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Can we talk about theories that aren't "those" two theories for once?

>> No.4379472 [DELETED] 

So Teatrice thread?

>> No.4379476

So Teatrice thread?

>> No.4379483

>>4379468
Sure, if you have one that works.
It will be just as retarded either way

>> No.4379485

I like the fiction self-cest theory personally.
Would love to see it come true, especially how it would crush all the shippers.

>> No.4379482
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4379482

Let's start with the explanation to Hachijou Touya's (八城十八) pen name: 伊藤幾九 郎〇五七六

Now we agree to use these pronunciations and assign numerical values to them (based on the pronunciation)
伊 (i = 1)
藤 (tou = 10)
幾 (iku = 1,9)
九 (kyu = 9)
郎 (rou = 6)
〇 (maru = 0)
五 (go = 5)
七 (nana = 7)
六 (roku = 6)
Simple enough. We can now get 11019960576 from that.

Taking Touya's (十八 = 18) name into consideration, we can calculate:
11019960576 = 8^18
In other words,
18's 8乗 (18's hachijou, as 乗 can be pronounced "jou", lit. "to the power of")
The pronunciation can now be written as 八城十八 (Hachijou Touya)

Still following? <Good>. The relevance of this can immediately be seen in the second part below.

>> No.4379486

Back to Hachijou Touya's name.

八城十八, which can be taken as 8上18 (城 and 上 can both be pronounced as jou. 18 up 8? 18th exponent of 8. That's the 8^18 = 11019960576. Made the connection? <Good>.)

8上18 (18 up 8) could also be taken as 18 adding 8; 18+8 = 26
remember the cryptic 07151129 written on the door that was a bank account number? Well,
0+7+1+5+1+1+2+9 = 26
So now we've established a connection between Hachijou Touya 18+8 = 0+7+1+5+1+1+2+9 cryptic account number

Let's work with the 26 we've got earlier.
First, the surname 右代宮 (Ushiromiya) could be deconstructed phonetically and reconstructed as 後ろ38 (後ろ = ushiro, lit. "behind", 3=mi, 8=ya)
Behind 38? Oh: The 38 is behind.
Behind what? 26.

3826 (can be pronounced as mi you ni mu)
み よう に む or flattening them, みょうにむ
myouni, lit. tomorrow can be written as 明日
mu, lit. dream can be written as 夢

明日夢 can be pronounced as Asumu
With 38 behind (後ろ38, pronounced Ushiromiya), we finally get
右代宮明日夢 Ushiromiya Asumu

inb4 teapot theory

>> No.4379517

>>4379482
>>4379486
<Oh, very GOOD!>
but....
>inb4 teapot theory
YOU'RE TOO SLOW
>>4379476

>> No.4379522

I don't know any Japanese. This numeral stuff seems really stretched out, kind of like these 9/11 guys who look for the numbers from everywhere. Is it like that?

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>>4379522
I'd say yes, but Ange and Touya have a conversation about her pen name and numbers. It's not too much of a stretch in this case, I think.

>> No.4379586

>>4379553
Not just that; all but the last line of >>4379482 pretty much does come straight from EP6, when Ange is talking about how she took Hachijou's online pen name and derived her actual name from it.

>> No.4379615

>>4379482
>>4379486
So... Rudolf fucked a god, huh?

>> No.4379632
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>>4379615
She's a witch, not a god.

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>>4379632
A witch with power approaching that of a god.

>> No.4379664

There is still a VERY SLIGHT chance that Shkanon is just a HUGE trolling attempt. In which case Kanontrice and Shannontrice becomes viable.

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>>4379664
It'll be Kanontrice if that's the case. Which I, for one, am fine with, because it means Kanon is a reverse trap.

>> No.4379690
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>>4379643
She's not the real deal like Hanyuu, though.

inb4Featherine=Hanyuu

>> No.4379705

>>4379522

It's canon up until the 18 to the 8th power part.

>> No.4379713

>>4379690
> inb4Featherine=Hanyuu
Featherine -> feather+in -> 羽 ("feather") + 入 ("in") -> 羽入 = Hanyuu

AUgustus AUrora

Said it was nostalgic when Bern called her Featherine Auaurora

八城 can also be read as "yashiro"

etc.

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>>4379713
>he still thinks Featherine is Hanyuu and Bern is Rika!

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4379754

Since this seems to be a free-for-all seacats thread, I've a quick question about Dawn.

I was stupidly skimming through things last night towards the end, when suddenly Erika, Battler, Dlanor, and Moetrice are in some bathroom, freaking out about something. What was actually going on in there?

>> No.4379771

I'm rolling for ShKyrietrice, myself.

>> No.4379773

>>4379643

Voyager's powers actually surpass biblical God.

>> No.4379775

>>4379726
Of course Bernkastel isn't Rika. She says so herself in Higurashi.

>> No.4379789

>>4379754
I'm not sure myself, but I think Erika went back in time or something to set up a logical error in the gameboard, about the room Battler was locked in. Battler then tried to escape by cutting pieces of himself into the drain.

Maybe?

>> No.4379790

>>4379686
Nah, Kanon = Kinzo
Kaninzo ftw

>> No.4379796

>>4379773

No they don't.

>> No.4379797
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>>4379790
Another Kanon = Kinzo supporter? Our numbers grow!

>> No.4379834

>>4379686
Does it have to be one specific person who is Beatrice? What if it's more like a scapegoat for everyone? Beatrice would be everywhere where there is lies. Like she was a representation of Natsuhis lie in ep 5.

>> No.4379859

I think Jessica is Beatrice, always have. None of this moon-chan crap though, I doubt she's the culprit.

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>>4379834
Well yeah, Meta Beatrice was originally made up of at least two distinct Beatrices. One of those was the one who was created to love Battler by someone on the gameboard; the other(s), whether one or more, are currently unknown. If it's only two, then the other one is the embodiment of the legend of the witch.

In my opinion, Meta Beatrice isn't the embodiment of a scapegoat, but took on that role willingly. Remember Maria's conversation with Ange from Episode 4?

...Though I guess being a scapegoat could be her true role after all, when you consider how the person she was named after, the Beatrice of Dante's Inferno, was a person who took others' sins onto herself.

>> No.4379901

>>4379796

I don't want to start religious debates but really read Book of Genesis. Biblical God just created one solar system, and it took him 7 days. Lambda said she can create and destroy universes with ease.

>> No.4379960

>>4379901
You don't know what the word omnipotent means, do you?

>> No.4379978
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>> No.4379979

>>4379834

I don't particularly like the idea that the true culprit isn't the Beatrice acting out the epitaph, mainly because while the motives for the few characters that could be Beatrice are pathetic (Jessica for unrequited love, Shannon for a pony or whatever Battler promised her, Kyrie for her child), at least the story has laid out the framework for them. If the culprit is manipulating Beatrice, other than Kinzo (assuming there was some will of his that the servants are acting out), Jessica and the rest of the people that live on the island year-round, no one is in the position to manipulate the servants and Beatrice to pull off the incident, motivation to do so be damned.

>> No.4380005

>>4379960

Actually it can mean many things, depending on the author. Izzard was omnipotent in his tower, Lain was omnipotent on Earth and Q was pretty much omnipotent in his universe.

>> No.4380044

>>4380005

And yet none of the Voyager witches can solve a retarded murder mystery.

>> No.4380056

>>4380044
....but they did solve the mystery.....

>> No.4380066

>>4380044

Because using their powers to solve it would kill all the fun?

>> No.4380072
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>> No.4380087

I'm really tired of all those theories. Umineko is supposed to be solvable, yet one can create many theories that actually work and it's pretty much impossible to prove that just one of them is the real one. Maybe after Ep.7.

>> No.4380093

>>4380066
Or because they don't have any powers because they don't really exist.

>> No.4380123

Do you think it's possible to patch Umineko's soundtrack? I'd like to replace the songs with the anime mixes for better atmosphere.

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>>4380123

>> No.4380184

>>4380145
I'm serious :<

>> No.4380204

>>4380123
I assume you'd just make sure the filenames are the same, convert the replacee to ogg, and override the original file/

>> No.4380221

>>4380204
OK :D

>> No.4380232

>>4379979
There are hints that Kinzo did indeed write a will while he was alive.

>> No.4380237

>>4380087
We're coming up with all stupid shit now, but I bet the real answer will be something so painfully simple and not at all complex. Then, we'll all start saying, 'ah, we knew that all along!'.

I bet it will happen.

>> No.4380254

>>4380237

I hope it's something like that.

>> No.4380302

>>4380237
It's something to do with the fucking clocks.

Count on it.

>> No.4380321

>>4379797
Better yet, what if Kanon = Kinzo = Beatrice. Kinzo was really a girl forced to be a boy(mistake that Genji mentions Kinzo was trying to reconcile for), and so took in a boy and taught him to be the girl she wishes she would have been.

>> No.4380348

So, what do you guys think the meta-world really is about?
Is it really a multiple worlds setting where the meta-world exist above reality or is there another more realistic explanation?

>> No.4380363

>>4380348
Yeah. Everything is a fictional work written by K1.

>> No.4380407

>>4380348
It's the world where the readers troll themselves to their hearts' content.

>> No.4380415

>>4380407
Much like /jp/.

>> No.4380499

>>4380056 ....but they did solve the mystery.....

Lambda is the only one that may have solved it but she doesn't care. Bern, as far as I know, is going into Episode 7 still in the dark as to who the culprit is, even though she's the GM.

>> No.4380531

>>4380348
A place in between this world and the next, essentially purgatory. The only difference is that they have some limited influence of the real world in which they are presently connected to.(the influence being that they can help guide them)

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