/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Janestyle, a popular application for browsing 5ch, dropped support for 5ch.net on the 10th of July. The API key that it used got revoked. And get this, every other 3rd party application that relied on the "Jane API key" is now broken as well (which, to my knowledge, is all of them). Japs are now in complete panic mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993772
is it related to reddit doing a similar move, these website owners are trying to exert more control or something?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993772
realistically 4chan killed 3rd party apps long ago with the impossible captcha system for posting, at least I haven't found any that work with mobile anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993800
Could be, Twitter definitely started a chain reaction of API stupidity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993772
Any alternative?

[Anonymous No.]

I was wondering wtf happened when my chmate stopped working
I guess jim watkins is really going full shekelgrabber now

>>43993803
This is true, I don't think you can post from any of the apps anymore. Blue clover is great for lurking though

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993879
Currently, no, as the API server was solely in Jane's hands, and it doesn't look like there will be any other API-like means of access for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993772
All the threads I browse are ghost towns. One of the most active threads I frequent, which gets 1000'd once and sometimes twice, in some special occasions thrice a day, has been up for nearly 2 days. Is it over?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43994498
Might be delusional but feels like this could cause long-term user dropoff if this keeps up a bit more. 5ch users already call it a site for old people, I think a lot of the kids are close to ditching it for twitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>43994284
Apparently changing the "ch" in the URL to "Ch" will let you load threads through mate

[Anonymous No.]

>>43994914
>for twitter
Twitter is dying, and you can't post anonymously there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43995959
Wtf I thought Musk was our guy???

[Anonymous No.]

>>43994914
>Might be delusional
You're right, and I mean that in the nicest way possible. API changes mean nothing to the end user, even if an end user is a 5ch posters, and 5ch especially has been in a constant state of "the site is dying guys we gotta go" with basically no one ever actually going. There's something you know better than anyone; when you pick a site, you stick with it. That's why you're still unironically looking at /jp/ in 2023. That's why am I!
>>43995959
Everythings anonymous if you disconnect it from your "main account" nowadays. You could be ななし with an @ like s765Hdaf3547lkjwrftw and many people are. Granted the people who try to be anonymous on bigger websites like that are usually just the kind to get pissy about whatever rather than ever actually talk about anything but that's a different conversation.

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>>43995959
Twitter is doing ok. It will be fine.

[None !5DldvxaS3I No.]

>>43993879
I moved to Siki. It was uncomfortable at first but actually it's better than Jane Style once you get used to.

[None !5DldvxaS3I No.]

>>43994498
Maybe it is because you are watching Talk(talk.jp) not 5ch. JaneStyle still works (both mobile and PC) but it is now a browser for Talk which is basically a 5ch copy site. It is hardly noticeable from 3rd party browser, other than Talk has less people. I don't know about the details but apparently someone wanted to take 5ch users and bring them to Talk. But it was failed because their move was too sudden and forced.

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>>43997498
This is what I use as well, it has support for browsing 4chan/futaba and many other bbs.

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>>43993772
>>43993800
>>43993835
what with people shutting down API lately? I don't understand why they keep making everything worse and worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001329
The web has consolidated to such an insane degree that each of the 10 or so sites people regularly use now has a monopoly over its domain

When that whole reddit drama was happening I lol'd at anyone who suggested another exodus was possible, like the whole Digg thing was gonna repeat itself. That's just about as likely as Texas seceding from the union or something. The internet is just like the Wild West, both a vast, endless frontier that was mapped out, settled & sold to the highest bidder. Everything is consolidated. Fuck the end user, you can do whatever you want to 'em. Not to say the reddit blackout wasn't very pathetic but even if they did everything right it's not like it would have done anything. 5ch is twitter is reddit is the same

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001352
The end of history was suppose to happened. We were supposed to live in eternal Y2K era forever with limit government/media consolidation of the net and infinite website domains that could stretch on forever like a garden of eden of happiness. I don't understand how these bad things could happening afterward why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001352
Even ignoring the consolidation part, people don't like to leave "their" websites to begin with unless it literally shuts down, which was way more common back in the day with forum-hopping.
>>44001393
Capitalism. Standards of all kinds of things go up, it costs more and more to run things which make it harder and harder for everyone else to start their own thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44000778
is it a pc app?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001577
This, and the average intelligence of people is average... before the internet started to suck, it was populated mostly by above average people

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001393
That's just how life is. What goes up, must come down.

"It's a bad sign when things are going too well"

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>>43993803
4chan is delightfully open, I've written my own clients for command line and monitoring. I don't use them to post though, just browse. If you can handle json and takes its a breeze.
I have been meaning to tru doing something for 5ch because the web interface is so horrible I hardly ever use it.

[Anonymous No.]

surely hiro would never jew us on the API r-right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44002021
why are none of the 3rd party apps able to do posting at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44002072
I thought at least one of them had the slider captcha integrated
90%+ 4chan users are lurkers anyway so it's not like it matters much

[Anonymous No.]

>>44002094
if you know which one it is let me know, preferably for iphone but I also have an android too

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001329
>what with people shutting down API lately?
There’s a lot of buzz now about using social media site’s and their archives as training data for AI and the site owners want to be compensated for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44002371
yeah, Twitter is suing Meta for scraping their data to use for training their AI, pretty big lawsuit I think and they do have a valid point

[Anonymous No.]

>>44002371
That's really just the cover. API's are something you have to work hard to properly maintain and only gets worse as more and more developers want to use it, while also providing you basically no direct income outside of the now-hefty licensing fees. Course, that's not to say AI isn't the problem because in most cases it is, but the real problem has always been "we don't give a fuck about anyone using our site to make money or make things easier for anyone". If you don't believe me I'll direct you to the whole fuss about people getting shadowbanned for, and I shit you not;

Posting fucking links.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44002474
well if they are posting links to spam, it makes sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>44002489
Posting ANY links anon. Ranging from youtube to pixiv to a dead geocities page and everything inbetween has a chance of getting you shadowbanned. And having some in your profile only puts a bigger target on your back.

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>>44002537
Makes sense from a product management perspective. Don't want your cattle to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001329
we had a decade and a half of fake economy propped up by cheap credit after the 2008 crash, now interest rates are rising again and suddenly everyone built on loans and VC capital needs to start showing a profit

[Anonymous No.]

>>44002184
Readchan works for android.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44002184
I use kurobaEX for Android.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001623
Yes
https://sikiapp.net/

[Anonymous No.]

any of you gaijins go there before? what it feels like? need for research purpose

[Anonymous No.]

>>44003489
thanks

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>>44002072
I don't know, i haven't tried any of them and never tried to implement posting. So you're right in that sense, it's not so open. But when I am writing code I usually just want to browse/ analyze data, and in that sense it's very easy - you can basically just append '.json' to any 4ch URL and you're done.
Look up biblioteca anonyma if you want more on how the internals work.

[Anonymous No.]

https://find.5ch.net/search?q=api

[Anonymous No.]

>>44009673
https://find.5ch.net/search?q=jane

[Anonymous No.]

>>44002072
The only real reason is that it is a bitch to implement 4chan's custom captcha compared to the read-only API .

>>44002021
>I don't use them to post though, just browse.
A little known fact - if you have a 4chan pass and the proper cookies you can still post from the straight HTML form without loading the captcha or any javascript, so I assume you could integrate POST replies if your had a pass..

[Anonymous No.]

>>44005379
I exclusively browse jfoods every so often just to see the deals and the shitposting.
It's like Japanese /ck/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44009769
link please?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44010824
https://itest.5ch.net/subback/jfoods?orderby=ikioi

[Anonymous No.]

>>44005379

I look up info on announcers.
>>43998069
>>44001066

I use this userscript to embed the images that are linked to in posts.
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468685-5ch-net-image-inserter

[Anonymous No.]

>>44010844
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

なんｇ is the best anon board on the internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>44018752
What's the difference between なんg and なんj ?

g - https://nova.5ch.net/livegalileo/
j - https://eagle.5ch.net/livejupiter/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44018829
j used to be the best board but something happened to the servers i think and all the fun people migrated to g
now j is 過疎ってる and g is 最強

[Anonymous No.]

>>44005379
There's one place that I know of where non-Japanese are allowed to post.
https://lavender.5ch.net/english/

[Anonymous No.]

Use 2ch.sc instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44020373
hiro simp

[Anonymous No.]

is there a Japanese language board that posts a lot of gravure like every day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44020488
https://fate.5ch.net/idol/

Sample threads:

Kikuchi Hina #19
https://fate.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/idol/1688118101

Fubuki Kei #2
https://fate.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/idol/1667495296

Meiri
https://fate.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/idol/1637576201

Use this userscript to make images viewable.
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468685-5ch-net-image-inserter

[Anonymous No.]

>>44020540
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993803
KurobaEx+autocaptcha is da way

[Anonymous No.]

>>44020488
Go to find.5ch.net and search for グラビア or anything else you're curious about. It seems to do a thread title search.
https://find.5ch.net/search?q=%E3%82%B0%E3%83%A9%E3%83%93%E3%82%A2

[Anonymous No.]

>>44025256
cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>44025256
slim pickins for that search term unfortunately

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001329
To be fair, most sites aren't shutting down the API, they're putting a price or free limits on it.
In this case it looks like the API key that one group was using was also being used by a number of other groups for their apps, which is a dumb situation to be in. If you have API keys then they should be given either to specific users or to specific applications so that if the user/application is misbehaving you can invalidate that key.
If the key is shared around then the misbehavior of one actor affects all the others.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44020540
This is their equivalent of the catalog is behind a link that reads : スレッド全一覧はこちら
https://fate.5ch.net/idol/subback.html

In it's default state, it's an unreadable wall of text. Click on the green link at the top that says 表示スタイル切替 to put each thread on its own line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44020540
Their equivalent of the catalog is behind a link that reads : スレッド全一覧はこちら
https://fate.5ch.net/idol/subback.html

In its default state, it's an unreadable wall of text. Click on the green link at the top that says 表示スタイル切替 to put each thread on its own line.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993803
>>43994284
Chance is what I use on mobile now. It has a built-in capcha solver.

[Anonymous No.]

The talk.jp guys are using bots to fake traffic, making up fake baseball games and filling them with bot posts saying UOOOOOHHHH and LET'S GOOOOOOOOO lol

[Anonymous No.]

If you write "Does anyone else?", like 5 bots will reply "I do!" no matter what

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034846
is that a phone app?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44037239
>>44037365
This is more validation for the dead internet theory.
https://forum.agoraroad.com/index.php?threads/dead-internet-theory-most-of-the-internet-is-fake.3011/

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>>44038096
It's honestly not all that hard to achieve if you want to do it.
Hell, I made a fake procedurally generated 4chan for fun many many years ago.
The basic version was a simple sentence generator, but the 2nd version that I never bothered to complete would have been a way more substantial system that generated a virtual person with likes/dislikes and behaviours. (I used that system for something else entirely though)

Websites killing off APIs will only make it harder for bots, but not impossible.
I mean, let's face it, what is cheaper for a website operator -
1) a controlled API that gives only the required data that is requested
2) a bot loading the page directly, requesting unnecessary crap, wasting even more bandwidth
I'd rather have the API, even if people never paid for it. Simply have API limits for abusers, problem solved.
This whole "either or" approach is retarded. It only causes a cat and mouse game where they inevitably lose.
Someone wanting to scrape your site(s) without permission WILL scrape it whether you want it or not.
Only massive websites can afford to create complex obfuscation and DRM to stop people scraping data, and they inevitably fall as all have previously. (DRM especially)

Current captchas are flawed.
The shitty one on here was beaten in 7 hours by someone on /g/ for shits and giggles.
It has since been taken advantage of by spammers and botters for malicious reasons. (usually spamming threads to shut them down directly or indirectly via frustration)

[Anonymous No.]

>>44048274
It's almost as if, with enough permutations, someone can build a neural net to recognise letters and numbers with accuracy approaching that of a human.

Honestly, these days anti-bot stuff is just a bare minimum skill barrier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44048343
Yep
I even called it the day they added it that it was going to get cracked open so fucking easily.
I expected it would take maybe a day or 2, but when I woke up the next day it was done in 7 hours.
The fact this piece of shit captcha is still in place is mindboggling.
They're either being paid to keep it there or they don't give a fuck. So many boards are filled with obvious and not-so-obvious spam and bot posts.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>44048274
>The shitty one on here was beaten in 7 hours by someone on /g/ for shits and giggles.
I didn't know that, did someone make an app that can beat it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44053372
None public that I know of.
There's one that was used by some Discord shitters, and some by some other imageboard to spam /b/ with.
The guy on /g/ never released his because he knew it would be abused, but he did show his overall progress and got thread-deleted several times in the process. Probably banned too. lol

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>>43993803
I never understood what the point of IB apps was. I mean, on PC things like 4chanX are obviously better but the phone apps just dumb down the whole experience considerably further.
And why do phonefags complain about the captcha? Is it because they are iToddlers who can't figure out how to install a proper, full-sized keyboard on their shit phones?
For me browsing image boards on my phones is almost no different than on my PC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43996598
>Everythings anonymous if you disconnect it from your "main account" nowadays. You could be ななし with an @ like s765Hdaf3547lkjwrftw and many people are.
No, you can't.
That's called namefagging, or personalityfagging, or avatarfagging, or tripfagging, or whatever you wanna call it. The fact remains that you assume a persona to which all posts made are tied to. This is completely against everything anon stands for - where each post is judged by its value alone, untethered to any pre-conceived personality.
Lurk ten more years.

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>>44054074
For 4chan it is just phone addiction
The 5ch app meanwhile is pretty much necessary since the site is designed so badly

>And why do phonefags complain about the captcha?
The most recent captcha update broke all 4chan apps but one in terms of posting
It is interesting though. If the goal was not to make it bot-proof then what was the goal of the new captcha?

[Anonymous No.]

I use the PC all the time when I am home, but when I am out and about I would like a quick easy way to check in here and make posts on the fly that isn't a complete pain like using the phone browser and trying to zoom in to read the captcha then zoom back out, etc

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>>44054795
not to mention it would be really nice to have a single all in one easy to use app to read and post multiple sites and easily see all the images, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

Which gets more traffic: 2ch or 5ch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44058843
is there a 3rd contender too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44062630
3ch isn't real

[Anonymous No.]

>>44062630
I prefer 1v1 over battle royale.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44062690
is 8ch gone forever?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44048912
it does seem to help though

[Anonymous No.]

>>44054648
>If the goal was not to make it bot-proof then what was the goal of the new captcha?
It's probably more effective than using Google's captcha simply because that's a service where there is a constant massive incentive to compromise it from more popular services. So while the 4chan captcha may be less sophisticated, it is more resilient against script-kiddies.

Also Google can't fuck over 4chan by pulling the carpet out from under them as easily now (Cloudflare still could).

[Anonymous No.]

>>44064769
I thought the issue with google's captcha was that it wasn't intended to be used as often as you would use it for posting, so it'd end up making it harder and harder to solve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993772
Why would they do this? Site itself is shit to use and navigate. Using janestyle was simply mandatory to have a good experience there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993803
Works on my phone

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>>44065009
Where'd you hear that from *besides* the people complaining it takes forever to solve? That was an issue if you had a suspect (privacy-sensitive) setup, because Google's captcha uses your personalized browser info to distinguish from bots. I don't think that specifically would be a big deal to the admins if the captcha was still effective at keeping bots out in the long term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993803
>impossible captcha system
Git gud

[Anonymous No.]

>>44069579
in this day and age, everyone should be privacy sensitive

[Anonymous No.]

>>44018829
cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993772
Jim Watkins is to blame

>JaneStyle expressed her feelings about the 5ch coup turmoil "Advertising space was stripped from 5ch management"

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/10072158.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>44074264
interesting

[Anonymous No.]

Am I wrong to think that one could build an interface to 5ch without an official API. Its web front end is ancient and doesn't change that much, so it seems like a stable target for scraping.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44082141
I wonder this too, preferably one that would auto load all the pics too

[Anonymous No.]

>>44020260
Thank you, I would really like to find some Japanese people to talk with.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44082502
I speak to Japanese people every day in person, must suck to be somewhere where this isn't what you can do too

[Anonymous No.]

>>44082639
Yes, I am learning two languages I can only barely speak locally and it's painful. I tried coping by making a new way to write the local language, nope didn't work, now I feel alienated in three ways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44082668
that is brutal, I'm going for a walk right now and will get to speak Japanese to someone in about 15 minutes

[Anonymous No.]

>>44082688
Still not sure how it happened. I'm going to go back into kobudo and see if that helps, there must be a way to migrate, or at least to meet more people in meatspace.
A good day to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44082424
>preferably one that would auto load all the pics too
My userscript does that, and it also lazy loads the images so that the images don't start loading until you scroll near enough to them. That way, image heavy threads won't crush your bandwidth as hard.

>5ch.net image inserter
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/468685-5ch-net-image-inserter

>Lazy Loading img tags
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Performance/Lazy_loading

[Anonymous No.]

>>43997498
you will never be japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>44083335
cool

[Anonymous No.]

>DAT file description
https://info.5ch.net/index.php/Monazilla/develop/dat

>DAT file url template
"https://${info.server}.${info.domain}/${info.board}/dat/${info.thread}.dat"

>Example
https://fate.5ch.net/idol/dat/1688118101.dat

>Corresponding Thread
https://fate.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/idol/1688118101

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086333
For a read-only system, you need this plus
+ a way to get a list of threads and
+ a way to get a list of forums.

That's all public info. It's spread across a lot of domains which makes it a bit more confusing than it had to be, but it's not insurmountable. I haven't investigated posting yet, but there are probably predictable endpoints for that too.

I'm left wondering, what the fuck do you need an API for? What did it even provide that wasn't already public data? I'm a 5ch noob so I sincerely don't know, but I'm curious.

[Anonymous No.]

how many hours of programming work would it take to make a mobile multi chan app that can read posts and auto load pics, and maybe to make it easier to add posting just give you a button to get the link to the post so you could just open it in your browser to do any posting?

[Anonymous No.]

[Sad news] All the proxies I used to post on 5ch with are blocked now

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088363
Look in to residential proxies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44088801
how do those work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086428
API's are way simpler to use and predictable

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993803
Currently posting from KurobaEx

[Anonymous No.]

Anything for iPhone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44091271
There are companies that rent IP addresses and bandwidth from people who have internet service subscriptions to their home, and this bandwidth is resold to whomever wants to appear as if they were a residential user. A lot of VPNs use IPs from big data centers, and those can be identified now, so this is the next step in the arms race between those who want to restrict access by country and those who want to have access.
https://proxyway.com/best/residential-proxies

[Anonymous No.]

>>44097982
That's funny

[Anonymous No.]

>>44097987
can you access those through a proxy? in other words, use say protonvpn to access the residential proxy to get the benefits of proton and be able to access sites that block the big data center vpns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44099869
I've never tried, but I'm sure someone could figure out a way to configure that kind of proxy chaining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44100019
I need to look into it, as it stands, normal vpns are kind of useless because almost all the sites one would want to use as a daily casual thing make it impossible to do with any of the big vpn companies. For example, even trying to sign up for instagram while on a vpn like mullvad or proton and you get banned for no reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44101086
VPN detection is very common now.
https://vpnapi.io/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44101179
what do you recommend?

[Anonymous No.]

i thought everyone moved to shitaraba already. except for couple of long running generals

[Anonymous No.]

>>44107392
That's just a 避難所

[Anonymous No.]

>>44053372
>>44053687
Pretty sure that AI model is public. KurobaEX and a firefox addon uses it.

[Anonymous No.]

Did they seriously block foreign IPs on the find subdomain or what?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44112396
Nah works for me in the US

[Anonymous No.]

>>44113560
Ah it works again now. Must've been maintenance. I see they also fixed the user interface, it's actually fucking usable now. Guess the whole JaneStyle thing shook 'em up a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44054074
This. I don't get the point of using apps for websites anyway. Why would I want yet another abstraction or some shit web-wrapper when i could just go in my browser that does everything the app does anyway?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44113644
I only use 4chan apps for the nsfw board when I'm having a toss. The gallery function is vital

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001577
judeo-capitalism, you mean. When exploited by bad actors, it becomes satanic and against the people, sucking off their wealth to the last penny. No one wins except the parasites at the very top.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44113644
I get why there are apps for 5ch. The UI on its web site is bad even by Web 1.0 standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44113644
The website was so broken for the past few years until literally today that it was pretty much unusable.
Like, you would have to scroll all the way near the bottom of the page just to see the actual posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44113644
on the phone the browser is extremely painful to use

[Anonymous No.]

>>44113653
especially vital for any of the other chans I think

[Anonymous No.]

>>44109181
any solutions for iPhone?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44117923
>on the phone the browser is extremely painful to use
I don't find this to be the case for 4chan. On Android, I install the Kiwi Browser which lets me install Violentmonkey extension. Then I can install 4chan X. That's been good enough for when I'm browsing on my phone.

5ch, on the other hand, is begging for a better UI. It's better on mobile than it is for desktop, but there's room for improvement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44126231
my eyes have difficulty with small print so I have to try to magnify and move the screen around to enter a post and work the captcha, it is quite painful

[Anonymous No.]

>>44126438
That's legitimate.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how hard it would be for Koruba to port to iphone

[Anonymous No.]

Have any of you Linuxfags tried this?
https://github.com/JDimproved/JDim

[Anonymous No.]

The scriptfag is destroying both nanj and nang now...

[Anonymous No.]

>>44135200
>scriptfag
What's going on?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44135476
Trolls made some autistic guy mad so he developed a script to spam 2 of the fastest boards

[Anonymous No.]

been exploring with kuroba, any boards you can recommend?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44135516
lol, probably not trolls that made him mad though, probably jannies

[Anonymous No.]

>>44135200
What's moderation like on 5ch? Not being able to post due to being outside of Japan, I've never got to test for myself what gets through and what doesn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44144756
The 4chan style timeouts are not a thing, instead of temp bans you get IP blocked but 5ch/2channel has a notorious history of randomly cycling bans on IPs with little rhyme or reason. So to get IP blocked on purpose in 5ch you have to make a big amount of people angry several times until somehow the site mods catch wind. Which means guro spammers and trolls have a lot more freedom there and get away for days or even weeks.

It is really weird, like a portal back in time to 2008 era 4chan when spam was everywhere, & the site often went down so people hopped to different chans some of which had their own community. Even in 2023 you still have lots of refugee sites like おんｊ, 防弾ｇ, shitaraba boards, etc. And they get used really often. This is kinda weird but I wonder if 4chan's entire approach to moderation is what killed off this site's fun-ness. I want an alternate history version of 4chan where moot never got taken to court, where doxxing/spamming was never cracked down on, captcha was never implemented, and off-topic/NSFW was allowed on every board. You can barely do anything in here without the mods breathing down your neck, just check 4bans if you want an idea of what deserves a 3-day vacation nowadays

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>>44145738
>This is kinda weird but I wonder if 4chan's entire approach to moderation is what killed off this site's fun-ness
there is no doubt this is what ruined 4chan

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>>44145738
What killed 4chan was its users, the more time passes the more we reach a new low of low quality posters, and its all the fault of phones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44054099
By the standards of what you think anon is, this is a kuso post.

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>>44145738
4chan would be unusable with the level of current bots and old-style moderation. What made really old 4chan good was ruthlessly cracking down on bad posting etiquette and having a tight-knit community.

Truly laissez-faire moderation is only "fun" for malicious actors who don't want to face consequences.

[Anonymous No.]

One thing 5ch and other Japanese sites do right is to IP ban the rest of the world. It makes it harder for foreign entities to wage info war on them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44146762
this is true about the entire internet, I miss the good old days when the average intelligence on the internet was about 30 points higher

[Anonymous No.]

>>44148391
wish they didn't use Twitter or instagram either

[Anonymous No.]

>>44148255
>What made really old 4chan good was ruthlessly cracking down on bad posting etiquette and having a tight-knit community.
We are not talking about what made it good though, but what made it fun. 5ch is filled with tards and there is no posting etiquette, but it's still fun. Anyway I digress

[Anonymous No.]

>>44148255
Truer words, etc.
I MISS the nazi moderation of yesterdecade. It kept out absolute shit-tier people and the site was still loads of fun.
Needless sagebombs and other undesirables got shitslapped the fuck out of here.
But then moot had his little pubescent shitfit and kicked out one of the few mods that actively hunted down dumb gaiafags, weebs and raid kiddies and told them to fuck off back to wherever they came from.
"No", that's not for little mooytkins. Nope, no sir, he wants the drama, he wants the hassle, he wants to be welcoming to dumb FYAD fucks and shitty forum children stinking of the place.
Snacks is a cunt now, but I still would rather have current-Snacks over anyone here. Just clone the fucker. He can DJ and mod. Problem solved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44153046
overmoderation is never a good thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>44153059
I dunno man. I had way more fond memories of 2004 than I do now.
And that's not romanticization of the past. There was a lot of shit. But it was a lot of fun shit too because most of the userbase of this site were generally intelligent and tech literate.
Now there's just a lot of shit and very little fun shit, with a site now filled with iPhone and Android users.
That's arguably a numbers thing though. There's way too many people versus mods / jannies. Way too many. The tools are also shitty, based on most of the leaks we've had over the years.
It's funny how, over the years, there's been loads of requests to ban phoneposting. Won't happen. If any group of people were to be banned, it would actually be desktop users. because they ARE more tech literate and can block the ads! Most people browse via the mobile site despite the apps.

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>>44153310
overmoderation is what we have now, 2004 was way more free and way more of a wild west attitude, I agree with you things were way better back then (and even better in the 90s)

[Anonymous No.]

>>44135516
what boards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44156675
>what boards?

>>44018829
https://nova.5ch.net/livegalileo/
https://eagle.5ch.net/livejupiter/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44157609
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>44157609
Is anyone else seeing this?
nova.5ch.net won't send a response to an IP in Los Angeles, but if I use my proxy in Japan, I get content back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44165659
via Japanese proxy
https://nova.5ch.net/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44165659
>>44165669
itest.5ch.net/subback/livegalileo seems to be working
for some reason it only seems to affect the desktop version of the site? sasuga JIM

[Anonymous No.]

>>44166376
They do this dumb bs all the time

[Anonymous No.]

this whole thread is a good read, some real quality posters contributing

[Anonymous No.]

>>44153310
>>44153352
One thing to keep in mind is that moderation is not necessarily curation, but the two are often conflated.
When people want a open space independent of (a certain) quality, moderation sets the level ground from which a subset of discussion can occurs.
When people want a good space of a certain quality, curation promotes the discussion of that quality from the ground level.

4chan these days seems to have varied moderation per board and virtually no curation (though plenty bogeymanned), while in the past it would actively discriminate the quality of discussion to the point of curation, depending on the time and board. /b/ was so exceptional for it's lack of that precedence, really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44170421
I've done some mod work before (not here). What you quickly realize is banning people/deleting posts does close to nothing. When a community is good, it's not because the mods are doing their job -- it's because bad users just don't go to that community. Good communities are self-sustaining, a couple bad eggs show up now and then & it's very easy to get rid of them. But say you have a place like /v/, how on earth would you even curate that? This is one of those things that can't possibly scale up.

4chan moderation barely effects the quality of a board, for better or worse. Obviously mods themselves can do a lot to change the quality of the site, like changing rules, giving us new features, opening up new boards, removing ads, etc. But deleting and banning people does almost nothing. People who have never modded before would be surprised at how little it changes things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44003765
japaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

[Anonymous No.]

>>44175715
I wanted to see how slow the download was, but to my pleasant surprise, the linux appimage was downloaded quickly. Now, I can read 4chan and 5ch from the same app. That's kinda cool.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44175176
overmoderation ruins a board though, for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>44176194
does it also work for Kohlchan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44176194
what's the graph on the scrollbar supposed to mean? Chmate has it too

[Anonymous No.]

has anyone tried JaneXeno?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44176995
Yes. I'd even say the only rules that truly matter are rules 1 and 10 (no illegal stuff and no spamming). You could remove all the other rules and the site would be 90% the same, maybe even better. There's been only a few times where I was glad mods were around, but way more times where I was angry mods deleted a perfectly good thread just because it was "off topic". Meanwhile 5ch has no topicality rules and it works great.

And if you give rulesfags everything they ask for, you get a site like Futaba. A boring, dying site where people barely even make jokes or have a sense of humor, and no one writes dissenting opinions because they'll get DEL spammed until their post is gone.

You wanna hear my solution for 4chan? Split boards like /v/ or /tv/ into two, and you govern one of them like 5ch, and the other like Futaba. All jannies will be moved to the Futaba-style version with stricter moderation than usual, while the 5ch versions will have no rules except global rules 1 and 10 (and maybe the doxxing rule, can't remember if it's required). Most people will use the 5ch-style version, while everyone who complains about board quality will move to the much more moderated futaba-style one. You give both sides what they want, both sides are happy.

People will say 4chan already tried this with red/blue boards. But the entire idea of that is retarded. When a guy makes a shitpost thread on /tv/, it's because he wants to discuss it with /tv/ users -- that's why he makes it there. I'm pretty much certain this would fix 4chan's moderation problems in one fell swoop, but of course I'm some rando, so who cares.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44177112
It seems to show where in the thread images are, but there might be more to it than that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44177018
>does it also work for Kohlchan?
No.
>.... は解析できませんでした

[Anonymous No.]

>>44177794
that's a shame, that is a great board

[Anonymous No.]

>>44177382
what happened?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43996006

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>>43996006
Musk is doing a lot of good things desu

[Anonymous No.]

any other boards that have a similar board like /gif/ here?preferably more Japanese content?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44177382
>>You wanna hear my solution for 4chan? Split boards like /v/ or /tv/ into two, and you govern one of them like 5ch, and the other like Futaba. All jannies will be moved to the Futaba-style version with stricter moderation than usual, while the 5ch versions will have no rules except global rules 1 and 10 (and maybe the doxxing rule, can't remember if it's required). Most people will use the 5ch-style version, while everyone who complains about board quality will move to the much more moderated futaba-style one. You give both sides what they want, both sides are happy.
The /v/ splits introduced a few years ago seem to serve that in an alternate way. And it does fuck-all to the dude looking to shitpost on /v/, for better or worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44188459
All the good stuff is posted on nip twitter now, you gotta follow them
But futaba does have gif/mp4 threads on may a lot, might even find some accounts to follow there

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001352
>The web has consolidated to such an insane degree that each of the 10 or so sites people regularly use now has a monopoly over its domain
The founders of Google accidentally turned the internet into a monopoly of 10 or so websites that everyone uses. Had they went with a different algorithm for their search engine then maybe the internet would look like a very different place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44188874
True. Great for people who like RPGs, but you can't just split /v/ into a million more boards

4chan wants to cater both to shitposters and serious-discussion-havers, but the shitposters make serious discussion very hard to maintain, while the rule-heavy moderation also makes shitposting not as fun as it should be. So you end up with a bland compromise where neither side is really satisfied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44189031
>4chan wants to cater both to shitposters and serious-discussion-havers, but the shitposters make serious discussion very hard to maintain, while the rule-heavy moderation also makes shitposting not as fun as it should be. So you end up with a bland compromise where neither side is really satisfied.
In practice this leads to islands of discussion on boards, which can coalesce into a general board (or just general) culture. Nothing of permanence or long-term consistency, but worthwhile in the moment.
The problem is trying to find these islands as someone who is not already in that context. Being a true /jp/sie wouldn't give you insight to some great series discussion on /co/, for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993772
Don't care, all the threads I use moved to either jbbs or jpnkn

[Anonymous No.]

>>44189028
sadly google is still adding to that, I remember 20 years ago you could google any topic and lots of random small forums and blogs would pop up in your search, now google search just gives you garbage and google never supports small forums anymore, I hate google for this

[Anonymous No.]

>>44191251
Similar thing happened to youtube
Remember when you could go down a youtube rabbit hole of progressively lesser known videos? Now it's just the same handful of vids everyone else is watching, but it randomly suggests a video with 2 views now to compensate

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>>44191457
>but it randomly suggests a video with 2 views now to compensate
I've had a fairly-informed acquaintance about those "weird no-view" videos from people I've known about that without prompting while they were browsing - they WANT to be hooked in with what's been popularized over what hasn't.
Unfortunate, but hard to say they're "wrong" when they are clearly looking for something I'm not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44191851
I read your post 3 times and I still can't quite figure out what you are saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>44192632
Forgot a verb:
I've had a fairly-informed acquaintance *complain* about
Basically they got a niche video, noticed, and complained about it as if it were a fluke to be ignored.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44192770
Kinda makes sense when most of them are just crap
From my memory old youtube used to have clusters of related videos and they would recommend based on that instead of how many views. So if you watched a video with 100K views you would get a bunch of vids on the same topic that are like 20 or 30K views, then click on those and you see new recs with like 5K views, etc.
Maybe I remember wrong though

[Anonymous No.]

>>44197304
I notice how youtube is really making it hard for new producers to actually get a chance at views, I see a lot of quality channels with lots of quality production videos and every one has less than 125 views

[Anonymous No.]

>>44198824
If you follow the YouTube meta and have good thumbnails that stuff does tend to get picked up by the audience in the end.

The problem is that smaller, niche creators are kinda getting choked out because the system is not as good at finding their audience. Like if you make a 20-30 minute video essay about a game or show, the algorithm is great at promoting this shit which is why these videos are so popular. But if you make animations or music or blogposts, YT is much worse at promoting these so they never get popular.

But yeah if they're doing the video essay thing with a good thumbnail, they'll get big eventually

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>>44199226
You know as much as people are shitting on the format, once you find a few people who do OC or at least original research you've got the kind of documentary content I would've dreamed about as a kid.
Though more than anything they actually got me back into reading - since again, those who take it seriously do original reading and list their citations.
...and then you have lazy LLM-generated or manually generated linguistic vomit around a topic with little care given to presentation beyond a template. I just ignore them, but I imagine it's pretty easy to get pulled into those by accident and feel basically scammed out of your time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44199758
Yeah I can't complain because what we're getting now on youtube is just straight up better than TV was for the vast majority of its history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44188459
They've quarantined all their adult boards under another domain. I think you need a Japanese IP to read and post.
http://bbspink.com/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44202789
Neat

[Anonymous No.]

>>44166564
Is there any place we can talk to the devs to ask them to fix this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44175176
I've been moderating and tard wrangling in big communities in the past, can confirm. Nothing beats a tightly neat community that's focused on one task. If there's nothing to do and no goals to achieve, it starts degrading real fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44208573
>Nothing beats a tightly neat community that's focused on one task.
I concur. This is key.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44208591
wish more forums on the net existed like this instead of lame reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>44202789
why do boards like that have such a lame way to show photos? it feels like work even trying to read a single thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>44213328
The terrible state of their web site led to the creation of a lot of reader apps over the years, and my guess is that most of the hard core users interact with the site through those instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44218593
I wish this were the case on iphone, I can't seem to find any that work well for viewing, seeing pics, and posting

[Anonymous No.]

>>44208356
they would ignore I'm sure

[Anonymous No.]

any non-english non-japanese language imageboards that are super active you might recommend? I'm interested in getting exposure to some other cultures that are maybe not so politically correct and crazy as the western ones

[Anonymous No.]

>>44228296
Is Finnish OK? Their imageboard software is nice.
https://ylilauta.org/

[Anonymous No.]

Does 5ch have anything like /biz/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44231177
Most of those guys are on kenmo I believe
https://ikioi.jp/board/poverty

[Anonymous No.]

This thread came in very handy to me while 4chan was down, thanks for posting good info

[Anonymous No.]

why do I keep getting errors when I try to load dvach with kuroba... "if a browser check gets stuck..."

I can't read the rest of the message of what to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>44229559
Awesome

[Anonymous No.]

>>44237332
is it impossible to use dvach with a vpn on mobile?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44245343
I'm using mullvad on my phone

[Anonymous No.]

>>44229559
>Their imageboard software is nice.
>basically requires an account to post due to cookie fuckery
>unironic gold accounts
>literal reddit badges

[Anonymous No.]

>>44247962
They didn't use to have any of that.
In my defense, I hadn't visited that place in over a year.
It changed a lot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>43996006
He came up under Barry Soetoro so I never trusted him.ar4xpd

[Anonymous No.]

>>44020260
I found another board where non-Japanese are allowed to post.
https://agree.5ch.net/img8/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44247962
Don't forget upvotes. Then again, I forget whether Futaba or Ylilauta came up with them first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250579
upvoting and downvoting isn’t good for mental health

[Anonymous No.]

>>44250571
are the boards on 5ch that are Japanese only good to go with vpn?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255071
On bbspink.com where they have all their adult content, I was able to read and post with a VPN.
However, they employ VPN detection on most of their other boards, so you may be able to read, but you will not be allowed to post.

[Anonymous No.]

bump to survive the spammer

[Anonymous No.]

>>44256240
and again

[Anonymous No.]

>>44020540
I put my userscripts in a git repo.
https://git.vern.cc/gg/5ch-userscripts

[Anonymous No.]

>>44261317
cool, thanks for that

[Anonymous No.]

what board would be just as busy as 4chan? any?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44034846
cool

[Anonymous No.]

>>44255134
How do they detect vpns?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44265127
The point is that you can make a thread and have discussions in it without having to bump it all the fucking time like a schizo because if you don't post in it for 3 minutes it gets purged.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44267683
Indeed, but to answer his question the closest would probably be the NanJ and the news4vip boards.
Jannies (the few they have) do sometimes lock threads there, but that's a rarity. It's usually hitting the 1000 post limit that ends threads, so it's not uncommon to see barely active threads from like... 2014 still get new posts from time to time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44267451
A lot of commercial VPNs use big data centers, and there are people who maintain lists of what IP ranges are allocated to those big data centers. That's probably combined with some investigative work by companies who sell VPN detection as a service. Here's one example of such a company.
https://vpnapi.io/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44269113
well that sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>44265127
Visit while an NPB baseball game is live. They fill up multiple thousand post generals per game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44267703
Shitposters discover threads that are 20+ years old and spam them to death fairly often

[Anonymous No.]

>>44189028
accidentally? is that what their PR says?
>>44269113
do people actually trust VPNs?
I always figured only the shadiest people would use them
thus there must be a crazy amount of money to be made from storing the activity of its users

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001352
There are already laws in place to fix stuff like this.
The only problem is that people don't realize they apply. Ironically the more these companies push their agenda that "information is property" the more they're just making the case for those laws to come crashing down on them.
Not just monopoly laws, but also stuff like "public forums" which those sites clearly have become.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44272254
stick with the trustable ones like proton

[Anonymous No.]

>>44274381
>proton
What makes them trustable?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43997346
NO ITS DYING AND THREADS WILL REPLACE IT!!
*Subs to blue and hides checkmark*

[Anonymous No.]

>>44277099
EU privacy laws and audits, mullvad is good too I think

[Anonymous No.]

>>44277123
I didn't know you could hide checkmark

[Anonymous No.]

>>44272367
would be nice if a more grassroots feel could come back, where a dedicated otaku could make a simple site and get traffic and not be a spammer just trying to scam money

[Anonymous No.]

need more boards to follow

[Anonymous No.]

>>44285171
>need more boards to follow
Board discovery is a pain in the ass, isn't it. Are you in to dramas? They have general threads for ongoing dramas here:
https://lavender.5ch.net/tvd/

[Anonymous No.]

What are some "western" Japanese imageboards? I know /librejp/ and heyuris /jp/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44252886
IMHO it's actually a good system as long as you actually put a name to it and there are consequences. Otherwise it is just expressing a community's preference for something as an aggregate, which on a site dedicated to content aggregation creates a powerful positive feedback loop.
If you don't go to communities where people feel obligated to lie, bullshit, or you know - just be an unproductive, useless bother to others - voting is a great way to explore and appreciate the differences in taste in yourself versus the more normalized masses, and perhaps glean something from that you can use to improve your own self.
So with that in mind, anons on 4chan having an opinion on upvotes/downvotes is like listening to a cannibal make valid arguments on the folly of vegetarians.
I actually don't use any voting sites for content/posting, but I do make boring paragraphed posts in email-style on imageboards that people cannot believe has fuck-all to do with reddit or digg or whatever. If you think I need to "go back" I guess it's going back to some PHPBB forum in the early 00s.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44283797
You can still do that, just look at imageboard directories and you can find plenty still kickin' .
It's just an actual chore where thanklessness is normalized - if you're not doing it for yourself you'll probably get bored fast.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44287012
Well, at least to my knowledge the upvotes on Futaba and Ylilauta actually do nothing with regards to content aggregation. It's just a glorified "this" counter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44287104
>It's just a glorified "this" counter.
this

[Anonymous No.]

>>44287104
I’m still shell shocked from previous addictions to Reddit in the past.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44287027
I didn't know about imageboard directories, will look into it, thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>44261317
Are you using PC only?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44292923
I've only tested these scripts in ViolentMonkey and various Chromium-derivative browsers for desktop Linux.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44293714
I guess I should fire up Linux on my desktop again, I gave up on it while I was in school last term because I didn't have time to dick around when some of the software I needed in my courses only ran properly in windows

[Anonymous No.]

>>44295431
It should work on Windows too. The OS isn't really relevant here. If you're using ViolentMonkey on either Chromium or Firefox, it should work. I forgot I tested it on Firefox too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44297613
I'll give it a try

[Anonymous No.]

>>43997498
would be nice to integrate some kind of on-the-fly translator

[Anonymous No.]

>>44001393
You know exactly what the answer is but you don't want to hear it because you'd lash out out of hopelessness

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>44311658
spell it out for us confused people please

[Anonymous No.]

Lots of good info

[Anonymous No.]

>>44314860
Gimme a J!

[Anonymous No.]

>>44317745
Now I’m even more confused

[Anonymous No.]

>>44317745
>Gimme a J!

[Anonymous No.]

anyone else here follow schizolab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44324027
he hangs out on /x/ and /wsg/

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993772
That's ok, 2ch is better anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44332573
It looks like a ghost town over there. Are there any boards that managed to stay alive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44324027
>schizolab
What's he known for?

[Anonymous No.]

>>43993772
>virgin API user
vs
>CHAD SCRAPPER

[Anonymous No.]

>>44335774
He has a tiktok that he posts stuff about that TempleOS programmer guy and also stuff about 4chan and he seems to be a neet

[Anonymous No.]

>>44336954
If you're just reading, you don't even have to scrape. They have data files for threads in predictable locations.

See:
>>44086333

[Anonymous No.]

>>44086333
>https://fate.5ch.net/idol/dat/1688118101.dat
This file isn't there anymore. Maybe it gets moved after the thread hits 1000 posts.

Here is a dat file for a currently active thread:
https://fate.5ch.net/idol/dat/1688118101.dat

Corresponding thread:
https://fate.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/idol/1688707951/

[Anonymous No.]

>>44335774
https://t.me/s/schizolab_armory

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>44340009
He seems like a good guy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44347161
Yeah, he seems really cool, I like his tiktok videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>44348198
I wish people would stop bugging him by calling him a girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44347161
https://www.tiktok.com/@schizolab/video/7265863285327580458
I also like /x/ and /g/. I've probably interacted with him without knowing it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44348838
I'm curious what orange boards lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>44348838
What site is that screenshot from?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44354364
tiktok.
click on the link I provided.
search for the string "Dez" on the page.
You'll find it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44354487
Nice! Are you Dez?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44354517
I'm not. That person just asked a question I was curious about, so I took a screenshot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44324027
>>44331216
>>44335774
>>44339190
>>44340009
>>44347161
>>44348198
>>44348430
>>44348838
>>44353640
>>44354364
>>44354487
>>44354517
>>44354552
What does this have to do with 5ch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44354668
I think the conversation is about chans in general

[Anonymous No.]

>>44339444
Where are the dat files for older threads that hit the post limit on 5ch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44355212
like an archive?

[Anonymous No.]

https://github.com/shinosaki/2ch-api-worker

[Anonymous No.]

>>44358667
thanks, looking at that now, is there any issues with language in figuring it all out?

[Anonymous No.]

>>44358667
This is useful. It can get around 5ch's region blocking.

From Los Angeles, I can't hit:
https://nova.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/livegalileo/1692366570
However, I *can* see:
https://2ch.lain.im/test/read.cgi/livegalileo/1692366570
...and get a response formatted as a DAT file.

[Anonymous No.]

>>44363645
If you want to deploy it yourself, the little bits of English in the README are enough to get it up and running. He has a deployment on 2ch.lain.im, but if I were to want to read a lot of 5ch content, I'd deploy it myself on my own Cloudflare Workers account.
https://workers.cloudflare.com/
Their free tier is plenty for casual reading with 100k free requests per day.

>>44339444
>https://fate.5ch.net/idol/dat/1688118101.dat
https://2ch.lain.im/idol/dat/1688118101.dat
Even though the DAT is missing from 5ch, 2ch.lain.im can reconstruct it.

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>>44363884
wow, super cool info, thanks for sharing your knowledge

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>>43997346
this statement is aging like milk on August though

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>>44365225
Twitter is doing fine, busier than ever, one of the last places to get news on the social media internet in Canada since most of the other sites have pulled all news in Canada due to Trudeau's bill that passed

I go on Twitter (X) many times a day

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>>44353640
probably /gif/ and does /b/ count as "orange"?

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>>44373696
>does /b/ count as "orange"?
yes

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I notice Kohlchan is a relatively active board, anyone have any other suggestions that they enjoy visiting multiple times per day?

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>>44148391
is it possible to whitelist an entire country just by IP?

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>>43993803
based hiroshimoot fucking over phonefag underageb&s

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>>44386272
I think so.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_IPv4_address_allocation
https://www.iana.org/numbers

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>>44388315
interesting

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bumpage

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someone on Lainchan was linking to a post that said that due to continuing server issues that Kohlchan was shutting down, but so far it still seems to be working fine, I hope it is just a false alarm and they got their server issues worked out

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>>44002072
>why are none of the 3rd party apps able to do posting at all?
Captcha solving on 4chan is apparently a bitch, but I don't know all the details. With that said, the latest JKCS does a very good job. It's theoretically possible to slay this dragon.
https://git.coom%2etech/araragi/JKCS

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>>44358667
Is it possible to deploy this to something other than CloudFlare Workers?

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>>44404095
the biggest problem with 4chan is that vpn's are blocked, other imageboards are better because of this

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make new when hits page 10

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>>44405292
We started out talking about JaneStyle dropping 5ch support, but the conversation took a lot of interesting tangents since then. I feel like the discussion should remain mostly 5ch-related but allow discussion of other anonymous imageboards and textboards. Back in the day, there used to be a lot of little low traffic imageboards on the Japanese side of the internet. There might still be some little gems that survived into the social media era. Oldfags may remember.

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no reason; just because.

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>>44404616
I would call it a problem if 4chan weren't a "main" imageboard. For smaller boards VPN use doesn't really change anything but in our case not banning them would cause nothing but problems. Not to say shitposters can't get past it, they can, but putting a hurdle down is way better than not.

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>>44405366
Pretty much all of them are dead due to one of the following: the sites being taken down, lack of maintenance of the CGI scripts, or straight up abandonment in favor of SNS sites.
It's actually really sad what the centralization of the net has done to internet comms and the process of forming communities. All we can do now is examine what little is left through IA's web archives and preserved BBS logs.

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>>44348198
https://www.tiktok.com/@schizolab/video/7247522128348646702

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4chan itself sometimes feels like an unexplored wilderness. There are a few boards I like, and there are many boards I've barely ever visited if at all.
For example, I didn't know >>>/gd/ existed.
>>>/gd/443338

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>>44405366
I like this thread, it is a very useful discussion of 5ch and other boards, I learned a lot, thanks

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>>44405370
higher quality

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>>44409603
cute

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I'd start new but I don't have a good 5ch logo

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>>44410232
How about this one?
https://5ch.net/images/5ch_mascot_normal.png

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good

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new
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