/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

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A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://nyaa.si/view/1611543
Mahoutsukai no Yoru PC:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177wSYqWfOpH_4AsGzY27sZOs8y84GWa9
PC English Patch (Partial Translation):
https://mega.nz/folder/dBkXjbaa#e3rJvGTb9PT7TFVwjk-2ww
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru complementary short story):
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8887-An-Adventure-of-First-Love-%28Mahoutsukai-no-Yoru-Short-Story%29-Translation

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (Japanese):
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Light Novels (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3874450
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Patch:
https://tsukihimates.com

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S
Melty Blood - Type Lumina:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1372280/MELTY_BLOOD_TYPE_LUMINA/
Melty Blood - Type Lumina Community Translation Patch:
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9302-Melty-Blood-Type-Lumina-Community-Translation-Patch

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3860991
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9101-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-Ultimate-Edition-2022
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7705-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Voice-Patch
Fate/Spinoffs:
https://pastebin.com/Vgy14rSK

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/7899136/1/Notes-The-Legend-of-the-Gun-God
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y68oxcrmg8i6k/Sutamamo
Tsuki no Sango:
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs
Clock Tower 2015:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UnWI7x2XpL8PFE9OuGDjY8qJ0nW7WsVm/view?usp=sharing

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Tsukihime Tokuhon:
https://exhentai.org/g/82076/173f6680ef

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>>44206083
I can fix her

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vegane and bob sensei

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sex with dr boobs

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>>44205931
World-level threat in TsukiR most likely.

>>44206012
It actually does. For DAA increasing their strength the longer they live is a non-negotiable requirement for their continued existence.

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Mini Arc is so cute

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Shirou and his harem

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>>44206191
So is mini Nanaya. They're both so fluffy.

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>>44206689
t. pedo hag

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I'm no hag but he's cute.

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>>44206698
suspiciously haggy post you know

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Holy shit, Aoko got official TM art for Comiket. You love to see it. https://twitter.com/tmitterofficial/status/1686664654117056519?s=46&t=IJUbOoL4YkAEKZ0USCmeMA

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>>44206744
Same as the last few comikets then.

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>>44206155
Fuck the king

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>>44206769
Nah she hasn’t gotten anything in ages besides last year. She’s finally being treated like a heroine again.

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>>44206744
Ryougi bros...

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>>44206813
I’m so happy…

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>>44206834
Why is Arc's bust as small as Saber's here?

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>>44206834
Aokobros…we made it…

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>>44206847
Ryougi died for this though...

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>>44206820
>>44206851
It's 2023 grandpa, no one cares about the lesser Shiki anymore.

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>>44206851
Her story is over so she’s been sadly cast aside. Sadly Mash took her spot.

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The part of red garden im the most hype for is the music. I cant wait to hear the themes for the other heroines, and battle themes (i hope for another Shiki theme remix), although I hope they dont lean too much towards orchestra for the Tohno Mansion crew.
Maybe Sacchin will get a rock theme or something.

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>>44206845
Shiki ate her boobs.

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>>44206893
They teenagefied Arc too much. Now she looks younger than Aoko and Mashu...

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>>44206845
Yeah, strange. Must be this.>>44206893

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>Nasu: After Tsukire was released, I wanted to implement Arc as fast as possible. However, forcing her into the main story is not something I could do yet. As such, I decided to put her in for the 7th Anniversary celebration.
>Nasu says that he doesn't feel that it would be a good idea to have a tsuki collab while far side is still currently hanging. He would want to include Shiki, Ciel and Akiha, and make a lot of characters appear. After thinking a lot, he decided to have arc be released in the 7th ani. He was very nervous about it and was glad the reception was good.

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>Takeuchi says nasu went all out writing the next summer servant and asks people to look forward to it.
red garden bros...

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>What character from other TM works do you want implemented?
>ciel, aoko, shiki top3

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>>44206924
what does he even do with the army of hack writers he has at his disposal?

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>>44206952
They write hacky stories so he has to keep writing for the game to keep it afloat.

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>>44206951
Not a big enough poll.

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>>44206917
Where are you quoting that from?

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>>44206951
Uh oh. Ciel next?

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>>44206951
Who's the character in the bottom right?

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>>44206083
Good morning Dr. boobs.

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>>44206997
larry cheetos

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>>44206997
Takechi Zuizan.

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>>44207020
Famitsu is really a fujo magazine huh. But even then why him over other gudaguda guys, Goetia, Galahad etc?

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>>44206951
>Ciel and Arc will destroy chaldea while fighting for Shiki. Meanwile Aoko will steal him away

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>>44206924
Funny how some people legitimately thought Nasu was writing Red Garden when in reality he is just writing more gacha garbage

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>>44207132
>implying he can't do both
He promised Shibusawa Red Garden so there's no going back now.

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>>44207132
He said they were working on it.

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>>44206951
>Shiki
Good taste...

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>>44207132
He wrote that gacha story in-between toilet breaks. The production of Red Garden isn't something that depends on him alone, so the production of the game can still continue even if he isn't writing it 24/7/365.

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>>44207242
nanaya will 100% get whored in F/GO

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>>44207242
Even Fou thinks he's cool

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>>44207323
Doesn't even know about Shiki Nanaya yet. Rabbit gonna have a heart attack.

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>>44206917
>shiki and akiha will probably never come to chaldea
This faggot never stop changing his mind.

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>>44207382
Anyone thinking that he wouldn't stuff every single character from Tsukihime into the gacha were huffing some weapon's grade copium.

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>>44207316
Not like anything would come of it and just like the rest he'd probably be a temporary dream.

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>>44207311
Except the game's engine is already built so the writing is the greatest production holdup. A VN is not a complicated thing to make and everything is dependent upon the script.

I don't know why "Far Side is taking forever to come out because Nasu is spending all his time writing random irrelevant bullshit for the gacha for a fanbase who don't give a shit" is so controversial.

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>>44207426
The greatest holdup is that there is only like 1 or 2 guys with the techniques required for the scripting. Add the fact that it's 4 routes instead of 2, the probably, all the direction necessary and the months of VA(Took 6 months for just Near Side). It's a major endeavor.

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>>44207426
and now he want to write F/GO part 3 as well. there is truly no future for TM, and i'm starting to get worried for RG as well.

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>>44207426
Do you work at Type Moon? No? Then kill yourself doomposter, because you don't have any more information than anyone else here.

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>>44207481
>It's a major endeavor.
Exactly, and Nasu is spending his time writing random shit for a fanbase who don't care about the quality of the slop they receive.

>>44207496
Everything in a VN is descended from the script, retard-kun. Nothing else happens without beyond engine stuff which is already done.

Tell me, when was the Remake originally supposed to come out and what was Nasu's reason for the 5 year delay?

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>>44207574
No, seriously kill yourself, doomposter. We don't want you here.

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>>44207629
There is no hope.

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>>44207574
Nasu can't help with anything but writing and directing.

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>>44207629
I was here before you arrived, gachatard, and I will be here after you migrate back to your generals when the next gacha shiney comes out.

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>>44207639
That's not what Edmond would say. Wait and hope.

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>>44207686
I've been a TMfag and a /jp/ poster since 2008 faggot. I just stopped posting here in 2013 and only came back this year to discuss TsukiR.
Doomposting still contributes nothing other than spreading unwarranted negativity. Nobody wants to read that shit.

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>>44207651
Touko literally has a different hair color every time I look at her.

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Nasu talks about how when asked by Takeuchi what the bleached earth is he told him it's the same thing giant arc does. That must have been some time in 2017. I wonder when Ciel true was written.

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>>44207799
Nasu didn't say that. He said the concept of textures was elaborated in TsukiR, and FGO further expanded on it.
It's not the same thing Arc does though.

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>>44207916
I'm talking about the new interview.

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>>44207778
larp

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>>44207916
It looks the same though

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>>44207426
Stop sounding like you know how to make a VN especially one that’s high in production values like RG. It’s more about scripting, CGs, storyboarding, art, directing, and the composition of how a scene flows and the directing needed to keep the flow and story going. Do you think it’s easy to make a VN that has the high production values that TsukiR has? Only a select few people are even able to script and direct a VN the same way TsukiR was so shut the fuck up since you have no clue what you’re talking about. The script and writing 4 routes and seeing what needs to be changed or not is also a huge time commitment. Not to mention writing a new route that e corporates everything the game has done so far as the last route of the game.

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https://twitter.com/live_unyanya/status/1686367843938668544
Anyone going to buy/import this? Looks interesting. We need more tsuki doujinshi.

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>>44208137
>cielshit
>all-ages
ohnononononopffffffffffftthahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

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>>44207923
What new interview?

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>>44206917
the gook will probably kill himself seeing that nasu want to add shiki and akiha in the gacha now

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>>44207989
Arcueid did a confiscation of 'meaning', turning the city into something metaphysical and confiscating it. The Bleaching swapped Earth's surface with CHALDEAS' IIRC. They are not quite the same thing.

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>>44208187
Today's Famitsu.

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>>44208103
And all of that is downstream from the writing faggot, especially considering Nasu's directorial hyper autism. I never implied making a VN is easy, I'm saying that the gacha is making it take longer and to imply otherwise is just pure cope.

And the Remake isn't some amazing VN achievement of scripting and flow lmao. It's not even as complicated as HA, much less KT. It literally just two routes and a bunch of bad endings.

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You know, it's great that posts like these prove that you're just a bunch of angry jaded retards that ran away from the evil gacha threads only to bring it up at every occasion and blame everything on it.

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>>44208282
Jesus you have no clue what you’re talking about. The first Vlov fight scene on its own is more work than F/HA or KT with the amount of scripting, art, directing, musical composition, and the general flow of a fight scene not to mention all the unique art and CGs. You have no fucking clue what you’re talking about as you don’t get what goes into scripting a VN of that production.

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>>44208282
Sounds like you just don't know what scripting means.

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>>44208358
You're the one misrepresenting my argument that the gacha is delaying Far Side, since everything is dependent on Nasu's writing, into some sort of insult towards the golden goose that is the Remake. Plus the fights were better in Mahoyo and none of the fights were able to surpass Bazette vs. Lancer in HA in terms of Kino.

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>>44208226
Post scans/quotes

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Foursome between Shiki, Miyako, Mio and Akiha

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>true route isn't a cope
i kneel /tmg/

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>>44208541
This is the only TRUE end in Tsukihime and if red garden doesn't have it then it's total fucking SHIT and wasted everyone's fucking life

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>>44208541
What about Seo?

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>>44208639
Imoutofag will go nuclear.

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>>44208541
swap Mio with Arach. all foursomes need some booba.

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>>44208639
Is there anything else in that interview worth reading? I just see mostly FGO crap otherwise.

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>>44208765
nothing particularly valuable unless you care about the gacha.

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>>44208791
Based loli.

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So, nasu is a woman right?

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who is this ahveredge sirvahnt and why is his powerlevel so inconsistent

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>>44208863
Maybe his true name is schrodinger.

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>ciel more expected than aoko now
not bad for a bunch of goofballs bros
>>44208137
of course, I've been eyeing that one for a while but I wasn't able to get it the first pass like all the other ones
I managed to get most of them but there's still a few left

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aoko bra

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>>44208208
Maybe Chaldeas is an earth without meaning

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>>44209032
One of Arcueid's abilities in TsukiRe is to confiscate Textures. Is this in any way related to the bleaching of Earth?

Nasu: Speaking in terms of the development order, Arcuied's came first. When I began designing the bleached Earth, TsukiRe's development was close to completion, so when Takeuchi asked what exactly the bleached Earth was like, I answered him "Same thing as Luminary Arc". From there, Takeuchi produced a white image full of trails, and I said "Let's go with this visual". That's all, they have no correlation in-story.

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>>44209077
Oh wow so when you remove the texture of the world, and don't replace it with something else, it looks the same?
Novel idea, they're literally the same thing achieved through different means.
This is what "earth" would look like if you lifted a deployed UBW without letting the world take over the area again.

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>>44209032
Isn't CHALDEAS' Earth the Earth from 100 years in the future? The Earth in CHALDEAS was destroyed by the Fantasy Trees over 6 months period as per Bluebook's accounts. Then someone swapped CHALDEAS' Earth with our Earth shortly after the Fantasy Trees dropped on our Earth.
It's a bit convoluted.

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I’m so glad I don’t follow this stupid lore lmao. Have no clue what you’re talking about.

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>>44209373
I love how this sort of post always follows anything fgo related.

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>>44209474
kek, so true.

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>>44209474
I mean do you read what you’re actually writing? It just sounds so dumb. I have to laugh at this shit whenever I read it.

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>>44209340
3 months. They don't explain why but you can now assume it has nothing to do with a vampire. It seems more like they swapped the current texture with no texture I guess?

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>>44209098
>This is what "earth" would look like if you lifted a deployed UBW without letting the world take over the area again.
Reality Marbles don't actually replace the earth texture, they are the layer on top. Everyone outside the range who aren't transported inside won't see shit in the place of deployment. In Fate Zero this was how Iskander buys time for Saber by trapping lovecraft monster inside RM
>Thanks to Rider's clever scheme, the gigantic sea monster had disappeared without a trace from the water's surface. However, although its form was nowhere to be seen, the Servants and magi gathered there could clearly perceive the presence of the monster raging within the plane-divergent bounded field.

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>>44209373
>you don't know what people are talking about when you don't know what they are talking about
very smart observation Anonymous

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>>44209474
It's funny because you can tell it's always the same guy.

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I think part of the reason why a lot of old fans hate the gacha lore is because the writing quality is tremendously lower with less ambiguity. In their minds, the holy trinity (Tsukihime, F/SN, Mahoyo) are all well-written works, and they can't accept that a somewhat lower quality product coexists with them lore-wise. Being unable to separate art is usually a sign of autism.

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>>44209791
It's been a while, my bad then. Everything else though should check out though.

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>>44210018
The main story isn't really THAT bad imo. Some people have put a lot of thought into the lore and characters, like for example:
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9380-Grand-Unified-Theory-CHALDEA

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>>44210168
>>44210018
The problem with FGO is that while the highs hit just as well as they did in other works, the lows are so fucking bad, and unfortunately exist mostly at the start of the story, meaning you have to get through some proper dog shit before you start getting into actual stories worth reading.

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>>44210018
What kind of cope is this? We hate it because its trash and the gacha has completely subsumed TM and takes all of Nasu's time away from stuff that's actually good. It could have literally nothing to do with anything Nasu has made before and I would still hate it.

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>>44209802
>you see it sounds retarded because you dont actually understand the deep lore of this glorified slot machine not because its actually retarded

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>>44210260
>>>/vg/vn

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>>44206289
It's been a while since I read FSN, why was Rider there at the end of HF

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>>44210204
But Avalon le Fae is one of the best things Nasu ever wrote

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>>44210308
She’s Rin’s lover.

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>>44210343
Don't try, there's people who will seethe about anything FGO regardless of quality

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>>44210343
It’s the best thing he’s written in FGO. It’s still subpar compared to his actual VN’s. It’s still filled with the same lazy writing and the limits the game has for it to ever be as good as his VNs. A for effort in though. It’s just too late to make FGO good since the inherit premise is a turd that can’t shine no matter how hard you try.

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>>44210343
>>44210383
Thank god I wasn't born a gachacuck

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>jap want shiki in fgo because of tepeu
topkek

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>>44210260
People generally fail to understand things they are actively choosing to avoid understanding. Am I supposed to cheer for your ignorance? There's no medals for being stupid

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>>44210435
Tepeu will be one of his ascension

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>>44210558
>you cant possibly just think something is bad, you just dont get it
tbf ive never seen someone act this way for a glorified slot machine

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>>44210602
Some people are like this about literal slot machines, let alone glorified ones. You just need to widen your horizons.

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>>44210343
I honestly think it's maybe #11-14 or so depending if you count adaptions.

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>>44210650
Show us the full list.

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クンロクを入れる seems to be some kind of colloquialism for "lecturing, intimidation"..? In the bottom panel Noel is asking for the reading of クンロク

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>>44210794

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>>44210794
I've never heard this phrase or word before. Apparently it has kind of complex origins. Anyways, some dude on yahoo.jp says "脅しの入ったキツイ説教をする", so I'll go with that.
https://detail.chiebukuro.yahoo.co.jp/qa/question_detail/q13148696303

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>>44210820

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>>44208985
Good to know. Don't forget to scan and upload to the panda!

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Can Arc move in planck-time?

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>>44210998
Nasu doesn't even know what that is

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That Ayu is amazing.

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>>44208639
That’s what people who have actually read the remake and followed the interviews have been saying since then. Hopefully he hangs himself. The only thing left is to have Arc appear in Far Side and have Roa be connected to Shiki’s life because that’s what he’s been continuously seething about

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>>44211197
>Roa be connected to Shiki’s life
There is literally no evidence of this. Arc also won't appear in Far Side since she never gets Nanaya'd.

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Neck yourself, retard. Original Satsuki route idea already has Arc participating in it and Nasu already talked about a joint route back then. Can’t wait for you to get BTFO soon when Red Garden comes out

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>>44211264
b-but he is a roa reincarnation in the remake now!!!! are you aware about the hospital incident? it's all because of roa, definitely not something related with the tohno/arach who are totally not related with vampire!!!

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>>44211308
Explain why Ciel is called 15 and there are scratch marks for 16/17 and SHIKi is coffin 17? Explain the reincarnation order so there isn't anyone between Ciel and SHIKI.

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>>44211288
I don't know why you think Nasu is going to massively change what happens in Far Side. He kept the same basic beats from fucking Ciel's route yet you expect him to start changing a bunch of stuff for the best part of Tsukihime?

>>44211344
SHIKI autism or Tohno blood connection with Akiha or some other thing involved Dr. Booba or Imhotep. Roa is also not going to appear in Far Side as he is completely supplanted by SHIKI. Have you even played Tsukihime nigger?

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>>44211376
I'm sorry to inform you but Far Side now contains a heavily vampire centric story with minimal Tohno family stuff(probably) in Satsuki. Which will probably be the longest route. They'll drop setup about Shiki being a reincarnation in 3 routes and then focus on it in Satsuki.

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>>44211344
15 is mentioned, but nothing about the 15 straight up stated to be ciel. she is 16 and SHIKI 17.

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>>44211427
She's called 15 in a derogatory manner by Mario.

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>>44211431
source/raw texts?

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>>44211427
They literally call her Quinze, even Arc.

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i dont understand why people even want arc in the far side routes (besides sacchin's), it doesn't really make sense to me

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>>44211344
When do we see 16 scratch marks?

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Learning that people actually want to have sex with Neco-Arc has been a wake up call.

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What did Nasu mean by this?

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>>44211581
Who the hell did Taiga fuck have a kid with?

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>>44211612
Just some random japanese, it's irrelevant

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>>44211530
CG gallery. Don't actually appear.

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>>44211578
But it's all secondaries

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>>44211457
>>44211344
Because Ciel is 15th Roa
17th Roa is Shiki-Roa from Ciel route

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>>44210890
>>44210820
>>44210794

I believe in yuri supremacy

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>>44211860
We see the 17th coffin though.

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>>44208137
Holy shit someone TL this doujin lol

https://twitter.com/live_unyanya/status/1686367843938668544

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Slav Archangel.

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MOST WANTED FATE/GRAND ORDER SERVANTS According to FAMITSU 2023
1) Ciel
2) Aoko
3) Shiki Tohno
4) Touko
5) Shinji
6) Proto Gilgamesh
7) Manaka
8) Richard
9) Archimedes
10) Hakuno

can't believe we're at a point where Ciel is ranked higher than Aoko for the wanted servants

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>>44212106
Aokobros

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>>44212106
Aoko didn't even make the top 10 last year.

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Patiently waiting for /alter/ to leave.

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I have no idea what you guys are even talking about.

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>>44212106
>Proto Gilgamesh
I always forget Prototype was supposed to be a thing.
Somehow more mismanaged than the Remake

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>>44212106
No Alice?

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>>44212356
Removed characters

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>>44212399
Restored

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Evo leaks:
New characters are Len and White Len.

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So what even happens that one day after school where Shiki just wanders around with no goal instead of doing anything you actually want, and keeps complaining about his neck and then Mio just randomly hobo's her way into the scene and picks the wrong juice?
Why or what happened? And can we get more Noel sexual harassment but with actual sex involved?

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In the end, did he do anything wrong? He just wanted to leave a sinking ship.

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>>44212495
Evo leak:
New characters are Geotia and EMIYA

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>>44212796
Noel drugged, fucked and let him go. Catch and release.

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>>44212921
How do I get Noel to play that move on me as well?

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>>44212796
The idea is that this is supposed to be an event for Satsuki route (or far side in general) and it's cut from this game.

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>>44212982
Yeah that much seems obvious, specially when you can get the ticket from yudumika just before that. But was it actually just Noel being a cunt and drugging Shiki stealthily while he was engrossed in her sexual harassment?

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>>44212995
No one knows.

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Femitsu interview

Takeuchi: We knew the fans were waiting for it, so we were discussing if this was the year to do the Tsukihime collab. However, Nasu proposed it'd be more fun to release her in a different form, and that's how we got to Archetype:Earth. It caused a huge buzz in the room, with everyone amazed at the absurdities that come out of his mouth.

Nasu: I couldn't accept a TsukiRe collab without the Far Side in it, not to mention making a collab would require also introducing Shiki, Ciel, and Akiha, plus some other characters. After much deliberation, we decided on releasing only Arcueid as the 7th Anniversary celebration. The moments before the announcement got me half-dizzy. It was a huge relief to see the audience receive it well.

Hmm

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>>44213010
Fair, I was afraid I missed something like I did with other details before.

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>>44213011
I'm only hoping for good designs that'll prompt some porn to be drawn for Akiha.

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The only porn she's getting is blendy videos and NTR commissions.

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>>44213011
I guess anon who said they can't do it without Shiki were right.

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>>44212106
Remake Ciel route saved Tsuki re

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>>44213011
So much for the copium that they're only adding in Archetype Earth and not anyone else because they "don't fit".

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Nasu confirms U Olga could have taken down ORT and absorbed it if she wasn't a bumbling fool "good girl" type in LB7.

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>>44213043
tsurui has akiha as a tsukihime waifu so we are bound to have solid doujin at least. he should make another one for arc as well since oddly enough she is getting less doujin than ciel now outside of cuck shit.

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I hate new powered ciel
the tattoos were so cool
like of course someone in the burial agency would be covered in warding tattoos

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>>44213312
Only true Ciel enjoyers like her tattoos.

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>>44213312
But most of nips love remake Ciel's design.
She became more popular girl than before

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>>44213417
japs are known for their awful taste so that isnt all too surprising. especially since most of them are gacha brains. just look at what are considered "good designs" in fgo lmao.

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Oh look the Arc schizo is back.

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>>44213343
What if tattoos will be back in Tsukihime 2 to compensate for the lack of immortality?

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>>44213482
After Roa disappeared, did the "Counter Force" leave any effects on Ciel's body?

Nasu: The moment Roa disappeared, Ciel lost her immortality. Ah, but the self preservation magic she had learned is still there, and thanks to that she was fine. As usual, she's built for playing rough.

It's old lore

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>>44213550
>For some reason I have an image of her fighting with swords and guns like a warrior, but she's actually pretty strong as a mage.

Takeuchi a man of his word

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looking through warosu for discussion really hits you in the feels when you see the date jump from 2023 to fucking 2009
we've been having these same arguments for decades

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Nasu: Of course having Heroine A in the game its not right not to have Heroine B (Ciel) in the game as well. That's what I've always been thinking about but I can't just have her appear so easily. I'll do my best to tease her in the most interesting way. I trust you future Nasu!

What is he cooking?

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>>44206951
>What character from other TM works do you want implemented?
None, I just want FGO to die.

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>>44212106
>Ciel
I just hope she has an interaction with Archer about his shroud.

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>>44213889
>think nasu remember this
lmao

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>gook spreading mistranslation
Yikes

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Where to find translations of fate prototype 3-5 parts with original illustrations

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>>44215468
post more

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>>44210602
You can think something is bad, just don't expect anyone to give a shit about your opinion on things that you admit you know nothing about.

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>>44211376
It's not only extremely stupid from a terrible narrative standpoint but also makes zero sense because it requires every single character involved with Roa to have lied up to this point. Shiki is neither a Tohno at that point, doesn't have latent magical potential because Roa needs to make shitty magic circuits when he actually does get in his body, and the Nanaya are a reclusive assassin clan with no real influence. Shiki Nanaya is a horrible choice for a vessel by all the metrics we've been given.

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>>44216218
>doesn't have latent magical potential because Roa needs to make shitty magic circuits
i don't care about that theory but that has nothing to do with magical potential.

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>>44208639
It'd be nice if True Arc is about Roa succeeding in his pantheon and Shiki is forced to take her back from CM, as KT foreshadowed.

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>>44211344
Don't you only see the coffin after SHIKI-Roa is already dead? In that case, the 17 marking indicates Shiki-Roa not SHIKI-Roa.

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>>44216622
nasu hinted that she will be relevant in F/GO story eventually so look forward to it
>>44216696
anon you can't just destroy arcfags cope like this

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>>44216778
What does that have to do with arcfags? It's just some weird schizo theory that makes no sense.

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>>44216801
it's the schizo who shits up tmg threads. After getting banned in forums and not getting the attention they want from their containment board, he comes here from time to time to shitpost about a single character. The key is they always somehow bring up anything FGO related in the discussion

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>>44216696
SHIKI is literally dead in the coffin.

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>>44216801
it's a theory fueled by arcfags in hope that arc will be relevant in the far side with the whole theory leading to some retarded last route with some revelation like shiki and arcueid being connected since the beginning. essentially just cope from arcfags, little did they know she is pretty much a F/GO heroine now.

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>>44216859
>it's a theory fueled by arcfags
No it's just some delusional guy.

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>>44216778
Take your meds anon

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Why would you even need to make up some weird theory when we already know Arc and Shiki are connected from the beginning from the new scene in the prologue?

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>>44216859
>shiki and arcueid being connected since the beginning
thanks for outing yourself as someone who didn't read the remake, shitposter

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>>>44216778
>nasu hinted that she will be relevant in F/GO story eventually so look forward to it
Sounds like only a crossover event from the interview.

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>>44216862
a delusional arcfag, yes. i guess we can't blame the dude since his favorite heroine is irrelevant for a majority of the story.
>>44216869
because it's something that can get quickly solved through a 5min epilogue, basically extra fluff. the schizo theory whole premise is that it's gonna lead to something bigger.

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>>44216622
I think TA will sort of act as setup for Tsuki 2 Aylesbury where this would be a main theme.

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>>44216898
Would be dope. It's about time we see Merem and Gransurg in action. And about the fucking time they show us Altrouge, assuming she's the one who tipped the scales in Arc's favor

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>>44216846
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is a case of foreshadowing but for new players that have never played the OG. Like all the 17 is supposed to mean is that Roa already body swapped somewhere else and was planning to come back to the coffin. If you knew nothing about the OG, this was your chance to be Sherlock Homes and predict it if you were paying attention. It's nothing more than that. For those that already played the original, we already know this of course so there's a tendency to make up something more than what's already there.

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>>44216912
>For those that already played the original
>still think the far side won't be massively rewritten
Are OG fags purposely being retarded?

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>>44216912
>Like all the 17 is supposed to mean is that Roa already body swapped somewhere else and was planning to come back to the coffin.
What?

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>>44216951
>Arc route is almost exactly the same
>Ciel route still more or less goes over the same general plot beats structure and conclusions with additions to improve what the original was trying to do instead of a massive narrative overhaul that discards everything to start from scratch
Seems reasonable to assume

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>>44216951
What's with the completely nonsensical somethingfag accusations/associations lately? Can you just engage in the conversation without trying to make this some weird x group vs y group war?

>>44216980
Roa has autisically counts his reincarnations. When SHIKI bites the dust, he gave the coffin a +1 because he moved to Shiki and was obviously would try to go back to his lair.

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>>44216997
His coffin has XVII on it. Nothing suggests he changed the number before or after he was killed.

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what characters you want in melty

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>>44217017
>Nothing suggests he changed the number before or after he was killed.
Actually the fact that there's a XVI in the CG gallery does.

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>>44216988
The fact that Far Side has vampires and a DAA is involved with Makihisa possibly taking control of the city already shows that it's massively rewritten when none of that was in the OG. As well as Mio being possibly Shiki Nanaya's actual sister.

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>>44217028
There was already a vampire in far side. Adding characters doesn't mean you have to uphaul the narrative, we've already seen Nasu add characters and not uphaul the narrative, twice.

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>>44216988
Look, I don't care about this theory, but most of the new stuff in the first part are clearly established for RG. The fact that there are new characters will completely change the dynamic of the mansion, and by extension the far side. For example, the hospital seems to be an important place in Shiki's childhood, the addition of Mio is probably also linked to Shiki's past, the Tohno's are supposed to be linked to the vampire and whatever is happening in Souya underground, and so on. It's clearly being massively rewritten, and implying otherwise is a huge cope at this point.

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>>44217028
>As well as Mio being possibly Shiki Nanaya's actual sister.
Stop smoking crack

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>>44217041
All of that could be true or wrong and it doesn't matter because that doesn't mean shit is getting changed, in the same way that adding Vlov Mario and Noel didn't irreparably force the main story of Near Side to be altered into something completely disconnected from the original thematically either

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>>44216997
>When SHIKI bites the dust, he gave the coffin a +1 because he moved to Shiki
When? What??

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>>44217022
The gallery only contains aa coffin cg with XIV and XVII. That's different from scratches bro...

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>>44217037
But it isn't significant enough to actually affect the Tohno Family's secrets unlike what Arach has in store. Her being related to Makihisa and Makihisa having connections with vampires already shows the character's history is rewritten, when literally none of that exists in the OG.

>>44217043
>there's a warning in the Tohno house that says "Beware of my brother"
>game mentions that Akiha and co. once had a big cat they play with
>the panther always follows Shiki around
>Mio has Nanaya Kiri in his natural enemy
This theory isn't exactly baseless but either way it highly hints that Mio is related to Shiki one way or another

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>>44217043
Have you seen her concept art? Looks so much like Shiki.

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>>44217020
Lens, Sion and V Sion, TATARI, Nero, Princess Arc. Plus SHIKI and Kiri

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>>44217084
as her natural enemy*

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>>44217075
So what are the scratches supposed to be then if not the incarnation count? It lines up exactly with the numbers.

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>>44217084
>game mentions that Akiha and co. once had a big cat they play with
Yes that's exactly my point why she's not related to Shiki. There wouldn't secretly be another Nanaya clan survivor. That makes zero sense. It also doesn't make sense that such a person would have the power to turn into a panther anyway.

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I just think Ciel is 16th.
Maybe they call her quinze because she's the possesses the inheritance ability that was developed by the 15th Roa or maybe because she's the 15th reincarnation.

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>>44217067
Well, the remake has multiple layer of mystery that the original simply doesn't, so unless you think it's going absolutely nowhere, you're just being ignorant at this point.

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>>44217123
>There wouldn't secretly be another Nanaya clan survivor
We don't know exactly for sure. Kiri has to be extremely significant in her life to have her consider him as her natural enemy. Nasu is more or less building her up as the Ilya of remake. My guess is Mio has been stuck with him since childhood but he just doesn't remember, and took him with her when they came in the Tohno Mansion

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>>44217193
took her with him*
or Mio followed him in the mansion but disguised as a cat/panther. I don't see how she can be related to Akiha otherwise, her character seems Nanaya-centric than Tohno-centric because it's somehow always Shiki she keeps an eye on

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>>44217193
>>44217226
"Shaping into another creatures" sound exactly like a Tohno-clan (or some branch family) power. She could do it out of her own will, Saiki could have ordered it, etc. There's a million possibilities. I don't buy the other idea because the whole point of Shiki's Nanaya past is that he lost literally everything he was and who he was. Going back and undoing that with "well actually this cute catgirl is your sister/cousin/whatever" is too cheap.

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>>44217243
How do you explain the >beware of my brother scratched warning then? iirc Shiki mentions that their heights at that time couldn't reach such a high place where Shiki saw the text. But with Mio's shapeshifting abilities, it might be possible

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>>44217243
I'd buy that she was sent by [Tohno-related character] to spy on the Nanaya's and became Shiki's friend before the massacre. Headcanon but I like how it sounds. I don't think they're related though

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>>44217123
there is clearly fuel based on everything we got so far so it's definitely not a dumb retarded theory at least. for instance the game credits doesn't even include her family name, and the first hospital scene mentions a little sister that is supposedly not akiha. most of the mio/panther stuff appearance seems to link her to shiki nanaya side of the narrative which i'm guessing will get expanded in the remake (probably through mio).

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>>44217107
The problem is we don't know exactly how Roa is counting and how the Tohno siblings connection affects it.
Flashback of Coffin 14 in a scene with 15 scratches. 15 scratches showing up in another scene with Nero in the wandering sea(So can't be Ciel I don't think). SHIKI in the 17th coffin. Don't actually see scratches anywhere for 16/17 in game. SHIKI saying he's died 16 times. ROACIEL redacting reincarnation #. There is definitely room for anything.

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>>44217261
Why would that have anything to do with Mio being related to the Nanayas

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>>44217301
He's suggesting that she turned into a cat and left a cryptic message about Nanaya.

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>>44217301
??? If Akiha isn't the one who wrote that (as the text highly implies because her height couldn't possibly reach such a place) then who else would call Shiki as their brother inside the mansion? Because the warning is clearly directed at him

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>>44217314
Shiki himself?

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>>44217314
Remind me the day and route this scene takes place in

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>>44217314
Why would the message be talking about Shiki? It makes no sense already from that point of view. We don't know who wrote it, but it is almost certainly talking about SHIKI.

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>>44217314
besides the height thing, akiha would never use 兄貴 for shiki or SHIKI anyway

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>>44217314
SHIKI?

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>>44217326
Didn't Akiha call SHIKI 兄貴 in the OG when she was talking about him to Shiki? It's been a while.

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>>44217325
How could it be about SHIKI if he wasn't even in the mansion when Shiki returned? The only other man in the mansion was Gouto, it's a warning from Mio.

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>>44217279
Yeah the main problem is we don't know if characters are starting from 0 or 1 when counting these, or if Roa is marking his current body or his next one ahead of time

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>>44217344
No.

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>>44217379
She obviously explain that she was his brother in some way. I just don't remember the exact terms.

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>>44217344
don't remember honestly, akiha never considered SHIKI as her brother, and i don't think she was close to him at all even in their childhood. i can see shiki using that for SHIKI though, but it's a brand new scene from the remake so i won't be surprised if it's leading to something else.

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>>44217365
What? Mio most likely knows SHIKI is alive and doing shit out there. It makes perfect sense as a warning.

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>>44217344
No, only 兄, 私の兄, or by his name.

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>>44217401
Ah okay that sounds right.

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>>44217322
Day 9 Arcueid route

>>44217325
Because Mio is aware that Shiki is from a demon hunter clan and the Tohno family are demons?
>>44217340
Shiki already said that Akiha couldn't possibly reach that height and it's not her handwriting.

Pic related. The OG text of the warning is >aniki ni ki wo tsukero so it's a lot more vague in the JP text

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>>44217448
I meant what if SHIKI wrote it for Akiha, but now that I say it it doesn't make much sense.
Mio acting as some protectorate this whole time sounds fine but it still sounds like an odd thing for her to write

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>>44217448
>Because Mio is aware that Shiki is from a demon hunter clan and the Tohno family are demons?
It doesn't make any sense. Shiki was never any danger. If Mio was presumably watching over Shiki even then, she should know this.

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>>44217482
Her and Gouto do share the same last name, and we know that Shiki was visited by a scary man in a suit "and his sister" in the hospital, which couldn't have been Akiha since they never met again until his return to the mansion.
>>44217503
What if it's a warning about the one guy in the mansion who managed to get the drop on Shiki and kill him in a bad end?

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>>44217448
How is the "brother" written in japanese. It actually might make a difference and be a hint

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>>44217448
solely based on OG knowledge, i would have guessed shiki but the game is clearly to build something with mio/panther having a relevant role in the mansion seeing how she appear in like 3 different character profile (hisui, kohaku, and shiki).

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>>44217523
the kanji of aniki

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>>44217516
I don't like that though, because if she was his biological sister Shota Shiki should probably call her that instead of just a cat

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>>44217516
Gouto? You would think he is too old to be 兄貴, but I guess technically nobody knows what his age actually is.

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>>44217548
how would it be Gouto when Shiki says it has his name on it?

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>>44217448
Why is it about Shiki? And I thought you guys said it was watch out for my brother but it says your brother? Could it be a warning to Shiki?

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>>44217527
You mean 兄貴 young kids would rather write アニキ I think

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>>44217534
there will be no mystery, just like how you would think that the little sister visiting shiki is akiha but the narrative is clearly trying to fuck the reader over by being purposely vague.

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>>44217548
Gouto's only 30.

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>>44217562
It's 兄貴

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>>44217560
the original JP text could go both ways because it's written a lot more vaguely (aniki ni ki wo tsukero could also refer to "my brother" especially when Akiha's the first person to come into Shiki's mind when he saw the text) but Tsukihimates went with "Watch out for your brother". The thing is, Shiki says it has his name on it but it isn't exactly revealed how the Shiki is written
>>44217562
The way it's worded is like one of Nasu's schizo writings where he meshes kanji with kana. But it could also imply how it's sloppily written because it's carved in the gazebo

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>>44217556
Nah that's just directing the message at Shiki. i.e. "Shiki, watch out for brother". Who is "brother" and who wrote it, well that's up for debate of course.

>>44217577
Ah yes it does say 30 in the character materials.

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>Nasu: Monsters are monsters because humans can't beat them. That thought begs the question: "What about Camazotz, who defeated ORT once?", but well, he's just a tremendous guy (laughs

THE BATMAN.

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It could also be SHIKI writing about himself.

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>>44217592
unless its just nasu being autist maybe the katakana are just present for extra emphasis. if not why bother writing in kanji anyway

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>>44217626
How utterly schizophrenic. And fitting

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>>44217629
Hiragana is too curly to easily carve into stone.

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>>44217625
He's just built different

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>>44217625
IM DA JOKAH BABY

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>>44217639
that would make sense, i guess. it's kinda retarded to write 兄貴 in kanji with that logic though, would have been easier to write everything in katakana.

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do you think we'll be getting even more shikis when farside releases?

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Isn't the phrase actually "beware of brother", according to one of the speculation threads on reddit? Could be anyone's brother.

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did the lenwhale finally run out of money? the last commissioned art was over a month ago

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Red Garden can't come enough.

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>Shiki: "Ooga Booga where da white wimmin at"
>Shirou: "Ooga Booga where da white wimmin at"
>Kiritsugu: "Ooga Booga where da white wimmin at"

Anyone else?

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>>44217727
Roa. Zouken.

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>>44217766
arent both of them white?

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>>44216135
i will continue to call fgo shit no matter if gachafags care or not.

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>>44217727
me

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ORT confirmed for never appearing again by the way. Also Nasu's self aware Tsukihime isn't for powerlevel dickmeasuring shit (not sure why the fuck he wrote Ciel true then), so gives me hope for red garden not sucking.

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>>44217826
source?

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>>44217815
Roa is but Makiri/Matou sounds like a nip name.

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>>44217826
He just said ORT showing up in Tsukihime would result in the story not being the same. That's because ORT is literally nothing more than a big doomsday spider. Meanwhile Arc is a doomsday entity AND also a good character with depth. That's why you can have someone like Arc in Tsukihime while not shifting the story's focus being about Arc destroying the world (for the most part). Ciel True was fine because it was a lot more than just Arc destroying the world, it was also a personal fight between Arc, Ciel, Roa and Shiki.

ORT has nothing to add to such a story.

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>>44217841
Can you tell us why that ORT, who before only existed as a profile and pictures, would make his genuine appearance in FGO's main story?

Nasu: Because there wasn't anywhere else to release him. If I released him in the context of Tsukihime, the game would become not what people want out of Tsukihime, and FGO was a perfect place to release him since it's a travel across the ends of many timelines. Making you fight a subspecies of ORT at the end of LB7 has been the plan from the start.
>>44217826
>Confirmed
Until he decides to add it to Melty as a humanoid vampire ally.

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>>44217727
Shirou is probably horniest for Rin out of the three heroines though. Even the HF wet dream seems to indicate that he finds her the most attractive on a purely sexual level.

I think Nasu just likes hyping up his type, since Shiki is very similar with Akiha.

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>>44217880
He could just make Ort into a waifu like Arc

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>>44217911
Of course the black haired modest body japanese tsun girl is the best of the bunch, nothing new here

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>>44217826
Ciel True isn't just about that though. Scalers missing the forest for the trees.
>>44217912
He already made ORT into a waifu like Arc. Isn't that basically what Kuku is

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>>44217948
Yeah but fuck that shit, give me a proper character that isn't some bullshit mix of 7 different things

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>>44217948
>Kuku
Not really. Even Nasu considers them different going by how he just said sorry abby, kuku, GF could only be ORT.

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>>44217892
>If I released him in the context of Tsukihime, the game would become not what people want out of Tsukihime, and FGO was a perfect place to release him since it's a travel across the ends of many timelines.
Okay so he actually does get why people like Tsukihime, I wasn't sure if he knew for sure.

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>>44217984
if he does, why did he write anything like that dumb true ending?

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>>44218037
Oh no here we go again

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>>44217880
>Ciel True was fine because it was a lot more than just Arc destroying the world, it was also a personal fight between Arc, Ciel, Roa and Shiki.
so any retarded powerlevel shit is fine as long as its a "personal fight". cant wait for it to be okay for akiha to rip apart the mansion and destroy the city because she got upset at Shiki choosing Kohaku over her.

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>>44218045
i've read jap with similar opinions, especially in regard to the overall pacing. let's be honest, there is nothing wrong about admitting that nasu did not deliver for that particular ending. it doesn't change the fact that it's a solid remake otherwise.

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>>44218050
Nasu doesn't say anything about power levels and it doesn't make sense in that capacity since world threats are built into the setting. It's probably more that a stupid raid against an machine-like alien spider with no character would be retarded.

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>>44218037
Because that's not what it's talking about. It's not even really remotely the same scale as what Arc is doing, but one of these is whole world banding together to fight a giant space spider with no character that got hyped up in books a couple times that no one gives a single shit about besides that fact that it's strong and the other is actually, yes, an actual resolution to all the remaining personal conflicts that make up Near Side. It's really important to everyone involved and there really isn't another way to do something like this, and it's not even that big and flashy if you want to be real about it
What would ORT add to Tsukihime? You'd get something to wank over and that's it. No one gives a fuck what does this have to do with Shiki Tohno or his life or his relationships? Arc isn't the main character, stuff isn't happening to give her things to fight and look cool over. That's the point. It's not even about the power, notice that Nasu never actually says power, it's that the context is completely different. There's essentially nothing in common between these fights besides a very, very surface level aesthetic. It's being filtered because it's big.

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>>44218081
>i've found other retards like me
very cool

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>>44218148
just because the remake was your first VN doesnt mean it doesnt have flaws or that people cant like it.

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>>44218212
The fact that you can only call it "retarded powerlevel shit" is proof that you, yourself, cannot see beyond powerlevels ironically. I don't take trash opinions seriously.

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>>44218258
The fact that you have only played one VN means that you, yourself, cannot see beyond the True Ending ironically. I don't take trash opinions seriously.

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>>44218284
People that have read many more VNs than you (including myself) are allowed to like the true ending. Grow up.

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[Anonymous No.]

Regarding a Tsukihime collaboration. Arcueid was released during the 7th Anniversary. Nasu is happy with the reaction of the fans to her release. Arcueid isn't in the Story yet, but it looks like she might be one day. Takeuchi and Nasu discuss about the timing of a collaboration, but Nasu thinks there's a more interesting way to release Tsukihime characters on FGO. If a collaboration is going to happen, a lot of characters are going to have to be introduced like Shiki, Ciel, Akiha and others... It seems difficult, so Arcueid is released for the 7th anniversary. Still, it's not fair to have the heroine A (Arcueid) and not the heroine B (Ciel). Nasu agrees with this point but says that she won't appear so "easily" because he wants to find an interesting way of introducing Ciel.

Source: Famitsu August 2023 issue

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https://twitter.com/shop_nui_bnn/status/1686950164752424960
The three heroines.

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>>44218294
People who have actually read more than one VN wouldn't take someone not liking something they like as a personal attack.

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>>44218362
>Arcueid isn't in the Story yet, but it looks like she might be one day.
It's called the tsukihime event.

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>>44217937
>rin
>modest

lol lmao

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>>44218441
She's not a flatboard like Saber and she's not a whore like Sakura

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>>44218450
yeah but her ass

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>>44218468
Cute and fuckable, still you know what I meant by modest body

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More importantly will Satsukis route deliver?

Because Nasu has to undo 20+ years of damage of her being relegated to joke character

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>>44217727
And that’s why Sono-G is the best. The only one to outright reject a potential love interest and only care about work over white women. It’s why he’s the best male TM character.

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Does Nasu still have the Touch?
Because im getting mixed signals here with some calling the remake good and others calling it shit.

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>>44218520
The remake is better, some people are just too retarded and scared of change even when the framework of the story, characters and their interactions doesn't change from it.

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>>44218362
It'd be funny if they actually do something with the other characters when Arc just got plopped in. Surreal that people are really looking forward to Ciel now

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Rather than powerlevel creep im more concerned about character bloat

Was the mummy guy, the panther girl and the nun teacher really necessary for TsukiR? And even then why not introduce them in the far side routes?

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has the remake been translated yet?

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>>44218520
Try reading more opinions until you find one you like enough to make it your own.

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>>44218558

I NEED the consensus of the hivemind

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>>44218468
But it's not especially large either? It's firm, shapely and "larger than it looks", but it's moderately sized. Which is perfect, by me!

>>44217937
Oh yeah, I completely agree. I just think the "Takeuchi likes muh huwhite wahman" bit is overdone.

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>>44218545
Set up for routes, while just obscuring choices out from the player for routes not available.
Yes introducing them early on helps, and having bad ends that veer into far side routes and even pointed out by the game as such is nice.
Noel, Arach and Mario already prove that having more GOOD characters added to the story only help to improve it.

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>>44218585
I mean, I can understand him. He just puts his fetish everywhere and it works. Not like maids and white women are that out there in terms of fetishes to push in games.

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>>44218545
Original Tsukihime suffered from not having any characters imo. It makes sense Nasu would want to expand the world when that's been a key thing he did in every spin off. The near side characters he's gotten around to do stuff with fit very well so far so I'll trust him to keep cooking
>>44218585
Shiki might not even like other white women that much either, just Arc.

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MYSTIC EYES OF DEATH PERCEPTION!!!

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>>44218545
Saiki is 100% absolutely necessary. I will not accept any other perspective.

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>>44218545
How can you say that after looking at Mio?
God I want to ravage her body sexually

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imo the real question is will Nasu reintroduce Akira in red garden

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>>44218634
What do you mean? The 1st day should be mostly the same, but I would assume Red Garden would branch on the second day from the far side.

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>>44218645
from the near side* obviously

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>>44218545
That's because Nasu cooking biggest fucking murder mystery in Nasuverse, something insane about Shiki past with there being 2 years gap between Nanaya Shiki "dying" / Tohno Shiki being "born" and him getting killed by SHIKI. I can't even keep up with all those hints.

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I just want him to win.

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Sacchin is popular oh yes she is

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>>44218545
>the nun teacher really necessary for TsukiR?
Yes for Ciel's character development

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>>44218599
Just saying Nasu's fetishes seep into his the works more than Takeuchi's do.

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>>44218819
"evil whore woman" seeps into everything?

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>>44218565
https://vndb.org/v?f=&s=24w
top 10

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I cant control it! I NEED to Raep and Kill! <--every nasu protagonist ever

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>>44218829
We won Ciel route saved Tsuki re

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>>44218701
Also the Roa numbering.

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Shiki has killed Arc twice in every route

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>>44218744
hopefully there will be some sexual tension between him and shiki. there is not enough yaoi in tsukihime imo,

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>>44218856
And him supposedly being born in 1500s but reincarnating as DA for 800 years

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This was the best scene in Mahoyo

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>>44206083
So what is this French Incident and why does the wiki misinterpret it? It clearly had Chromclay Petastructure as the castle guy and I think the bowler hat dude is lord Rozay-En with his daughters, not Van-Fem + Rita as a separate participant. How did Elesia incapacitate Arc? Who was the 6th participant that screwed Roa?

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>>44218943
Van Fem is all but confirmed rest is ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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>>44218943
It's never a good idea to look at the wiki.
Who do you think the girl is if not Rita?

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>>44218978
Completely different suits IMO.
>>44218985
It doesn't matter who she is, there's like no reason to introduce lord Rozay-En, specify that he had multiple daughters, show a CG with an aristocratic guy surrounded by women to then make him Van-Fem.

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>>44218529
What if you just find the changes retarded and that the original framework of Near Side was shit from the start?

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>>44219010
I like the theory that they're his six golems

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>>44218829
>Top 10
>Uminegro
>Muramasa
>White Album
do you think this is convincing

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>>44219041
Considering Muramasa is peak kino, maybe.

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>>44218829
>>44219041
vndb changed their rating system and made it retarded, but it seems like it's slightly less stupid now. I remember Oppai Maid Gakuen was above Fate/Stay Night and Mahoyo for a while there.

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>>44218978
>>44218943
This probably 22th Castle of Chromclay, DAA who killed by Ciel

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>>44219041
imagine reading muramasa in english lmaoo

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>>44218823
You've been getting slapped with giantess shit for years, put it together

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>>44219083
same applies to most VNs desu

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>>44218943
>How did Elesia incapacitate Arc?
Roa says Ciel's body is peak human, Even mages at the top of their field (Zelretch, Aoko, Touko) would look like rusted-out clunkers when compared to Ciel's body.

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>>44219107
Arc's backup makes individual capabilities meaningless, since she is always stronger than her opponent.

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>>44219116
there are things you can do in a fight other than hitting the enemy really hard

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>>44219107
Roa-Ciel > 1st Original Roa

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>>44218362
I hope he finds a interesting way to include the tsukihime cast into fgo instead of "oh here they are and we dont know why or how"

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>>44219360
Why would you give a single shit about fgo?

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next olympics when

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>>44219421
2028 USA olympic

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>>44219456

I fucking HATE FGO

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>>44219421
This time next year.
We're gonna make it bro.

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Please tell me Nasu can finally work on the far side routes and whatever fgo shits going on wont stop him

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>>44219501
2024 isn't too delusional right... they'll announce a release date by then surely

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>>44219529
I feel like 2024 is the year it stops being delusional to expect RG news, but I'm not holding by breath.

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>>44219534
>>44219501
>>44219529

Fate/Extra Record (2024)
FGO Part 3 (2025)
Tsukihime farside (2026)

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>>44218513
I haven't paid attention to the remake, did they really put it in the modern day?

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>>44219623
Yea, but the only real change it had was giving Shiki a phone that is only ever used for a joke with Akiha. It's in the category of unnecessary, but not bad changes next to changing Ciel's hair.

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>>44219623
>2014
>modern

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>>44219623
They used apple smartphone.

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does takeuchi still draw people as giraffes

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pain

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I thought Reincarnation existed in the Nasuverse, why does he say this?

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>>44219998
It doesn't? Roa is an exception not the rule.

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>>44219997
Is Shiki dumb?

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>>44220081
Main Girl Who Were Completely Forgotten

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Nasu: Of course having Heroine A in the game its not right not to have Heroine B (Ciel) in the game as well.

That's what I've always been thinking about but I can't just have her appear so easily.
I'll do my best to tease her in the most interesting way. I trust you future Nasu!

>I can't just have her appear so easily.
I'll do my best to tease her in the most interesting way.
So... next FGO MC will be Ciel...??

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Can Arc dodge an attack by temporarily shifting to the Inner Sea of the Planet akin to Hippogriff and Avalon (NP)?

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Mio's last name WILL be Nanaya. She doesn't have a route because Nasu's a pussy and only ships NBR siblings.

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>>44220374
I will fuck her.

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>>44220374
He didn't include her name so he has plausible deniability when he writes the Mio route(in MBTL probably.)

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Shiki drunk on Roa is pretty funny

And the day keeps getting better and better. The Arach vaccine scene, then Ciel with the Seventh Holy Scripture in the tea room

...I wonder how can Arach be so blatant and yet escape the notice of Arc and the churchies?

I'm also puzzled with how Roa has only burned through 16 incarnations in 800 years (average 50y/incarnation) given that Arc always torches him soon after becoming active. This was already a problem in the OG, wasn't it?

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Altria

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>>44217727
Takeuchi

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>>44220199
I think she's gonna be a new version of whatever what if the "Count" is from.

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>>44219107
He never mentioned them, just general praise, bro. Weknow what his face in Clocktower (the guy who adopts a lot of kids) have better usage of his magic circuits or something than Ciel.

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>>44207989
>>44208208
It looks similar, but Nasu specified they have no correlation after he brought the similar visuals.

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>>44220932
>(the guy who adopts a lot of kids)
Who? Trambellio? He has faster recovery time per turn IIRC.

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>>44217948
Kuku isn't ORT, but ORT's archetype of its core, which is also resulted of Malla, she's as much as that as ORT.

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>>44220932
Ciel is extremely gifted at Magecraft, having by sheer random chance mutated to be born with very powerful Magic Circuits.It is stated that if the average Magi's mana generation was 20, then Ciel's is 5000. Ciel has over twice the amount of Magical Energy than Clock Tower's record holder McDonell Trambellio Elrod

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>>44220932
Then who are "mages at the top of their field"

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>>44219998
>>44220056
No, reincarnation exists, but it's like a blank slate so your HEART/mind DO die, your soul continues to next body and is another life. The ones who even retain their origins like Lio get mega fucked up.

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>>44221040
Right. I knew it was something. Nasu already came up with excuses.
>>44221080
Absolutely, but I'm just saying Roa was making a general overhyped statement and in no way he was including Aoko or Zelretch as lesser.
>>44221083
See above.

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>>44221080
>Elrod
Is that new Chaldea girl one of his adopted kids?

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>>44221113
Indeed, albeit Ciel also has the option of using an Idea Blood as a reactor core, causing a "loss in her humanity becoming closer to a monster", like she did when fighting Arc.

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>>44221303
Nasu said monsters like ORT can't be defeated by humans. That's what makes them monsters. Perhaps why Shiki and the cast are those associated with lacking humanity or being monsters in their own right I suppose? It makes me feel like this is prevalent in his mind when he writes for Tsuki settings and develops its character themes as opposed to the humanity fuck yeah of Fate.

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[Anonymous No.]

>When Shiki says something so stupid you have to hit him with that True Ancestor Stare
https://files.catbox.moe/6gj32x.mp4

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>>44222341
Yeah, he did say that in the recent interview didn't he? Maybe the reason for that is because Tsukihime world in general is kind of monsterizing due to CM casting a curse upon the world.

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>>44224704
Probably more because if ORT awakens, it'd be the end of the world fast enough and the chara will be more busy trying to avert the apocalypse than living off their lives and having romance

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>>44224794
Nah I think he was talking about it from a lore standpoint. Notice he states every time you fight an otherwise invincible opponent from a lore-standpoint, you have the option of adding the likes of U-Olga or Kukulcan in your party because you need them.

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I think it is also thematic. The idea that "psychics" and superhuman bloodlines are treated as non-humans drives it home. Tsukihime in general is about inhuman elements and characters. I believe Nasu even mentioned this as part of the the difference between Fate in that 4gamer interview post remake.

Shiki himself was from a clan of humans that were discriminated against more than mixedbloods and carries powers great enough to be considered by Arc as nothing other than a monster. Toss in Nanaya and you get themes of him possessing a component that makes him no different if not worse than the monsters he's fighting. A wolf among the herd as it is put in KT.

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Can you survive another year?

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>>44225395
Depends on evo.

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>>44225395
I can't kill myself before red garden comes out so I have to survive

[Anonymous No.]

Will we see tsukihime 2 before 2040?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm new, only played the og tsuki and kagetsu tohya


How did they write the rape scenes in the remake? Does shiki still assault arc in the park in that one bad end?

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>>44225493
>Will we see tsukihime 2
lol

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>>44225516
play it and find out

[Anonymous No.]

Seiba’s small toes

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>...

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>>44225529
Nasu expressed a desire to make it. Which is a lot more than can be said for other things like FSN Remake. Now that's lol worthy.

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>>44221080
The number of magic circuits is not the only indicator of potential, their quality is also important. For example, Touko Aozaki has 20, Souren Araya has 30.

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>>44225872
why would he remake something that's already perfect?

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>>44225872
There's no reason to remake FSN, so why would he. It's actually good

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>>44225872
He also wanted to rewrite Fate route, and we know what happen to that.

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>>44225996
He rewrote the Fate route for the DEEN anime though. And then added stuff to UBW anime as well. Besides, there's tons of stuff that can be done with Fate, even realta nua's sprites look dated when compared to the modern Takeuchi's pics.

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>>44225947
>>44225981
Some Fatefags think it's needed.
Aylesbury Geocentrism is an actual thing in Nasu's mind, he considers it part of the timeline similar to Hollow

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>>44225872
There is no point in making a remake of FSN. Tsukihime unlike him was extremely outdated both in the technical part and even in the plot

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>>44226140
a remaster, let alone a remake would be a tremendous effort. doubt nasu will ever entertain that idea when one of the major reason we aren't getting more mahoyo is because it's way too much effort.

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>>44226433
Not saying it's not, just that he's bound to do something because of the F/sn anniversary next year.

[Anonymous No.]

Will this be SHIKI's final design? maybe wearing a yukata?

[Anonymous No.]

kek sion is in the new under night before melty
>>44226757
you don't know anything about VN

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>>44226766
That and white hair, why did SHIKI's hair turn white to begin with? Abusing his mixed blood powers?

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>>44226916
I don't think that was ever explained apart from the meta reason of wanting him to look different to Roa.
It's not canon but all the art you see of young SHIKI gives him white hair too.

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>>44226916
white hair is fitting for oni blood

[Anonymous No.]

Sion is back bros…

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>>44226140
FSN and Melty are Takeuchi at his peak. Everything after was just downhill. Yes, FSN sprites are better than the Remake's.

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>>44225516
Cut out. They also cut out the "I'll rape you." line.

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>>44226994
remember, the only reason sion isn't in melty is because nasu is the biggest hack

[Anonymous No.]

Which type moon product has the biggest fetish for white girls

[Anonymous No.]

Which type moon game gave you a fetish for white girls

[Anonymous No.]

>>44226994
Yeah but illusion is back as illgames and they're making honey come

[Anonymous No.]

>>44226994
This means meltybros were right. Update coming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44227673
Announcement at EVO? Hell yes, I wonder which new character they'll introduce.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44227786
Just hopium. Uni2 was announced but they could still announce melty after finals tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44226994
Literally this

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>>44228098
Hardcore battle-hardened Melty Sion > Nu-Sion.

[Anonymous No.]

What does /tmg/ think of Fate/Samurai Remnant?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44228177
I don't think about it at all.

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>>44226916
In fairness, that's not particularly contrived. Akiha and Kouma's hair turn red

[Anonymous No.]

>>44226766
Of course not. Hell, Roa even explains why he and SHIKI ook different in a bad end. He can't fully take over someone who's fully insane.

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>>44228289
>look different
but they look the same. Roa just slicks his hair back.
The only difference as far as I can tell is the freaky right eye.

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>>44228314
Pretty sure Roa gave himself a slight haircut via magic so he could rock that mullet when he fully takes over. I would bet that whatever SHIKI will look like will be completely different.

[Anonymous No.]

So cute…

[Anonymous No.]

Migoto da...

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>>44228177
the premise of going through edo is cool, and the protagonist actually looks competent but the game seems to be filled with gacha garbage so i'm not interested. doesn't help that the game is releasing with so many potential great games around so it's definitely not a priority.

[Anonymous No.]

Can nu-Ciel defeat Servants?

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>>44228602
Servants aren't special. Anyone can defeat them.

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>>44228609
I feel like people forgot that F/SN has several instances of humans defeating servants.

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>>44228609
>>44228636
Servants have gotten a lot weaker but Ciel used to be below even average ones. She seems overpowered now but there are also a lot of broken Servants these days.

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>>44228643
"average servant" doesn't exist

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>>44228648
Tell that to Nasu

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>>44228672
Sure. Got his phone number?