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4394973 No.4394973 [Reply] [Original]

Fuck this stupid shitty hypocrite trashhole of a country.
Americans don't know what freedom is.

>> No.4394985

Illegal in Iowa?

Elaborate.

>> No.4394981

>implying you do

sage, reported

>> No.4395002 [DELETED] 
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4395002

Tell us which corn field you live in so we can call the sheriff and get a dangerous sex offender like you behind bars.

>> No.4394998

>>4394985

Probably something to do with obscenity laws or some such nonsense.

>> No.4395005

>implying Iowa can overturn the decision of the United States Supreme Court

>> No.4394996

>>4394985
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/02/obscene-us-manga-collector-jailed-6-months

>> No.4395012

Perhaps someone in /new/ will give a shit. I don't I reported it for offtopic.

>> No.4395043

I'll see you in court asshole. You can lecture the judge about what is "freedom" and what is not all you want there.

>> No.4395058

>>4394985
retarded "4chan" (racist/anti-US) troll topic #6383218453
Obvious retort would be that the brits, germans, ausfail, most/all of the arab world, etc. etc. etc. is MUCH worse about having does-nothing-and-protects-nobody retarded sex laws.

The obvious retort, though, still "counts as" a reply, because the OP thinks he's playing moot/whoever-the-fuck-other-shitty-opportunist's ForumWarz game.

>> No.4395063

>>4395005

>implying a state can't overturn a Supreme Court ruling, either by presenting a new argument against the previous ruling or by the Supreme Court not doing anything to counteract the state's actions.

>> No.4395064

>>4395002
...and that's porn on a blue board, jonesey.

>> No.4395070

>>4395063
>implying that convincing the Supreme Court to change their ruling is the same as overturning it

> or by the Supreme Court not doing anything to counteract the state's actions.
>implying that the supreme court has the power to do ANYTHING of its own accord and that it is not the responsibility of the defendant to appeal their case

>> No.4395084

>>4395070

Pretty much, yeah.

>> No.4395091

This is not news. The United States have been split on animated child pornography for about 10 years now. The executive and legislative branch agree that loli is illegal, the Judicial has ruled jailing a man for loli is unconstitutional.

OLD.

>> No.4396728

And this is why I like living in a truly free country.

>> No.4396749

>>4396728
where all you do is sit at a computer

how sweet it is

>> No.4396762

>>4396749
And get paid for it.

I love socialism.

>> No.4396764

Americunts just got told.

>> No.4396765

Figured I'd just throw this out there:
No one cares about Iowa.

>> No.4396785

>>4396762
socialism does not work that way
because if it did
i, too, would be paid for just sitting in front of the computer

>> No.4396789
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4396789

ITT morons who don't know law or even have a sense of reading comprehension. The dude was charged for obscenity, which can be and is applied to the whole spectrum of pornography in the rare instance that somebody somewhere is butthurt about some picture of something. The Supreme Court has ruled in quite explicit language that lolicon is protected under the First Amendment. It's just that content deemed obscene enjoys no such status. To say that lolicon is illegal because one man was charged with obscenity for it would be to say that consensual heterosexual pornography depicting two adults is illegal as well, since the same charges have been filed in rare instances. More to the point: he pleaded guilty without deliberating the matter in court, so it's not even like there is a judicial precedent here that would suggest lolicon should be deemed obscene.

Is the legal system still bullshit? Yeah. Does this country have a warped sense of sexuality? Yep. But lolicon isn't illegal anywhere by a long shot.

>> No.4396792

I'm really worried about going through customs now. Eventually I figured I should return to the US, but I'm thinking more and more it's a bad idea.

>> No.4396794

>>4396785
And still, I'm getting paid for looking at loli all day and you're not.

Enjoy your Land Of The Free!

>> No.4396802

>>4396789
It's pretty easy for them to define anything lolicon as obscene in the future, though.

>> No.4396801

>>4396789
>content deemed obscene
What the fuck does that mean?

>> No.4396799

>>4396792
I brought home a bunch of crap from Akihabara (including loli) last Christmas. Nobody cares. They didn't even open my bags.

>> No.4396805

ITT: People who don't have a clue of what the fuck socialism might be about.

>> No.4396806

>>4396801
Consensual heterosexual intercourse in the missionary position with the lights out for the purpose of procreation during the sanctity of marriage.

>> No.4396810

>>4396805
>Bawwww they can just stay at home all day and get government support that's not what socialism is about right guys?? Capitalism is still better, isn't it guys? Huh, guys?!?

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>>4396802
No it's not. One prosecutor charged one man for it, and he plead guilty before the matter was even argued in court. There wasn't even a judge's ruling. In other words, there's no legal precedent. It's troublesome to say the least, but it's not a sign of any major legal shift. Stuff like this happens in bumfuck counties from time to time. There's also a Florida case against some hardcore pornographer that recently ended too.

>>4396801
Good question. It's more or less a weasel term to label offensive material not protected under the First Amendment, even though the whole reason it exists is to protect things that need protecting in the first place. Luckily, however, it's a real hassle to deem something obscene, and it's done on a very specific and individual basis, meaning that bizarre and revolting media is still as widespread as ever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obscenity#United_States_obscenity_law

>> No.4396822

That one guy got into jail because of ordering "obscene" manga through mail and NOT because it was cp. lolicon is legal

>> No.4396833

>>4396789

You have to understand how and why he was charged. He was charged specifically for transmitting obscene material through federal post, ashcroft vs free speech coalition protected the artistic merit of pornography and made it hard for obscenity charges to be laid as broadly as feds would like them to be.

This sort of case is a classic example of how obscenity charges are still used today, when a prosecutor wants to charge someone with anything they will dig up obscure old laws like this that were never intended to be used this way. Usually this only happens to producers that the feds want out of business for other reasons (such as Max Hardcore) and it's curious that it was applied to a simple collector because he offended a postal inspector. Perhaps they really did consider it child porn, but couldn't charge him as such and applied their usual tactics.

If there is a lesson to be learned from this or an alarm to be raised it is to be careful what you send through the post. It seems like it's possible to offend people who you do not want to offend.

>> No.4396846

>>4396820

>There's also a Florida case against some hardcore pornographer that recently ended too.

Yes that would be poor old Max, and he is a really great example of this. The feds got him by buying some of his titles, having them mailed to a community where it would be "obscene to the community standards" and have him charged in that county's court. It's plain fucking vanilla entrapment.

The feds also tried to claim some of his profits too but that was overturned in the appeal.

>> No.4396852

I'm feeling very upset about this.

>> No.4397171

Oh no, it can be declared illegal if, under very specific circumstances, someone decides it's obscene! The US must be such a police state!
Oh, wait, the UK, Australia, and half of Europe have laws that make this specifically illegal all the time (not just if mailed) and there's no legal defence for it.

>> No.4397334

>>4397171
It's not illegal in my European country. Stop defending your shithole.

>> No.4397340

>>4397334
I'm English, I'm not defending shit. I'm pointing out how whiny Americunts are over the slightest hint of danger to their "freedom".

>> No.4397354

>>4397340
The only sad thing is they believe they are the most free country on Earth when they have laws that are as bad as those in the countries they are invading to spread their "freedom".

>> No.4397380

>>4397354

Our country does not permit "she was askin' for it" as a rape charge defense. Your country is a shithole.

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4397395

The only answer

>> No.4397431

>>4397354

This. For every herp derp police state yurop event americans jump up at there's at least one example of it happening somewhere in the states already.

>> No.4397439

That's nice, /jp/. Really nice.

>> No.4397451

This thread might as well be from two years ago.

>> No.4397484

>>4397354

Local morality laws based on "community standards" are an odd thing aren't they?

>> No.4397538

>>4397380
>seeing rape as a serious criminal offense
Oh, Americans... Sex sure is horrible, right?

>> No.4399094

Child porn SHOULD be illegal, in all its forms. It's fucking CHILD PORN.

We're not talking about some kid drawing a gun, we're talking about a 40 year old fuck that is sexually attracted to children. He was bold enough to fucking order this shit when he knew damn well this shit isn't kosher in this country. How soon till he starts molesting kids, if he hasn't already?

The fact that it's anime doesn't change the fact that it's still child porn, with the sole purpose of indulging in someone's dangerous mental illness whose victims are fucked up for life, assuming they survive at all.

You can't lump this with other types of disturbing media. Only pedophiles collect this shit. You can own a violent movie without being a murderer. You aren't going to have child porn if you're not a pedophile.

To compare this to gays, fatness, violent media or other shit is making a strange straw man argument that is pointing down instead of up. Hey, if we allow murder, will we allow .... JAYWALKING???

Pedophilia isn't acceptable in any form. Sure, there's always a gray area between enforcement and constitutional rights, and that area is never clean, but I'm not going to cry a river over this fucker. He's where he belongs, away from society.

>> No.4399100

>>4399094
inb4 someone feeds the troll

>> No.4399383

>>4399094
Some effort went into that, but it's all wasted because you came up too strong. Subtlety, Anon.

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