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Previous thread;>>4371688

Last time, 'IT MUST BE POPULAR SO WE HATE IT: music edition'.

>> No.4373378

Reposting from last thread, but I fully believe that prison STRIP is -45's best song.

And I'm only fond of the starts of system_0 and The Girl's Witch Hunt.

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>>4373378
Hmm... Fascinating.

>> No.4373384

Take your shitty Scooby Doo novels and go back to /lit/.

>> No.4373389

>>4373384
We already saw the humorous MAL reviews.

This will not work.

>> No.4373392

I believe that Strip song was used in Dawn's Jessica/Kyrie fight. Correct me if I'm wrong, it could just as well have been fake red shoes.

>> No.4373393

>>4373379

Rebirth is fucking awesome.

>> No.4373396

>>4373363
Speaking of Core, does it remind anybody else of the Mission Impossible theme?

>> No.4373405

>>4373392
It was STRIP.

By the way, what IS the name of the song that plays in Kinzo's study? Can't remember it for the life of me.

>> No.4373412

>>4373392
It may have been used at some point in that scene, but what was primarily used during that fight was rog-limitation.

>> No.4373415

popping in to say discolor made the 2 scenes it played in absolutely amazing

no other song would have worked to convey the mood so well

>> No.4373418

my dear sucks because it makes me want to cry and roleplay

>> No.4373432

Yakusoku makes me cry bitch tears without fail. Every single time I hear it.

I don't know what's wrong with me. ;_;

>> No.4373438

I don't dislike it, but I think the The Great Detective Knows is just okay. A lot of people have it on their top 10 lists, and I don't get it.

>> No.4373456

Honestly? Active Pain.

It's not terrible, but I think it was the weakest of the ending vocal songs.

>> No.4373471

>>4373405
It's 透百合.

>> No.4373476

>>4373456
Same. Much prefer TSUBASA and discode.

>> No.4373478

I hate liberatedliberator. Boring shit that goes nowhere. Resurrectedreplayer isn't amazing, but it least it goes somewhere.

>> No.4373501

>>4373415
Wholeheartedly agree.

A rather silly confession, but I think it's one of THE defining bgms from the series. It's an incredible collection of music, but listening to discolor alone shatters my heart. One can't help thinking of Natsuhi being subjected to all that shit, and the worst part is that the person who's behind everything (or at least playing a big part) is there, watching her fall apart.

>> No.4373509

>>4373396
Is there an mp3 for Core from the anime?

>> No.4373514

I agree with what previous anons have said about DEEN ruining Core. I never particularly liked it, but I didn't hate it. After it was DEENified, I just can't stand it anymore. Same with suspicion.

>> No.4373530

I still like Core even after the anime.

Suspicion, on the other hand...

>> No.4373533

I was glad Tsuru Pettan was left out of the anime. I never liked it, and I never will. Fucking horrible.

>> No.4373538

dread of the grave, not so good.

>> No.4373543

Mortal Stampede.

Faggots.

>> No.4373545

I sometimes listen to stupefaction when I'm reading silly horror manga.

>> No.4373550

Seriously guys, how many fucking versions of hope do we have now?

It's at least ten.

>> No.4373558

>>4373550
It's like the You of Umineko.

>> No.4373562

>>4373538

Everybody loves -More Fear-

-More Fear- is the worst rendition of DotG.

>> No.4373572

>>4373509
Here's Core on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJfsn61LHGY

>> No.4373577

>>4373550
I wasn't aware there was more than one.

I don't actually like Hope all that much anyway. It's a nice song, but overrated.

>> No.4373582

I liked the anime OST album. Am I a faggot?

>> No.4373587

>>4373478
ressurrectedreplayer is pretty meh on the whole, but the section of it that remixes Far makes me want to cry like a goddamn baby every time. I could just sit and listen to that short 30 second piece of it over and over.

>> No.4373590

>>4373577
It's not so much that there's more than one version of it as that a lot of dai's Umineko songs have parts of it in them, or parts that sound similar.

>> No.4373593

>>4373577
I'm compiling a list right now. Prepare to shit bricks at how many songs hope is in.

>> No.4373596

>>4373590
Yeah, the bit that starts about 19~20 seconds in is used a lot.

>> No.4373599

It's annoying listening to the dai songs with hope in them, because my mind instantly links them to the lyrics in TSUBASA, and I can't fucking unhear.

>> No.4373605

>>4373599
ffffuck you just got me doing it because I'm listening to hope right now

>> No.4373611

>>4373605
MOSHIMO
SOKO NI
AI GA AREBAAAAA

>> No.4373612

>>4373587
I liked ressurectedrepplayer, or at the very least the part in the middle-ish where it slows down and gradually picks up>>4373582
I liked the anime version of あかいくつ偽

>> No.4373615

Something that I found interesting is that Sakutarou's theme has parts of happiness of marionette in it.

>> No.4373622

>>4373615
I like Sakutarou's theme quite a bit because of that, actually. Happiness of Marionette is the quintessential "faked/hollow happiness" song to me, so it sort of threw me for a loop when the final wedding scene in EP6 was a mix of that and Yakusoku.

>> No.4373624

>>4373582
I liked it too. Some of the songs weren't as good, but there were a couple remixes that were quite nice (happiness of marionette, for one), and some of the anime-original tracks were pretty nice.

>> No.4373631 [DELETED] 

>>4373371
Why must you stupid guys constantly spam and attack www . anon
talk . com for? Please stop. We don't want any chanturds there.

>> No.4373629

>>4373622
I quite like engage of marionette (the song you're referring to), because of its slowness, oddly enough.

>> No.4373639

Alive from EP6 is such a beautiful song. I just wish it was used in a context I was more interested in.

>> No.4373640

>>4373629
And because it's happiness of marionette and Yakusoku played on a pipe organ.

Speaking of Yakusoku and happiness of marionette, does anybody else like the guitar versions from that なんとなくなくソロギター CD that was released at, I think, C77? It's quite a nice CD, actually.

>> No.4373644

There doesn't seem to be much love for songs like Monochrome Clock or Like the gale. I don't see why that is, I think they're both pretty good songs, in their own way.

>> No.4373650

I really like キ・ナの香リ, I don't know why it just makes me feel giddy

>> No.4373651

>>4373644
Acquired tastes.

Amakusa would get along with you fairly well, though.

>> No.4373654

>>4373640
I love the version of Yakusoku that was played on that.

>> No.4373658

I like the ones that have heavy parts in Piano and the Organ (or whatever else in some of the songs sounds like the Organ) for some reason.

>> No.4373659

The songs with hope in them;

hope,
Hopeless,
my dear,
Towering cloud in summer,
Ride on,
TSUBASA,
TSUBASA (PinoMix),
翼,
あなたが生まれた日,
雨,
Future,
absolution,
夏の灯火,
hope (Ver0.5),
Checkmate (I think?).

I'm probably after missing a few.

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>>4373650
Because the characters it's the theme of are awesome in their flamboyantness.

>> No.4373667

>>4373651
"What, you don't like M.Zakky?".

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I like LoveExamination.

>> No.4373677

I liked the anime soundtrack in its own right, but it didn't evoke memories like the VN soundtracks do. I mean, for almost every bgm you listen to, there's a stand out scene to go with it. Couldn't say the same for the anime soundtrack. It lacked that personal touch.

In before some quip about DEEN having no love.

>> No.4373679

what is the name of that music that plays when Natsuhi in the closet in EP5

>> No.4373687 [DELETED] 

>>4373679

Spiral, maybe?

>> No.4373684

>>4373673
I like SF09-sayu-01.ogg

(What's it's actual name?)

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>>4373677

>> No.4373693 [DELETED] 

>>4373679
I can't really recall. I'm guess that it was either creepy or sombre. What did it sound/go like?

>> No.4373689

>>4373684
*its

>> No.4373691

I hope "you~beloved criminal~" is used sometime in the future.

>> No.4373701 [DELETED] 

>>4373693
it sound like wooooooooooo and creepy.

>> No.4373695

>>4373679
I can't really recall. I'm guessing that it was either creepy or sombre. What did it sound/go like?

>> No.4373702
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>>4373686
I remember when all of those were created.

I also remember when these ones would hurt my heart.

<Good> times.

>> No.4373704

>>4373684
battle field

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>> No.4373707

>>4373695
it goes like woooooo and sound creepy

>> No.4373709

>>4373679

螺旋_Choir?

>> No.4373714

>>4373706
Oh, fuck you.

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;_____;

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>> No.4373729

-45's amuraita (?) album is godly, and I hope that more of his stuff from there gets thrown into Umineko.

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>>4373718

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>>4373723
We may all have trolled ourselves on that one, though.

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They couldn't have just included this one line?

If they had kept the "my golden witch line," it would still have been shit. But slightly less putrid shit.

>> No.4373738

>>4373733

No

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>>4373731

>> No.4373742

>>4373736

I wanted the hug more than that line

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>> No.4373747

I hate Witch of Occultics.

The only way I ended up half liking it was when I heard some teenybopper on youtube's fandub of it.

>> No.4373755

>>4373731
>>4373740
>>4373745
Fuuucck. As if the images I saw in another topic wasn't tearing out my soul enough.

>> No.4373757

>>4373729
Amrita

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amrita

>> No.4373758

>>4373747
Is it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Axi2ScD5I ?

If so, yeah, that's what happened with me, too. I still don't really like it.

>> No.4373759

>>4373747
This? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Axi2ScD5I

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>>4373755

>> No.4373765

>>4373667
What were all the songs by M. Zakky anyway?
Was it just Monochrome Clock and LoveExamination, or were there more?

>> No.4373767

>>4373758
>>4373759
DUBMIND

>> No.4373768

>>4373747
I can see why people dislike it. I like it, though. Maybe because it reminds me of some of Kanako Itou's songs.

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>> No.4373777

>>4373759
>>4373758
FANDUB MIND.

But yeah, that was the exact one.

>> No.4373783

>>4373765
...I actually think that's about it.

>> No.4373784

>>4373777
>>4373767
DUBMINDMIND

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I actually kind of miss the pony theory. ;_;

>> No.4373791

>>4373757
That was an interesting, if rather random read.

>> No.4373794

>>4373729
>>4373757
Funnily enough, my favorite song from Amrita is -45's remix of Meiling's theme. (Distance' vector algorithm)

>> No.4373799

>>4373789
Being there as it was made was amazing and that won't ever change. And, well, we all acknowledged from the beginning that there were probably large parts of it that were inaccurate.

>> No.4373801

>>4373799
Yeah, I remember it too.

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>>4373799
Yeah, we never denied that there were gaping holes in it. But you're right, being there as it was formed was just amazing. Not even the formation of Teatrice lived up to it.

I don't know what I miss about the theory, though. I guess it was easier for everyone to be open with how shipfaggoty they were?

>> No.4373813

>>4373794
Ooooh, I really like that one.

Also like Bloody Malie, Gengaozo, and the one with raindrops at the start.

>> No.4373814

>>4373799

Hey, we were a little right. I'm happy with that much at least.

>> No.4373825

>>4373810
Yeah, they were fun times. I have to admit, though, that while I braced myself for trolling in EP6, I am still a little stung about the "Beatrice was created to love Battler" bit. That kind of thing just isn't really my bag.

>> No.4373826

>>4373810

I'd love to read a Umineko visual novel.

>> No.4373836

>>4373826
Oh, you.

>> No.4373842

>>4373825
These days, I kinda like the theory that there are actually multiple piece Beatrices (probably two), with meta Beatrice being a merging of them.

>> No.4373843

>>4373825
EP6 spoilers were just...I dunno. That part bugged me as well.

This thread is suddenly turning into fandom nostalgia for me. I remember being there as EP6 spoilers were posted over a couple days, and not knowing what was trolling and what was truth.

...I remember when we thought the trap twins and Featherine were fake because the hands looked too good for Ryukishi. Then we found out they were legit and MY GOODNESS THE EYERAPE.

>> No.4373846

>>4373842
Doubletrice is the theory I like most besides Teatrice right now.

>> No.4373850

>>4373843

That was just last month. How the fuck can it be nostalgia?

>> No.4373852

>>4373843
I remember seeing a screenshot of Erika in a wedding dress the day EP6 came out. At first I thought that it might not be a troll, but then I saw the one-winged eagle on the dress and went "yep, this is a troll". Imagine my surprise when I started playing EP6 later that night.

>> No.4373855

>>4373852
*the day after EP6 came out

>> No.4373859

Just popping in to point out that you can listen music with latest version if umineko text dump, just copy the BGM directory to where you extracted the archive.

http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/Umineko/Umineko.rar

On-line preview: (but without music since my upload sucks)

http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/Umineko/ep1.html
http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/Umineko/ep2.html
http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/Umineko/ep3.html
http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/Umineko/ep4.html
http://no-info.no-ip.info:6224/Umineko/ep5.html

>> No.4373864

>>4373859
...seriously? Fucking awesome.

>> No.4373870

>>4373852
The initial spoiler rush was really confusing and frustrating, but funny in retrospect, since it took so long for any hint of the parts I actually cared about to come to light. No one warned me about the Battler roleplaying shit beforehand, so it hit me like a truck when I was playing myself.

>> No.4373872

>>4373859
The EP5 BGM folder?

>> No.4373881

>>4373870
That was one of the earlier spoilers I saw. First time I've bawwwed at spoilers alone.

>> No.4373894

Speaking of Episode 6, what the fuck is Amakusa saying on the phone near the end, and to whom?

>> No.4373900

>>4373894
He was talking to Okonogi. Apparently Okonogi said something about how he wasn't an enemy of the Sumadera family, but that Amakusa could do what he wanted. Apparently he also asked Amakusa if he'd fucked Ange.

>> No.4373901

>>4373894

Killing Ange
Okonogi

>> No.4373903

>>4373894
He was talking to Okonogi. My Japanese isn't good enough to actually translate the conversation, sorry, but it was clear that it was super fucking shady and caused many people on Nico to go, "Oh, so he DID shoot Ange..."

>> No.4373910

>>4373903

It's something like "The Sumaderas are not our enemy. You're free to do whatever you want...but what's taking so long?"

Or something.

>> No.4373912

>>4373894
Something about sniping targets and fucking Ange, but that's about all I can get from it.

>> No.4373914

>>4373872
Both EP5 and EP4 have BGM folder. If you want to listen music from 1-4, copy BGM from EP4, if you want to listen to EP5 music, copy BGM from EP5; if not sure, merge both.

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>>4373900
>>4373901
>>4373903
>>4373910
>>4373912
Fuuuuuck. I knew it was something like that but the machine translation got so botched up I had no idea what the hell was going on.

>> No.4373929

So is Amakusa confirmed for fucking Ange?

>> No.4373932

>>4373914
Doesn't the EP5 folder have the music from the four previous Episodes, though?

>> No.4373937

>>4373929
No idea, though it's most likely true.

>> No.4373942

>>4373929
Of course he's fucking Ange. She's a brocon after all.

>> No.4373945

>>4373929

No, she's a virgin even though she hates virgins

>> No.4373947

>>4373942
>brocon Ange

I see the circle of fandom nostalgia is complete.

>> No.4373952

>>4373942

I'm kinda sad we can't hate on the brocon anymore. It sort of died with ep. 5 and then 6.

>> No.4373958

>>4373952
I remember raging when someone would impy that Ange was a brocon.

Now when someone does that it's more like "sigh, go back to AS."

>> No.4373964

>>4373952
>>4373958
I thought it sparked some good discussion, though. I was one of the ones who really liked Ange but raged at the Japanese fanartists all making her a brocon.

>> No.4373966

Is there a full-length version of "TSUBASA (ver hope)"?

>> No.4373969

>>4373958
I liked that preview for the anime that pretty much mocked the brocon fans.

>> No.4373970

>>4373929
Pfft.What give Ange the right to hate creepy virgins just because she lost her virginity to her bodyguard?

>> No.4373972

>>4373966
Yeah, it's on musicbox Blue.

>> No.4373978

>>4373966
Yes, It's just Tsubasa. Halfway through is the (Ver. Hope) you hear.

>> No.4373979

>>4373972
Disc 3?

>> No.4373993

>>4373964

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Especially if you got a real butthurt Angefag to argue with. I don't know what Japanese fans have decided to do with her lately.

>> No.4373997

>>4373789
Pony Theory was partially confirmed. I'm happy with how it all turned out.

>> No.4374001

>>4373964
I liked Ange too. I actually didn't realize that the Ange scenes in EP4 were supposedly boring until everyone started bitching about them.

Then again, Ange/Mammon is one of my favorite pairings, so...

>> No.4374003

>>4373993
They just let her get molested and raped by Featherinne now I think.

>> No.4374004

>>4373997
The only part confirmed was that the sin = broken promise. Which you could figure out even without the pony theory, so.

>> No.4374007

>>4373993
I really miss the brief rush of Bernfaggotry. No one would seriously defend her after EP5 details became clear.

Though for some reason Bern mostly just annoyed me through EP6. I think the novelty of her trolling just wore off by that point or something.

>> No.4374008

>>4374004

Too bad nobody did

>> No.4374014

>>4374008
Actually I only found out about the pony theory's existence after spoiling myself for EP 5 and before then I thought it was obvious what the sin was, especially after the song, so.

>> No.4374017

>>4374007

I'm kind of sick of her annoying troll face and I really loved her trolling the fuck out of everyone before. She's kind of too evil right now. The whole moooonsters shit at the end of ep. 6 made me cringe.

>> No.4374022

>>4374007
I'm starting to dislike Bern less, just because she might help make a hobo end possible.

Speaking of that, any hobo end bros in this thread?

>> No.4374023

>>4374014

You are a special snowflake then. Some people still think it's not between Beatrice and Battler.

>> No.4374028

Even though the TSUBASA on the blue music box was most likely the full version, and was pretty much perfect the way it was, I still want more of it.

I'm selfish.

>> No.4374035

>>4374023
>Some people still think it's not between Beatrice and Battler.

Well it's technically not between him and Beatrice, since our Beato didn't exist when the sin occurred, according to EP 6. Her existence came because of the promise. But it's clearly a broken promise towards Beato's creator.

>> No.4374044

>>4374022
>hobo end

Get out, scum.

>> No.4374045

>>4374035

Well.... yes.

>> No.4374057

>>4374022

I want Beato to have a happy end, which is pretty much completely impossible. I don't care about anyone else. If she can't get a good end, then hobo end for all.

>> No.4374061

>>4374022
hobo bittersweet end is pretty much all but confirmed.

The game itself states that the only way to end the game is to destroy Beatrice in some way.

>> No.4374071

>>4374017
Predictions for next episode:

Bernie trolls, Featherine says to her, "fuck you, you are aren't trolling hard enough!" and takes over as game master. Soon after, Bernie is all like "Um... I think that's enough... can we stop now please?"

You know what happens next.

Getting a taste of your own medicine always sucks.

>> No.4374079

>>4374017
> She's kind of too evil right now.
She actually shows a bit of humanity during the Episode 6 hidden tea party, at the beginning, at least. Of course, later she goes full troll, but I did find it interesting how she considered Featherine to be even worse than herself.

>> No.4374083

>>4374071
I was thinking that, too.

And christ, I really, really don't want that to happen because it's actually plausible.

>> No.4374087

>>4374071
Bern gets sent to Erika's worst kakera, saves Erika from it, joins Battler and the others against Featherinne (Or the culprit if they take over) Bern creates a miracle. Good end for all!

>> No.4374097

>>4374022
I want a happy end for the pieces. One that's full of badassery and resolving problems and maybe disposing of George.

I want a meta end that will make me cry more than every other bawwww part of the series has combined. More than Maria's past, and her getting abused. More than the EP4 tea party stabfest. More than Angeburgers. More than EP5's Ura.

I have no idea why I want this if I'm such a huge shipperfag but I want it to be soul crushingly depressing.

>> No.4374099

>>4374017
Somebody post the lyrics to her image song. (The title, 性善説, means "belief that human nature is fundamentally good".)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=namEqOjWZXE

>> No.4374101

>>4374097

>More than Maria's past, and her getting abused. More than the EP4 tea party stabfest. More than Angeburgers. More than EP5's Ura.

You felt nothing for Natsuhi abuse at the end of EP5?

you heartless bastard

>> No.4374104

>>4374101
Shit, forgot to include that and the EP6 RPing. ;_;

>> No.4374105

The only good end is for the pieces. Meta world isn't a place with any real happiness, just illusions of it. Just watch and see Meta-Battler destroy himself with Beatrice at the last game after giving their piece selves happiness.

>> No.4374106

>>4374101
Not that Anon, but I tear up every time I hear it shuffle onto my media player.

>> No.4374112

>>4374104
You also forgot Battler starting to cut himself up to escape through the bathroom drain.

>> No.4374119

>>4374104
Is "RPing" the scene where Battler talks to imaginary Beato and her friends in Kinzo's study, or I haven't read up to it yet?

>> No.4374121

Battler will have to go up against Beato with the wedges again, will break down, Meta Battler is a hobo. etc etc.

I desire this heavily reposted ending.

>> No.4374126
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4374126

This is the only reason I don't want a hobo end. But it's inevitable. ;_;

>> No.4374129

>>4374119
Yeah, that should be the scene.

>> No.4374131

>>4374121

I want to know how that would work. I just can't see him doing it. It'll be bawwww worthy to read though.

>> No.4374134

As do I.

And thinking about how that would be pulled off, you know what would make me bawww? If bits and pieces of Meta-Battler being a hobo were weaved in with the happy piece end stuff after they get off the island. Battler being sad and crazy in between Amge running up to her onii-chan and hugging him.

>> No.4374137

Fuck you guys.

Dead Angle is high tier.

>> No.4374141
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4374141

>>4374126
Right before that scene:

"Hey, you think you can help me out"

"lol i left it home sorry"

>> No.4374145

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPIxN7byEEw

This use to play all the time in EP1.

>> No.4374149

>>4374145
I could have sworn the title of that was TekuTeku, not rose. meh whatever

>> No.4374153

>>4374149
Different song.

>> No.4374155

>>4374153
yeah just noticed.

fuck why do all the mansion songs sound so similar to each other.

>> No.4374158

I'd say, you know, it should be theoretically possible for Battler to come up with a way to save everyone while still maintaining the mystery of "Beatrice" (just come up with a way to shove everyone in Kuwadorian before the bomb goes off or something), but uh, Bern and Featherine probably wreck any hope of that.

>> No.4374163

>>4374131
Moetrice gets every one of Beato's memories, and remembers that Battler was supposed to kill her. So she asks him to. They go out and are standing among all the flowers and shit like before, and Battler starts denying stuff or just uses the gold. Either way, when Beato is half gone he can't keep pretending to be strong because it's what Beato wants, and he completely falls apart. She thanks him, is dead, etc. Battler probably just crouches there,completely destroyed, for a while. The he packs his shit, ditches the Stakes, and is a hobo.

>> No.4374169

>Episode 6: Dawn of the Golden Witch

>* Translation: 3%
>* Editing: 0%

>> No.4374177

>>4374163
...;__;

>> No.4374191

>>4374177
Personally, I kind of prefer they both disappear together end.

>> No.4374200

How many episodes do Ryukishi plan with Umineko?

>> No.4374201

>>4374191
But that's kind of happy.

I don't mind grimdark but the series is heading for endless GRIM and DARK now.

>> No.4374202

>>4374200
7-9.

>> No.4374210

>>4374200
4 quadrillion.

>> No.4374211

>>4374202

Do you have a sauce?

>> No.4374213

>>4374211

Some Interview.

>> No.4374221

I kinda hoped for Erika being the protagonist and being trolled all the time. Shame she died, her butthurt face was so priceless.

>> No.4374231

>>4374221
Her asspain sprite was terrific.

At least she went out like a bro.

>> No.4374259

>>4374169
You forgot the Dlanor derpface.

>> No.4374281

>>4374259

I don't have one. May you provide it?

>> No.4374292

How do you think Bern/AuAu/The Culprit is gonna fight with Battler since he pretty much knows the truth?

I think it's gonna be something we learned in the EP5 hidden tea party, "If two truths are created and they cannot deny each other, the game ties." So the final boss would probably construct a theory that spans all the games and sounds good and correct, and Battler can't deny it even though he knows the Truth. This will force him to use both "turning the chessboard around" and proof by the contra-positive and finally, finally get off his lazy ass and have his Piece do something and gather evidence.

>> No.4374313

>>4374292
If Battler knew the whole truth then the game should have ended at EP 6. But it didn't.

He probably has some of the answers, but not all of the answers. Multiple interpretations, etc.

>> No.4374324

>>4374313

"He has found this tale's.....everything".

>> No.4374330

>>4374313

I thought that Erika just fucked with him so damn much that he couldn't show the Truth the right way? Besides, what WAS his objective/win condition in that game anyway?

>> No.4374333

>>4374313
Erika fucked up Battler's game in ep6.

>> No.4374352

So does anyone know what golden truth means yet?

>> No.4374379

>>4374292
I want to see a legitimate trial where they prosecute the culprit (sort of like in EP5, but with the actual culrpit(s)), but as the verdict is about to be read the culprit pulls a winchester out of nowhere, gets RAPEEYES, and starts shooting everyone.

>> No.4374385

>>4374313
Battler's goal was never to really figure stuff out, that was what Beatrice wanted of him. It was Battler's original goal to defeat Beatrice AND find a way to not have to suspect the people he knows. Since he no longer cares about defeating the witch and knows that the people he knows are responsible... His goals are no longer the same as they were, in fact he's probably doesn't even know what they are himself anymore.

>> No.4374389

>>4374352

The truth accepted by most people in the regular world.

This is why it is sometimes inferior and sometimes superior to the red truth (i.e red being absolute truth)

>> No.4374400
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4374400

>>4374333
I read that "Erika fucked Battler in Ep6".

>> No.4374403

>>4374389
And... it can materialize in form of golden sword and beat the shit out of people?

I guarantee that Kinzo is dead because everyone thinks so!!!

This is retarded...

>> No.4374408

>>4374403

Meta world doesn't exist

>> No.4374429

>>4374389
Really? I thought it was empirical truth.

>> No.4374439

>>4374389
So, you can say in gold that witches exist because most people in the end of ep1 believed in it?

>> No.4374651

>>4374408
I don't care if it exist or not. I only want it to be sane, which it, to some extent, without introduction of golden truth, is.

>> No.4374727

>>4374651

Here's an interpretation which fits into the boundaries and themes of the Meta World.

Gold Truth is a guarantee from the creator of the Tale concerning the premises of the story. Remember when Dlanor tried to trap Battler into a logic error using Kinzo's corpse and asking him to prove it was him using human means? Battler even admits it in Red. "There is no objective way to do this in the closed off Rokkenjima of 1986" Even if he has his Piece gather shit and investigate, it cannot be done. Dlanor's final move was pure bullshit, as Lambda states, "It cannot be done..with Red and Blue riight?" So Battler busted out a guarantee that overrides everything. Dlanor and Battler talked about this during tea, if the premise of the story includes hidden passages etc, Knox can't do shit about it. Many detective stories IRL are like this as well. You don't read John Dickson Carr's closed room novels looking for something mundane and everyday, the solutions in there are often mind bending, exotic and clever, but never mundane. That's the type of story he writes and premises that he uses.

Because it's a guarantee, by default, it has the objective truth and cannot be used to deceive clauses as well. And because of that, it is "inferior" to Red, because any witch using it is basically giving the human side a fuckhuge weapon.

>> No.4376206

Teatrice is the only ending I will accept.

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