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42339618 No.42339618 [Reply] [Original]

Canonically, "Daiyousei" is a mischievous fairy who has two definite, undisputed appearances and in those two appearances she teleports around and/or shoots you in the face. Like most fairies, she's a playful, awful, piece of shit.

What the fuck happened in fanon?

>> No.42339641

>>42339618
She plays the foil for cirno so naturally she ended up being the more docile of the duo, its not exactly rocket surgery

>> No.42339832

>>42339641
She has no noted relationship with Cirno in any work, other than Cirno allegedly impromptu leading all the fairies, including her, into chaos and violence over Misty Lake.

She isn't a foil other than in fanworks, which, I guess it's because people are lazy and simple?

>> No.42339883

Also there's this, from ZUN himself
http://web.archive.org/web/20040404190222/http://www16.big.or.jp/~zun/cgi-bin/diary/nicky.cgi?page=1#20040112A
妖精は人間以下の存在ですが、その中でも力のある者が大妖精です。
その性格は他の妖精と変わらず、陽気でいたずら好き。単純で表情豊かです。
>Fairies are lesser than humans, but the most strongest of them would be the BIG fairies (Daiyousei).
>Her personality just like any other fairy's: cheerful and mischievous. She's simple and expressive.

She's been done dirty in fanworks by making her a typical demure, shy, whatever character

>> No.42341970
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>>42339832
false! In the Three Fairies manga, Daiyousei was playing hide-and-seek with Cirno. and also Daiyousei is one of the fairies that faces Okina, along with Cirno. In addition, in many official manga Daiyousei appears in the background with Cirno.

>> No.42341977
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>>42339641
This.

>> No.42342923

>>42341970
It's not really "false" since we don't know who that fairy is. Given all the mangaka are largely left to their own devices with a vague ZUN, according to them, it's not certain whether "frivolous details" were his intention. That's how you get Lily White and "Lily Black" in the same shot "canonically" even though they're literally the same person.

Even in Strange Creators of Outer World, they only mark EoSD and GFW as her official appearances https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Strange_Creators_of_Outer_World/Who%27s_Who_of_Humans_%26_Youkai_in_Gensokyo/Daiyousei,_Koakuma_and_Lily_White
Regardless, literally none of those appearances ever show her as shy or anything. The closest argument would be that one you posted, all fairies except for Clownpiece quake and tremble at the sight of Reimu.

>> No.42342932

>>42342923
So what you're saying is:canon works aren't canon because I say so
Right. Go fuck yourself, retard

>> No.42342954

>>42342932
>So what you're saying is:canon works aren't canon because I say so
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that nothing has ever said that the fairy we see there sometimes is "daiyousei", even in the work that tells you what appearances are official. I'm also saying even if they are official, they're insignificant toward the "she's a demure fairy" narrative as they don't support it. As for a relationship with Cirno, Cirno's said to have a relationship with all fairies on the lake, including Daiyousei, as their "leader".
Lastly ZUN did indeed outright say "Lily Black" is Lily White cosplaying (but visually in a manga they're in the same place in one scene), has said that the weapons the Lunarian sisters had depicted weren't what he imagined, and has, according to Aya and himself, an incredibly light touch with art direction.

Why are you mad

>> No.42343002

>>42342954
You're being disingenuous, the fairy is daiyousei because she has the same design as daiyousei and different from other daiyousei as they show up later in the manga at the end during the okina battle. Yes the 'daiyousei being docile and cirnos gentler half' is entirely fanon. Just because there's a few artistic miscommunications in other manga doesn't invalidate daiyousei appearing in others nor that she's friends with cirno or exists.
You're trying too hard, unless zun goes out of his way to explicitly say daiyousei wasn't there in the three fairies manga and that they have nothing to do with each other she was there and is friends with cirno

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>>42343002
I'm not trying hard at all, I'm just listing the facts and you're taking them harshly.

To be honest, I was surprised that SCoOW did not mention these appearances because it doesn't neglect to mention a lot of other minor things.

>> No.42343055

>>42343030
To be fair I was the anon that said "false!"
But I fucking love fairies, Daiyousei exists and thats the end of that.

>> No.42343060

>>42343055
>wasn't
Woops spelling mistake, was not the original anon

>> No.42348020
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>>42342923
>all fairies except for Clownpiece quake and tremble at the sight of Reimu.
Clownpiece fears the oni miko as much as any other fairy, really.
The only fairies we know that fought Reimu directly are Cirno and Lily White, and Lily probably just got so excited by what she thinks is spring that she doesn't even realize who she's going up against.

>> No.42348723

>>42348020
>fought Reimu directly
*repeatedly

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>>42342923
>>42342954
I'm saying that nothing has ever said that the fairy we see there sometimes is "daiyousei"
Daiyousei = 大妖精)

>> No.42351751
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>>42342923 #
>>42342954 #
>I'm saying that nothing has ever said that the fairy we see there sometimes is "daiyousei"
Daiyousei = 大妖精

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>>42339618
I wonder how many times has Daichan twirled her tongue inside Cirno's cunny while she slept

>> No.42352435
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>>42352213
Never. Cirno is a good girl who would never engage in such an act of degeneracy.

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>>42352435
Hence why Daiyousei waits for cirno to eat so she can slip in the sleeping pills.
>>42352213
That is a perfectly normal amount of obsession for cirno, in fact some could say its not enough!

>> No.42352805

Is the fairy queen Titiana around?

>> No.42352823

>>42348020
One day, Lily will get too excited and accidentally kill Reimu.

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Her name is Lemontene

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Three yousei on their way to meet the new girl!

>> No.42367282

Lemontene bump

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