content and some parts are fleshed out a bit more i'd just go with the ln

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 11:08:20 No.44238294 >>44206414 Is there an alternative fan TLs for "Otome Game no Heroine de Saikyou Survival"? The one on nyaa seems to be MTL. I could only barely finish 2 chapters before giving up

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 12:22:21 No.44238984 Does anyone have the raws for アブソリュート・デュオ? I've found raws up to Volume 9 on the usual places - but not 10, or 11.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 12:46:07 No.44239219 >>44237837 Thanks. >Only 13 vols Shorter than I thought

Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 12:53:50 No.44239325

Has the LN of "Koukousei WEB Sakka no Mote Seikatsu "Anta ga Kami Sakka na Wakenai desho" to Boku wo Futta Osananajimi ga Koukaishiteru kedo Mou Osoi" been axed? There are only two LN volumes released so far, the last one last year, but both the manga and the original WN are still ongoing.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 13:35:32 No.44239797 Rereading 謳えスカイスクレイパー arc of shangrila frontier. However boring the intermediate fights of the series tend to be this author hits it out of the park with the arc ending rush everytime. Especially orchestra's is just かっこいい

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 13:38:40 No.44239821 File: 173 KB, 600x600, 01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it's out!

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 20:52:58 No.44242907 >>44239219 arifureta's pacing is weirdly blazingly fast, for the content covered it could have easily been 30+ volumes

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 21:05:27 No.44243010 >>44242907 maybe if he dragged out the first dungeon and described every single floor but i'm sure as hell glad he didn't

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 21:38:19 No.44243254 Does anybody have the raws for the danmachi astrea record volumes? Haven't been able to find them via the typical sites and won't be able to purchase them since my bank which im looking to switch is up my ass about foreign payments.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 21:55:07 No.44243342 >>44242907 >>44243010 There are a few sections where it could have gone into detail and spent a lot more time on but i wouldn't call it "blazingly" fast

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 22:47:06 No.44243677 Are MTL groups having big egos and overprotectiveness the norm or if the Mamahaha group not the norm?

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 22:53:19 No.44243704 >>44243677 Pretty sure it's the norm, the drama over sniping MTL manga groups is ridiculous.

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 23:39:12 No.44244096 >>44243677 >>44243704 It's only a more recent problem in the LN Fantran scene compared to manga. Can't wait for AI to put these hacks out of business

>>	Anonymous Sun, Aug 6, 2023 23:57:12 No.44244231 >>44244096 or you could just learn japanese

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 00:05:58 No.44244288 >>44244231 Regardless of whether people are at the mercy MTL shitters or not, those fuckers need to be delt with either way. thinking this wont effect you if you know jp is shortsided.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 00:45:28 No.44244584

>>44237702
So two volumes ago the main characters face the largest army ever of demons and reinforcements, lead by an officer that happens to be a deity. Big win.
But ACKSHUALLY that was all according to keikaku, because the REAL super secret demon lord's army is composed entirely of deities, mini gods and ancient evils and shit and they were attacking other gods somewhere.
The leader they beat was a lowly footsoldier. And now what, all enemies are gonna be gods? Power levels went full retard so quickly, so suddenly, that I don't even feel like checking out the rest of the volume.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 00:46:38 No.44244595

>>44244288
Things like this is what make me think the entire TL industry is intentional and malicious sabotage of JP media or at least the perception of it in the west.
BT got murdered in cold blood but somehow DMCAs don't affect any of these MTL groups? Somehow actually good translations are the ones getting DMCA? Why is that not raising more eyebrows?
Either way if takedowns don't deal with MTL shitters then nothing will, you have to keep in mind the average EOP consuming translations already feels like MTL itself is too much effort, even if it's literal copypasting off a WN or epub, how do you expect them to MTL with AI when that's even more effort?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 00:50:32 No.44244637 >>44244584 so that's what people mean when they say hell mode is just a shounen manga in LN form and not in a good way, it's already doing the shounen powercreep at full force

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 01:01:42 No.44244735

>>44244595
>Things like this is what make me think the entire TL industry is intentional and malicious sabotage of JP media or at least the perception of it in the west.
Given the state of western animation/comics, they have to be trying some shit
>Somehow actually good translations are the ones getting DMCA? Why is that not raising more eyebrows?
QRD? i'm out of the loop since dipping closer and closer to learning jp
> how do you expect them to MTL with AI when that's even more effort?
The moment there is a plug and play AI that can handle documents with little to no command tweaks is the moment paywallfags start panicking. You would be surprised what lazy EOP's are capable of when motivated out of spite.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 02:43:50 No.44245649

>>44244595
My guess is paywalling shit got common enough that groups pop up faster enough than you can smack them down with DMCAs. Though with 7shit and cumpress being the ones throwing DMCAs, it's just watching crabs in a bucket really. I guess that's why most people tell you just to learn Japanese, there's no one in the English sector worth giving money to.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 03:51:54 No.44246157 >>44243254 I have them, will upload them later. And what did you do that made your bank get pissy about foreign transactions lol.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 04:32:20 No.44246402 >>44243254 >>44246157 here https://files.catbox.moe/korsmo.zip

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 04:32:26 No.44246405

>>44245649
the jewnovel CEO once tried to send DMCA takedown to cnine for 望まぬ不死の冒険者 and nuke his patreon because the concept of paywalled MTL just personally disgusted him, and the process actually took so much effort and time to achieve so little that he never bothered trying again and just stuck with the "do it faster and better" approach that they did with stuff like RTD's isesuma
this was before they got bought by kadokawa though so maybe if they wanted to do it now they could just get the kadokawa lawyers idk

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 04:46:58 No.44246507 Anyone have 乙女ゲー世界はモブに厳しい世界です12 epub?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 04:49:39 No.44246528 >>44246405 >nuke his patreon because the concept of paywalled MTL just personally disgusted him Based. Say what you will, but it seems like JNC have people who genuinely care about the source material more often then not

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 05:16:58 No.44246672 >>44246405 wait hold on JNC is owned by kadokawa directly?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 06:04:03 No.44246952 >>44246672 Yup, majority owned since 2 years ago. Original owner is still in charge though

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 06:24:51 No.44247095 >>44221968 your cards might get blocked

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 06:40:40 No.44247196 >>44221968 >>44247095 i've done it 9 times and haven't been blocked yet

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 07:40:44 No.44247594 I need a recommendation for something very very easy to read, but that isn't boring slice of life stuff or kuma bear.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 07:42:00 No.44247600 File: 1.47 MB, 3015x1953, 001.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44247594

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 07:52:28 No.44247648 File: 203 KB, 265x377, IMG_7432.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When does it get good?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 07:57:10 No.44247668 >>44247648 It never gets good. But there's enough shit on the market that it looks like gold.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 08:51:10 No.44247870 >>44244584 yeah I gave up on hell mode after volume 4 series started off fun what with gaming the summoning mechanics but it escalated way too fast

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 09:19:39 No.44247954 >>44247600 I'll try out 剣と魔法とセーラー服, looks cute

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 10:07:14 No.44248141 File: 962 KB, 1908x1536, 01_000b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >is zero raws in your way

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 10:13:28 No.44248196
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>>44206430
1. rakudai kishi
2. are you okay with a slightly older girlfriend
3. archdemon's dilemma
If single volumes count then empty box and zeroth maria vol. 1 would be my top pick, but I really can't judge it well just based on that. Really wish choppiri would get more volumes but apparently it's finished at 6. Atleast musume janakute is getting translations and I still have a couple volumes of boku no kanojo sensei ahead of me. hagchads stay winning.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 10:18:56 No.44248239

>>44246157
>>44246402
Thanks a lot anon
>And what did you do that made your bank get pissy about foreign transactions lol
I tried to make the switch over to amazon jp, when i tried to purchase the nanatsu volumes that haven't been uploaded as epubs, it got flagged for fraud. Had to talk to the bank about getting a new card and shit

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 11:02:42 No.44248557 >>44248196 >are you okay with a slightly older girlfriend Was this axed? I'm surprised it never got an anime considering it got a manga.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 11:34:46 No.44248893 >>44247594 黒の召喚士 is on the easy side rather than very very easy but at least it's not SoL

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 12:04:48 No.44249162 >>44248239 >switching over to amazon jp You mean changing the account's country? What's the benefit over opening a completely new jp account?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 12:44:01 No.44249487 >>44249162 As in switching from bookwalker to amazon jp - not changing an account's country, since it's apparently easier to rip stuff as epubs as opposed to scripts which screenshot stuff as is the case with bookwalker.

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 15:33:33 No.44250900

>>44249487
I see, your bank is just being shitheads. Tangential, but did you have to pay the 10% consumption tax on bookwalker? People say that it won't be applied if you change location from japan with vpn but that doesn't work for me so I had to stick with amazon

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 15:39:54 No.44250945 >>44250900 not that anon, but it works for me when i use a vpn to set my location to japan i have to pay it, when i turn off the vpn (i live in europe) i don't have to pay it

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 16:23:06 No.44251296 日本語訳がグーグル先生以下でたまに意味不明の文章に出くわします。 whatever translation it will get will be worse than mtl like divinity

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 18:37:15 No.44252099 What's the best site to get LN recommendation? Amazon jp keep giving the same bunch of LN while Kimirano gave lots of axed LN

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 19:47:21 No.44252589
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>>44250945
Huh, wonder why it doesn't work for me. Can you post your screenshot of latest kumakuma vol page from here please https://bookwalker.jp/de92d2f401-54b8-46fd-932e-59fee7f7959c/
The image is how it's displayed to me.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 19:49:16 No.44252605 >>44252589 you have to go to checkout

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>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 19:54:06 No.44252647 >>44252605 Oh, thanks. So I was just being an idiot. They should at least change how the price is displayed out of country

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 19:55:40 No.44252660 >>44252589 Unrelated, but would you mind sharing Vol. 20 if you actually buy it?

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 21:26:35 No.44253238 >new coomer coomer coomer bear volume wtf why did no one tell me

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 21:54:49 No.44253396

>>44252099
unironically probably here, any other board doesn't care, NU got overtaken by literal KRshill review bots, and both reddit and MAL will just give you entry level EOP stuff like overlord or MT, discord servers are just reddit colonies, and jp boards are (thankfully) still elitist and will rec you literal shitposts in LN form if you sound like a newfag, or worse, a JSL

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 22:05:28 No.44253460 >>44253396 >overlord and MT are entry level I miss when 4chan didn't immediately turn on any older narou series that gets popular to the point of history revision

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 22:09:07 No.44253484 >>44253460 agreed

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 22:12:04 No.44253497 >>44253460 and i miss when newfags didn't equal entry level with "bad" objectively speaking those are entry level when they are gateway series, the kind of thing that ends up being a lot of people's first LN

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 22:15:43 No.44253521 >>44253497 overlord is a huge filter actually

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 22:18:01 No.44253531 >>44253521 Anyone "filtered" by baby's first genocide is just looking for a reason to drop it after the slog that is the lizard sex volume and the one immediately afterwards.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 22:22:20 No.44253567 >>44253497 >i miss when newfags didn't equal entry level with "bad" >kind of thing that ends up being a lot of people's first LN maybe to an actual newfag who started reading LNs in the last couple years... they weren't even the first big isekai LNs.

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 22:37:31 No.44253676 >>44253460 what are you smoking? >Naruto is a gateway series of the worst kind is ancient kopipe

Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 22:48:13 No.44253747

When i think of entry level series, it's usually something simple, easy to read/get into and requiring minimal knowledge/familiarity/adjustment to common tropes within the genre. Something without a big requirement of investment to pick up or continue reading, especially not if it's a long over arching series that's narrative heavy.
I wouldn't call something like say mahouka an entry level series just because it was alot of peoples's gateway battle academy LN

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 22:49:41 No.44253761 >>44253676 is ancient kopipe I'd give you a "no u" but i dont speak ESL

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 22:57:27 No.44253819 konosuba is the definition of entry level

>>	Anonymous Mon, Aug 7, 2023 23:03:42 No.44253871 >>44253819 This, kuma bear, oregairu, isekai smartphone ect fit the bill. I'd even say SAO to an extent, especially early on.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 01:16:31 No.44254619 >>44253761 would it help if I wrote コピペ instead?

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 04:51:19 No.44255800
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anon here >>44228292, some time after making that post I found both on some discord server named moeway that seems to have a decent amount of people sharing raws
Just finished reading ImoKisu and unfortunately I'll need to go to sleep feeling depressed tonight.
I was already prepared for a bad end so it was a bit more cope-able than I expected in some ways, but having enjoyed and smiled so much at the cute Shigure and mc interactions through the volumes I really wanted them to just be happy. This bittersweet ending is probably hitting me harder than a full bad one would.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 05:24:37 No.44256034 >>44255800 The bittersweetness of drama romances can get addicting and it can cause severe long lasting emotional damage, just don't overdo it bro.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 07:31:11 No.44256731 >>44254619 I'm actually surprised hover dictionaries pick that up.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 10:02:36 No.44257440

>>44248557
originally the author had plans for 3 volumes in terms of story. because they were successful he made another 2 volume arc and pretty much wrapped up all character arcs with vol. 6. it wasn't officially axed but no new volume in years. I really don't know where the manga came from. and I don't think we can expect an anime adaption. would be really cool though.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 12:26:19 No.44259001 >>44253396 >unironically probably here, Any good new SF LN? preferably that have less than 3 volumes

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 12:28:07 No.44259030 >>44259001 >>44208308

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 12:34:16 No.44259141 >>44259030 Already bought that, still waiting for delivery. Got anything else?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 13:55:52 No.44260160 >>44206414 How do the Monogatari localizations hold up? Are they decent? Currently learning Japanese for the later books and some other stuff but reading the english translations right now

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 14:00:40 No.44260217 >>44260160 you're spending time reading english books while learning japanese? don't you hours spent is the number one factor in learning japanese?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 14:04:42 No.44260263 >>44260217 I can only learn so much kanji at one time. My tutor said to be careful to avoid burnout.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 14:47:27 No.44260621 >>44260263 There's no such thing as this. You don't learn through selecting a number of kanji and deciding to learn it that day like a fucking game, just read and words come to you naturally.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 14:50:29 No.44260651 >>44260263 the bigger danger is losing interest because you spend way more time on "studying" instead of trying to read and understand the things you're actually interested in, which is how you get good

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 14:53:00 No.44260680 >>44260263 your tutor wants you to stay dependent as long as possible to make more money off of you

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:04:09 No.44260780

>>44260621
>just read and words come to you naturally.
I can't read kanji though anon
>>44260651
I've been going pretty steadily for about 3 months and only gaining motivation, I expect somewhere around the end of the year I'll be able to start reading on my own
>>44260680
My tutor is a personal friend, I don't give him any money

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:18:57 No.44260913

>>44260780
i'm 11 months in and have read 2 series plus 4 lengthy VNs and multiple anime and manga series...if you start now you'll be way ahead by the end of the year compared to the timeline in which you wait until the end of the year to start. by the way forcing yourself to memorize kanji without reading is painfully slow and inefficient

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:19:41 No.44260919 >>44259001 >preferably that have less than 3 volumes but why

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:21:24 No.44260932 >>44260780 If you don't have a dictionary haven't learnt anything

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:30:53 No.44261042

>>44260913
How am I supposed to start reading without knowing a bunch of kanji? I seriously don't understand. Unless you mean reading digitally and using a digital dictionary via copy & paste, but frankly that sounds tedious and irritating
>>44260932
I have a physical one and an app downloaded to my phone

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:32:42 No.44261065 >>44261042 yomichan

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:33:41 No.44261075

>>44260780
Well, everyone has their own way of doing things but personally I think you shouldn't wait for a specific date to start consuming media anon. You will find learning most effective when you read something in parallel, even if it's extremely difficult initially. For example browse nhkeasy news or force yourself to read something like yotsubato.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:33:53 No.44261078 >>44260919 Because I already read most of ongoing SF LN

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:36:46 No.44261105 >>44261042 >physical dictionary literally useless and gigantic waste of time, just use a digital dictionary on every word you don't know. How is this hard to understand?

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:37:31 No.44261108

>>44260780
is your tutor japanese? if yes, he probably doesn't know how to learn japanese as a jsl efficiently
is your tutor not japanese? if so and he's a normie it's very likely he doesn't know japanese very well and his methods are shit. has he actually read a lot of japanese material?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:38:28 No.44261114 >>44261042 >Unless you mean reading digitally and using a digital dictionary via copy & paste name a beter method. you can't

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:40:03 No.44261127

>>44261042
>frankly that sounds tedious and irritating
You are completely right, even if you use something like yomichan. But it's also extremely effective. And it doesn't take too long to pass through this phase actually, like under a week for something like yotsubato if you have a basic grasp of the grammar and common vocab.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:40:07 No.44261129 >>44261114 hover dictionaries no, taking the time to copy and paste does not improve how fast you'll acquire the word, it's just wasted time

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:44:19 No.44261165 >>44259001 I know this out of topic just read vn if you want that short

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:47:50 No.44261194

>>44261042
>but frankly that sounds tedious and irritating
Yet it's unironically the most efficient method to read and learn.
It barely takes a day or two to read up basic grammar, from there you can read as good as MTL is if you look up every new word you don't know (all of them) and the bottom floor only goes up from there.
Even for a complete brainlet it barely takes 3 months to be better than MTL, and about a year or two in you only need occasional dictionary use.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:49:01 No.44261203 >>44261129 I don't trust those things with every reading desu, you end up having to manually copy past a lot of the time anyway to fix it. besides, I dont read novels on my desktop

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:50:05 No.44261210 >>44261165 VN are just too slow and has too much bullshit before you get to the meat of the story.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:50:06 No.44261211

>>44261075
I tried reading Yotsubato but found myself looking up so many words that it became extremely tedious just to translate a page, and I wasn't really remembering anything. If I have a foundation I think it will be more enjoyable to read and still look things up when I don't understand them.
>>44261105
>just use a digital dictionary on every word you don't know
Anon, if I don't know how to type the kanji, how do I look it up? I read physical books
>>44261108
He's jsl and not a normie, he regularly reads JP news sites for game and anime news
>>44261114
>>44261129
Doesn't work on my physical books, I learn better with hard copies, I even keep some notes on some kanji
>>44261127
I don't know for sure that I have a basic grasp of vocab and grammar, most kanji I've learned so far are pretty simple but cracking open Yostubato, the kanji are pretty complex. I still feel I need to progress my radicals so I can more easily identify the complex ones
>>44261194
But how do you learn to recognize such complex kanji? The characters are so detailed. I know immersion is the fastest way to learn but I feel like I'll just not understand things and get burnt out fast

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:50:54 No.44261218

>>44261203
>you end up having to manually copy past a lot of the time anyway to fix it
not at all the case with yomichan, it's very rare that it'll fuck up and if it does the word was probably rare enough that you don't have to care if you're a beginner
it does happen on kindle though because it's not as good as recognizing compounds and verb declinations

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:52:05 No.44261227 >>44261211 >I learn better with hard copies geez

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 15:59:27 No.44261279 >>44261211 >Doesn't work on my physical books, I learn better with hard copies, I even keep some notes on some kanji same thing, just type (and find the kanji) instead of copy paste. truth is i only copy paste LNs, everything else I type out

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 16:00:37 No.44261290

>>44261211
>I tried reading Yotsubato
Well, then there's nothing to say as long as you are not obsessed with sticking to a particular timeline or learning schedule. You are the best person to evaluate your capabilities so just remember to try reading something from time to time and see if you progressed enough to continue reading with some effort.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 16:01:42 No.44261299 >>44261211 Either write them out on a writing to character converter or just get yourself some epubs and save yourself time and money >I learn better with hard copies clearly not

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 16:05:18 No.44261333 >>44261211 >But how do you learn to recognize such complex kanji? If you can't just copypaste then learn radicals. The simpler ones are barely any harder than kana and make up for 90% of the kanji you will ever see.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 16:08:42 No.44261354 >>44261165 nta but SFags probably also already read the VN stuff that would come to mind as recs like muv-luv

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 16:10:04 No.44261364

>>44261211
>recognize such complex kanji
not what you'd expect actually, more complex only means harder to write. the harder kanji are the ones that you can confuse with others, which are usually more complex ones, but plenty of complex ones are also really distinct and hard to mix up with others.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 16:12:32 No.44261384 >>44261203 pretty sure yomichan and jisho use the same database, in most cases the results are 100% identical

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 16:56:15 No.44261726 >>44261384 They both use JMDict but Yomichan's is outdated so they occasionally differ. 甲斐甲斐しい is totally wrong on Yomichan's jmdict dictionary.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 19:12:58 No.44262824 Stupid question but how much is the most expensive one volume LN on Kindle? 1300 yen?

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 19:14:22 No.44262833 >>44262824 1.5k is not exactly rare

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 21:25:26 No.44263811

>>44260263
>learning kanji
You need to learn vocabulary, not kanji. Best thing is immersion - try reading along with audio books or start with visual novels or anime with jap subs. Also good to start off re-watching or re-reading things you've already done but in japanese.
Worst thing to do is wait. Saying things like "i need x amount of vocab or x amount of time before starting this thing" will always hold you down and you'll keep pushing it off and then feel like dogshit when you can't do it. You can always reread the book or watch the anime AGAIN. It doesn't disappear once you experienced it once.

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 22:59:16 No.44264400

Where to get the raw bros? Recently i got burnt out from consuming way too much animu and vn so i moved on to LN but i don't know where to get raws other than nyaa. Preferably an actual epub rip instead of low resolution screencap like what most i can find on nyaa. Right now I'm looking for ゲーム世界転生〈ダン活〉. There's vol 1-3 on nyaa but it's a low res screen cap and near the end of vol 1 it's starting to have missing page. Also, I'm a poorfag so buying isn't an option.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 23:14:36 No.44264504 >>44264400 Z-lib, dlraw, moeway discord, or abusing amazon refund policy

Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 23:30:30 No.44264627
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>>44261211
If you really want to read physical books, gboard or google translate's japanese handwriting input (pic related) are great at recognizing kanji, even if you ignore stroke order.
However, using yomichan on an ebook is much less frustrating, as the best way to learn is by brute force. In my opinion, an even better way to learn would be visual novels with Textractor and yomichan, since having voiced lines really help. A few years ago Axanael was a fairly common recommendation for beginners, because it is pretty simple and has almost no unvoiced lines.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 23:32:10 No.44264635 >>44264504 >dlraw Well, the one with missing pages are uploaded by dlraw though. I'll try the others ty bros.

>>	Anonymous Tue, Aug 8, 2023 23:45:52 No.44264710 >>44264504 Which mirror of z-lib are safe?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 01:53:05 No.44265352 would anybody happen to have the epubs for shinyaku toaru no majutsu?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 03:00:24 No.44265757 >>44264710 The tor site onw

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 08:01:01 No.44267101

>>44264627
>since having voiced lines really help
While they help, you don't NEED them.
Something that also helps is voicing what you read out loud, somehow that makes the language stick to the monkey brain far better than trying to do it silently or through inner monologue.
And don't come at me with the cope of saying it would be cringe, you're already learning another language to read anime books, either go all the way or don't bother.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 08:23:16 No.44267218 >>44267101 >Something that also helps is voicing what you read out loud terrible idea you'll just solidify incorrect pronounciation

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 08:33:02 No.44267263

>>44267218
Bad habits are a meme, this shit isn't literal substance addictions like drugs, it's just saying a word wrong.
And who cares when you will learn vocab exponentially faster while solving the pronunciation errors doesn't take that much effort either?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 08:47:36 No.44267316 >>44267263 >you will learn vocab exponentially faster >solving the pronunciation errors doesn't take that much effort you really shouldn't be giving advice

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 08:51:07 No.44267332 >>44267316 to be fair 90% of the people here will never use the spoken portion of their jp skills in any real situation, it will be almost exclusively input and maybe text output

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 08:58:56 No.44267362

>>44267263
>Bad habits are a meme
I don't know about that one just like at how many ESLs there are who sound like absolute fucking retards because they never learned proper pronounciation, it'd probably take months of deliberate practice to fix that kind of thing

>>44267332
While that is true, it's not a valid reason to recommend it as a method when it will absolutely make things more difficult for the people who do want to eventually speak Jap. Especially since the benefits aren't even that great, you're not going to learn "exponentially faster" lol. But if you really think it would help you, at least do it with voiced content

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 11:39:07 No.44268204 >生物の人格、性格は25パターンくらいしか... How the fuck am I even supposed to know that he is referencing to pokemon...

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 11:54:06 No.44268336

>>44261042
VNs are your friend.
>voiced
>bite-sized text
>can just choose a VN that plays nice with texthookers to make lookups easy, no copy paste, no OCR, no nothing
>long as fuck so you get comfortable with setting specific vocabulary and the author's style
I drilled the core 2.3k deck in a month and started reading muv luv. Halfway through the first one, I was having fun and pulling 10+ hour days. You can't do that with a textbook.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 12:01:00 No.44268389 File: 75 KB, 1024x525, try not to cry.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44268336 >muv luv

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 12:05:32 No.44268452 >>44268389 Yep. That's it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 12:06:58 No.44268470 >>44268336 how did you survive any time yuuhi opened her fucking mouth

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 12:11:13 No.44268527 >>44268470 By the time Yuuhi appears Class Rep has flapped her mouth for at least 1/5 of the previous games.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 12:12:47 No.44268553 >>44268470 Just imagine it's Meiya and you can put up with it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 12:59:35 No.44269102 >>44264504 >moeway dicsord I joined them but i don't see any channel for sharing raws. Do i need to manually search for people sharing their purchase?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 13:07:06 No.44269190 >>44269102 Do their kanji quiz and get student role

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 13:30:51 No.44269451 What's with all these romcom LNs having just one or two volumes? Were they axed or were they intended to be oneshots to begin with?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 14:12:35 No.44269820 >>44269190 How to do it? I'm not well versed in using discord.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 14:54:56 No.44270118 >>44269820 go into any of the quiz channels and paste this k!quiz jpdb1k(1-300) 25 hardcore nd mmq=10 dauq=1 font=5 color=#f173ff size=100 then answer the questions

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 16:07:27 No.44270671

>>44269102
moway is just a scam site. I've been using the "moeway" guide for a while and IMO its not worth it , it's not a good guide it isn't written well and requires too much effort for no good reason. It's more than a Jap learning method more like Mehmet's (shoui's) lifestyle choices he's forcing onto you IMO.
i think the Tatsumoto guide is better (Decided to start using it a week ago) because they are more focused/streamlined idk how you call it.
You can join the DJT matrix space here https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/join-our-community

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 16:09:25 No.44270686 >>44269820 Avoid discord like a plague. It's literally malware. See https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord There are better alternatives, such as matrix: https://joinmatrix.org/

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 16:13:32 No.44270710 >>44270671 >>44270686 Pretty sure that anon only want to download LN raw, and moeway discord has a lot of new shit compared other places

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 16:22:43 No.44270756 >>44206430 konosuba kuma kuma kuma bear bakemonogatari

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 16:31:16 No.44270801 >>44270710 >LN raw can be found here https://tatsumoto.neocities.org/blog/resources#books

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 16:36:30 No.44270827

>>44268336
>core 2.3k
I'm not sure about that. You see, all "Core" Anki decks are based on newspapers from early 90s and sometimes additionally sorted in a way that makes learning harder. The format of the cards also tends to be WCC instead of a more efficient TSC. Ankidrone Starter Pack is made from a COMPLETELY different corpus ー everyday words used commonly in Japan. I would rather get Ankidrone Starter Pack.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 16:38:49 No.44270841 >>44270801 Keyword: new shit

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 16:39:22 No.44270848 stop responding to any post containing the words "tatsumoto", "tsc", "ankidrone" and "matrix" he is a well-known shitposter from /djt/ who for some reason decided to suddenly put his drivel into this thread as well

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 16:46:56 No.44270889 >>44270848 >tatsumoto Based. I owe my fluency in japanese entirely to tatsumoto.

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 16:54:22 No.44270933

>>44270848
yeah, I know, felt like typing out a response since it missed the point of my post so completely, then when I went to google those nonsense acronyms it led straight to someone's patreon
look at his greentext, obviously triggered the bot into dropping his usual sales pitch
my bad for using some no-no words

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:01:20 No.44270975 >>44270671 you can't talk about scams while listing your spam scam site at the same time tatsucuckold

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:01:57 No.44270979 >>44270933 >straight to someone's patreon lol bullshit

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:03:34 No.44270990 >>44270975 tatsumoto probably doesn't know what 4chan is

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:04:24 No.44270996 File: 67 KB, 513x511, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44270979 ye rly

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:09:21 No.44271031 >>44270996 the first result is the right one the second result is just an old announcement

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:14:10 No.44271056 >>44271031 no one asked

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:16:38 No.44271077 >>44271056 >brainlet

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:16:41 No.44271078 >>44271031 kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:27:20 No.44271141 >>44271078 eat shit retard

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:28:18 No.44271148 There's a bookwalker campaign starting soon that gives 45% coinback for purchases above 1.5k yen and books published before 10th july. It's a good time if any anon plans to buy missing books from a series

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:29:21 No.44271155 File: 97 KB, 1682x735, Campaign.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44271148

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:39:10 No.44271196 >>44271148 45% coinback, so if I bought 10 000 yen worth of ln/manga, I will get 4 500 yen worth of coins back to buy stuff on bookwalker?

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:43:04 No.44271219

>>44271148
>>44271196
thanks for the heads-up anon - if you combine this with the 50% bonus for new accounts you get almost 100% back
>I will get 4 500 yen worth of coins back to buy stuff on bookwalker?
yes, but it gets better because when you spend those 4.5k during the campaign, you'll get another 2.25k, and so on and so forth

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 17:43:55 No.44271226 >>44271148 >>44271155 I wonder if the reason their deals are always so great is because of the DRM.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 19:17:43 No.44271790 >>44270848 probably because any given thread is 40-80% shitting on shitpress and 7S and telling people to learn japanese if you tally all the advice given, this general probably has given better advice than djt in the last few years combined

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 19:19:37 No.44271804 >>44270710 Can someone already inside there mirror the stuff they upload? Not everyone wants to use discord.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 19:20:15 No.44271811 >>44271790 depends on which djt you're talking about in the last couple of years the advice in jp djt has mostly been identical to the advice given here the djt on int however is giving r*ddit tier advice

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 20:40:46 No.44272305 >>44270118 >pasted this >ez >someone joined midway and typed faster than my ass on phone >only managed to answer 18 >still no student role Uhh, is this supposed to be some kind of battle royal shit? How many score do i need to get the student role?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 21:24:30 No.44272574 >>44272305 If I'm understanding the command correctly, you need to answer 25 correct answers and get disqualified when you miss 10 questions. It's not supposed to be PVP, so whoever did that was rude

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 21:44:06 No.44272723 俺が…　俺が…　俺が禿頭外人だああああああ！！！！！

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 21:50:44 No.44272792 >>44271804 seconding this, it's too much hassle

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 21:55:31 No.44272831 lots of books from there have been re-posted here in the past no one is going make the effort to mirror every fucking book if you're too lazy/retarded to join a discord server buy shit yourself

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:02:21 No.44272885 >>44271219 Oh I didn't see they don't make epub, well, guess I will pass on it then

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:03:48 No.44272892 >>44272831 only lazy retarded little children join discord servers, little broccoli bro

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:06:46 No.44272915 >>44269190 In which channel are the links?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:08:05 No.44272924 >>44272915 what do you think?

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:08:57 No.44272931
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>>44237088
>Take me back to the BT era
this. post-tokyopop crash was genuinely a golden age for fan translations of LNs. threads for shit like DxD and campione got to a bajillion zillion posts on places like animesuki. there was legitimate momentum behind LNs in those days while the market wasn't too saturated.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:09:07 No.44272932 >discord shilling Really now

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:10:35 No.44272951 in other news: new round of overlap has been announced no arifureta after

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:10:41 No.44272952 >>44272931 The problem isn't LN saturation, look back at stuff released then and you will see the good:shit ratio was about exactly the same. The actual problem is active sabotage from the western side to kill otaku media in the west.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:11:36 No.44272963 >>44272932 Anyone here have epub for 軍人少女, 皇立魔法学園に潜入することになりました ? zlib only have the volume 1

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:13:07 No.44272975 >>44272574 bullshit, it explicitly gives points to whoever answers first, it's literally PvP

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:15:20 No.44272993 >>44272975 you're not supposed to interfere in someone else's quiz so feel free to complain to the fucking discord mods instead of posting about it here where it doesn't belong and nobody cares

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:16:40 No.44273010 >>44272993 your discord server is shit and i hope someone leaks all the uploaded stuff

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:16:53 No.44273014

>>44272952
>The problem isn't LN saturation, look back at stuff released then and you will see the good:shit ratio was about exactly the same.
I'd disagree. LN premises 10 years ago were far more varied and esoteric. The premises for accel world, campione, index, horizon, etc. were all far more interesting than isekai #1000 but (insert gimmick here). sure, there was shit too, but even the shit had stuff going for it a lot of the time.
>The actual problem is active sabotage from the western side to kill otaku media in the west.
but this is genuinely true. there are many ideologically motivated actors in the translation space and not just in LNs. it's a real bummer.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:17:08 No.44273017 >>44272951 god damn it. i'm considering whether i should cave and read the wn version, he just started to write new chapters again too.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:18:39 No.44273031 >>44273014 if you think LNs are just isekai now then you really need to read more stuff, as only isekai gets translated apparently so it appears that way to the west and honestly i'm starting to buy into this schizo theory now

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:19:44 No.44273038

>>44273017
the LN is just WN+
the changes are minimal and when they exist they just add more content without changing what's already there, the only exception is the final fight which got extended
you can read the LN all the way to the end then start on the afterstory in the novel

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:21:00 No.44273051 >>44273038 i know but i can't track the wn on bookmeter

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:22:00 No.44273066 >>44273010 >and i hope someone leaks all the uploaded stuff Be the one, Anonymous.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:25:31 No.44273104 >>44273038 there are some more differences i'm pretty sure kaori and shizuku didn't get deflowered in the isekai during the wn but the ln mentioned it near the end

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:25:35 No.44273106

>>44273031
I am reading quite a bit these days. I'd say almost as much as I was in BT's golden age. however, the only relatively recent series I'm reading that aren't isekai are
>オーク英雄物語　～忖度列伝～
>ゴブリンスレイヤー
and the latter of the 2 is definitely on the older side. I'm reading
>烙印の紋章
too, but that's old as dirt. pre-tokyopop crash but somehow never made it to the west.
If you've got recs for more recent stuff that isn't isekai I'm all ears.

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:44:15 No.44273254

>>44273106
>something any MTfag would know
>literal entry level stuff even normalfags wank, and copedified the native isekai meme no less
>something recommended from here within the last thread and this one
yeah, read more, your knowledge is as shallow as a puddle

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:47:44 No.44273279

>>44273254
>something recommended from here within the last thread and this one
I was unaware the last thread started 3 months ago. I'll just take it as you having nothing worthwhile. at least, nothing you're willing to air out for the entirety of the thread to mock you over.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:50:40 No.44273307 >>44273279 so you did get it from this general lol like i said, read more anon

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:54:42 No.44273346

>>44273307
I am, but I'm not finding anything I care about and end up dropping stuff due to disinterest. I've dropped more series than I've taken active interest in. I started reading the thing in the OP too and caught up in 2 days, but the genderbender stuff in the most recent volume has me inclined to drop it.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:55:03 No.44273348 >>44273014 Isekai hasn't been the main trend since 2020 when stuff like hell mode killed the interest and novelty of it and the arifureta LN finally ending on 2022 closed an entire era and put the final nail in the coffin.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 22:59:00 No.44273374 >>44273346 >but the genderbender stuff in the most recent volume has me inclined to drop it. That stuff was over 2 volumes back not counting the spinoff or the WN, that's forever ago. Have the TLs really not caught up yet?

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:01:13 No.44273387 >>44273374 I got all I could of the TLs the day before yesterday and vol. 5 was the last of the bunch.

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:01:25 No.44273391

>>44272931
>animesuki is now a grave yard time capsule
The thing i miss the most was the sense of community. everyone was in either BT/AS or here on 4chan for spoilers. People actually talked about the series they followed instead of 'muh look at my cool shelf' or 'muh taste snobbery'. Theory crafting and power scaling threads were unironically heated discussions, but both sides of arguments came from people who actually engaged with the material at hand.
Now, all the fantrans/LN forums have moved from blogs to discord, some even locking them behind a paywall, all of which are basically reddit colonies.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:03:02 No.44273401 >>44273346 >>44273387 >EOP talking like he knows shit lol

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:05:25 No.44273422 >>44273401 I suppose no one can piss over your reading list if you don't post it, but I'll assume it's shit until proven otherwise.

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:06:11 No.44273428

>>44273387
Well yeah, this is why you should learn japanese, to avoid being spoonfed only garbage shitpress and shitseas feel like regurgitating into your mouth.
After someone brought it up I have the evil lord TLs a speedread and honestly it's one of the worst translations I have seen in recent memory, it's quite literally worse than fanfiction from how much the characters change despite following the original plot.
You need to be actively malicious and trying to sabotage something to have a translation that awful, even just straight up AI MTL gave me better results than the shitseas version, though deepTL still lags behind and is a bit too robotic.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:11:16 No.44273466 >>44273428 >shitseas I've been beginning to wonder about that. I've never read a LN TL'd by them that I liked, but every one I've read done by JNC has been at least okay, isekai or not.

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:13:03 No.44273470 sucks 7S got COTE, it would have been wanked here far more than dendro sucks shitpress got spellblades too, for just about the same reason

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:20:47 No.44273516

>>44273466
JNC is the only company that gives a shit. For Any other series from elsewhere that i follow, if i can the raws for them, i wont even bother ripping the 'official' release
>>44273470
>spellblades
the they/them shit with carlos almost made me drop the series. I can only imagine how many others got filtered by shit the author didn't intend

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:37:22 No.44273625

>>44273466
Like I said, intentional sabotage.
Just with liam alone the TL makes him sound like a clueless moron at all times, which later makes no sense when he puts his foot down when his two main knight girls manage to piss him off (and other things).
But no, liam isn't a clueless moron, that's the entire point of the prologue, he was an idiot but out of naivety, not actual stupidity (someone truly dumb would have died sooner), and the entire first volume explores that.
He knows he's an idiot, he knows knowledge is power, he knows he has no knowledge, so he goes ahead and fixes those problems one by one, then later on when he has power and is used to the social dynamics of this new world, he starts forcing his whims as he intended.
By the time the toy hammer scene happens he's aware and has enough self control to let out steam in a way that wouldn't cause severe consequences later, he didn't go on a blind murder rampage, he just smacked people around to assert dominance.
He is not dumb or unwise, he just genuinely wants to live as he wishes and has a "Why should I care?" attitude due to it, but his personality doesn't let him be fully sociopath cruel either.
It's extremely straightforward character growth, it's not perfect (in my opinion the capsules are a bit of a copout, but the blow is lessened from needing to study manually and use that knowledge anyway), but as far as things go, not only you could do a lot worse, it's well above average without any critical flaws, making it simply good with no ifs or buts.
And I just know the TLer saw the scenes of liam sword training and thought "this is one of those parody animes like konosuba, people like konosuba, right?" and made the entire thing into an abridged parody yet again, missing the point that the joke in those scenes is that he got hired to teach, and his nonsense teachings worked, instead the entire thing is made to have that meme-parody tone, so the force of the contrast is completely lost because everything is played out like a cheap joke.
That level of awkward dissonance between plot beats in the TL with none of the depth make it feel like an abridged parody forced to follow the original plot than a translation.
And boy, I could go on all day just from volume one alone, but just learn japanese and read it by yourself as the author intended instead of the horrid vomit that is the TL.

Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:50:04 No.44273697

>>44273625
that's not unique to evil lord, anything that isn't grimdark suffering has been translated as abridged parodies by 7s and shitpress for a while now
i remember skimming the space mercenary TL for the illustrations and it was just as bad despite not being comedy focused

>>	Anonymous Wed, Aug 9, 2023 23:57:40 No.44273738 >>44273697 >space mercenary Melp, time to drop that from my backlogue, was more interested in isekai mistress anyway Speaking of which does the volume 6 of the LN end in the WN?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:00:44 No.44273758 >>44273738 *where does volume 6

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:03:34 No.44273780

>>44273738
isekai minecraft may be even worse, that one actually has a joking-ish tone at the start despite the serious plot because of the MC POV kinda coping with the situation through laughing it off
that one may actually get translated as just konosuba 2.0

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:05:50 No.44273798 >>44273738 >>44273758 Learn japanese ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:08:06 No.44273812 >knights and magic gets picked up by JNC I lament for all the mecha LN that will never get TL'd if they even exist.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:09:28 No.44273819 >>44273780 >konosuba 2.0 Having actually read it, nope. >>44273798 Either answer the question or dont

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:12:35 No.44273836 >>44273812 how the fuck did that take so long to get translated? actually i thought it already had a translation just what the fuck bro, i remember complaining about shitpress grabbing it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:13:22 No.44273839 >>44273625 Let me guess, the 7shit TL doesn't even bother to change tone when the perspective flips to Liam's fanatically loyal followers, right? Never regretted picking up Japanese. Vol.1 was a blast.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:18:01 No.44273857 >>44273819 >>44273780 >looks up the publisher thinking it was jnc >it's actually seven seas Fuck, guess they're both chalked. Suddenly the limpdick line sylphy uses in volume 1 wasn't just an odd liberal interpretation...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:20:58 No.44273869 Has there been any instance of a LN changing hands between 7S/YP/JNC?

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:23:15 No.44273878

>>44273839
Giving it a quick skim again, yeah it doesn't really try, it barely comes off as a slight tone shift but I suspect it's because I already read it in japanese and I already know what it's supposed to be.
Before I complain at length again I will just paste a bit and let that speak for itself.
Liam:
>The soldiers were all on edge, but they couldn’t talk back to a noble. This was just how things were in the Empire; the class divisions were absolute, and no one could disobey me. Frankly, it felt great. The lowly grunts worked like maniacs while I was sitting pretty at the top, watching them.
>This is what it means to be nobility. Course, I’d be pissed if I were in their shoes. You’re working hard and your boss is taking it easy? I’d wanna kill him.
>“It won’t be long now, my lord. More importantly, is this really the best course of action?”
>The commanding officer once again questioned my orders, but I cut the conversation short with a curt “Enough.”
>This is a fixed game. Sure, I’m up against a huge pirate gang, but it’s nothing but a bonus stage for me. My win’s already been decided. I smirked. I couldn’t wait to see my prize. “These guys have some sort of treasure, right?”
>The soldiers exchanged a glance at my sudden change in topic. “I-it seems so. From the way they run rampant, it would make sense that the Goaz Pirate Gang is in possession of some miraculous treasure.”
>I grinned. “I’m looking forward to taking it from them. I’m eager to make use of it.” They continued to gawk at me, baffled.
>These guys are totally scared of the other side’s numbers. Is it normal for my personal army to respond like this?

The POV flip immediately afterwards:
>In the midst of all the nervous energy on the bridge, Liam alone was smiling. Sitting in the chair prepared for the count and no one else, he elegantly sipped his drink. He looked entirely calm, so no one was quite sure how to react.
>“Pretty calm for his first battle,” the mouthy colonel remarked to his commander, the lieutenant general.
>The lieutenant general wasn’t sure how to feel about Liam’s attitude either. “It doesn’t look like he’s simply putting on a brave face.”
>His cohort was inclined to agree. “He has a reputation for being a capable administrator, but what about his military prowess? Personally, I’d prefer it if he didn’t try to interfere too much.”
>“Agreed.” None of the soldiers knew what to think. It was rare for a lord to come to the front lines himself. Normally, nobles stayed safe in the rear or left their domains behind and fled. Yet Liam had said he would lead them into battle—and he wasn’t even an adult yet.
>“Maybe it’s his brand of noble pride. I think it’s commendable,” the lieutenant general said, and the colonel nodded.
>If they were to be honest, the soldiers would have preferred that Liam run and live to see another day, but it also gave them courage to watch him trying to do his duty.
>“The troops are less jittery with our lord here. I hope he’ll just keep sitting there and boosting morale.”
>From the soldiers’ perspective, their ruler was fighting with them instead of abandoning ship. Some of them were deeply moved by the sight, thinking, This is what a noble should be.
>Liam being on the battlefield also meant that his military personnel wouldn’t be used as sacrificial pawns. Sacrificing soldiers so that the nobility could escape wasn’t an unusual tactic in the Empire. As a result, House Banfield’s private army had unexpectedly high morale. They were still able to hold on to their fighting spirit in the face of an enemy force six times their size.
>Adjusting his hat, the lieutenant general steeled himself. “Now we have to make sure to follow his example ourselves.”
>“You said it.”
It kinda gets the point across at least.
Though it sounds like random people glad their new boss isn't shit and not really zealots in the making from seeing the light after a life of despair.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:24:49 No.44273884 >>44273869 i remember something about nageki no bourei getting thrown at JNC after it already got it's first volume translated, but dunno what became of that

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:26:17 No.44273889 Once again, I have discovered that learning Japanese for anime books was one of the best decisions I've made in my life.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:26:24 No.44273892 >>44273836 I dunno but I remember dropping it forever ago back when the fan TL was in the giant forest place.

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:46:53 No.44274003

>>44273878
I went back to read the original text: 'mouthy colonel' is what they translated '皮肉屋の大佐', and I think the original author intention was to show that even this cynic was starting to warm up during this scene.
>'I hope he’ll just keep sitting there and boosting morale.'
>'出来れば、このまま座っていて欲しいものです。'
He sounds a lot more respectful in the original text to me.
I've no idea how 7S runs their translation staff, but I can imagine if they focus on getting shit out fast enough that they would miss minor nuances like this.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:49:40 No.44274016 >>44274003 sure but like, no individual raindrop wants the blame for the flood, but stack enough "missed minor nuances" and the entire tone changes

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 00:53:01 No.44274033 >>44274016 100%.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 01:00:10 No.44274071 >>44274016 >>44274033 This is why early digital releases were a bad thing in hindsight. The more they pick up, the worse it will get

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 01:10:48 No.44274140 >>44274071 it's not like shitseas and shitpress were doing good translations before that either, all it did was actually get their translators to work instead of pissing around on twitter all day

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 01:13:18 No.44274160 >>44274071 >>44274140 >That feeling when the spanish fantran unironically wipes the floor with these hacks. A sign of the times

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 01:15:29 No.44274175

>>44274016
>>44274071
>>44274140
>>44274160
This is why I keep repeating it's intentional sabotage, once you see it you can't unsee it, and it goes from funny schizo theory to extremely obviously blatant.
Or at least it does when you learn japanese and start noticing their "spicing up and fixing of the source material".

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 01:19:03 No.44274199

>>44274160
kind of an unfair comparison when in spanish countries and communities the animes are mainstream normally rather than mainstream by irony to ridicule as a guilty pleasure
it should be no surprise their autists still have BT-tier autism to translate

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 01:21:02 No.44274213 >>44274175 I'd do intentional garbage translations if I was a localizer too. Basically free money.

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 01:31:00 No.44274278

>>44274213
I won't be surprised if that's what they do. Just MTL shit then do a single edit pass. Unfortunately as long as it brings in the money for the Japanese publisher as well, I doubt anyone is going to be raising a stink.
I hope the day comes where MTL eventually runs all these grifters out of business. Whoever still remains will be those that provide properly written translations that a niche group still can appreciate.

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 01:40:00 No.44274351

>>44274213
I wouldn't blame you for it either, it is pretty much the perfect scheme now.
All the heavy lifting was already done by the japanese author, all your work is done with literal MTL or worse (you can often spot the deepTL or yomichan mistakes like "mansion" or "demon"), nobody will call you out because EOPs will eat up anything, and anyone calling you out sounds like a schizo thanks to decades of propaganda and circlejerking calling anything "anime" shit.
If someone says you missed any nuance (or outright got shit wrong/cut out parts), then everyone will just think it's something anime so it can't have nuance, what's more you aren't just translating it properly, you're "fixing" it, so how dare these weebs insult you?
Not only it's free money for no effort, you also get an internet defense force for free and get to be an eceleb if you post on twitter about being a localizer, and as a cherry on top you get to "fix" lowly media for plebs.
Should be no wonder why these faggots sound like they are on a perpetual power trip, they literally are.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 01:40:56 No.44274356 >>44274278 >Just MTL shit then do a single edit pass. Dont flatter them. i thought it was a meme from the kage jitsu airing threads, but the MTLs actually are better than whatever the fuck "shadowbroker" was supposed to be.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 02:45:33 No.44274970 >>44274356 that's not very dark knight of you sir, can i see your "it's a FF reference (which also was badly translated)" cope license?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 02:56:54 No.44275109 >>44272931 you don't remember all the garbage J-C-E and stalled novels? strike the blood would never have been finished if not for shitpress half of vanadis is MTL shana never got off the ground

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 02:58:30 No.44275129 >>44275109 >strike the blood would never have been finished if not for shitpress >half of vanadis is MTL pretty sure that happened due to BT getting murdered

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:00:22 No.44275157

>>44273625
honestly I doubt it's intentional sabotage, it's either the translator or the editor's genuine professional opinion that it should sound like this, and their professional opinion is just retarded because there is no professional body that regulates translators and editors like it does for doctors and lawyers and even live interpreters so anyone can call themselves an editor or a translator

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:13:42 No.44275321

>>44275157
I would trust on that plausible deniability if, and only if, the translators didn't act so smug and saying variants of the following:
>It's weebshit so who cares about quality.
>It's bad anyway so I fixed it/spiced it up.
>Translation can't be literal, so my fanfiction is good enough.
All while missing subtext so obvious it's basically text and making mistakes even N4s would avoid.
As well as constant disdain to what they translate of course.
Put it all together with constantly writing abridged parodies and passing them off as translations so nothing ever gets taken seriously.
Seriously, this is the MO:
>Claim to translate something.
>Wipe clean all meaning, subtext, character depth and themes.
>Cram it full of memes, out of character moments, plot holes and contradictions from those "fixes".
>After the fact, insult it by calling it devoid of depth, pulpy/trashy and immature and how people should read REAL (read: western) books and how it doesn't deserve the effort of translating it properly anyway.
>Even though this is literally the fault of disingenuous localizers in the first place.
There's bad, which is getting certain words or conjugations wrong.
Then there's this, which you have to intentionally try to actually get, this is not accidental, this is not out of retardation, it's the intended result.

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:17:02 No.44275356

>>44275157
The "regulation" is essentially the company that hires you checking your portfolio and making you do a test.
What I think the issue is here is that Yen and Seven Seas are born from the same stock as Tokyopop and Viz from that traditional publishing industry which is why they have traditional practices like giving an editor full control of the script in the editing phase with no translator input, and traditional opinions on how works need to be Americanized to suit the target audience, in extreme cases you have the butchering of Kino no Tabi rearranging chapters and making Kino more feminine, or edited images in Shana. In comparison J-Novel has no traditional publishing background and is descended from 2000s anime fansub groups via Crunchyroll, which means their whole mindset towards workflow and localization is rooted in that instead.

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:20:06 No.44275393

>>44275356
>and traditional opinions on how works need to be Americanized to suit the target audience
how is that supposed to make any sense when ironic weebs will think it's cringe regardless and actual otaku will hate you on principle?
no target audience reading actual /lit/ shit which is who this is getting localized for is actually going to read any of it

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:22:41 No.44275424 >>44275393 do you not remember Kurt Hassler claiming the original western cover of spice and wolf was totally necessary to make it marketable to Americunts?

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:25:38 No.44275468

>>44275321
I don't think they're trying to make everything abridged parodies on purpose, I just think that they recognise the original is a comedy and are attempting to convey the humourous atmosphere, but that they're so uncultured that abridged parodies are they only style of comedy they know how to write.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:25:46 No.44275473 >>44275424 yes but my point is that wouldn't even work

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:31:15 No.44275530

>>44275468
>I just think that they recognise the original is a comedy
They are wrong from step one then.
Most "comedy" you will find in LNs isn't haha funny with laugh track included 24/7 for the entire thing, but rather normal stuff that happens to throw in a dry comedy jab from the absurdity of the situation more often than usual, or just someone in universe doing a tsukkomi outright.
Meanwhile they think of it as "insert laugh track here" which results on the abridged parody phenomenon.
Honestly, konosuba was a mistake.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:33:54 No.44275560 File: 306 KB, 1358x3114, 1691636574047012.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44274160 >>44273516 funni friendly reminder

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:43:21 No.44275696

>>44273516
I disagree with his reasoning, but I at least recognize that the they/them thing is rooted in a linguistic aspect of the text (biologically male, uses あたし) instead of being purely a political point. It's something that would otherwise have been lost in translation. However attempting to translate it fundamentally breaks because choosing your pronouns in Japanese is a matter of how you present yourself to others, choosing your pronouns in English is a matter of how you insist others treat you. It's just something that I think the translator should have let be lost, and let Carlos's feminine mannerisms speak for themselves.

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:54:07 No.44275798

>>44275696
>It's just something that I think the translator should have let be lost, and let Carlos's feminine mannerisms speak for themselves.
And that's why regardless of his logic, it still has the same effect to someone who is none the wiser.
>It's just something that I think the translator should have let be lost, and let Carlos's feminine mannerisms speak for themselves.
THIS. and what get's me is that this needed my hand to be held and not all the other usual context that's trimmed?

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 03:55:02 No.44275820
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>>44275321
This is the exact MO and isn't exclusive to LNs by any means. You see this dumb shit all the time in Japanese vidya too and have been for decades now. Series like fire emblem have been seeing rewrites and omissions for nearly 2 decades now and when autists try to get more faithful translations out there they're put down by alleged fans and the localization defense force. Luckily, it's come to the attention of Japanese publishers and some like Sega have been more hawkish about it. Here's to hoping that attitude finds its way to LN authors too.

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:00:07 No.44275875

>>44275820
In retrospect it's just a result of localization companies following the Apple playbook of building a diehard fanbase that will defend their every move regardless. Nowadays I want to believe people are wiser and companies less competent, so cracks are more obvious. Here's hoping

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:00:41 No.44275879

>>44275820
pretty much this, the "abridged parody-fication" of translations actually got copedified by JRPGs in the modern era, specifically with neptunia and trials of, and started all the way back in the early fansub days when 4kids was the shitpress of it's era
not saying it's not malicious sabotage, but that claiming it's only on LNs is wrong, this shit is way worse than just LNs, it's on everything from japan

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:04:59 No.44275926

>>44275820
>>44275879
Obviously I'm not saying this is exclusive to LNs, I'm just focusing on that for obvious reasons.
I wanted to say it's particularly bad with LNs, but now that I give it a second thought not really, it's pretty shit everywhere isn't it?

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:09:58 No.44275976
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>>44275820
>Series like fire emblem have been seeing rewrites and omissions for nearly 2 decades now and when autists try to get more faithful translations out there they're put down by alleged fans and the localization defense force.
heh

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:10:47 No.44275984
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>>44275926
I'll try and give you some context for just how bad it is, anon. Going back to my mention of fire emblem, the most recent entry-engage-had quite a few rewrites it it so autists got together and did a more accurate translation themselves. Serenes forest and feuniverse are the biggest sites out there for fire emblem and fire emblem patches, romhacks, etc. These autists had to post the fan translation on fucking gamebanana of all places just to be able to get it out there. It's genuinely sickening how far people will go to defend localizers butchering the intent of the original writers. Drives me up a fucking wall.

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:13:57 No.44276025

>>44275984
Anon, just remember that nowadays companies actually pay people to defend them online. Those "people" that actually do it for free, you can just laugh at them.
That said, anyone know any way of cutting out localizers when buying stuff on Steam? Like swapping regions and the like?

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:22:12 No.44276101

>>44276025
Sometimes you don't need to. Companies like sega often included the Japanese language option. I remember when I got Valkyria Chronicles 4 I could go into the options, switch the voices to Japanese, and turn off subtitles.
That said, switching your steam account's region is something you can only do once every 3 months so if you really wanted to do this sort of thing you'd need to take a page out of the sonypony playbook and have a backup account set to Malaysian for all your japanese gaming needs. They tend to get basically everything Japan gets. I had to import my copy of Gundam Breaker 3 from there too.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:30:02 No.44276167 >>44276101 >malaysia Don't they censor stuff? Like the infamous boxer wearing titans from AoT

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:34:54 No.44276209

>>44276167
They'll piss and shit themselves over nudity, but their stuff tends to come in with Japanese in the options which is why I brought it up. It's how I managed to play gundam battle operation 2 when it came out and wasn't in the west yet using a Malay PSN.

Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:49:09 No.44276286

>>44276167
Films, TV and publications yes, but Steam isn't regulated and Malaysia don't actually have a national videogame classification board. Videogame shops are a free for all selling a wild mixture of US, EU, AU, HK/TW, JP region games.
t. Malaysian expatriate

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 04:54:43 No.44276315 >>44276209 >>44276286 Nice. How's the regional pricing?

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 05:02:45 No.44276358 >>44276167 Should also note that that was the Malay language version of AOT, and you can walk into KL Kinokuniya and buy the unaltered English version of AOT just fine.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 05:05:43 No.44276374 >>44276315 Varies from maybe 10% cheaper for some publishers to as much as 40-50% cheaper for others, big AAA publishers tend to have the least generous regional pricing.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 05:38:53 No.44276555 File: 77 KB, 1126x498, 1689821378288.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>44275879 >and started all the way back in the early fansub days when 4kids was the shitpress of it's era

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 05:55:00 No.44276631 >>44276555 Kanji doko...

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 08:29:52 No.44277372 >>44248196 I can't read Slightly Older Girlfriend because I identify more with the cake than the male MC and being reminded is torture.

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 09:16:14 No.44277658 >>44276631 Low memory and low resolution means few to no kanji in old japanese games. Be glad you have hiragana at least, even older computer text was katakana only

>>	Anonymous Thu, Aug 10, 2023 09:22:18 No.44277697 >>44277692 >>44277692 >>44277692

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