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>Some of the specific wording may be changed, but we are planning to place restrictions on the following malicious actions, regardless of the creative process used to generate the work.
>・Impersonating official services, other creators, or other third parties, or any other actions which pixiv Inc. determines could be construed as impersonation.
>・Repeatedly posting works that copy the artistic style of a specific creator in a way that pixiv Inc. determines to be detrimental to that creator's creative identity.
>regardless of the creative process used to generate the work.
>regardless of the creative process used to generate the work.
>regardless of the creative process used to generate the work.

Congratulations. You've done it, vocal minority. You've effectively convinced Pixiv to make it illegitimate to draw like someone else. What's that? You drew a picture in the style of an artist you find inspirational and wanted to pay them tribute? Well, it's a coin toss whether they throw a shit fit and have your work taken down. Because "muh creative identity."

Just brilliant.

>> No.43476842

just keep seething AI fag nobody gives a fuck.

>> No.43476860

>>43476842
It's not just about AI

>> No.43476862

Jesus fucking Christ why are Nips so neurotic and nebbish?

>> No.43476872

>>43476842
*files a dozen reports on each of your submissions because your scribbles vaguely resemble mine*

Enjoy responding to each and every one, moron.

>> No.43476879

>>43476860
>>43476872
cry more

>> No.43476898
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43476898

>>43476879
You'd throw actual artists under the bus just to show up those kids playing around with an AI that can't even create passable "art", huh. Why the vendetta?

>> No.43477000

Kill nips. Behead nips. Roundhouse kick a nip into the concrete. Slam dunk a nip baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy nips. Defecate in a nips food. Launch nips into the sun. Stir fry nips in a wok. Toss nips into active volcanoes. Urinate into a nips gas tank. Judo throw nips into a wood chipper. Twist nips heads off. Report nips to the IRS. Karate chop nips in half. Curb stomp pregnant yellow nips. Trap nips in quicksand. Crush nips in the trash compactor. Liquefy nips in a vat of acid. Eat nips. Dissect nips. Exterminate nips in the gas chamber. Stomp nip skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate nips in the oven. Lobotomize nips. Mandatory abortions for nips. Grind nip fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown nips in fried chicken grease. Vaporize nips with a ray gun. Kick old nips down the stairs. Feed nips to alligators. Slice nips with a katana.

TOTAL. NIP. DEATH.

>> No.43477037

>>43476862
The copyright system is draconian over there

>> No.43477108

So are all my drawn ZUN style pics gonna get taken down by "original oc donut steel" tier faggots? Just don't upload, stop ruining shit for the rest of us you chinks

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43477216

>>43476779
this is the eventual fate of all drawing websites: first its all rainbows and sunshine, then some autism happens and the website starts losing its coolness, then more retard things keep happening and the users grin their teeth and endure it until the drop that breaks the glass ultimately arrives

>> No.43477894

>>43477216
So, like Deviantart and Tumblr?

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43478019

>>43477894
Yep

>> No.43478030

i love watching retard gaijins sperg out over this when theres zero issue between artists doing gift art and style swaps because they ask first

>> No.43478049

>>43476779
Welp, horribly vague and could totally be misused. Guess we'll just have to hope they enforce it within reason.

>> No.43478062

>>43478019
Okay

>> No.43478223

>>43478030
>i love watching retard gaijins sperg out over this
I assure you nobody gives a shit

>> No.43478245

>>43478030
>because they ask first
Your art style is not your property. Neither is any of your art. Seethe.

>> No.43478251

>>43478245
Once again outing yourself as a faggot that needs to lurk moar

>> No.43478306

This will fuck with artists that draw in ZUN style

>> No.43478393

>>43478306
>ZUN style
You mean beginner style?

>> No.43478572

>>43478306
I'm pretty sure ZUN doesn't have a pixiv account

>> No.43478683

>>43477216
pixiv was always trash. nips only flock to objectively shit websites.

>> No.43478961

>>43476779
>detrimental to that creator's creative identity
This is obviously aimed at AI fags. If you don't get it, you have autism.

>> No.43479060

>>43478961
This may be aimed at AI copycats, but the way it's worded opens up all manner of potential misuse and sounds like someone pulled in some favours to make it this way. If you can't see how this can be exploited or even simply used for harassment then YOU have autism.

>> No.43479104

>>43479060
Ah, so this was a schizo thread all along.

>> No.43479411

>>43479104
Just like the last thread with an image of Pixiv's logo, and just like the inevitable next when /g/tards remember this board exists.

>> No.43479879

>>43479060
Looks like i have some new fun things to do in my sparetime

>> No.43479913

just draw bro people have been doing this for like 300,000 years

>> No.43481953

>>43478961
>This is obviously aimed at AI fags.
Oh? Then would you hazard a guess why it says, rather explicitly, "regardless of the creative process"?

>> No.43482159

>>43481953

If they say it explicitly then they could get backlash. This is obviously aimed at AI but they can't explicitly say it since they still want the traffic that AI shit brings, but if their regular artists leave, they know it's game over.
It's like Nixon banning weed to get the hippies jailed. He can't make "being anti war" a crime, but he sure can criminalize weed and persecute them heavily for it.

>> No.43482529

>>43481953
Fanbox says that its aimed at AItards specifically. Pixiv, whose relation to Fanbox I hope I shouldn't have to explain to you, says the exact same thing in Japanese. Dlsite among other sites are making similar bans.

Have you tried actually doing your research?

>> No.43482570

>>43482529
The ENG announcement also points at AI being the driving cause, which I agree with wholeheartedly (and would really rather it was banned wholesale), and yet the wording of the rules poignantly includes the phrase "regardless of the creative process". Which makes me somewhat fucking worried, because that isn't in line with the purported anti-AI intent at fucking all.

>> No.43482922

>>43482570
The reason the artists aren't freaking out over these new rules is because they're all itching to report others for it out of jealousy
And then when the site dies due to moderation shitshow they'll say it was the AItards

>> No.43483006

>>43482922
You exaggerate, but that's what I'm genuinely afraid of. Artists not exactly being known for mental stability. And the specific inclusion of the creative process not weighing into it makes me think someone was really upset "their" art style was being "stolen" by other artists.

>> No.43483751

>>43476779
I think this is an important step. AI art is ruining pixiv. I've browsed places that have banned AI art and they have amazing person made art while pixiv is just poorly prompted art.

I used to browse Pixiv daily but it's just dead now.

>> No.43483786

>>43483751
You... do realise you can filter out AI works?

>> No.43483896

>>43482570
How many times in this thread do you have to be told that the wording isn't literal, and even in the source text it's not an issue, and even if it was rulings are generally made by intent and not the exact written word?

The only reason I'm not assuming you're sealioning is because I know this board has severe autism, but if you're going to keep bumping this kusothread repeating the same three things then all you'll do is convince a couple anons you're just a shitposter.

>> No.43483994

>>43483786
You've been told this several times already. Everyone does that, but AI creators want their work to be seen too and they know people filter it so they purposely don't tag it as AI

The result is that even if you use the filter, a bunch of the results are still generic AI slop. The site has become way less usable if you want to look for regular artists since AI just pumps out way more art due to prompting being way easier.

>> No.43484001

>>43483994
>AI creators want their work to be seen too and they know people filter it so they purposely don't tag it as AI
I've heard this said before, but from my personal experience (browsing, admittedly, mostly the Touhou tags), that has not been the case. Anecdotal evidence, I suppose, but still.

>> No.43484014

>>43483896
Then why was the "regardless of creative method" clause included? They already make it clear AI is the intended target, so what's that clause doing there?

Mind, I'll repeat myself here and remind you that I'm all for banning AI slop from the site, but the way it's being done only endangers derivative works and stinks of the Twitter drama around monetising styles.

>> No.43484725

>>43484001
Same, I was even worried where all the AI "Art" went lmao

>> No.43486093

>>43484014
>even in the source text it's not an issue
You got two (you)'s from me, be grateful. Now shut up and fuck off.

>> No.43486101

>>43486093
No

>> No.43487219

pixiv was never good
no i will not elaborate on why

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>>43483994
>they purposely don't tag it as AI
guys who do that are cancer and should be bullied, if your gens aren't bland than it doesn't matter if it's tagged ai or not.

>> No.43493792

>>43493228
>gens
What?

>> No.43494019

>>43493792
you generate ai images, so short hand would be gens.

>> No.43494080

>>43476779
Good. Fuck AItards.

>> No.43494091

>>43483006
Its not exaggeration people, thats just what happens when you do things like this

>> No.43494102

>>43494019
Gotcha, thanks.

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