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[Anonymous No.]

Why is Fate/Zero so much better than Fate/Stay Night? Urobochi Gen? No IDEALS? No generic Boy meets Girl?

[Anonymous No.]

Because Nasu came up with the idea and had someone else write it. Plus, no women and children.

[Anonymous No.]

Because Kiritsugu.

Because Diarmuid.

Because Alexander.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339655
>Rin, Sakura, Ilya, Irisviel, Saber, Sola-Ui
>no women

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339662
Kiritsugu is nice, but Diarmuid is weak and Alexander is homolust.

[Anonymous No.]

Probably because the main character wasn't a bowl of dicks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339666

>Alexander is homolust

Fixed.

Why is there so little Alexander x Waver-shota?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339677
Shirou didn't have even one dick, let alone a bowl of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339666

>Alexander is bromolust

Fixed.

Why is there so little Alexander x Waver-shota?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339682
Maybe because there aren't that many sickos in the TYPE-MOON/Nitro+ fanbase?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339700
>not that many sickos
>Nitro+ fanbase
What have you been smoking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339682
Because that movie never panned out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339682
Alexander is canon GAR, he turned Waver into a man. Or ten men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339705

BUT I WANTED IT!

Oh god, Waver in a skirt ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339711
Maybe this April, Anon, maybe this April.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339711
Waver is already a girl without any clothing.

[Anonymous No.]

Because Urobuchi Gen.
I swear, Nitro+ is making me turn gay, and I'm not even Japanese enough to understand their Chiral games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339708

One man with the power and eminence of ten men.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339666
I like Diarmuid because he has a fucking awesome song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiXr1AgiTFU

And because he's a sad case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339730
And an avid gamer. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339736

But he still has the girly hairdo.

But I wouldn't say that to his face.

[Anonymous No.]

There wasn't as much "gotta save everyone" and the romance aspect coupled with your future self having grown a brain at the worst possible time - those kinda took away from FSN. Zero = get shit done

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339740
That's the respect you get when you've been tutored by the King of Bros.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339730
>>4339740
Wait a minute...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339763
>TPYE-MOON

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339769
loltypo

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339649
Streamlined story, concentrated awesome(minimal slice of life, no break of pace to view LARGE train of thoughts) , better narration (third person helps) and less problems in writing.
Plus, since it does not focus on the viewpoint of one character, less chance of him ruining it for you if you do not like him or his thought process.
Finally, focus on action gives it a better feel 'for a grail war)
Good characters and good basic plot in an expanded familiar we are mostly knowledgeable with(thus spared some exposition) helps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339763
Well, Fate/strange fake DOES take place 10 years after Fate/stay night, meaning 15 years after Fate/zero, and people can change a lot in 15 years, so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339770
More like TYPO-MOON

[Katawa Shoujo Dev No.]

>>4339649

Urobuchi Gen's stories are more darker, edgier, and more on the insane side of psychologically (whilst Nasu does write about insanity, but on a slightly different frequency)

If you love Nitro+ works, then there's no question on why you like Fate/Zero.

I personally like both Nasu and Urobuchi.

Nasu gives me the whole "hmm that was pretty deep and heroic" feeling
Urobuchi gives me the whole "DEAR FUCKING GOD THAT WAS AWESOME"

inb4 ">>pretty deep"

[Anonymous No.]

Because it's not as popular so you think it's better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339763
So... who's his Servant in the fake Grail War?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339775
Fate/Stay Night is 10 years after Fate/Zero.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339837
Woops, you're right. Then Fate/strange fake is 5 years after F/sn, unless I'm wrong about the 5/10 thing as well and it's actually 10 years after F/sn, in which case Waver would be 20 years older.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4339799
OP here. I've only read Saya no Uta by Gen, but I thoroughly enjoyed it and I loved both Tsukihime and Kara no Kyoukai, so I guess that I do like both. The thing is that Fate/Zero gives me a different feel than that of Saya. When I read Fate/Zero it is like I'm reading Nasu's text told by Urobochi, something like that. The plot feels Nasu-ish but the writing does not.

[Anonymous No.]

>Why is F/Z so much better than F/SN?

Nasu comes up with some neato concepts but is poor at executing them.

[Anonymous No.]

Not as much repetitive exposition and internal monologues.

Don't get me wrong, I liked all that, but it's easier to get into stories that aren't drowning in that kind of stuff. Fate/Zero is kind of to the point, while it feels like Fate/Stay Night is trying to bloat itself.

[Katawa Shoujo Dev No.]

>>4339857

You should try out Kikokugai (also by Urobuchi). Translation was just released, and it has the same translator as Saya no Uta, so you will get some consistency.

Truth be told, though I did mention that Fate/Zero is darker and such. I do still need to formally read it. This thread has reminded to do such.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4340020
I've already downloaded Kikokugai. Just did not have the time to read it yet.