Touhou 12.3 Hisoutensoku Netplay Thread

[Anonymous No.]

Old one >>4240134

More info: http://touhou-hisouten.wikia.com/wiki/Touhou_Hisoutensoku_Wiki

Current version v1.10.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

Reported.

[Anonymous No.]

1.11 where

[Anonymous No.]

67.163.49.53:06112
US Central

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253156
1.11: Meiling nerfed, Aya nerfed, Marisa nerfed, SANAE BUFFED

Youmu now wears cement shoes.

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>4253137
I think stuffing airtechs and air-to-air are all I'm any good at, haha. I need to practice doing offensive BEs with Komachi, but there's nobody practice that with, nor am I really ever forced to do it. There's a couple things I'm at a loss for since 1.10, though. Komachi gained and lost a lot, and I don't think she's quite as evenly balanced in each department as she was before. I'm considering sharing my main with Sakuya or Reisen, possibly Reimu. They all seem good as of late...

[Seacats No.]

71.175.58.135:10800
Noob Yukari/Casual China Tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253185
Wait Magister, I still haven't really gotten your opinion yet--what skills/alt skills are good to run with Komachi in v1.10? I'd been thinking of using Soul Splitting Scythe alt. 214, but from what I could tell in your comments to Guy, it sounded like it wasn't all that practical.

Have any of the other alts. been significantly changed to warrant attention? I currently use only Human Spirit Passing By alt. 236 simply for the midscreen 5AA 5/6B 6C 236B 100% limit combo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253183
>Meiling's j.2A will now only do the initial downward strike.
>Meiling's B bullets will now knock the opponent back instead of up.

[Anonymous No.]

One of these days we should give 1.00 a go for kicks

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253258
>Sky Dragon Kick can no longer be chained into
>There are still no invincibility or graze frames.
>Recovery time increased by 3 seconds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253266
Suddenly, /jp/ Aya mains, hundreds of them.

[desudesu !duuZrNHawQ No.]

Ok, i started playing today, i'm in easy modo ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253258
I meant C bullets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253283

>Yellow Tremor Kick nerfed: now does 0.5 orb on wrong block

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>4253221
I made a lot of test decks, and that was the second bunch I tried just now.

The alt214 that makes timebomb wisps, Lonely Bound Spirit, is pretty good now. At level 2 and higher the explosion becomes ridiculously huge and meaty(really, go try it, it's incredibly large), but you can't stack them and you invest a shitload of spirit placing and detonating them. I really like it, but I had spirit troubles. That deck I was using today had Marisa potions in it to try to fix that problem, but I forgot to take them out when I swapped alts.

I always have Scythe of the Reaper(alt236) in my main deck. I prefer it over the other alt236 because it also limits off of 5AA5B6C, and off random j.2A -> 5A 3A alt236. It's also the only thing she's got that cleanly connects from j.8A. You can still gimmick someone with it the way you would with Human Spirit, just at a fixed(and ludicrously huge) distance, while counting as a laser in density instead of a C bullet. I consider it one of the best moves in the game period.

[Anonymous No.]

hosts

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>4253378
Like I said, Soul-Splitting Scythe didn't quite go the way I planned, but if you can be conservative enough to keep the soul flow going and consistently end in 214, it does indeed work, since the life souls generated can be either consumed or detonated. They don't really travel once made, they last a long time, and the opponent can't diffuse them, so if they ignore what souls you have, you can explode the entire stage with 2C, cancel into 214C if you're closer than 3/4ths the screen away, and make another batch of still-floating lifesouls for them to not-ignore-this-time while you're at it. You can yank those lifesouls in your general direction with 2[C]B cancels if you need them concentrated, too. It only takes one 2C detonation of a concentrated area of about 15 or so lifewisps before your opponent decides to never go near them again. But again, the problem with this is that it's 214, and you can't make a lot of 5C anymore, so in essence you're just fishing for Soul-Splitting hits, and that's just not me.

I don't like melee alts, but all of Komachi's are good now, and I'm seriously considering Boat of the Sanzu.

Sorry for the long opinions, but hey, you asked for it.

[Anonymous No.]

207.47.201.79:7500

hosting canada west, average

[Guy No.]

Hostan:

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
Risin' up, back on the street. Did my time, took my chances!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253370
>Spiral Light Step no longer grazes; increased start-up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253378
Alright, thanks! I did consider running Scythe of the Reaper, put it in a sandbagging/test deck ever since the first time I played you. Looks like it's more necessary than ever since 2B can't be used after random j.2A 3A hits near the corner anymore. I have to admit that I never tested Lonely Bound Spirit before because I assumed it was worse than the default 214.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253396
I can't seem to join this one

[Anonymous No.]

76.237.123.98
US west
Just started playing

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253486
You're missing a port number, and 10800 doesn't seem to work either

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253428

>3A and 6A are no longer chargeable

Oh man, I actually had to think for a minute on how I could possibly make Meiling even worse after all those nerfs, lawl

[0rion No.]

>>4253162

Great games Disco, that was fun. It's rare to find somebody who's fairly evenly matched in random netplay, so I was glad to have some competitive matches. Never played an Iku player, so that was very informative (and painful). I've always been curious to play her, but had no clue where to start really, so I'll look over some of those replays and hopefully pick up a few good tricks.

Had to lol at some of those Iku / Tenshi matches; some pretty OH SHIT moments in those matches. Also, I noticed you were having a bit of trouble connecting some of Remilia's combos there in those last matches, so I don't feel like quite such a loser for not being able to connect those very well either since the patch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253162
Good games Orion

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253494
Alright, got it. Thanks.

76.237.123.98:10800
US west
Just started playing tier.

[Guy No.]

>>4253416
Good games, iPad. Rehostan.

[Seacats No.]

>>4253200
GGs
Alright now I know I suck at the game when I lose entire matches too Sanae stomp and Trees. U need to stop being so casual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253564
Ah, I just tried to join but was unable to. You're probably unable to host until some settings are changed in your router. Until then you may have to wait for someone else to host.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253545
Remi's so fast, I usually pick only the big, slow characters. It's tough to combo with a fast character comparatively.

Those were some competitive matches, I enjoyed them

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253564
didn't work for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253200
Good games there Seacats. Sorry if I went a little overboard with the treespam with Suwako. I really only know Marisa. Everyone else I'm pretty much a noob who supers after dial-A (Wait, I do that with Marisa too...)

Anyway, time for some tips. Stop airteching all the time. Seriously. I couldn't stop yelling that every match. Predictable teching will really get punished. Also you should block on wake up. Too many times I could just walk up to you and dial A you on wake up. Work on those and you should get better. Until next time!

[Anonymous No.]

Man, I wish I could host so Magister could come kick my ass into the ground and tell me how scrubby my Marisa is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253564
you probably need to forward port 10800 or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253601
We all do, friend. We all do.

[desudesu !duuZrNHawQ No.]

>>4253575
Yay, my first online match.

[Anonymous No.]

Could someone test my connection?
174.0.51.137:10800

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253605
I already did. I must've done something wrong, yet I can't think of what.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253656
well, you should double check that you're forwarding the port to the correct lan ip, instead of some other device on your router. also, even with the port forwarded, some other program could be denying it. i had to disable windows firewall, for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253793
The free version of ZoneAlarm also causes me issues, even though SWR is allowed internet access in the settings. I have ot turn it off each time.

[Guy No.]

>>4253575
>Okuu is now faster and has a midscreen BnB that does over 3.5k damage with just one alt skill card.

Jesus fuck. So what was the reason they nerfed Meiling, then? I mean, holy shit. Good games, Disco. Now I have to be even more careful around Okuu.

Rehostan.

[Anonymous No.]

207.47.201.79:7500

hosting canada west, average. i'll try again

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253919
Great games Guy! Those were very competitive matches. Yeah, Okuu got a much-deserved buff....but I don't know why they nerfed Meiling...maybe they were drinking with ZUN

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253145
http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/

Stop linking to the inferior shitty wiki.

[Guy No.]

>>4253939
My 4 control rod BnB with limit and maxed Descending Flower Slam did less damage than your buff-less midscreen BnB. I don't know if I should laugh hysterically or cry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253949
Duly noted. I hadn't seen that mirror yet since the touhou-hisouten.wikia and touhou.wikia ones went up first.

This wouldn't be an issue if bell hadn't axed swr.mizuumi.net.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253967
Maybe they just don't like China

[E-FREE No.]

>>4253967
BAWW, BAWW, BAWW.

BTW, I'm a chicken, but that's besides the point. China's always been low on the damage scale, and which makes your situation more understandable now seeing as Tasofro seems to be returning most back to their IaMP nature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253978
bellreisa buttmad

[Guy No.]

>>4253991
One day, there will be a thread where Meiling is referred to by her name, and not her country of origin. And when that day comes, I will go out and indulge, for the end would be near.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253638
Good games Yggdrasilface! I don't think we've played in a long time. Thanks for helping me test my connection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253638
Good games Rabbit-Box, nice fighting you again. Hope I wasn't too bad for you once I got some of the rust off. Fighting people who can actually play reminds me how hard it is to play without the ability to catch constant airtechs.

And man, the one time I finally blocked Youmu's 3A on reaction, thinking I can finally do something... NOPE DP TO THE FACE. At least I countered Yukari's train. A lot of times it feels like that's the only reason I have Blazing Stars in my deck. Fun times, looking forward to next time.

[Anonymous No.]

US East
Shanghai-beamu tier

173.64.84.80:10800

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253967
Those of us who played IaMP are used to this (you had to be like 4 times better than your opponent in order to win with her because of the horrendous damage output, not to mention her projectiles are really only good for defense and comparatively weak midscreen pressure). She hasn't hit rock bottom in 12.3 yet, I think.

[Guy No.]

Inb4 patch 1.11
>We seem to have made a mistake in the last patch. Hong Meiling is still taken relatively seriously. In order to amend this grave oversight, we have released this patch to help correct some of these egregious errors. We apologize once again for this unfortunate mistake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253939
>Okuu got a much-deserved buff

Fuck no. Not only did she already have insane damage output from the start, now she can do EASY 3700+ damage combos off a single mistake. Couple that along with the speed buff she got and she's ridiculously overpowered now.

[Anonymous No.]

>-Scorching Sun: Damage increased. Will also quickly fill your card gauge when taking damage.
Oh hey that's pretty cool.

>-River Mist: Duration reduced, starting at 75.0.
Sweet-
>The movement effect is now more powerful.
Fuck. This. Shit.

[Guy No.]

>>4254032
Ah, I didn't play IaMP or SWR, so yeah. According to the 1.03 Glicko rating chart of the top 10 players of each character in Japan, she was second to last, though (only above Suwako). I just hope the problem is with me not yet having a good grasp of her yet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254052
she was D-tier before

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254024
Ahaha, I definately wtf'd at the train counter. After all that effort spent on knocking you over too, I didn't expect Marisa flyby to come out.

Youmu 3[A] into dragonpunches are my specialty. I think Guy has been conditioned to simply guard after reaction blocking it, allowing me to continue my pressure even though It's a guessing game for me on what the opponent is going to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254065
River Mist: you will bring weather-change system cards, I guarantee it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254052

Disagreed. Utsuho's main thing has always been xbauxheug damage. Before, she was just too slow to truly compete, and didn't have enough damage to make up for it. She's a fair bit better now, but I'd hold off on calling her overpowered

Honestly, save for Meiling, I can't think of a real "D" tier character now. All the characters seem quite viable except perhaps her

It's just.. then Tasofro had to go and nerf her combos. And then not buff her damage in any way whatsoever

Seriously, she has to work twice as hard to get the damage output of other characters. It's kind of dumb. She just does not rip an tear enough in melee to justify having such shitty bullets and short range ::/

Pic related, Meiling's reaction to being nerfed

[Guy No.]

>>4254122
I don't think I've seen anyone other than me talk about Meiling so much here. Who are you, if I may ask?

You should check out max level Shui Xing Tai Ji Quan sometime. It's a bit gimmicky, but incredibly hilarious when you pull it off after absorbing a few of your opponent's projectiles.

[Guy No.]

>>4253919
Mmm, no one's joining. I'll try again some other time!

[Anonymous No.]

>Okuu is now faster and has a midscreen BnB that does over 3.5k damage with just one alt skill card.
Guess I'm not playing this game anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254223
It's not over 3.5k, it's 3.2k, I tested it in practice mode

only 400 more damage than her usual combo

[Guy No.]

>>4254244
Sorry for the inaccurate information. I guess I had one control rod used, then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254073
>>4254122
I'll agree that she wasn't a very good character in 1.03 and below but with the nerfs etc that the various other characters recieved in 1.10, Utsuho's buffs are absolutely ridiculous.

[Anonymous No.]

Guy, I was wondering, why don't you use any youmudash system cards on your ch-erm, meiling?

dial-a > Dash > dial-a > Dash > dial-a does mora damage than
dial-a > colorful light wind chime at the same cost
and you can even use some spellcard to finish in the first option

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254141

Just a lonely soul with internet too shitty to compete online, so I live vicariously through discussing hisoutensoku in threads like these, watching replays, and practicing vs custom AIs

That no longer work with 1.10 ;_;

If you'd like a name, you can call me Honshu, but I never play online because of the aforementioned internet issue ::C

I main Alice and play China when I get bored of Alice's fairly conservative playstyle

By the way, did you know that the alt 623BC Tiger's Strength buff no longer fades due to being whacked by an enemy? It's actually kind of awesome in a SDK and DFS skillcard deck now. I saw you mention in another thread that Fierce Tiger's Inner Strength had the same change made to it, so I figured I'd try out the normal skillcard version. I still wish Tasofro would make the B and C versions different, though. Make it so the B version will make the Tiger's Strength charge be used on your next attack, and make it so the C version will only be used up when you use a special attack, like 22BC or 214BC. It'd be so much nicer if it was done that way, since right now using Tiger's Strength is like hanging up a big neon sign saying I'M GOING TO TRY TO SDK OR DFS YOU NOW, so everyone is ready for it ::/

I'm gunna have to try Shui Xing Tai Ji Quan sometime. I've still been trying to get some use out of Colorful Rain. I maintain that it's not bad as Oki, but the bullets really should cause a slightly longer hitstun, especially at level 2 or higher. Oh well, I guess we'll see what 1.11 brings

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254328
>and you can even use some spellcard/skillcard to finish in the first option
Forgot that skillcards still activate even if you have zero Spirit

[Anonymous No.]

99.244.237.85:10800
EC Canada
DP spamman tier

[Guy No.]

>>4254328
They're a decent option, but still more of a gimmick than anything else. Extending a combo with the system card and then using a spellcard is about the same damage wise as just comboing into a 5-card. So the way I see it, they're good for squeezing out a crush against a slippery opponent (2AAA stagger 5AAA f.5A 6A sword 2AAA 6A sword etc.), since once you use the sword, some combos just won't land (for example, 5AAAA sword 5AAA 5B 5C hjc9 j.5A j.2A (one hit) j.5C j.214B doesn't work, the j.5C won't connect). I may mess around with them a little bit, but it doesn't seem to add enough damage to really be worth it outside of crushes.

>>4254329
Yeah, I did notice that change. One problem I encountered was that it's hard to utilize against characters who are good at defense. Obviously you get the most damage if you land a powered up SDK or Red Cannon raw on the opponent (I've had it hit for over half the life bar with 4 control rods), but both of those moves are hard to land and easy to punish. The best bet is to land a 3k-ish combo off of a cross-up j.2A while you have the effect. While 3k is low for considering it's 4 cards, 3k off of a cross-up is actually pretty good considering those are one of the easier things to land. It's the same reason I use the 5-card Qi ball; it chains into 2AAAAA, which gives you pretty much an anytime 3k, which is great for finishing up tough matches.

If anyone else has messed around with the sword system card I'd love to hear what you think about it, though.

[博麗 霊夢 !1rAyMooPLc No.]

Any US/Can hosts up?

[Anonymous No.]

207.47.201.79:7500

hosting canada west, average.

[Anonymous No.]

I've glanced at these threads here and there, and most characters seem to have gone undiscussed. Everyone seems to play Alice at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254485
Funny. It's because you used them in the past and I felt extremely irritated whenever I got hit by 5AAAA sword 5AAAA sword 5AAAA Earth & Sky Dragon Kick, good-bye-half-my-health-bar that I keep four swords in my Meirin deck.

I'd love to see 5AAAA sword 5AAAA sword 5AAAA sword 5AAAA sword 5AAAA happen someday, but I don't know if that's even possible (maybe it stops comboing at some point?).

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254575
It's possible to use 4 swords and finish with a colorful light wind chime
Getting 4 swords and the correct spellcard in a real mach would be very rare, tough

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254590
And 3 dashes and colorful light wind chime does more damage than dial-a and Colorful Light Lotus Flower Palm

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254428
GGs iPad.
I kind of wanted to practice blockstrings but you weren't blocking much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254590
I actually tested it, and it does 4938 damage

[desudesu !duuZrNHawQ No.]

>>4254606
It was my second online match :3, btw, how is that "Level 1, 2.." thing? i don't get it

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254617
Skills level up if you use their cards, this usually makes them more useful.

[Guy No.]

>>4254575
Haha, yeah, that was fun to do. The problem is that that combo does pretty much the same amount of damage as 5AAAA "Omae wa mo shindeiru", while requiring that you use an extra two cards to do so.

Hmm...after doing some testing, while it's hard to tack on combos after using the swords, 5AAAA sword 5AAAA sword 5AAAA Sky Dragon Kick does ~3.8k if SDK is at max. That's good even for a 3-card spell combo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253145

Real wiki:

http://hisouten.koumakan.jp/wiki/Main_Page

This is the real wiki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254674
Yes yes, I know already. See:

>>4253949
>>4253978

[博麗 霊夢 !1rAyMooPLc No.]

>>4254541
ggs

[Anonymous No.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOH_H6h8kG8

Just to show that it's not that hard to accumulate the dashes

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254644
I guess I just like how there's more flexibility with the swords. Depending on what spellcards and skillcards you have on hand, at worst there's 5AAAA sword 5AAAA SDK for 3k damage, at best there's dial-A sword dial-A sword dial-A E&SDK for 5k, and any combination of dial-A, sword, and SDK skill level-ups inbetween.

[Remilia Scarlet No.]

89.79.241.99:10800
EU, Remi only, casual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254709

ggs, im still pretty bad at swr

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

Late night hosting.
76.29.15.231:07500
US Midwest.

[Anonymous No.]

There was no Territorial Oak.gif in the last thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>4255490
Thank god. I hate that tree so goddamn much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4255461
Well that was laggy. Thanks for joining at least, I know there aren't many people around at this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4255589
Yeah, my bad. Don't know what was wrong. I closed some windows and that did little to no help.

[Remilia Scarlet No.]

>>4255032
GGs E-man. Always fun playing against ya.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4255032
GGs Remi

Thanks for the matches, but it's 3:35 here in the States, and I have to be up in about 4 hours for work.

[0rion No.]

>>4255461

Thanks for the games Duckator. Sorry I didn't put up much of a fight. Pretty tired so I suck even more than usual. I was getting pretty lazy with my constant chickenblocking and it definitely started to get in trouble as the matches went on, lol. Ahh well, good times.

[Anonymous No.]

Take it to /v/.

qagq489ws2

[Anonymous No.]

>>4255855
Good games, your Alice put up a good fight. She was genuinely hard to approach but that might be because Meiling's C bullets don't go quite as far as Alice's 6A .

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone hostan?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4254329
>I know everything there is to know about this game. Everyone else are noobs.
>Haven't played another human.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4256873
You must be pretty insecure to understand what you greentexted from what was actually posted.

[Anonymous No.]

bump

[Anonymous No.]

24.57.211.97: 10800 hostin, south western Ontario

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257197
I live in Orlando too.
But I can't connect, do you have your ports forwarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257203
>Orlando
lol, Ontario. Try again now anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257203

Someone's tired.

[Anonymous No.]

190.232.246.217:10800

Baka tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257203
Good game.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257197
disregard that typo i suck cocks Anyway, really good games.
I was fighting really weird today, either running into your attacks like an idiot, or blocking for five minutes. Sometimes I use too many skill cards and forget what skill i have assigned, etc etc
tl;dr, sorry for being a noob faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257317
At first I though baka tier meant you were newbie.
I was wroooong.

[Anonymous No.]

GGs Deesck, some tips:

Block on wake up. Block when you aren't moving. Block in air when you aren't going gracing forward. Cirno bullets are fast and they will catch you by surprise.

Okuu hits and hits very hard. I can't believe you took 6500 just at the start of the second round.

GGs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257578
Blocking's something I can't quite get right

[Guy No.]

>>4257578
>6500 just at the start of the second round

Eh, it happens; an Okuu and a Komachi did something similar to me yesterday. Blocking is hard!

[Anonymous No.]

71.15.107.157:10800
US Central

Salty tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257743
Too bad it lagged so much, GG though

[Anonymous No.]

89.243.212.17:10800
EU
meh tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257743
Sorry, controls were jacked. Meant for you to reconnect, but Nipah hijacked it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257893
Ah np, iam hosting here if you want another game >>4257885 duno if it works first time hosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257743

GGS E-Free.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257743
GGs, Nipah

Sorry, but something's come up. Gotta run, but we'll continue this later today, hopefully. Thanks for the matches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4257885
GGs. After a while I just didn't want to follow you to the ceiling anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4258765
Fun games but damm, you beat me with preety much everything...

[Anonymous No.]

190.43.70.226:10800

Baka tier.

[Anonymous No.]

These tips that consist of "block all the time" is just professional grade bullshit.

If you want any chance of winning you need to learn a couple combos and be able to execute them with ease.

There's only so much you can do to sharpen your intuition as far as when to attack and when to use what.

Between two people that strike each other evenly, the one who combos the most will always win. The other one will only 5A which does anywhere from half to a quarter of the damage a well-executed combo does.

Go to the wiki and practice your combos for God's sakes then come back, you're guaranteed to do better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4259641
I'm not saying guarding on wakeup is a bad idea, if you don't tech away from where you are then you should almost always guard.

Once the chainblock begins then whip out Iku's card and you'll be on the offense. Every deck needs at least three Iku cards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4259641
This. You should know your combos like a rifle drill or you're not gonna be able to get them off in the middle of a fight. You should be able to do it without thinking about it.

Perhaps you can freestyle a bit when you get better but in the beginning you're gonna need those combos.

[Guy No.]

>>4259671
My main deck doesn't have any Iku cards. I feel a little silly now!

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>4259641
>>4259682
Combos are important, but your priority is misplaced. 'Block a lot' is a bit ambiguous, but the idea is that movement and spacing >>>>> combos. If you knew a 100% combo but could never hit your opponent because he can outmaneuver you, where does that leave you? Differentiating between defense opportunities and offense opportunities and putting yourself in those positions to execute them is the most effective thing you can do, it's just that combos will maximize the damage you get from those situations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4259718
it's /jp/
why bother

[Guy No.]

>>4259741
Whatever helps. I appreciate any good input I can get, personally.

[Anonymous No.]

The numbah 1 strategy is.

Kill the touhou until she dies. So easy.

[Magister !J.hpxLWh4g No.]

>>4259741
I have faith! I don't why, but I do!

[Anonymous No.]

>>4259748
Then stop relying on random flying kicks and guard crushes into spellcards. They are crutches that are holding you back. Even with the damage nerf, you still do them, making you take far more damage than you deal. Learn how to manipulate the opponent and keep pressure on instead of throwing it all away for a chance at some cheap damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4259717
It'd be silly for you to do that. Why waste 3 card slots for defense when you don't play defense? Those 3 could be used offensively instead, which is your strength.

At any rate, Iku reversal cards are a mixed bag. Some characters absolutely sucked when using them (back in v1.03, might be different in v1.10). I remember playing a set against E-MAN where I won two games by trading hits with him when he used that card.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4253162
rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>4259821
>why be smart and play defensively when you can gamble it all on random hits and get smacked down consistantly by strong players like magister

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>>4259815
I'll continue to keep this mind. I don't know if you saw how I used to be, but it used to be a lot worse. Unfortunately, I'm a relatively slow learner.

Anyways, hostan:

76.28.244.101:10800
USWest
Kuradoberi Meiling

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>>4259834
Sorry, I have to do something. Thanks for the games.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4259971
it seems the game disconnected,

Might you rehost?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4259991
good games
>>4253162
rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>>4260030
ggs

72.193.17.244:10800 west coast
newbor

[Anonymous No.]

soku is so dead today;;

[Guy No.]

>>4259971
Good games, Claus. Sorry about earlier, I was disconnected for a bit.

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>>4259971
cool games bro. I haven't played much, so I hope you don't mind I saved replays for referencing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4260236
good games
>>4253162
rehosting

[Guy No.]

>>4260353
Of course not, I hope they help.

[Anonymous No.]

76.170.225.105:10800

US West.

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>>4260403
yes, very much.

Your default b and b6 offer really good protection against being meleed in the air as you graze forward. There's a lot of other things in here that are useful too but it'd take too long to list them. Reisen is one of my favorite touhous but her playstyle doesn't suit me very well. Having the elixer cards nerfed from 15 to 5 percent doesn't help.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there any European soul willing to fight a lonely Suika?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm european.
You host?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4260514

Rehosting.

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>>4260764
Can't host. I guess we're fucked.

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>>4260514
Good games

you might want to cut back a bit on the projectiles and the jumping really high

[Anonymous No.]

>>4260772

so near but yet so far...
I can nearly feel suikas fist

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>>4260772
>>4260790
Try Hamachi?

[Anonymous No.]

in vs com, how do I set the ai difficulty to hard or lunatic?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4261066
Did you try going to config

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>>4261066
Options.
Wow.

[Anonymous No.]

72.193.17.244:10800 west coast

apparently very bad tier

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>>4260771
Good games Ryas. Very slippy and aerial Suwako you've got there, that was really fucking hard (read impossible?) to deal with her.

Also how do I avoid infinite corner pressure + around 5k damage? I dunno lol.

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>>4260771
Good games Ryas. Very slippy and aerial Suwako you've got there, that was really fucking hard (read: impossible) to deal with her.

Also how do I avoid infinite corner pressure + around 5k damage? I dunno lol.

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>>4261188

GGs.

I think you can border escape out of her blockstring if you time it right.

[Anonymous No.]

I think you can border escape out of her blockstring with correct timing.

GG.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4261217
Haha, I tried, but I didn't find the correct timing... Also what pressure was that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4261222

5a5a5a j.5b air dash 5a land repeat.

[Anonymous No.]

Bump, anyone around?

[Anonymous No.]

Good games, jamitin. My roommate's home and she brought dinner so time to eat.

You would have had probably had me on that latest Sakuya x Utsuho match had the weather not turned to Typhoon, probably in one match with an Iku too. I was hoping to get a broader spectrum of randoms but seems like I was playing Iku/Utsuho for a good amount of time.

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>>4261846
great games. some were pretty close, others not so much... those typhoons reminded me it's probably not a good idea to go skill/system only deck with sakuya -_-

[Anonymous No.]

201.230.38.39:10800

Baka tier.

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>>4262272

I am sorry, something came up. Will host in a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

201.230.38.39:10800

Baka tier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4262272

Rehosting

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>>4262396

GGs Johan, connection too laggy for me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4262396
GGs. I really like your deck setup, makes things really interesting.

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>>4262938

GGs winty, Alice players tend to lower their guards a lot very often when they are far away to spawn more dolls. Against Alice I poke and run due to most Cirno skills being useless against Alice great melee range.

[Anonymous No.]

Rehosting >>4262396

[Anonymous No.]

76.29.15.231:07500
US Midwest

[Anonymous No.]

71.220.165.133:10800 WC/EC ONLY

Casual Advanced. Got back from a one-shot job. Urgh.. I hate my life.

[Anonymous No.]

69.154.199.6:10800 Texas.

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>>4263053
Haha, good games as always Duckator! Oh man, did that alt Yuyuko spin attack always have invincibility frames? I kept thinking I landed a hit, only to be slapped by your fan. And, is Suika slip and slide the new loliball? It did absurd amounts of spirit damage on wrong block and it seems to graze too.

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>>4262964

GGs Claus, I showed you all my decks and it's already almost 3 am. Run over opponent to traps with katamari deck, fall back to corner behind trap and apply spikes everywhere deck, poke and run deck and full air melee deck. Usually against Meiling players I use poke and run.

Watch my orb count, you often backed off when I was about to break, Meiling trick is to apply maximum pressure all the time, move around your opponent so he can't do anything but block, use your bullets to bait a graze and punish accordingly. Meiling is really good at making you believe you are in safe range but hits you when you least expect you.

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>>4263491
Good games Rabbit. You sure like using 5C with Patchy. Luckily, the bullets are easy to cancel out.
Yeah, the C version of that spin always had invincibility frames and 66B is the new 66C. Unlike loliball it has graze frames all the way through. The only downside to it is that it can't catch anyone in the air.

>>4263053
Rehosting

[Anonymous No.]

>Deleted with only 189 posts and nowhere near page 10.

Today's been a weird day.

[Anonymous No.]

I guess it's official: the Meido is on a rampage. I started this thread, and I definitely didn't delete it.