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>> No.4386697
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I'd her gap.

>> No.4386724

Old one is on autosage

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I never really understood what kinds of powers she have. ok, she can move from place to place, and ok, she can remove the border between the realm of the dead and the realm of the living.
but where did 'yukari is fooling around again' came from? are her powers really that hax?

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>> No.4386843

>>4386792

Whenever there are two opposite things - left and right, night and day, good and evil, forks and knives - she can move the boundary between them so that some of the things that were on one side are now on the other. As long as she can find the appropriate border, she can do damn near anything.

Also, she can open and slip through gaps in reality.

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>>4386792

Well, it's something like this

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>>4386843
doesn't that mean that to turn one girl into dog-girl, she would have to turn all girls into dog girls? by manipulating the border between humans and dogs, i mean.

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Couldn't Kaguya beat her by waiting for a moment where she's not using her powers and manipulating it to make 'an eternity where Yukari's powers are not affecting the real world'?

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Couldn't Kaguya beat her by waiting for a moment where she's not using her powers and manipulating it to make 'an eternity where Yukari's powers are not affecting the world'?

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>>4386674

>> No.4386888

>>4386866

No, she can move the boundary a little bit, so that only one specific girl gets turned.

>> No.4386894

>>4386885

Maybe. And then maybe she could respond by moving the power between eternal and ephemeral, etc.

Pitting high-tier touhoes against each other is the sort of thing where it's impossible to predict a winner.

>> No.4386905

>>4386894

But Kaguya has essentially disabled her power.

Sure, prediction is impossible, but that doesn't stop theories.

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>>4386885
>Couldn't Kaguya beat her by waiting for a moment where she's not using her powers and manipulating it to make 'an eternity where Yukari's powers are not affecting the world'?

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Yukari_Yakumo

>> No.4386911

>>4386888
how so? that girl would have to live at the very boundry of the border. she would have to be very doglike to begin with. reimu may be a bitch, but there are a lot of girls that will turn canine before her.

>> No.4386936

>>4386909

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Kaguya_Houraisan

>No matter how much you may try to bring about change in such a world, it is futile in a world where time has essentially stopped.

Hence:
An eternity where Yukari is never using her ability --> Yukari can't do anything, including use her power to get out of it.

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>>4386674

>> No.4386944

Kaguya>Yukari
ZUN agreed, don't bother him about it

>> No.4386953

>>4386944
Reimu>All

Sorry, but the games have proven my point.

>> No.4386955

>>4386936
don't use her power != can't use it.

>> No.4386964

>>4386953
like when she lost against Tenshi, Suika, Yukari and Marisa several times?

yeah i love when people try to bring Reimu's plothax

>> No.4386967

>>4386955

An eternity where she isn't using it = she never uses it.
Whether she can or can't doesn't matter, because the fact is she isn't using it.
It's like having a loaded gun in a world with the absolute truth 'a gun will never be fired here' in place.

>> No.4386990

>>4386967
but what good is it to kaguya? she would be stuck too, doing nothing,, or watching the same 30 secs of umineko or reading the thread on4chan over and over again. only the thread won't get new posts. she won't be able to hit her, because that requires change, thus disablling her power long enough to hit her.

there is a differance betwwen 'can't do something' and 'isn't doing something'. if you forget that, kaguya powers have no effect whatsoever.

>> No.4386996 [DELETED] 

>>4386885
According to ZUN, Mokou has bested Kaguya in a few encounters. If she cant manage to beat a human with matches, how do you think she'll be able to defeat a youkai whose powers are on par with the gods of Gensokyo? It's like saying the Joker can defeat Superman even though he struggles to defeat a nutcase in a Halloween costume. wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Come on guys, that was funny.

And according to ZUN, Eirin is much stronger than Kaguya but she limits her powerlevel in respect to Kaguya. As far as Lunarians go, Kaguya is lower tier. The Watatsuki sisters are the reason why she fled for her life. The punishment they had in plan for her was probably an eternity of deaths. Eirin or Shiki on the other hand might be stronger than Yukari.

The thing that makes Yukari so special is that she's the only youkai that has a canon elaboration of her hax. I quote, "ability to manipulate boundaries is one of the strongest abilities youkai are known to possess." Apparently, it's a power that's on par with the gods of Gensokyo. Any speculation about the powers of any other Touhou's hax is not canon; therefore, it's just speculation (a.k.a fanfiction).

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>>4386885
According to ZUN, Mokou has bested Kaguya in a few encounters. If she cant manage to beat a human with matches, how do you think she'll be able to defeat a youkai whose powers are on par with the gods of Gensokyo? It's like saying the Joker can defeat Superman even though he struggles to defeat a nutcase in a Halloween costume. wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Come on guys, that was funny.

And according to ZUN, Eirin is much stronger than Kaguya but she limits her powerlevel in respect to Kaguya. As far as Lunarians go, Kaguya is lower tier. The Watatsuki sisters are the reason why she fled for her life. The punishment they had in plan for her was probably an eternity of deaths. Eirin or Shiki on the other hand might be stronger than Yukari.

The thing that makes Yukari so special is that she's the only youkai that has a canon elaboration of her hax. I quote, "ability to manipulate boundaries is one of the strongest abilities youkai are known to possess." Apparently, it's a power that's on par with the gods of Gensokyo. Any speculation about the powers of any other Touhou's hax is not canon; therefore, it's just speculation (a.k.a fanfiction).

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seen that yestarday. i think it is relevant enough for this thread.

>> No.4387021

>>4386990

Perfect memento describes how she can selectively inhibit change, like how she hid Eientei in an eternity until she reversed her powers. Therefore she could freeze Yukari without freezing herself.

>>4387004

Fine, with the canon statement 'Kaguya is weak', you win. Maybe someone stronger with the same ability could beat Yukari.

I'm surprised everyone took it so seriously.

>> No.4387025

>>4387004
Joker has beaten Superman on more than one occasion actually.

>> No.4387027

>>4386861
i don't get the divide/multiply part

>> No.4387031

>>4387004
so you are an imbecile?
oh well
you are basically saying that water can't turn off fire

Basically Kaguya puts Eternity into any of the boundaries affecting her and her body Yukari can't do shit.

Yukari would still win by beating her up with her superhuman youkai strength but she wouldn't win because of her hax.

and Yukari is still below Yuka and Shikieiki

>> No.4387039

>>4387031

What makes Shikieki so strong, anyway?
Is it just pure powerhax like Yuka?

>> No.4387054

>>4387039
Divine authority.

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>>4386944
Suigin is just buttmad that he got his ass handed to him on multiple occasions during the Yuka v Yukari debates. I guess now that he's given up defending his flower tramp, he's trying his luck with other Touhous.

The ONLY canon Touhou whose powers are greater than or equal to Yukari's is Shiki. But even that is debatable. Dear Suigin, will you kindly buzz off for a while; I'm too sleepy to deal with you at the moment. The higher tier hax Touhous are doing battle, mere flower manipulating youkai need not apply. Isn't there a forest fire somewhere she should be worrying about?

FACT: Yukari is the strongest species of youkai. I don't care if your Touhou managed to learn the ultimate one hit kill attack combo, Yukari was born with a superior hax.

But getting back to the Lunarian. Fun fact: despite having longer lifespans, Lunarians from a genetic standpoint are identical to humans. By definition, youkai cant be killed in combat. Though it is possible for them to die of old age.

>> No.4387068

>>4387064
As someone who finds Suigin fucking annoying, you're even worse than him. Cut this power level shit out.

>> No.4387076

>>4387064
>pulling shit from ass
sure thing buddy

>> No.4387086

>>4387031
Kaguya's own home turf.

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>>4386674
All shall return to the Void

>> No.4387104

>>4387064
>my waifu is better than your waifu
Yukari is strong, but is there really any reason to call yuuka a tramp? or to take this argument into personal levels?

>> No.4387107

>>4387027
>i don't get the divide/multiply part
Let's say you shoot a giant fireball at Yukari. Using her hax, she could manipulate the boundaries of said attack by way of division and mix it up with other attacks you throw at her. (And as you know, with the help of her gap hax she could turn it against you.) Remember, if not for boundaries everything in the universe would be one giant continuous blob of matter/space/ideals.

>> No.4387111

>>4387064
you never proved yukari was stronger
all you do is say YUKARI IS STRONGEST U BUTTHURT
believe me Yuka could make Yukari her shikigami with ease

>> No.4387121

>>4387104
>>4387068
I apologize. I'm just really sleepy and Suigin made me angry with his subtle buttmaditry.

>> No.4387133

>>4387121
yeah, go to sleep
kids shouldn't stay up at this hour

>> No.4387142

Does the OP picture bother anyone else?

the hands

>> No.4387148

I never understand what the purpose of debating it is. You're not actually listening to what the other side is saying, you're simply repeating "lol ultimate magic" "lol border hax" ad nauseum until one side accuses the other side of having too much posterior soreness to continue, meaning that the side with less rectal discomfort somehow accrues a "win" by default or some other reasoning, which is inevitably unaccepted by the other side, which then causes the debate to continue at a later point when some poor, uninformed bloke makes a passing comment about who the most fearsome youkai is.

>> No.4387151

>>4387111
>shikigami
Funny you should mention shikigamis. Ran is considered one of the strongest beast youkai. Just the fact that Yukari was able to beat her with ease is a testament to Yukari's power.

>> No.4387152

>>4387133
he apologized. give him a slack, ok?
/jp/ is not a place for flamewars...

>>4387142
>hands
yukari fooling around again?

>> No.4387159

>>4387152
Templates like that are forbidden.

>> No.4387175

>>4387064
>By definition, youkai cant be killed in combat.
Orange confirmed to live in the digimon world.

>> No.4387182

Archer could totally kick yukari and kaguya's asses.

>> No.4387190

>>4387182
Accelerator can beat anyone. All of /jp/ agreed, don't bother us about it.

>> No.4387209

>>4387190
I heard Accelerator sucks a mean cock.

>> No.4387228

>>4387151
yeah she is considered the strongest beast youkai because obeying yukari for a long time her shikigami powers allowed her to become almost as strong as her
it's basically like having a pokemon

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At best all Kaguya would be able to do in a battle against Yukari is defense. What point of Yukari has the ability to travel through dimensions do you not understand. If you had even a small grasp of what a higher dimension is you wouldn't have posted this nonsense. You DON'T attack a 4th dimension being -- well, in this case a 3rd dimensional being occupying 4th or 5th dimensional space. With all seriousness, a 4th dimension being with a toothpick could best Kaguya on any given day of the week. I can just imagine Yukari peeking through the fifth dimension and watching Kaguya's past, present, future, and potential actions like/as if it was a cheap 1960s flick. In such a battle, Yukari could attack Kaguya with all of her hax, but Kaguya wouldn't be able to see, let alone lay a finger on Yukari.

Before you make a rebuttal watch this video on dimensions to its entirety. Of all the videos I've watched on this subject, this video does the best job of explaining it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDaKzQNlMFw

Now after watching that. Realize that Yukari can also manipulate the boundaries from fictional/imaginary dimensions. Seriously, it's the mother fucking flash. How do you beat this women?

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>>4387228
please forgive me, but I couldn't resist the temptetion to post this

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>>4387228
>yeah she is considered the strongest beast youkai because obeying yukari for a long time her shikigami powers allowed her to become almost as strong as her
Ran already was one of the strongest youkai when Yukari first found her. Also:

>Naturally, the one who has enslaved this strongest of the youkai beasts and uses her for various mundane tasks is the strongest youkai, Yukari Yakumo (*2).

>is the strongest youkai
Need any more *canon* truth about Yukari's superiority?

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Ran_Yakumo

Suigin's fag status:
☑ TOLD
☐ NOT TOLD

>> No.4387326

Powerlevel discussion.

Ignoring how Reimu is the main character and will beat everyone in danmaku battle.

>> No.4387332

ITT: Applying common sense to a talk about Gensokyo.

>> No.4387348

>>4387318
Are you suggesting that Akyu doesn't lie or exaggerate? Seriously?

>> No.4387357

>>4387326
>implying that danmaku battles are a true representation of youkai power and are not just a fireworks show.

>> No.4387358

>>4387326
>I'm getting my ass handed to me in this debate. Oh god, let me attempt to derail the argument by belittling it.
Reimu has the power to summon/invoke the power of the gods. Consequently, I can understand why she always manages to win.

Watatsuki no Yorihime can do everything Reimu can, except better. Plus she's a Lunarian.

>> No.4387365

>>4387358
>Watatsuki no Yorihime

Never happened.

>> No.4387372

>>4387318
do you want me to cite sources that say Suika is the strongest youkai or that Lunarians are stronger than anything from earth?
or do you want me to tell you that akyu exaggerates?
do you also want me to bring the old "Yukari admitted being weaker than Shikieiki yet Shikieiki was beaten by Yuka after going all out to kill her"?

pick your poison

>> No.4387377

>>4387318

please stop? debating who is the stronger touhou is fine. flaming posters isn't.

>> No.4387380

>>4387326
>Ignoring how Reimu is the main character and will beat everyone in danmaku battle.
she lost against Yuka (in PoFV), Tenshi, Suika, Yukari, and Marisa

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strongest touhoe can make women pregnant

>> No.4387392

Just to let you know, this thread will be saved AND referenced for future generations. I've never seen Suigin take such a thrashing before.

Ouch. Just delete your post and drop your trip identity Suigin. No one will ever remember the day you got neutered.

>> No.4387400

oh man i've never seen somebody prove Yukari was weaker than Yuka in such a beautiful way
it changed my ways to view touhou
10/10 would read again
Suigin you are now my favorite tripfag

>> No.4387401

>>4387392
are you really enjoying this? listen, this is not the place to insult people. plaese, can't you just, you know, STOP?

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>this thread

go flame yourself to death. I give up.

>> No.4387422

>>4387384
I hate this series. Reimu is too submissive and slutty in those.

>> No.4387425

>>4387380
Fucking tripfags and namaefags. Just get the fuck out, nobody cares about your damn opinion.

>> No.4387427

>>4387425
Back to /a/ please

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>>4387422
At least the baby is cute

>> No.4387450

>>4387427
Says the one starting powerlevel flame wars.

>> No.4387461

So... What's the point of the danmaku system if there is one character who is nigh unbeatable at it?

>> No.4387464

>>4387450
Sorry, Touhou has always been /jp/ related.
Hating on people for using names on the internet is /a/ /b/ or /v/ related.
Please go there if you want to get mad at tripfags.

Thanks- The administration

>> No.4387486

>>4387461
The danmaku system is just so people don't go around destroying cities while fighting

>> No.4387489

>>4387464
>Touhou has always been /jp/ related.
Who ever said it wasn't?

>Hating on people for using names on the internet is /a/ /b/ or /v/ related.
Attention whoring is also /a/, /b/, and /v/ related. Why don't you go back to whatever hole you crawled out from?

>> No.4387561

Alright, everybody is telling me to take it easy so I'll collect myself and be civil. Despite the fact that there's an overabundance of canon facts denoting Yukari's superiority. I will do without them. In the first Yukari v Yuka thread I started with a simple conjecture. Yukari is the most powerful species of youkai in the Touhouverse. And hopefully, this thread will conclude with the aforementioned statement.

Manipulation of boundaries != Manipulation of flowers.

Taking into consideration of *inherent* hax, intelligence, and physical power. Yukari is second to none when you compare the gap between their haxes. Do you or do you not agree with my conclusion. If not, how would Yuka defeat Yukari in your theoretical battle? Kaguya and Koishi Komeiji's hax, maybe. Remilia and Shiki's hax, close. But Yuka's hax? Her hax isn't even on par with Mokou or Aya's haxes.

inherent (adjective)
belonging by nature.

>> No.4387590

>>4387561
And for the clueless, here's a comparison between the two characters:

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Yukari_Yakumo

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Yuka_Kazami

>> No.4387610

>>4387489
I'm not attentionwhoring, sir. I'm just posting with a name.
Anyone who isn't retarded can use 4chan ignoring the name field.
>>4387561
Learn more about Touhou canon first.
Manipulation of flowers is not her main weapon, it's just an add-on.
Her main weapon is the ultimate magic. We don't know the fully extent of this power but so far we know it is:
Creation of Universes (Makai, Alice's Wonderland)
Creation of Youkai (Makai residents, Alice's Card Soldiers)
Huge offensive and destructive power.

Yuka could just create a universe without boundaries that damage her or create Youkai that are as strong (or stronger) than Yukari.

Yukari can put the strongest magical barrier but Yuka can easily surpass it by teleporting(power she had in LLS) behind it the same case occurs if Yukari tries to gap her far away.
Meanwhile Yuka can use god tier spells or just have other youkai she created to do the dirty work for her.
Yuka can also create multiple clones of herself (dual spark) and block magic with her parasol.
She is even well known for her physical strength so even if the fight ends up in bitchslapping Yuka would win.

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>>4387610
>ultimate magic
This again?

>> No.4387643

>>4387636
I just described what appears in the games.

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>>4387610
The only thing known about said magic, and I quote, "whatever it is, it's moe."
--ZUN

And anything else to the contrary is just fanfiction.net tier stupidity.

Also, I'm glad you agree with my statement that Yukari is the strongest species of youkai in the Touhouverse. Let me reiterate, if ZUN was to come out tomorrow and say that Cirno gained the ultimate one hit kill hax combo. Cirno is still inferior to Yukari in terms of inherited power. In that scenario Cirno is still just a weak youkai that randomly stumble upon a certain power. It's the equivalent of saying an 8 year old with a loaded gun is stronger than a full grown man.

>> No.4387710
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>Touhou power levels

>> No.4387725

>>4387701
You never played the games I guess.
You should try them they are cool. Mystic Square extra specially.
>It's the equivalent of saying an 8 year old with a loaded gun is stronger than a full grown man.
Not really.
You stumble upon a book that has written all the Aikido techniques. You learn them and you could easily kick the ass of any guy who is naturally buff.

The ultimate magic is not a power you gain, it's something you learn.
Now go play the games before you ridicule yourself some more, please.

>> No.4387763

>>4387725
>Aikido
Don't start.

>> No.4387764

>>4387725
You crack me up, really. Just admit you've been bested.

>> No.4387801

>>4387764
all i see is some guy trying to deny canon facts that happened in the games to make yuka weaker instead of admitting she is stronger than yukari

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Seeing as you guys are all being faggots, I'm bringing in mah Moon Bitches.

Power Level Thread Status: TOLD.

>> No.4387920

>>4386674
It's all fun and games until someone loses an eye.

>> No.4387939

Dammit, Suigin, you suck when you get all serious.

>> No.4387944

>>4387885

I mean seriously, sure is 'WE CAN DESTROY GENSOKYO WITH A WAVE OF OUR MOON FAN' over here.

When will you dumb asses learn that jerking off over which Touhou is more powerful then the other is pretty much pointless in a series where everyone beyond a certain level possesses innate instant death abilities. Further, we've seen several examples of characters with magic that isn't even listed in their actual powers, how does Yuyuko steel something as abstract as Spring itself? It's a huge fairy tale setting where practically anything is possible with the right story explanation. It's meant to be whimsical and dream like where key characters can do crazy things that only make sense in a child's logic, need to finish something before morning? Stop the sun from coming up.

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>>4387610
Here's the ultimate magic ZUN was most likely refering to. Ultimate as in a weak level 2 spell card performed by a novice Alice.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Mystic_Square:_Yuka%27s_Extra

>> No.4387946

>>4387939
Suigin is always serious, it's a natural result of being a master Aikidoka. I would know, I'm one too.

>> No.4387977

>>4387945
spellcards didn't exist back then
also the stage transcurs in a universe created by Alice and Yuka fights against youkai created by Alice as well in it

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Sure is PC98 is serious business around here. Mima is never coming back, Alice is a solitary magician youkai obsessing over her doll experiments, Yuka sleeps out in a field of flowers enjoying her simple existence.

The only relevance PC98 has any more is the odd sly comment from the cast, a slight nod at the origins but rarely anything of substance comes back from it.

>> No.4388130

>>4387610
>Creation of Universes (Makai, Alice's Wonderland)
Makai is a universe in the same sense that Gensokyo is a universe. And if we're going to put it that way than technically Yukari has the same powers. After all, it has been speculated (several times) that she's the creator of Gensokyo itself. Keep in mind that the ability to create new dimensions from a physicist point of view is almost synonymous with the ability to create new universes. Except in the case of Yukari, she can manipulate the boundaries between dreams, fantasies, and realities to create worlds from existing worlds that are theoretically impossible. Also, the existence of Makai in and of itself is more of a testament to Shinki's natural talents as a goddess than they are to her being a spell caster of some ultimate magic that Alice got defeated with on multiple occasions.

>Creation of Youkai (Makai residents, Alice's Card Soldiers)
>Alice's Card Soldiers
Can you say the manipulation of the boundaries between fantasy and reality?

>> No.4388145

>>4388130

Are you saying Yukari can make apple pies from scratch?

>> No.4388160

>>4388130
>And if we're going to put it that way than technically Yukari has the same powers.
Yukari sealed away already existing land to create Gensokyo
the same way people created countries or empires by conquering lands
>Can you say the manipulation of the boundaries between fantasy and reality?
what do you mean?

>> No.4388172

>>4388145
My mother could make apple pies from scratch. Yukari can make apple pies from pumpkins.

>> No.4388293

>>4388160
>Yukari sealed away already existing land to create Gensokyo
>the same way people created countries or empires by conquering lands
This comes down to what theory you believe about the birth of our universes. If the string theory is true then all Yukari would have to do to create more universes is divide a few membranes.

>what do you mean?
According to PM Yukari could make a picture in a portrait a reality simply by manipulating the borders between imagination and reality. Look at everything in front of you including your hands. Now realize that there are quadrillions of boundaries in front of you.

>> No.4388309

There's not going to be a board just for dickgirls. Stop being retarded.

>> No.4388346

>>4388293
>According to PM Yukari could make a picture in a portrait a reality simply by manipulating the borders between imagination and reality. Look at everything in front of you including your hands. Now realize that there are quadrillions of boundaries in front of you.
yeah i know that, so?
she will make the mona lisa real or something?

>> No.4388376

>Touhou powerlevel faggotry
sage

>> No.4388447

http://images.4chan.org/d/src/1266263138926.png

>> No.4388465

>>4388376
<- /a/ is that way

>> No.4388486
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4388486

>>4388346
Well, I'm going to sleep. Unlike you I actually managed to accomplish something with my time. Don't think of this as a retreat. You didn't win. You got lucky.

Despite being 9 hours past my bedtime I still managed to finish a c++ app. We'll finish our eternal conflict some other day. Just the fact that you were brave enough to mess with a sleeping dragon makes me have some respect for you. Don't take this the wrong way. It's not like I'm beginning to like you or anything you idiot.

>> No.4388501

>>4388486
i will beat your nerd ass any day

>> No.4388564
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4388564

>>4388501

>nerd
>/jp/

>> No.4388565

>>4388486
>It's not like I'm beginning to like you or anything
tsundere everywhere.
joking aside, please don't let a next time come?

you too suigin, mature people ignore flaming attampts.

>> No.4388579

>>4388565
stop trying to be Anonymous2007

>> No.4388609

>>4388579
who?

>> No.4388683
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4388683

>>4388501

Wanna know why Chen is lamenting in that picture? It's because she knows she's not going to be on top during the mating process. She knows she's about to get fucked!

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4388697

>>4388683

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4388702

>>4388683
Orin, you two timing pussy! heave at you!

>> No.4388706

>>4388683
I like Orin more

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>>4388697

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>>4388702

What are you doing? You are a bird.

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>>4388706
It's a shame that we cant all be Orins. If today you weren't the Chen, you will definitely be the Chen by tomorrow. And just look at the time, tomorrow just happens to be mating season.

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>>4388737
I'm sorry, but i don't have the 'im the motherfucking utsuho' pic. have this one instaed.

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4388751

>>4388737

She Is Become Death, Destroyer Of Worlds.

>> No.4388757

>>4388744
you are the one who likes the yakumos not me
you be the chen

>> No.4388765

>>4388748

That orb seems very uncomfortable.

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4388775

>>4388737
Go away, short-arms.

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>>4388765
yes it does. i wonder how it realy fits in with the rest of her body.

>> No.4388813

>>4388757
he was this time. next time in the argument it will probebly be chen vs cirno, which you will defend chen.

unless you are saying you will defend cirno.

>> No.4388814
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4388814

>>4388792

That is very amusing.

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>>4388813
No my friend, I believe he was trying to say he wanted to 'fuck' him. He didn't get a chance to do it this time hence the first [>>4388486] image. But the next [>>4388683] time there will definitely be some hot dickings exchanged. He got an [>>4388744] erection just thinking about it.

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>>4388879
a friendly advice: don't participate in a flame war while sleepy. i know this from experiance.

>> No.4388947

>>4386843
Wait, so if she can find the border between Winning and Losing... or "enemy is strong" and "enemy is a weakling"...

I declare Yukari as Hax...
Now my favorite character again...

>> No.4388960

>>4388757
>>4388744
>>4388706
>>4388683
>>4388501

I don't know what the fuck happened to this thread

>> No.4388968

>>4388947
>liking characters because of powerlevels

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>>4388968
and that's why Nitori is the best touhou

>> No.4388997

>>4388968
No not just that, Style, her familiars, Name, OP's pic... It's just that I never realized how her powers work.

I like wriggle for a lot of the same reasons I like Yukari...just the idea that she can mess with things like that is pretty cool.

>> No.4389001

>>4388968
perhaps that power was only the tie-breaker?

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4389007

>>4388947
It gets crazier. Apparently she can manipulate the boundaries between fantasy and reality.

http://touhou.wikia.com/wiki/Perfect_Memento:_Yukari_Yakumo

>> No.4389014

>>4389001
Exactly!

Before Yukari was Tied with Wriggle, Cirno, Rumia and Mouko for various reasons...

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>> No.4389036

>>4389007
Is that why I see her pulling trains and other modern things out of her 'portal' alot? Excuse me, I'm still working my way through alot of the Touhou facts...

>> No.4389046

>>4389036
a newfag AND a tripfag?
the haters will make dinner out of you...

>> No.4389056

>>4389046
not only that but a secure tripfag
what a homosexual

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4389075

>>4389036

Touhou takes place in the present, although a quite stylised and idealised present. Just Gensokyo is cut off from civilization and is for the most part stuck on a mid-19th century level of technology.

>> No.4389101

>>4389036
Her ability to create gaps and/or wormholes is only a drop in the bucket when compared to her general power. If you're fighting against her she can break the boundaries between the colors on your shirt and pants fusing them into one color. Or she could manipulate the boundaries between you and your depth (making you two dimensional).

>> No.4389251

>>4389075
Oh. That explains alot, then...

>>4389101
So if she ever decided to actually fight you seriously, you're fucked. Right?

>> No.4389272

>>4389251
that's what im devating in this thread
im off for a while anyways

>> No.4389274

>>4389251
Nobody fights seriously in Gensokyo. Especially Alice.

>> No.4389295

>>4389272
i mean debating

>> No.4389339

And to think, this whole thread started with just OP's picture. Was this truly the intention that OP had in mind for this thread?

>> No.4389340

>>4389272
>>4389295
For a second there I thought you were using some type of fancy word to marinate your argument. The first thing I said to myself was "that elitist prick."

>> No.4389360

>>4389295
You can always delete your post and fix it.

>> No.4389374

>>4389339
OP = Suigin = Jones

>> No.4389385

>>4386674
You put it inside her only to find out the other side of the gap was near another man's asshole.

>> No.4389423

>>4389385
Poor chen...
Yukari would have such disturbing presents...

"Happy Birthday, Chen"

"What is it?"

"Open it and see."

>Dick in a box

>> No.4389428

>>4386861
I see what you did there, post the original flash one, I know you have it

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4389452

Just the thought of Yukari administering daily hot dickings to Chen behind Ran's back pleases me to no end. This is my fetish.

>> No.4389453

>>4389385
Or better yet, your own asshole.

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>>4389428

>> No.4389563

>>4387015
Holy shit that was awesome. Laughed my ass off at the ending.

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4389775

I don't want there to be any bad blood between the Yukari, Yuka, and Kaguya fans that participated in this circlejerk. Let's agree to leave our personal opinions about the characters in these powerlevel threads.

>> No.4389890

>>4389775
Fine enough.

After all, why argue about power levels when we can argue about Patchy's chest size?

>> No.4390233

>>>4389101
Or she could manipulate the boundaries between you and your depth (making you two dimensional).

This is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

Also I'm not sure how canon that "boundaries between objects" thing is, because it's also pretty fucking retarded. There isn't a physical boundary between objects in the world, There's just a finite number of molecules in any given object, bound together into a structure. You don't just move the boundary and create more molecules, because there IS NO BOUNDARY. There's just a "lack of more molecules". There's only so far I can throw my suspension of disbelief you guys. Magic only accounts for so much until you start just deciding that whatever Yukari feels like doing involves a boundary that she can manipulate.

>> No.4390238

>>4390233
a boundary is anything that separates one thing from another
it doesnt have to be physical

>> No.4390281

>>4390238

This is an extremely vague power that potentially could be hurred and durred into anything. Boundaries themselves are merely an abstraction, they don't actually exist. It's just a way for people to comprehend a separation between two adjacent fields.

All I'm saying is that in any coherent gensokyo not governed completely by games and fanon, Yukari's powers would most likely have some kind of limit. It's just that since all boundaries are imagined, we can simply imagine boundaries for Yukari to manipulate whenever she comes up to anything she might have trouble with. and what if her powers have limits?

SHE CAN JUST MANIPULATE THE BOUNDARY OF THE LIMIT OF HER POWERS TO BECOME MORE POWERFUL! OP YUKARI HAX

>> No.4390298

>>4390281
thats the joke

>> No.4390319

>>4390298

That's cool. I was just making sure we were all in on it, I guess.

>> No.4390319,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>4390238
>>4390281
In Perfect Memento it's explicitly stated that the boundary doesn't have to be physical or mental in order for her to manipulate them. Did you not read the canon definition of her powers that explicitly stated she can manipulate the boundaries between imagination, dreams, fantasies, and realities? As PM suggested, everything in our universe is made up of boundaries. And Yukari's ability to manipulate them is a power that's capable of undermining the fundamental realities of our universe. There's a reason why they said it's a power that is on par with the gods of Gensokyo. You really only have two options when debating such a hax. You can either admit you're a secondary fan and you didn't know any better. Or you can question the authenticity of Perfect Memento that explicitly stated Yukari was "the strongest of youkai" in the Touhouverse (see: Ran's description in Perfect Memento).

This really comes down to your understanding of the word boundary. A boundary is a border and a border is a limit between two phenomena. Nothing more; nothing less. There are boundaries between:

-The past and the future.
-Fantasy and reality.
-The Earth and the Sun
-The living and the dead.
-Heaven and Hell.
-The strong and the weak.
-[insert_antonym] — ad nauseam.

"The danger and potency of the power to manipulate boundaries is beyond imagination."
— ZUN Imperishable Night (Manual)

Suigin's fag status:
☑ TOLD
☐ NOT TOLD

>> No.4390319,2 [INTERNAL] 

>>4390319,1
so want to continue this here, uh?

>> No.4390319,3 [INTERNAL] 

>>4390319,2
No. That was just a rebuttal that was going to be delivered in the existing thread. Since it 404'ed I posted it on the ghost board.

To answer your question, it's your own decision if you so choose to continue the debate beyond this point. To put that into layman's terms, it's your funeral.

I personally will not continue beyond this point because I'm busy with school work today.

>> No.4390319,4 [INTERNAL] 

>>4390319,3
just list me all the boundaries Yukari can manipulate that affect Yuka and I will counter every single one of them

>> No.4390319,5 [INTERNAL] 

>>4390319,4
Uh, no.

I'm only stressing defense at the moment.

>> No.4390319,6 [INTERNAL] 

Are you genuinely retarded, Suigin, or are you just acting that way for the same reason you type like a child?

>> No.4390319,7 [INTERNAL] 

>>4390319,6
retards can't use the internet, idiot

>> No.4390319,8 [INTERNAL] 

>>4390319,7
But virgins can. Pwn'd

>> No.4390319,9 [INTERNAL] 

>>4390319,8
like you :iceburn:

>> No.4390319,10 [INTERNAL] 

>>4390319,7
Sion-chan uses it every day

>> No.4390319,11 [INTERNAL] 

retards can use myspace

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