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[Anonymous No.]

Anyone learn Japanese with this exact method? Been studying on and off not taking it seriously for two years now but finally wanna actually sit down and try but there's so many resources out there that It can be overwhelming. Already know how to read and write all Hiragana, Katakana, and about 100 Kanji. Currently using Japanesepod101 for listening practice on YouTube, been watching an episode a day of shows on Lingopie, and been slowly making my way through the Remembering the Kanji book. Feel like I'm making good progress but maybe there's a better way?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42340130
Bump

[Anonymous No.]

>>42340130
this is the best way. it works the same with learning any language. learn the absolute basic things you need to be able to properly read, and then just read that shit homeboy and do not stop until you're fluent. of course including listening practice etc, and speaking.

[Anonymous No.]

No
But it shouldn't really matter
Just study instead of searching for ways to study

[Anonymous No.]

>>42340700
>>42341118
Both good advice, thanks anons, I'll keep pushing through

[Anonymous No.]

Just going off the headers in that image, because I'm not going to bother reading it all, it seems like a pretty solid way of going about things and similar to what I've been doing more or less spontaneously/naturally.

I've basically just been reading untranslated VN's for the past year and a half or so, while also reviewing new vocabulary and only very recently started learning individual kanji/ actual (hand) writing. I can now read the average moege pretty well without having to rely on software like textractor, and I can mostly watch anime without subs, read random manga doujins etc

If I can give you any piece of advice, I'd say it's just finding something you enjoy doing in Japanese and not worry to much about what's 'fastest/most efficient'. For a language like Japanese it's much more important to keep yourself engaged/not burn out.

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>>42341725
>>42341725
Nice, that's actually a pretty cool way of learning. I bought a bunch of PS1 and PS2 games last time I was in Japan with the intention of using them to learn to read but they all seem to use complicated words that I haven't even begun to learn. Planning to learn 1000 words and 1000 kanji before I give them another go

[Anonymous No.]

According to my expenrience it's a common mistake to understimate the basic grammar. Focus on grammar first and above all, hira and kata are easy to learn and you're gonna learn a lot of basic kanji (and hira) just working on grammar anyway. Once you're good, go heavy on anki and try to read easy stuff to master the whole thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42340130
You learned your first language by absorbing whatever your parents said to you
Just do the same thing for Japanese
Get a Japanese mom

[Anonymous No.]

>>42346709
I think it might be easier to go for some manga with furigana or VN's first before trying those, just because you're going to encounter a lot of words you don't know regardless of those first 1000 or so words you learned, and it's a lot easier to look things up if you can use specialized software like textractor and so on.
>>42346735
I think it's definitely important to know basic grammar, such as the most basic verb conjugations and the use of は、が、を、に、へ　and so on, but I don't think it's necessary/productive to focus on it until you reach a more intermediate level. Just learn enough to be able to start reading and then you'll gradually get a feel for the structure of the language.
>>42346758
What this anon said is unrealistic in a literal sense, but the importance of (audio) input which it somewhat echoes is correct in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42348368

Without a good grammar you're not gonna read, you're just gonna guess the meaning of the sentence. And that's bad. Focus on grammar OP, trust me.

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>>42348514
>Without a good grammar
yet you display a poor understanding of grammar while understanding the meaning of my post?

You're not going to fully grasp everything without first encountering things many times anyways, regardless of how meticulously you study grammar in isolation.

Guessing the meaning of sentences is not only not bad but unavoidable as a beginner, this is where the context and pictures in manga come in to aid you. Don't be afraid not to understand everything and just focus on quantity of input and enjoying yourself. Trying to understand every little thing will just make your reading speed extremely sluggish and the process as a whole tedious.