/tmg/ - Type-Moon General

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A place for discussion of the great works by Kinoko Nasu / TYPE-MOON.

>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Mahoutsukai no Yoru:
https://nyaa.si/view/1611543
Mahoutsukai no Yoru PC:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/177wSYqWfOpH_4AsGzY27sZOs8y84GWa9
English Patch (Partial):
https://mega.nz/folder/dBkXjbaa#e3rJvGTb9PT7TFVwjk-2ww
French Patch:
https://github.com/IDerr/mahoyo-french
Italian Patch:
https://riffourtranslations.wordpress.com/category/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

>Kara no Kyoukai
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (Japanese):
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/shousetu/b/奈須きのこ_空の境界/index.html
Kara no Kyoukai Novel (English):
https://nyaa.si/view/1414316
Kara no Kyoukai Animated Films:
https://nyaa.si/view/264295
Kara no Kyoukai Manga:
https://nyaa.si/view/1187963

>Tsukihime
Tsukihime VN Collection:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3439039
Shingetsutan Tsukihime Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn

>Tsukihime Remake
Tsukihime Remake:
https://pastebin.com/QSz8A5Jf
English Patch (Arcueid Route):
https://tsukihimates.com

>Melty Blood
Melty Blood PC Collection:
https://nyaa.si/view/1042489
Melty Blood Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qfSckM1X-oLSl8DPCk9GqOydRRH5UjEq
Melty Blood - Back Alley Alliance Nightmare Manga:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/16jgRv-WneCDBF324U_MFsuguPFTt2J0S
Melty Blood - Type Lumina:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1372280/MELTY_BLOOD_TYPE_LUMINA/
Melty Blood - Type Lumina Community Translation Patch:
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9302-Melty-Blood-Type-Lumina-Community-Translation-Patch

>Fate
Fate/Stay Night [Réalta Nua] Ultimate Edition:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3748986
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/9101-Fate-Stay-Night-Realta-Nua-Ultimate-Edition-2022
Fate/Hollow Ataraxia:
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/2575055
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/7705-Fate-Hollow-Ataraxia-Voice-Patch
Fate/Spinoffs:
https://pastebin.com/Vgy14rSK

>Other Type-Moon Works
Angel Voice / Notes:
https://www.mediafire.com/file/4w9jk2bwy8b0xsh/Angel_Notes.zip/file
Fire Girl:
https://firegirlthetranslation.wordpress.com
Mahou Tsukai no Hako: Starlit Marmalade Manga:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/y68oxcrmg8i6k/Sutamamo
Tsuki no Sango:
https://www.mediafire.com/?uq1eqhccbxhxktx
Tsuki no Sango Manga:
https://mangadex.org/chapter/773842/1
Haru to Tsuki to Sora to:
https://mega.nz/file/xlVwGY4K#170GaRCpftfOJXtBjbF1BYu3cNUaiM6aOJLWEkhLyKs

>Type-Moon Miscellaneous
Encyclopedia of Type-Moon:
https://mega.nz/folder/oM8EhIjQ#IAVmHGdLnalCs0B5mRhzRQ
Type-Moon Comic Ace:
https://web-ace.jp/tmca
TMdict Glossary:
https://www.tmdict.com
Tsuki-kan (comprehensive record of real-world statements, interviews, Q&As, feature articles, etc):
https://www.tsukikan.com
Tsukihime Archives:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1NBqMPjBkGiNk9vIgOtPyjNnpxeH5fmHI
Tsukihime Tokuhon:
https://exhentai.org/g/82076/173f6680ef
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru complementary short story):
https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8887-An-Adventure-of-First-Love-%28Mahoutsukai-no-Yoru-Short-Story%29-Translation

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>>42336180
My wife

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>>42335859
>what do you guys think
Very sus...
>42335468
We have that Arc whiteboard meme that arose like right around when retards were trying to say Tsukihime has nothing to discuss.

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I always see anons mentioning a True Arc route. Did I miss out on something? Are we getting a part 3 after Red Garden?

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For those who asked about Nasu plans. He spoke of FGO part 3 possibility. That aside:
>lb7 is not yet relaesed full
And we have:
>U Olga secret chapter
>confrontation with Chaldean
>Fuyuki
>Chaldea hq finale maybe

Plus:
>Beast VI in mobage (l/r)
>the fuck is beast v (unless kuku merges (back?) with ort and gets that)

So 3 years min.

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>>42338064
Nasu stated in an interview when people were wondering why Arc only had one ending, saying another ending for her will happen eventually. We just don't know when.

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Miyako sex

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>>42338537

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>>42338238
Didn’t he say he would stop after 7?

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>>42338064
It's also teased a bunch in the game itself.

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Bros, I don't know about you, but this drought of Tsuki content is unbearable. Why are we treated like this by Nasu?

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>>42338238
olgashit will be done by the end of the month
chaldeashit will be the last chapter
fuyukishit is either literally nothing or part 3
beastshit is irrelevant and could just as well be stuffed into sakurai's game if they need to

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>>42339233
Imagine being a Tsukihime fan since 2008. You don't know how bad things really were.

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>>42339233
>>42339325
Someone post the followup picture

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>>42339336
Top kek. I wonder where kj1980 is now.

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>>42339233
>>42339325
>>42339336
>Tsukihime
>2000
>Tsukihime REmake
>2021

What was the wait for the remake like?

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>>42339508
I cut myself off from any TM news and content in 2016, only came back to it in 2021.

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>>42339002
He said he was done after part 2, not LB7 specifically.

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>>42339563
*sits down*
Fuck

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>>42339432
he lived.

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>>42339987
There it is. I didn't have this screenshot saved for some reason. thanks anon

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>>42339987
>Playing fgo
That's how he lived then

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Unironically what did she mean by this?
Is she guessing that Shirou had a sex dream about her and jacked off?
Or is she just talking about masturbating in general, like Shirou is the kind who does it? Which is stupid because it implies there are teenage boys who don't wank.

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>>42340334
>Which is stupid because it implies there are teenage boys who don't wank.
But do them all wank to the girl they like?

>Is she guessing that Shirou had a sex dream about her and jacked off?
Yes.
I’m gonna be honest with you, chief, I don’t remember this scene very well, but IIRC Shirou was acting kind of awkward around her and she managed to tell in one that he had had lewd thoughts about her… I think.

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>>42339987
>so mindbroken by TM abandoning Tsuki that he became a gachanigger
many such cases

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>>42340378
>IIRC Shirou was acting kind of awkward around her
Yeah, they shake hands and Shirou has a flash of the sex dream he had and pulls away, and Tohsaka gets a knowing look and goes "I thought you were experienced but you're actually not, huh?"

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>>42340334
She doesn't say anything about a wet dream. She just correctly guessed that Shirou has masturbated to *her* specifically.

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>>42339240
>olgashit will be done by the end of the month
We don't know.
>chaldeashit will be the last chapter
The Chaldean will most likely be before the last chapter with Galahad.
>fuyukishit is either literally nothing or part 3
Nah, Chaldean and Galahad could be in Fuyuki, but Chaldea HQ should be the last. And we're on speed of 1 chapter a year, plus a filler.

>beastshit is irrelevant
one of the mysteries is that u olga isn't beast vii at the beginning.
And Beast VI R/L is set up, as a filler.
Three years minimum.

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>>42339002
He changed his mind. Read his latest interview in Famitsu. He talks about continuing the story but will have the players choose if "continues Chaldea's story or a new story" for whatever comes after part 2.

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>>42340494
You may think it an unthinkable notion, but fans of some authors, writers, musicians, movie makers and so on may consume all the works they make, gachas are no different.
Rather than doing whatever this drivel is that you've imagined in your head.

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>>42340584
blindly consuming anything an artist or producer makes without regards for quality makes you a retard

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>>42340651
A fair point, and yet.
You're not fancying yourself some keen eyed pop art connoisseur?

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>>42340584
Some people have favorites. It's like when you get too much of one food, eventually you begin to hate it.

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I play FGO but I stopped caring about the story around LB2. Now I just skip every story sequence and only hoard saint quartz. I have paid $0.00. I'm arguably worse than a gachafaggot because I'm just addicted to seeing number go up and rolling for SSRs. But the story and characters are so dull that I could really give less of a shit about the game's actual narrative.

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>>42340677
>It's like when you get too much of one food
Only when lacking in wisdom. Some enjoy liking the same thing without end.

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>>42340676
>You're not fancying yourself some keen eyed pop art connoisseur?
Not that anon but I am a keen eyed pop art connoisseur.

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>>42340678
I never played this game and never will. I don't want to support it. I do care about the lore and the story, however.

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>>42340678
>>42340795
Which one is worse?

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>>42340795
I won’t ever play it either. I won’t support it and I don’t care about any lore it generates unless it goes in a future VN, official manga or decent anime.

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>>42338273
That wasn't said. He just went out of his way to mention Arc only having one ending when asked about Shiki's power up. Coupled with in game hints in Melty and Re it seems inevitable.

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>>42340919
both are bad but i will give the first guy some credit for realizing how stupid and shit fgo is story wise

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I play FGO, remain f2p aside of two of the initial jew gachas in JP. I think it's a fun romp with moments of brilliance and completely harmless since we know Nasu's issue isn't FGO but Nasu being an unprofessional hack with delays and has the attention span of a goldfish. Tsukihime had delays before FGO even existed.

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Replace your mobile device with a freetard phone so FGO and other harmful proprietary gambling software won't work on it.

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>>42340965
>あと皆さん，アルクェイドのルートが一つしかないことに疑問を持っていると思いますが……それもまた，いずれということで。
He stated it will happen eventually. Which comment are you reading?

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>>42338238
Their production and development of FGO is so horrible I doubt they really care how it's received. Nasu will probably take time off to work on other shit after this chapter and let his servants handle it or something. Wouldn't be out of the norm if everything got rushed into one or two final chapters either or dragged out for another 5 years.

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>>42340962
I care about the lore because it contributes to the wider world of TM. And sometimes there are nice tidbits.

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>all of these people admitting to being invested into FGO in some form or another
I always knew you were a tsundere, /tmg/

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>>42341039
Gachatards all deserve the rope. Nasu too.

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>>42341016
>Confirmed second Ending/Route
I also think we will but aren't you reading into that line too much?

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>>42340683
It's the difference between the $150 steak prepared by a world class chef and the burger scraped off the floor at Mickey D's. It's better to become a vegan instead of consuming filth that will rot you from the inside out.

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me on the right

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>>42341039
FGO has given me a lot of entertainment, akin to watching trashy afternoon TV, if I'm being honest. Last year in particular was pretty good when frog had a week long meltdown devolving into full cope after castorias mats dropped and they all took the opportunity to turn on one another.

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>>42341039
Castoria good

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>>42341379
Castoria eroi

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>>42341031
>I care about the lore because it contributes to the wider world of TM
Even though the lore it contributes is bad?

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>>42339508
honestly wasn't that bad but that's only because I pretty much stopped caring about Type Moon after Actress Again and Kara no Kyoukai so I wasn't actively waiting for it and stopped caring it would ever come out

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>>42341144
This comparison doesn't mesh well with gacha games.
Unlike terrible food, a gacha is just an embellished money making mechanism.
But unlike a slot machine, while it provides no monetary gain to you, it, if nothing else, can look fancy and leave minor goods like voice overs, pictures or sprites which one can download for free anyway.
It can be easily handled without any addiction, easily turned on or off, or disregarded entirely.
It's not filth like you dramatize, just a glorified slot machine, those are usually harmless (barring atypical designs), so long as you don't let them harm you.
Now that they don't spend the money they've earned to make actual games or anime, that is disappointing. Even Lucas was intelligent enough to actually invest.

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>>42342348
>Harmless
It runs off a predatory monetization system designed to breed addiction in the young and vulnerable as well as rip people off. Being able to just not play it or do it 'free' doesn't change what it is at its core. And while not 'harmful', overt flanderization itself is shit if you love the content being bastardized.
The best part are those who think they're wasting of money on shit that doesn't tangibly exist entitles them to something. I don't know how some people are going to cope when the eventuality of EOS rolls around.

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>>42342730
Naturally.

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>>42341835
Why after those in particular?

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>>42343383
The CG we were denied

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>>42343421
Takeuchi hates curry and french people confirmed.

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You know, it's a bit silly and I'm sure some of you would frown upon it, but I sometimes wish some of the bigger streamers I follow would just make a playthrough of TsukiRe or Mahoyo or even the FSN VN. I guess I would enjoy to see those people play these things.
...Although they are all faggots who are too lost into ironizing shit to seem funny to ever truly appreciate something, so maybe it's better it doesn't happen.

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>>42342730
Everyone should watch that seminar where the guy is teaching people how to monetize vidya and produce chemical releases to form habits, etc lol. The scumbags have it down to a literal science.

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>>42343507
>following streamers
the absolute state of /tmg/

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>>42343533
At least,
>Although they are all faggots who are too lost into ironizing shit to seem funny to ever truly appreciate something
anon seems to know who worthless it is.

>>42343527
I'll be damned, those cucks... I should probably take notes, even if only to apply that to force myself to create habits to make studying nip easier.

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>>42343507
How many streamers are interesting enough to hold an audience while reading a VN? Maybe a couple should get together and hold a dramatic reading. Try suggesting that but it might be too much work for retards.

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https://twitter.com/UdonMangoD/status/1612982295547498497?s=20

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>>42343553
>How many streamers are interesting enough to hold an audience while reading a VN?
NTA, but it's happened before.

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>>42343612
"VNs" like Ace Attorney, Danganronpa, ZTD, 999, Hotel Dusk etc. are in a different league from traditional VNs though. For one, they have mainstream appeal and moment-to-moment gameplay with a lot of twists and turns to keep the player engaged. Part of this is because all of those franchises started off as portable system games, which requires a completely different form of pacing than traditional game systems.

The only traditional VN with mainstream appeal I can think of is something like Steins;Gate. It shares the same kind of pacing as all of the other games I listed out, and it has save scumming gameplay mechanics that tie into its time travel narrative even though YU-NO did this first but I don't see any mainstream love for YU-NO nowadays

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https://twitter.com/jueeaki/status/1613154478009757696?s=46&t=8eiaDwfFO_wE5y0Uo78yzQ

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vljHDKj0F4

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>>42343612
>VN

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>>42343827
Point and click shit is on the same level of "gameplay" as picking choices so it counts as VN to me.

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>>42343827
Let me guess, you don't think Baldr Sky is a >VN either.

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>>42343827
>he doesn't know the history of classic Japanese adventure games.

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>>42343955
Then call it an adv.

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F/SN was TM's first adventure game
>b-but
F/SN was about collecting all of the Tiger Stamps. If you didn't collect all of the Stamps, you missed the point of the game.

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>>42344119
VNs are a subset of adventure games.

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I love my wife Neco Arc

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VNs are games

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>>42343533
>he doesn't watch Rider's VA streams

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>>42344365
If they actually do real artistic work and not just be streaming e-whores for a living, they don't count as a "streamer".

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Hey, /tmg/, just to be sure, none of you guys has a youtube channel named "Fa", right?

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>>42344365
I'll only watch it when she streams either FSN, FHA,Tsukihime or TsukiRe

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Take me back bros… https://youtu.be/eqMZLaN3Bdo

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>>42344961
So that's the source of THAT Gil gif

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>>42343527
It's great and all, but you're late to this sort of exploitative optimizations by about almost a century concerning modern media, longer than that concerning casinos, and a few thousand years concerning other things. It's nothing new.

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>>42345107
Saber and the rest moving like that in the second half of the video was real weird.

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All of /tmg/

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>>42344961
This made me depressed. Thanks.

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>>42340678
Every time I try to read FGO I regret wasting time on it.

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>>42342749
saw the writing on the wall. While it was before FGO they were still shilling the crap out of Fate spin offs (I like Fate to be clear) and it was evident that the company has changed.

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>>42346051
I too knew TM had changed when they released Mahoyo.

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https://mangadex.org/title/39299774-f33e-47c0-89d5-9fc12621e893/mahoutsukai-no-yoru

cute.

>>42344961
Here is a Noel/TsukihimeRE MAD

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>>42346712
forgot link https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm41197391?nicorepotwitter_mylist_video

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>>42346712
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm41197391
Only showing up in low quality kek. Oh well.

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>>42345117
Always worth bringing up when the topic swings to it on the chance someone who wasn't aware is saved or at least more cognizant of what they're being subjected to.

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>>42344961
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpEEDMvWiEU&t=573s

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Do Arcueid exist in Fate worlds?

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>>42349574
I see no reason as to why she wouldn’t.

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>>42349574
Unconfirmed but probably not.

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I finished Arcueid's remake route and I must say, I really enjoyed the new scenes featuring Sensei Arc, her fight with Vlov and the bullying of Arc for being a baka onna. I wish the route was longer by another 10 hours featuring completely new events, as much as I like the manga parts getting adopted into the VN.
Even though she got no new scenes Akiha still is the standout best girl.

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>>42349992
Nasu’s saving the manga ending once you clear the others. I do wonder if he’s going to change it or he just copies Sasaki’s idea, like what he did with the confession scene.

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>>42349921
Arc = CM.
We are told CM can't revive in Fate worlds. The difference between Fate and Tsukihime is whether CM is active or not. CM is already inactive in Tsukihime, the only way he could be even more inactive is if Arc doesn't exist.

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>>42350377
I expect a proper Arc vs Roa fight, some more elements, and a extended manga ending with more elaboration.

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>>42350414
During that dream scene in tohya, in the castle, that was CM, right?

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>>42336180
Artoria's muscular back sexo...

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>>42350432
Full-powered Roa would be kino but I feel like it’ll be a bigger Roa vs Shiki showdown, since the remake has been building him up as what Kirei is to Shirou. Like something about the Ciel Route dream sequence where Roa says that Shiki truly has something that would make him his perfect rival but he currently doesn’t have the capacity to be one before he disappears. I could just be reading too much into it though or it just references his fight in Arc’s route.

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Need Rin pubes

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Arc needs more content.

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>>42350463
Not technically, more like a different aspect of Arc that represents CM's action ideology.

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>>42350482
>it just references his fight in Arc’s route
It doesn't.

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>>42350506
Archetype Earth specifically needs more content. There’s a lot of interesting stuff in the dream sequence in KT. Shiki seemingly knowing her fate and vowing he’ll save her in her castle. Then apparently she know possesses Real of The World for some reason? Hard to think Nasu just pulled it out of his ass and decides to leave it as it is. Nasu you teasing fuck.

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>>42350506
Wait for LB7 part 2 bro

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>>42350528
Thought so. It’s just too out of the blue if it just simply references Arc’s route. Plus he said there’s a proper reason why he was able to kill the corridor along with Roa’s legs so Shiki’s eyes probably got a huge power up. I can only see him revealing it in an all out fight, basically when a full-powered Roa or DAAs are involved.

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I want Souji to tell Aoko that she can run away once in a while. Or that she doesn’t have to bear it all alone.

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>>42350607
Oh wow, I just realized that Aoko does know that lesson now. Since she tells Shiki that it would’ve been fine for him to run away from his responsibilities with his eyes. Man I need another talk with Aoko about what Souji taught her or something like that with Shiki.

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>>42350581
I want to know if Roa's plan is even going to lead anywhere. It has too much foreshadowing and hints for it to not get any kind of payoff.

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>>42350624
He has another basement aside from the school, no? The hospital has considerably more damaged in Ciel’s route because Arc found Roa early. While in Arc’s route, it’s left unscathed or isn’t as damaged.

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>>42350482
>Roa says that Shiki truly has something that would make him his perfect rival but he currently doesn’t have the capacity to be one before he disappears
I think you're misunderstanding what he said. He says that Shiki has a rival/enemy who he can face just for his own sake, not for anyone else's, and that enemy wasn't Roa.
I think Dantes references the same enemy in Type Lumina.

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>>42350669
>The hospital has considerably more damaged in Ciel’s route because Arc found Roa early.
But Ciel and Shiki find Roa's dead body under the school.

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Shiki's rival is Kouma, no?
Provided he will be in, of course.

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>>42350732
That would make sense. Another candidate who's unique to the remake is whoever's behind the hospital massacre.

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>>42350698
Dantes also references Arc’s reunion with Shiki. For some reason, he seems keen in trying to get a conversation with her.

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Why are certain portions of Mahoyo in first person but it's mainly written in third?

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>>42350869
to emphasize the thoughts of the person in question

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>>42350869
I generally noticed the story being in first person for Aoko to empathize her importance to the story while the rest were in third person.

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>>42350869
The same reason interludes in FSN are written in third person.
To put emphasis on something being told at the moment, in this case, said character’s thoughts.

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>>42350607
If I may make a bet, I would wager this happens in Mahoyo 3 when Soujuurou finally meets his bad end, and he has to convince Aoko *not* to become god to save him.

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should I read FBates UBW for the meme

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>>42351248
No, do something more productive with your time and learn Japanese or read Notes.

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>>42351248
cripes

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>>42351248
It's your life, anon.

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>>42351248
Sure. Post the funny stuff on here or interesting stuff.

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>>42351184
Nah, I think he’ll survive somehow. Probably return back to the mountains and be forgotten by everyone as a consequence.

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What if Olga is the true appearance of Earth's Brain? Arc and Altrouge were modeled after CM. I think about the Princess of Tsuki Sango who is artificially Moon Brain and it has a resemblance to Arc, and Arc's being the Moon Princess, so her connection to Earth is due to CM's successful invasion.

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>>42351866
What's most likely is Earth can't make an UO without the moon due to the moon being originally part of the Earth in the past.

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>>42338537
>>42338629
Why does she look like a lol version of Rin?

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>>42352254
Why do most characters have Saber face?

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I am watching the HF Spring Song movie, skipping to Kirei vs TA and Zouken, turning off the audio and putting on "Church on the Hill" and no one can stop me!

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>>42350698
I don't remember him saying that at all. Roa has like 2 lines. Doesn't it go like In Arc he says something like Shiki lacks something to be his opponent and in Ciel says something like Shiki was the only one who could be but didn't hold the intent to kill him until the end right? I don't think they're really referencing the same thing or serve as a call back unless it's from a meta angle. I do feel like Roa is certainly being set up for a larger encounter with Shiki though.

Dantes mentions a fated opponent whose too much while contemplating whether Shiki's ignorance is a sin or liberation. My first thought was Roa but it comes off as super weird considering Dantes kills Roa(As far as Roa ever really die in MB lol) and think it probably foreshadows either Kouma(Absolute Monster. Their clan was the Nanaya of the demons and he was the masterwork. A being of destruction and death. Kiri even foreshadows the rivalry) or CM(Obvious and KT sets up Shiki challenging CM to recover Arc. By force and as an inevitability.) because it references Shiki's ignorance. I think the ignorance either is in the meaning of
"You don't realize your destiny. Is it better that way?" or "You don't remember what happened to you so you're free from vengeance." Either way I expect all 3 of these things to happen eventually lol since they're all established. If Nasu lives long enough.

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Do we have any notes on Nasu's thought process when writing Mahoyo? At times it's amazing, but the whole plot feels a bit sloppy and short. Or maybe it's just it being a very intense production that caused it to feel so rushed at times?

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>>42354600
Short sure, but that's not a bad thing. What do you mean by sloppy?

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>>42351866
Olga is surely the most artificial of artificial whatever she turns out to be.

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>>42352143
Makes a lot of sense. I didn't even realize that was a real hypothesis for the Moons formation.

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>>42354605
I guess the smaller stuff like Father Eiri being introduced sooner so his random appearance neat the end doesn't feel as ham-fisted. A side chapter to explain more of the story would've been nice instead of Aoko having to explain the whole chapter while on the bed. The whole story feels a bit unfocused until chapter 9. It's not bad, but I guess I wanted some more focus on the main plot and the smaller characters like the church people getting a bit more focus instead of Eiri showing up close to the end and having a deep talk with Souji. Some more building to their characters and their relationship would've been nice.

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>>42354694
church characters in mahoyo may as well don't exist. shroom probably intended to expand more on them in the sequels, but alas.

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I want Tohno-kun to stab my dot. I'm tired of living among humans.

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>>42354765
that doesn't really work when you meet both sisters early on though. Why not have a chapter with Aoko and Alice meeting Eiri and the other church members and talking about the rogue mage invading the area? You can build their relationship and history there naturally. It just feels like Nasu put too much focus on school stuff and the other characters that area from the school over key important characters that matter to the main plot.

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>>42354778
Just go and get bit by Satsuki and becoming a DA.

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>>42354575
I think these are the two lines being referenced:
Arc's route: 「そうだ。君は私の敵にはなりえない。性能の差を言っているのではない。殺害が可能か不可能かの喩えでもない。君にはある一点において、私を敵にする真理が欠けている」
This is followed by Shiki saying that literally everything else Roa says is bullshit not worth remembering, but he shouldn't forget this one thing in particular.
Ciel's route: 「ええ。私の役目は終わりました。唯一残念なのは、君では私の敵になりえなかった事ですね。この地上でただひとり私を殺せる手段を有していながら、君には致命的に殺意が欠けていた。だからこんな風に、私の<遺言|ことば>を長々と聞いている」...「私ではありませんでしたが、貴方にはいますよ。他人の人生の為ではなく、自分の人生の為に使われる敵意。ただ己が"そうであれ"と望む、明確な仇敵がね」
I think what he says at the end about Shiki being capable of 敵意 for his own sake and not for someone else's, i.e. Arc, is the important thing, and that's also what he's implying in the Arc route quote: that Shiki is someone who got wound up in this story about vampires that goes back centuries, but it's not Shiki's story. Shiki has his own story and his own enemy.

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>>42354799
It's kind of mysterious/vague imo. I do think the end of the line in Ciel True could be foreshadowing someone else while it also feels like it could be a nod to something between them in the future or even a call back to the differences between Arc and Ciel route since Shiki goes super murderhobo on Roa there. I also can't not see a showdown with Super Roa in AT especially if he's connected to the vampire shit in Shiki's past at the hospital.

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Do people think that Aoko's hair is red is due to the red shadow fusing with Aoko and being a part of her that's shown to everyone? Like another aspect of Aoko being accepted into her?

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>>42354952
It's so Nasu could joke that Aoko and Akiha look the same.

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>>42354971
I'll accept my head canon. Man trying to get a Mahoyo discussion on here is rough lmao.

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>>42354783
Not exactly a correct analogy but I feel like the church side in mahoyo is similar to sakura on fate/ubw routes. If someone only read through the fate route, what would they think of sakura? I'd agree with you if mahoyo were supposed to be a complete package with no sequels planned. The problem is we just don't know the full scope of things right now. Maybe he didn't want to emphasize them too much in the first game because of the roles they would play later on and get the SoL school stuff out of the way, who knows.

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>>42354952
Considering her red hair mode is canonically called "Redshift" it's probably related to her time powers

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>>42355010
that doesn't really work for Mahoyo since it's a kinetic story that doesn't have choices or routes. It just feels like Nasu ran out of time due to the game being delayed for a bit. He could've had a chance to write more side chapters to help expand on the other characters and Alice a bit, but he focused on the school characters. I love 8.5 for Souji, don't get me wrong, but some more side chapters could've helped.

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>>42355042
>some more side chapters could've helped
As things still stand now with no sequels in the foreseeable future, I absolutely agree.

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>>42354991
If you want to get a discussion going you must first present arguable points. If you just post your headbands, people will at best throw in a joke or two.

Here, let me help you:
Why do you think that? What is it that she would be showing others by fusing with shadow? What is the part of her that it represents? Why does she keep it hidden? How could such a development come about and how does it tie in to the themes of Mahoyo?
Remake your post but add all that, and I assure you at least one faggot will try to discuss at least one of the aspects written down.

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>>42354952
>>42355014
why did her hair return to normal after using the magic?

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>>42355095
I would wager the red hair is either something she only gets in the future (for reasons) or is something she only gets when her body is actively connected to the root/under the effect of magic (and as we know, she stops aging at 20, so it's safe to assume she's constantly under the effect of magic in the future, hence the constant red).

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>>42355088
>headbands
I think you meant headcanons...

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>>42355088
I think the red shadow and hair in general is supposed to represent Aoko fully accepting her role as a Magician that freely does what she wants as both someone that has her responsibilities as a mage and the freedom to do what she wants in general by travelling the world and helping people like Shiki. She tells Souji that someone is always watching you which speaks to the ego of a person which he lacks. Aoko has that as the red shaodw being manifested from herself as her doubts and fears that are fully accepted once she uses her Fifth Magic.

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>>42355176
The red hair *could* possibly mean freedom and a change in personality, but I doubt the red shadow itself represents her fears and doubts.
It is a being that solely forbids the use of magic and has been with Aoko since well before she even knew what True Magic was.

If we are talking about it representing anything at all, I would pin it down more on it representing her own humanity or rather its loss. As long as the shadow exists and she fears it, that means she is still in the realm of a normal human, and can still go back and life such a life, but the instant it disappears and she no longer thinks about it, she has abandoned her humanity and fully embraced that which is "the enemy of humanity" and "an undeniable sin".
Of course, canonically, it is merely a being that has been around since she was a child, and is intent on preventing magicians-to-be from becoming fully fledged, even though it doesn't seem to want to take action if possible. But if I wanted to *push* I could say that ever since the day the cats died (and the slow and secret magi upbringing her grandfather gave her(even if only behavioral and mental)) had began to worn away at her humanity, and that's why she was able to see it, with the reason it was so far away being because she had *just* began to lose her humanity, and as she grew older and more magi-like, the closer it got.

I suppose the real question here should be about the truth behind the shadow's existence.
If it is a being from the counterforce, how did it know Aoko would be a magician way before it happened? And why is it opperating in such a weird way? Why did it allow Aoko to unleash the fifth when she tried to heal Soujuurou, despite it being pissed to hell and back.

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>>42354934
That hospital incident wasn't related to Shiki was it? Or maybe it's part of the memory that was erased. Either way it doesn't seem like a meaningful memory was formed there.

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>>42354792
sounds like a horrible way to die and live

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>>42354792
How do you think the whole Sacchin plotline will be handled? I doubt she'd go insane and start murdering people like she did in OG. Shiki would probably save her from reaching that point but I wonder if there will be a solution to keep her vampiric impulses at bay or if it's going to have a tragic ending. I hope not!

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>>42340584
>gachas are no different
Someone needs to visit a gas chamber.

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>>42355318
>If it is a being from the counterforce, how did it know Aoko would be a magician way before it happened?
That scene ends with a pretty weird cut and afterwards Aoko says that the last 10 minutes were a total blank. Instead of her grandfather, maybe Aoko unknowingly managed to used the magic in a small scale herself and got shadow's attention from that point on. Something like this;
Aoko used magic - revived the cat - it's impossible to completely revive something - cat died - memories gone
Soujuurou is probably going to suffer the same fate sooner or later and her goal would be to somehow bypass that completely.

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>>42355530
Didn't we get a flashback to the events of those 10 minutes during chapter 13?
Aoko just began to act weird and say that her grandfather would pay for all the deaths and suffering. Might have just been mad because the cats died, but there might've also been some weird shit going on there.

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I just realized, with all the talk of becoming God when you touch the root, Aoko's words to Shiki when she said "God doesn't give us powers for no reason" might actually have some semblance of knowing truth to them.

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>>42355334
It's something that happens while Shiki is in hospital. Look at the scene in the hotel where Shiki sees Vlov bite into the neck of that woman.

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>>42354799
First one is obviously referencing Arc route because that’s only where Shiki shows a glimpse of his Nanaya blood against him. But I also don’t think this is the last he’ll see of Roa. There’s just too much foreshadowing about his ritual (
even in MBTL and Mario claiming he’ll return in Souya years after (Arc also getting some new power up dress which says it’s her appearance 3 years after a certain route in TsukiR).
As for the second one, I feel like this could be referencing to a lot of people. There’s no better person for Shiki to face other than Kouma, who was directly related to the massacre of his clan. Then there’s also Gouto whose identity remains unknown, but it’s safe to say he has a huge involvement with his family. Then there’s also a huge possibility that they’ll introduce a new enemy for him in Sacchin’s route. You also have to remember how Arc’s route ended. Shiki monologues that he’s not even sure he could live positively while pretending nothing happened. But he still let Arc go because he wanted to respect his wishes so in the end, he’s still sacrificing himself for other people’s wishes. He could be facing yet another enemy in Arc True (maybe CM like what KT foreshadows?) but he isn’t just doing it for her, but also his desire to live with her.

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Realistically how strong would Chris Chan be as a servant? He is the most documented being on history and is known with great contempt by millions and even more to come. That and the fact that he might be a Berserker should make him at least top 10 imo

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>>42355676
What do you mean when you say the first one references Arc's route?

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>>42339987
>52 Years Old
Reads Japanese Eroge and consumes gacha

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>>42355590
Oh yeah, the hospital is shown for a second or so. It's very subtle. The Dead shown afterwards are from the same place, right? Since Shiki never saw any dead aside from the burning ones up to that point.
So the stuff in that hospital was likely caused by vampires.

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>>42355742
Reading eroge is what thinking men do, but gacha is fake and gay.

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>>42355711
Too recent and modern, there would be not even close to enough mystery for a strong servant.
What's more, although Chris is known to an autistically degree to some people, it's a nieche comunity of internet dwellers, and if we're talking about fame, most politicians would be stronger than him and most of those are not even close to the throne.
The lack of any inherent abilities of worthwile fighting skills and capabilities also put him in a worthless position.

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>>42355742
Literally me

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>>42355748
Yeah it's a memory.
I think what triggers the flashback especially is the victim being an innocent girl. There's a bad end where DA Noel shows him an image from his past of a 16 year old girl being bitten that makes him freeze completely. This is probably something that happened at the hospital. There's even some speculation that it's the girl who first notices he's woken up in the prologue.
Other hospital hints include Shiki feeling like he only spent a month in hospital despite him staying for half a year, remembering how he saw a 'dream' of blood close to when he was meant to be discharged, and him wanting to get the fuck out when he looks around the hospital with Ciel.

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>>42355742
A lot of these older otaku tend to be based as fuck though. Usually at that age, people either grow out of their hobbies or kill themselves. This guy ascended beyond that point. Keep that in mind.

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>>42355735
My guess is where Shiki decides to throw humanity out of rage when Roa fatal blow on Arc. He and Roa are similar in that respect where Roa slowly loses himself and his humanity out of his desires to be with Arc. They’re also similar in a way their life turned upside down after meeting Arcueid, but unlike Roa who completely misunderstood his feelings until the very end (and met his ruin), Shiki was able to embrace his desires for her despite their differences and his denial at the beginning. Shiki obviously doesn’t have the drive to risk this much in Ciel’s route and he was still clinging to his humanity after Arc offered her to be her slave (in comparison to Arc’s route where he’s the one who proposes that idea). He understood who Roa is and sympathizes with him to an extent, but he doesn’t have the intention nor drive to make him his enemy.
Shiki and Roa are like two sides of the same coin. Their similarities have been foreshadowed since KT where he speaks with him in his dreams and meets Arc!CM.

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>>42355931
>Roa fatal blow
Roa does a fatal blow*

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>>42355977
What's she doing here?

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>>42356003
maybe her butt hurts

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>>42356040
from what?

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Curry Senpai!!
https://twitter.com/gsc_kahotan/status/1613734853736009728?s=46&t=n5G_FsxZA-Prc663dibK8w

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WILL BE
A SECONDARY
NO MORE

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>>42356207
good

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>>42356207
good, use magpie if you actually actually wanna play it in modern resolutions

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Cute

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So that’s where Tamano Cat came from

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>>42356207
Don't listen to that guy. Enjoy it in its original resolution

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>>42357042
The remastered iOS/Android backgrounds are the original renders at a higher resolution though. He should ignore both of you and just use the Ultimate Edition patch.

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Good gif of Kohaku https://twitter.com/hentai_amnoru/status/1613761420700811266?s=46&t=n5G_FsxZA-Prc663dibK8w

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>>42357096
>gifs
>on twitter

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>>42356496
is this an extra minigame or something?

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>>42355853
>>42355334
The memory is extremely significant to Shiki. It sends him off the deep end a few times. The trigger indeed seems to be a woman being devoured since everytime it happens it affects him. When it happened to Noel Shiki somehow managed to reach Vlov in time to save Noel despite it supposedly being impossible. Shiki's relationship with the vampire world is shaping up to be much more profound in Remake.

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>>42357653
Wonder how Shiki survived that. Think he inverted or someone intervened?

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>>42336180
secks...

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arcucks...

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>>42357994
These aren't supposed to have obvious lies.

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>>42357994
Anon I expect a lack of bias on this completely rational forum dedicated to high level artistic works.

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>Akiha confirmed by Shiki himself to be flat as a board
oh no no no akihabros what did he mean by this?

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>>42356207
>>42356433
play the ultimate edition. do you not know how to use nyaa

ultimate edition has 960p

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>>42357096
very good

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>>42357994
>Grand Saber is her sword
wat

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>>42359480
It reads as if he who shall not be nammed wrote it.

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>>42357994
is this the gook

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>>42358106
That means you can hold her closer to the heart.

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Does Shiki get better in Ciel's route? goddamn all this dude do is whine, tsundere isn't cute when a guy does it.

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>>42361422
He's only like that around Arc.

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>>42361422
Remake or Original? In original Shiki's fleshed out more in Far Side (Akiha, Hisui, Kohaku). In the remake he acts cute around Ciel. Either way, he's not really a tsundere outside of Arc and Arihiko.

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>>42361422
Male tsunderes are the best. No homo.

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>>42361422
He's a lot more honest in front of arc. That's good.

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>>42361422
He mostly gets better during his schizo moments

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>>42361755
>bites them real frequently

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Alright explain chapter 12 of Mahoyo to me like a baby. The hell did Aoko do and what was that dream of the desert with Aoko when using the Fifth magic.

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>>42362252
I feel like I got everything else for the most part, but I seriously have no idea what the fuck the desert had to do with anything.

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>>42362282
I think it’s her searching for how to save Souji and the red shadow being confused with what she was doing??

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>>42362252
The dream of the mountains was Soujuurou’s memories, the desert, in the other hand, was something to do with the Shadow.
It’s most likely the place it is reaching out to Aoko from, or at least, that’s what I think.

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>>42362315
But why specifically a desert? I know Nasu is guilty of doing stuff because it's cool, but surely the location had some special meaning.

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>>42362332
I think the desert is like the end point or the future of humanity with Aoko searching for Souji’s memories to try and to rewind time to save him for 5 minutes. I don’t remember her reaching the gate that Touko was talking about?

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>>42361422
Can you blame him though? Some white woman comes up to you and forces you to fight some vampires when you’re anemic and suddenly shows up in your house when you have an autistically strict sister. It’s actually cute that he can only be ass in front of Arihiko and Arc. That’s true love and friendship

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More musings about Chapter 12. What’s up with the field from Souji’s memories? It was called the afterlife so I’m thinking it’s the field where he was being killed by a woman or killing himself? He said it was a place where he was happy so maybe he found happiness in being close to dying and seeing that field due to some sin he did to be kicked out of the mountains?

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>>42362252
>Alright explain chapter 12 of Mahoyo to me like a baby.

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>>42362470
I want older Aoko to be my mommy…

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Aoko’s just Goku huh.

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>>42362551
Aoko Blanca.

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>>42362389
>I’m thinking it’s the field where he was being killed by a woman or killing himself?
Wait what? I don’t remember that.

In any case, it’s the same place Alice saw when she was on the verge of that, and if I’m not wrong, that was hinted to be fairy related.
Aoko (or rather, the narrator) also states that it was a pure place untainted by humans.
At this point, it’s 50/50
It’s either part of the reason his assassin organization operates, or it has something to do with mystics and the World and he felt at peace in there because, well, have you seen the place? It’s beautiful and peaceful, and the connection to the World makes it feel like one hell of a drug.
In any case, it’s important to remember that the one in chapter 12 is just a copy Aoko created when she overwrote the World, so it’s hard to say what truly happens in there and what the effects of the actual place are.


Also,
>Due to some sim he did to be kicked out of the mountains
Read chapter 13, carefully.

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>>42362644
>fairy realted
The reverse side of the world maybe

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>>42362514
I was in doubt about this,
The text only states she had a more mature behavior and mind (outside of different clothes and hair), and in no point did it say she physically age up, only that she got knowledge of her older self.
So, while I know she didn’t age past 20, is this really what 27 Aoko looks like, or is it just 17 with a different get up? And if the latter, why did her clothes change? Is it the fashion of the root or something?

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>>42362644
Haven’t read chapter 13 yet so I’ll refrain from that. It’s when Alice wakes Souji up and he seems to remember memories that he wasn’t able to before and thinks an unfamiliar woman is going to kill him. He then starts to choke himself as soon as he wakes up. It’s either his natural inclination to want to die since being brought back to life like this is not normal or it’s him involuntarily having memories to this field that’s described as an afterlife and wanting to die as it’s what’s already happened once before. I had that feeling when he woke up in the fields. The issues is that he didn’t have those memories there, but it can be explained by his body doing it internally like him still having his own moral code with Aoko.

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>>42362654
Similar, but the flowers are different.
These have larger and bluer petals that are very spread out, Mahoyo’s are smaller and rounded and whiter.

But yes, I do think it’s most likely a part of the reverse, probably one that stood on the outside due to being mostly out of humanity’s reach.

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>>42362680
I always assumed the woman was just Touko and he just choked himself to die again, since, as you said, reviving is extremely unnatural in the Nasuverse.

But he does have a secret neck injury, one that is still a mystery.
I’ll call dibs in saying it’s future Aoko visiting him as a child, getting mad (or having a mental breakdown) and trying to kill him (when, to him he is just some random woman that wants to kill him), with his happiness maybe being a memory he shared with her afterwards.

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>>42362644
>on the verge of that
Death*

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>>42362701
Eh, I don’t really like this explanation as it doesn’t really help his own character and his own deep sin that he’s hiding. It’s clear to me that something went on in the mountains that he’s hiding as a trauma. He wouldn’t be so down to killing Touko without already having killed someone already.

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>>42362829
Again, this is a discussion for after chapter 13
And in any case, the Aoko who knew all about him almost stated through the narration that was his first time killing, and how big of a deal that really was. The reason he is so down to do it? For him, Aoko is the number one, so if Touko needs to die, it’s better he do it than if Aoko becomes a murderer.
This isn’t that unthinkable, after all, he sacrificed an arm and a leg for her.

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>>42362701
Why would Aoko try to kill him as a child? That makes no sense.

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>>42362882
Yeah, guess it’s more about Souji trying to do the one thing he doesn’t want to do for Aoko in order to save her from being a killer. I do like what Touko says here as well during that excellent scene.

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>>42362601
She really is besides that. She’s weird about sex, loves fighting and blowing stuff up, will protect her friends even if that means risking the universe.

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lol, lmao even. https://vxtwitter.com/mahoyo_game_en/status/1613982765573148696?t=G5TJeEPnnEmqD1Wq69wbww&s=19

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>>42363249
Import from Japan chads win again.

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Also happy both Touko and Aoko had sex. Souji could’ve gotten a threesome though.

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>>42359480
>>42359511
Grand Saber is Artoria Avalon. Maybe.

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>>42354616
Arc and Altrouge are artificial too, they are clones from CM.
My point is that she's pure Earth, as opposed to an invader leech from the Moon larping.

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>>42349574
She was confirmed a decade ago she doesn't exist in KnK, so most likely no. Her third ascension is her what if fanfiction if she were to exist.

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>>42363276
>the Aoko x Touko meme was real
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER?

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>>42359480
Her.

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>>42363382
Where do you think all the art comes from? They gay.

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>>42363453
RIP in pieces.

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>>42363453
This mangaka did the Last Episode adaptation. He's really great.

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>>42363328
>Alien God
>Pure Earth
lmao

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>nerfed olga literally tanked ORT attack ray as nothing
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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>>42363561
She's an Ultraman reference. Nasu said once Ultraman could beat ORT. CLAP.

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>>42363561
>Olga’s strongest attack didn’t even tickle sleepwalking ORT
huh…

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>>42363561
Dude it doesn’t matter. Guda just stands there when literal gods act him. FGO is a retarded story that shouldn’t be taken seriously.

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>>42363328
Moon Cell in Extraverse is Type-Moon once it took administrative rights over Earth, and Crimson Moon was planning to do just that. Earth's Ultimate One needs to be based on the Moon's Ultimate One, hence the "blood sisters" relationship.

[Anonymous No.]

Man this whole thing is confusing still.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42363949
dude you're acting tsukitrash is any better, an anemic high school boy is able to keep up with arcueid, its all trash that shouldnt be taken seriously but at least guda is more realistic because he has servants with him

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>>42364106
What a bitch ass comment. Fuck off to your containment general.

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>>42364123
how am i wrong?

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>>42364106
Shiki couldn't beat human Noel in a straight-on fight. Every fight involving Shiki is situational and and always includes one or two characters assisting him.

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>>42364139
shiki should be absolutely pulverized to dust in 99% of his encounters, thats not an excuse

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>>42364139
>Shiki couldn't beat human Noel in a straight-on fight.
Hmm I wouldn't say that. Shiki should be able to trounce Noel pretty easily. He just didn't try that hard during that one encounter.

>>42364156
no lmao, he's strong as fuck and is literally bred to be the ultimate assassin.. Always has been. Read the VN.

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>>42364165
he only reads the gacha so he has no idea what he's talking about kek

[Anonymous No.]

Doesn't Shiki straight up have inhuman physiology with weird bones and stuff like that?

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>>42364165
no he wasn't, his entire backstory is about how he was robbed from family as a kid, unless you're going pull some cope on me and claim that he was this ultra badass nanaya bloodline assassin as fucking toddler

i swear, this general doesn't even read their own source materials, most people in /fgog/ or /alter/ have more thought provoking tsukihime discussion than this shithole

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>>42358106
Why did you feel the need to screenshot your entire desktop?

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>>42364246
1. Learn English.
2. It's been confirmed since at least KT (and re-confirmed in the remake by Dr. Arach) that the Shiki is instinctively ultra badass Nanaya assassin.

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>>42364263
an ultra badass*
Ironic I know

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>>42364263
that's shit writing though and only retroactively added onto the original source material

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>>42364270
>retroactively
The Nanaya clan being a power clan of demon killers was in the OG Tsukihime. KT just elaborated on it more, but it was always a thing.

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>>42364280
no, the idea that you can have centuries of fighting training just because you're born into a certain bloodline is definitely shit writing, the only aspect of shiki being a nanaya that is within plausible deniability is his ability to sense DAs, outside that, it's all shit writing that goes beyond the realm of plausible deniability

even if shiki was this ultra powerful epic demon hunting badass assassin, he would still be pulverized instantly by arc, shiki easily beating nero is already beyond fucking retarded

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>>42364156
So should Shirou and Guda. They have protagonist modifiers, deal with it.

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>>42364309
guda has literal divine gods in the form of servants at his beck and call due to the guda gland, its not equivalent at all

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>>42364298
>just because you're born into a certain bloodline is definitely shit writing
Uh, it's fiction not real life. The whole universe works by super magic powers being embedded into a bloodline. Being able to be a superpowered fighter based on instinct because of your genetics is no less implausible than being able to shoot magic fireballs because of your genetics. Why am I arguing with a shitposter again?

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>>42364246
>he was this ultra badass nanaya bloodline assassin as fucking toddler
Uh, yes? Thay's the entire purpose for the Nanaya inbreeding.

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>>42364326
>>42364327
well at least you guys admitted it's shit writing

if shiki was genuinely this powerful he would be unintentionally breaking doorhandles or leaving craters where he steps, instead he's just a weakling anemic high school kid who awakens to his epic nanaya bloodline whenever it's convenient and has the powerlevel to keep up with Type's

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>>42364298
>a certain bloodline
A certain bloodline that has racemixed with non-human elements?

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>>42364349
>no THIS superpower bad but THIS superpower good
The intellect of your average gachanigger on display.

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>>42364361
nice strawman, if you can't see why shiki's powers are bad writing, but shirou, souji and guda's powers are good writing, then you're completely helpless, but yes, keep yelling gachanigger until you wear out your voice, im sure that will make tsukitrash a good story

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>>42364372
You're retarded. Come back when you have the intellect of a 15 year old.

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>>42364372
>nice strawman
ironic
>shiki's powers are bad writing
This is literally because you are just retarded and did not understand the argument presented.
>yes, keep yelling gachanigger
I will gachanigger.

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>>42364381
You’re the retard. Stop giving that troll attention.

[Anonymous No.]

I see my superiority has lead to some controversy.

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>>42361422
Are the nuances of interpersonal relationships hard for you anon?

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As far as the VNs go, vamp Shiki is literally one of the most powerful characters Nasu has ever written.

[Anonymous No.]

Is there a translation for CCC? Does it work for emulator? I really wish I could play that game. I was only able to read it in a blog some time ago.

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He has a point to be honest. But if you think about it, Shiki being able to kill beings like Arcueid or Nrvnqsr is only ridiculous if you look at Type-Moon's history retrospectively. So many batshit insane things have happened throughout the Nasuverse timeline, but the idea that Arcueid and Nrvnqsr are pretty high up the powerlevel "totem pole" has never changed. So obviously, the powerlevel gap between someone like Arcueid and Shiki has only widened throughout the decades.

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>Arguing with a gacha addict during dead weeks.
Guys, don't take the clowns seriously. They aren't used to protagonists who contribute and they clearly didn't comprehend the setting lol. Shiki inverting was established as early as the moment he encountered the main heroine kek.

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>>42364485
Power levels are dumb but objectively Shiki has always been a super high power level capable of killing DAs at a minimum. His feats speak for itself and in the remake he's even stronger.

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>MUH DEMONIC BLOODLINE
nice writing you guys got there kek

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>>42364542
Powerlevel discussions are definitely retarded, but I feel like Nasu brings that onto himself by writing outlandish fights and egging on the discussion by introducing exponentially stronger villains. Shiki's powerlevel is pretty relative, it depends on what you're rating his strength on. If you're doing it based on his Nanayamode, I don't think Shiki is even close to halfway up the totem pole. If you're rating him based on his origin and mystic eyes, he's theoretically at the top of the totem pole. It's basically a never ending debate.

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>>42364560
Shiki's big weakness is if his opponent has range or can bind him in some way (magic, etc.). But otherwise if we're talking a close combat 1v1 fight, I really don't see why he can't take on just about anyone.

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>>42364545
>DEMONIC BLOODLINE
Who?

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>>42364606
Akiha. I can't wait for her to kill a servant in Red Garden.

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>>42364616
She can already do that dude.

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>>42364485
He's like a venomous snake in a battle between elephants. He's got a lethality higher than anyone else(his venom in a sense) that's perfectly compatible with the rest of his kit which revolves around landing one killing blow as an assassin. Being canonically bred for super speed, instinct and techniques to optimally land that deadly strike, Shiki is a threat for anything his ability works against. Not even factoring in what he did to Roa in remake or his vampire buffs.

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>>42364578
He has a human body. The only reason he didn't die against a weakened Vlov was because

1. Arcueid was shielding him from the freezing
2. Arcueid assisted him in landing a sneak attack
3. Ciel parried Vlov's icicles with her Black Keys

It still required his Nanaya skills to assist him but ain't no way he would have been able to take on Vlov on his own.
Even vampire Shiki struggled against Noel in Ciel's route.
So no, Shiki is not on the level of a IV Rank DA. Let's not overrate Shiki here.

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>>42364669
Well right the entire Vlov situation you are talking about there is precisely because Vlov actively avoided close combat. That doesn't contradict what I said.

>It still required his Nanaya skills to assist him
The Nanaya skills are his own skills so I mean that's not really a point against him.

>Even vampire Shiki struggled against Noel in Ciel's route.
Because of her magic eyes not really combat although Noel is also retarded and didn't just spam range. There was also that part where he could have killed her but chose not to.

>So no, Shiki is not on the level of a IV Rank DA.
That's what Nero thought and paid the price.

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>>42364655
Kek

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That’s the whole point of the MEoDP, if you’re not faster than the user, have some way of distance killing them, or has some way of preventing them from reaching you, they win, regardless of anything else.
It’s outside power scaling because it completely depends on the situation the user finds themselves in.

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>>42363672
What strongest attack? Only thing she did in story is to block ORT. She's also literally barely hanging into life according to Tezca before this. Bitch's unkillable with less than 3% of her operational level and a sealed np.

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>>42364669
He has a human body. Anyone who can't survive the frost would instantly have died human body or not. We're talking about an enemy who slows the opponents body the closer they get and can turn them into an icicle.
Needing a little help to approach a god-like being via the air(he can't fly bro) against someone warping the world isn't diminishing his feats. And Ciel's assist only goes to show how metal Shiki is since he was prepared to die to ensure the kill and wouldn't have bothered to dodge.
>Nanaya skills
Shiki hardly hints at that side in remake and like Shiki's vampirization is also a scale. His vampirization against Noel was in the earlier stages compared to later. Shiki changes how powerful he is from one instance to the next since it depends a lot on his mindset and will.

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>>42363672
She's 3% amnesiac without able to use her noble phantasm, and ORT wasn't 'sleepwalking'. It attacked the group before fucking off. Since he came all that way from the ninth layer to the 5th or so. It was literally walking and about.

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Who gives a shit about what ORT does. You know it'll job to Guda and the rest since they can never lose against anyone.

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>>42364762
>>42363672
Also see what I said: >>42363579
Nasu went about how Ultraman can beat ORT, and U on Olga stands for Ultra (her animations are all based on Ultraman). Literally his crossover fanfiction using his OCs but went further and took them out the Servant Universe.

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If Shiki had a gun and shot at a point without his glasses on, would it work?

[Anonymous No.]

Shiki canonically can beat servants including one who can preform Shukuchi and has tengu magic.

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>>42364788
Yes. But Shiki is a knife maniac and it's probably a lot hearder to land a blow from a gun against superhumans than his knife when he's doing flash-sheath shit.

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>>42364762
Are you talking about the future where ORT destroyed Earth? Because ORT hasn't woken up yet outside that future.

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>>42364788
Probably

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Who gives a shit about ORT and Clownga, we're talking about stuff in actual Type Moon works.

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>>42364793
I'm still not sure if that MB boss rush that is basically just Shiki beating FGO servants counts as based or not.

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>>42364824
yeah like Souji, the best TM character.

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>>42364372
I agree with you that Shiki's absolute trash character, an edgy Gary Sue that seems written for the teenager Deviant Art crowd from the 2000s.

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>>42364837
damn you make him sound like a good character actually. I fell in love with him once again. Here's some advice for you from the man himself.

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>>42364851
Why is this character so goated?

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>>42364372
Guda and good writing are mutually exclusive

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>>42364827
As much as I am entirely lukewarm on FGO, that collab was peak Nasu soul. He tricked everyone into thinking it was the beginning of the end only to subvert expectations brilliantly.

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Something I've always wondered is what happens when someone accidentally cuts another person's point of death? Like lets say you're a surgeon and during regular surgery you cut someone's point of death and they die instantly.

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>>42364807
Tezca brought him and the future he wakes up to the present. We see it attacking the group (in main story, not just the meme fight), he throws a green ray that Olga blocks it to protect Guda and Kadoc.
U-Olga's still weak as shit, even mumbles this when Kuku outruns ORT to pickup the Shadow Border gag style.
She's going to wreck ORT for sure though, because as I said, Nasu went on "Ultraman can defeat ORT" once and she's "Ultra" Olga with Ultraman references up to the ass.

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>>42364890
>Like lets say you're a surgeon and during regular surgery you cut someone's point of death and they die instantly.
Then that person becomes just another statistic in the "death due to medical error" statistic. Jokes aside, you can't "accidentally" do that unless your name is Shiki.

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>>42364827
>>42364884
>Archetype Earth can't clear doors
Bros...

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>>42364919
Boss Rush 4? She was having morning sickness. Please understand.

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>>42364884
This is NTR, right?

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>>42364890
Death doesn't exist in the universe until Shiki uses his power. Cessation of vital activities exists but what Shiki perceives does not.

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>>42364949
Go back to cuck general on /vg/ please. Shiki is just based and she appreciates that. Friendship between protagonists is a thing.

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>>42364949
No Shiki didn't want to catch any STD's

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>>42364949
No, that's Ushi.
Mashu's portrayed as a friend like Dantes which is nice for Shiki to have a cool older bro figure, for a change.

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>>42364949
I thought Shiki wouldn't show up in FGO but after this it seems like it would be odd if he didn't.

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>>42364906
>because as I said, Nasu went on "Ultraman can defeat ORT" once and she's "Ultra" Olga with Ultraman references up to the ass
lmao. That's what he wants you to think.

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>>42365033
>ushi
imagine the threesome with akiha

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>>42365040
To clarify, I expect him to have some interaction with King Hassan and he's basically the main actor in all of this+Mash tells him they'll see each other again so... seems like foreshadowing.

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>>42365040
I don't give a shit about any more Tsukihime x FGO crossoveres, just give me more serious Tsukihime content.

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>>42365046
sad we still don't have art with Ushi and Shiki and Akiha too.

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>>42365074
2 more years. Have to finish FGO part 2 while dragging it out as much as possible.

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>>42365074
the only smart poster on here. It seems Nasu doesn't care about Tsukihime as he'll even write about FGO in Melty Blood. It must be his favorite thing he's written after writing about it for so long? I imagine his self-insert is Guda after having to wrtie from their perspective for so long.

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You can tell which posters haven't bothered with boss rush 4.

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>>42365044
That's what is going to happen since Olga's his waifu.

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>>42365091
doesn't change the fact that he wrote about fate and FGO in melty blood and spends his time writing fluffy garbage. How about he sits his ass down and writes something serious for Melty Blood like he used to?

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>>42365075
Commision it.

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>>42365074
2024. Surely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42365105
He wrote something serious for Melty Blood in FGO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42365105
Why do you think he hasn't and they're just waiting for Sion? He said he wrote like a novels worth over a year ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42365106
>>42365124
>>42365118
man you guys love to kiss his ass for being lazy and just accepting mediocrity like you do.

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>>42365180
Not sure if you have bad reading comprehension or are projecting or just replied to the wrong guy.

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https://twitter.com/mpon_zeroshiki/status/1613957907611258880/photo/1

Fatty rin

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>>42365424
Rin if she posted in /tmg/

[Anonymous No.]

Why is Code ZTS Label the best FSN fan music album?

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw seeing mahoyo discussion turn to this garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>42365700
Going back to Mahoyo is this the craziest thing a TM character has ever said? Souji casually dismissing or even pretending to has to be up there. Balls of steel.

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>>42366026
The best part about that line is that he was 100% serious.

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>>42366040
Touko does say that he may have been baiting Beo to attack him wildly and badly out of rage so I don’t know. Souji really is the perfect example of being too smart or stupid since he could’ve either been planning it all along or actually thinking he was just another dog.

[Anonymous No.]

Too many people are finishing Mahoyo and not realising that it's a woman who gave Souji his neck wound.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366133
Yeah that’s what I said lol. Does Souji talk about his family? I’d be messed up if it was his mom or family.

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>>42366133
To be fair, it is ambiguous. I am a believer that she did it though.

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>>42366194
She, as in Aoko? Through some kind of weird paradox loop deal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366213
Nah I don't know who the fuck it is. Could be Souji's mom for all we know.

[Anonymous No.]

Mahoyo OST posting time.
https://youtu.be/h1X7RNPk5MY This track is hitting hard tonight.

[Anonymous No.]

I hope the first reappearance of Nero is in MB as Neco Arc Chaos vs Neco Vlov

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366291
Ahh yes, I used to listen to this one a lot.

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>>42366133
To be fair, it was a single line that mentioned it, in the middle of a very climactic event, and that single line is immediately overshadowed by Souji choking himself.

[Anonymous No.]

Doesn't Arach say Shiki's body isn't even in peak condition in Remake?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366523
The more obvious reference to it is the vision that Alice has in chapter 10.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366698
What vision? The one when he’s carrying her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366704
Yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366133
I completely missed it

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>>42366819
The reading comprehension of this place kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366819
I missed it too, and then I also missed that he choked himself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366839
I only pay attention 100% if it was Alice that was talking

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366872
Damn you must’ve had a rough time seeing how little she is in the game in the later half. Did she not have any more ploys to help out at the end?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366870
We got a lot of Souji’s on here.

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>>42366885
Not really. It's rare for Alice to talk needlessly so I enjoyed every second of it.
>Did she not have any more ploys to help out at the end?
Even if she did, she didn't have the opportunity to do so and Touko probably had a few measures against it/the spotlight is Aoko's in the final fight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366918
The story mentioned her having three great ones? What happen to the crazy on in chapter 9?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366934
Ate the automatas

[Anonymous No.]

>>42366963
That couldn’t help out when fighting Touko? Guess due to her not having any magic to use.

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>>42366979
Did you even read it? It seems like you're the one that need to pay more attention. There's a reason why both of them didn't fight Touko in the final fight.

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>>42366819
I didn't realize until literally years later don't worry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42367003
Just wanted the Mahoyo conversation to keep going. Never mind then.

[Anonymous No.]

Mahoyo is unironically really dense. It's super easy to miss shit and implications.

[Anonymous No.]

I have not read Mahoyo
I have not read Tsukihime Remake
I don't have any time
Life is pain

[Anonymous No.]

>>42367203
Getting Mahoyo on the Switch and reading it in bed before sleep is how I’ve done it when I have spare time. It’s not too long

[Anonymous No.]

Mahoyo sold 140k copies in a month. https://www.famitsu.com/news/202301/06286601.html

[Anonymous No.]

>>42367574
>当時、『魔法使いの夜』のPC版を出したときにいちばん言われたのが「サーヴァントは出ないの?」ということなんです。
Imagine having taste this fucking bad.

[Anonymous No.]

We were robbed of the secret Souji H scene between these two.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42367574
>140k
Sauce?
>>42367689
This part was just depressing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42367574
I always assumed that they already had highres assets, but they actually had to upscale them.

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>>42346004
Fucking hell, this. So many times I've tried to finish getting through Epic of Remnant to catch up to the supposedly good Lostbelt arc, but I just cannot give a shit about any of the characters or anything going on. It's a failure on every level, with no real tension or stakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42367689
>>42367771
I refuse to believe in such depressing things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42368220
Lee is so pretty

[Anonymous No.]

>>42368428
She is amazing, I really do cherish her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42364446
I gave up on expecting cjiwakura to deliver that shit lol. I think he's just hoarding it just so other people cant snipe it away from him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42367689
It's unironically over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42367574
>100k less than the tsukihime remake despite being sold outside of japan
i think it's now safe to assume that nasu magnum opus is a huge flop

[Anonymous No.]

>>42367574
>奈須『魔法使いの夜』というゲームは自信作と言いますか、当時のTYPE-MOONができるマックスの作品でした。当時「もうしばらくこれは超えられない」と言った通り、10年経ったいまでも自分たちの中では頂点にある作品です。『魔法使いの夜』はパッケージそのものが完成されていて、それを美しい箱に詰めて作ったものが今回のフルボイス版『魔法使いの夜』です。
Amazing

[Anonymous No.]

>>42367771
>https://www.famitsu.com/news/202301/06286601.html
>>42367689
What the fuck. That is INCREDIBLY depressing. Can you imagine how Nasu/TM must have felt? Is that why he fucking divided the worlds? Just so it would never be expected and the stories there serve as something fresh relative to the deluge of Fate derivatives? If so, based as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42369485
Remember that gacha retard that said that Mahoyo wasn’t the pinnacle of Nasu’s works. Well get fucked. It’s still his magnum opus.

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>>42369425
I mean, who gives a shit? It's still good sales and surely overperformed relative to what they expected if they thought Tsukihime would only get 100k in a year. I saw something a few weeks ago suggesting nearly half of the sales were overseas too so that has to bode well yeah?

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>>42369711
It's LB6 bro. It doesn't count as a TM work because uhhhh, Lasagna or something spaghetti. So of course LB6 wouldn't be mentioned since it only represents NASU's PERSONAL MAGNUM OPUS where he surpassed himself. Something something.

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>>42367574
Considering that even back when the PC released they had already expected Mahoyo not to sell much due to its more “Slice of life” and “no servants or weird ass conceptual monster(Beo not doesn’t count, it isn’t an entire novel revolving around elementals, after all)” vibes, this is actually quite a good number, hope this shows them that there’s actually a market for both Mahoyo and overseas consumers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42369752
I just hope he writes more Tsukihime world shit(Tsukihime, Mahoyo, ANYTHING that isn't about fucking servants grail wars and queer masters). Give me DDD or something entirely new before you genderbend another historical figure for the PLEBS who asked them this>>42367689

[Anonymous No.]

which servant would you like to have the Edison treatment and turned into a cute fluffy animal?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42369722
i just feel bad for nasu man, mahoyo is clearly a work that he seems very passionate about from the multiple interviews I've read, and yet a work that doesn't even have half the passion that nasu put into mahoyo and by his own admission was forced to complete for the fans, makes almost double the numbers. as a writer, this must really be a complicated feeling and i hope that doesn't discourage him for the sequels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42369811
I don't think he's upset that Tsukihime did well bro... i by his own admission, every ounce of what modern TM could put into a game went into Tsuki or something. If anything is disheartening it's probably that such a small % of mobile only people don't give a fuck unless it has shitty gameplay segments and gacha mechanics lol.

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>>42369722
Yeah, people clearly don’t get how well that is sales wise for a VN and a older remaster of one. Mahoyo will never be a huge work like Tsukihime or Fate sales-wise due to it being a niche story, but as long as it sells enough to be profitable then it’s fine.

[Anonymous No.]

How do I become a share holder in type moon and co?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42370430
By a lot of stock in the stock market. In any case, your real question is if they even have stock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42369485
>>42369711
>>42369735
Remember /tmg/ autists who can't discern between real talk and PR talk.

[Anonymous No.]

It’s already been 10 years Nasu…where is more Mahoyo content that you clearly teased here…?

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, she’s like Illya. Best girl confirmed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42371058
The "ten years from now" thing is just Touko being able to break the curse and comming back to bitch at them.
But that is meaningless, since she breaks that curse in less than a year by beginning to use puppet bodies, so there's not much sequel baiting in this line. (Besides, Mahoyo will almost 100% happen only during the time period where Aoko is still in High School)

[Anonymous No.]

Surprised Aoko and Souji are both so cavalier about having their memories erased. It’s essentially like having your past selves be killed like in the story. It’d make more sense if Aoko’s reason for doing it was because she didn’t want Souji to hurt himself and die anymore in the mage world. That would make more sense over an obligation as a mage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42371080
Ah, thought it was a more cosmic threat like the world getting ready to kill Aoko for messing with time through 10 years from what she used from Souji. That’s lame.

[Anonymous No.]

Yeah, my theory about him being raised by the same organization as Kuzuki seems likely here. I’m surprised they didn’t tell him about him having to train for years in order to kill someone. Maybe it’s a different sect that wanted to train people to kill monsters for contracts? Why train on animals instead of human? Or is Souji suppressing more of the truth?

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>>42371097
I mean, she is clearly having a lot of angst over it, they both are, and what you just said is straight up stated in the story.
The thing is, losing the memories of that time was already a certain conclusion for them, something that they knew would have to happen for them to even be friends like they were, so this is less a situation of despair and more a situation where you can be nothing but despondent at the doom that finally arrived.

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>>42371152
>Or is Souji suppressing more of the truth?
He is 100% telling the truth here, this is Souji, and when he begins talking, you can believe he is saying everything and it is all true.
In any case, the organization is still a mystery, but why they never told him? I don't remember if that was ever stated, but having an innocent murderer is the best tactic.
Have someone who is gleeful at the thought of murder can be a wild card, having someone who despises it can fail at the last second. They kept them all unaware of the truth of the world and their own actions so that they wouldn't bat an eye at murder and act like perfect machines.

Other than that, there's not much to go on here. Their objectives and their MO remain a mystery, but it's safe to assume they train in the mountains to remain far from human civilization and to keep their operatives "pure".

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>>42371180
I don’t remember if they told Kuzuki what his training was for, but I think you’re right that they just told him to train and do the same kinds of martial arts for years. Same situation for Kuzuki though it does seem to be a different part of it since they had them survive and struggle in the mountains and have them be pure like you mentioned. I do think they were aiming for killing monsters and not just humans since training against animals like is different from Kuzuki.

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>>42369021
Cute assassin

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>>42370704
I wonder if people here actually believe Last Encore was great and deep just because Nasu said so in an interview.

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>>42370704
Nice cope.

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I’m just confused here. Why would this cult like organization just let him leave like that? I’d make more sense just to kill him if he became useless to them after questioning the whole purpose of what he was doing. Maybe that’s what that woman was going to do for questioning and being a failure in their eyes? Though he describes and elder helping him leave the mountains.

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>>42371301
>Maybe that’s what that woman was going to do for questioning and being a failure in their eyes?
I doubt it was that soon.
Aoko only took ten years worth of already forgotten memories (the ones more easily manipulated) so theflower field, and consequently the woman, are something from earlier in his childhood.

In any case, why they let him go? It's confusing, and it's in the same league as everything else about the organization, "it can only be explained one we know their true intentions, reasonings, and MO".
For now, while I doubt it, it seems they are not necessarily malicious, and once they saw this one boy couldn't do the dirty anymore, they just went, "well, c'est la vie" and throwed him away. I do believe there was no fear of being discovered. It doesn't seem like the monuntain people have any sort of housing or organization, so even if people did go to investigate (which is even more unlikely, because it banks of the completely unaware person they just let go realizing how evil the operation was and telling it to the authorities), it would be hard to collect all of them, or even truly find their structure.
But then again, maybe they are just secretly using him as a sleeper agent. We won't know until 2 and 3 come out.

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So this is the original sin he talked about in chapter 12. It’s about Souji questioning his actions in the mountain and leaving that paradise for the regular world. Definitely getting some Adam and Eve vibes about him committing the sin of wanting knowledge and trying to learn the truth of the world while leaving his own paradise. The analogy doesn’t make much sense when he described people dying and it being a struggle to survive though. Guess it’s just in Souji’s nature to adapt to anything and think the peaceful simplicity of it all without the constant sins of the regular world is perfection to him.

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>>42371372
>I doubt it was that soon.
Sorry, had a brainfart, I meant "I doubt it was so recent."

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>>42371379
>Guess it’s just in Souji’s nature to adapt to anything and think the peaceful simplicity of it all without the constant sins of the regular world is perfection to him.
It's less like this and more like the innocent murderer analogy.
If he doesn't know aobut how good life CAN be, if all he knows is a life where he is always too busy trying to survive and train to think of anything, then all he knows is by definition the best.
And after he left the mountains, the simplicity of "live to see another day" was destroyed, and he was overwhelmed, to the point he longed for the only life he knew how to live, despite the fact that he, as a person, can't help but hate it.

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>>42369811
I'm sure Nasu is passionate about it because it all makes sense in his autistic mind, but it's hard to expect the same level of passion from the fans when it feels incomplete and lacking plot-wise compared to his other VNs.

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>>42371256
Best assassin, best maid, best kuudere. Best Maji, if only figurative older sisters were real.

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Damn that’s cruel Nasu. You really want me to ship them so bad with Aoko referencing Cinderella like that. I just wanted Aoko to awkwardly introduce her friend to his family and have them think he’s her boyfriend.

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>>42371492
I absolutely thought this "introducing friend and confusing him for boyfriend" trope was gonig to happen too, but I was somewhat glad it didn't.
Not only do I not shipp them, I don't think that would've been an interesting moment at all. (not nearly as much as the conversation with grandpa anyway)

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Hnnngg, this was so cute

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>>42371492
I started to like them the moment Nasu goes on about their first meeting in the church and Souji having the realization why he’s drawn to Aoko. But Souji and Alice is cute too. The relationship between the trio is just too good.

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I’m disappointed in you guys not taking memes and telling people the her Grandad just wants Aoko to get continue the Aozaki bloodline like Christ Redfield does. A real shame.

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>>42371747
Making memes* What do you think he meant by giving up his ego?

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>>42371747
The truth is, grandpa doesn't want to admit he didn't interfere with Aoko and Touko's fighting, because he knew that if they got along just a little bit more, they would spend the entire day in each other's bed, and the heir would never be born.

In any case, when he speaks of this, he is just saying he needs an heir to his legacy. It doesn't need to be an Aozaki, nor a child of his granddaughters. As long as if can take his legacy and is great enough to satisfy him, he will take them on.

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>>42371590
that egg is fucking raw

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>>42371755
"Ego, super ego, id" bullshit most likely.
If not, then he simply gave out his own individuality and agency to remain as an immortal who only pursued "the perfect heir", which is why, when Aoko asked for help, he had no self to deny giving her such help.

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Damn Gramps, if you wanted to get Souji to fuck Aoko then you should’ve been a wingman to him. Teach him how to be more charismatic and pick up on his chances to woo her. Souji had a real chance to continue her bloodline.

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Guess he really is a dead man walking on borrowed time? His chances of being alive don’t seem good seeing that he wasn’t referenced in Lumina.

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>>42371780
Nah, he's just saying "you influenced her quite well, so I thought that maybe you got some genes I could use... but you're worthless, now that I meet you."

>>42371792
It's not like he is on borrowed time, rather, he IS just a dead person that is alive because of Magic bullshit. And, at the end, it is unknown about the effectiveness of this magic, so it might be that it will fail one day.

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>>42371792
>His chances of being alive don’t seem good seeing that he wasn’t referenced in Lumina

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Damn bitch you just only saw your family for like 10 minutes and left?? It thought she was going to stay over for the night.

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>>42371849
It is a sound argument, and the only piece of evidence as to what happened to Souji in the future.

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>>42371865
He father probably said something along the lines of "So, your sister called me and said you raped her while putting on a curse that turns her into a frog if she ever comes back to visit us, also, she said you two had a secret relationship all along... wanna talk about that?"
And she just dipped.

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>>42371766
the heat of the soup cooks it

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Aoko still wants to rail Souji so we still got a chance to continue the Aozaki lineage boys.

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>>42368079
Where did it say that? I only skimmed it.

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Don’t be jealous now Aoko. You had your chance with him. Go for it!

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>>42371950
Looking at this line, I'm reminded of just how familiar these characters are with each other.
Kojika says it felt like she had known Aoko for way longer than she did in Sweets Hearts, Aoko says she felt like Soujuurou was like an old friend in this scene, Soujuurou always just went for Alice's first name, even though he wasn't supposed to know anything about the modern world, much less naming conventions in the west (and to a lesser degree, after just a short while of working with Aoko, Tobimaru felt comfortable enough to throw a full on punch at her face).
It makes me wonder if some time fuckery is involved.

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>>42371869
No it's not. Why would you even think Aoko and Souji are still living together decades later. It's ridiculous.

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>>42372006
It is because Aoko names all the people and friends she wants to talk to and she includes Alice, whom as you said, is obviously not living with her anymore.
Not a single consideration for Souji. Even Alice, that couldn't be contacted with modern technology, was mentioned, so why not him who is so dear to her? They are obviously separated in the future, and I can't really imagine a situation where it isn't akin to him being dead.

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Jesus, was he born in the inner sea of the planet or something?

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>>42371869
>>42372033
Obviously Aoko can't namedrop him in fucking MB because it would confirm him being alive several decades later which removes the whole ambiguity.

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>>42372053
I think it's just flowery speech reffering to the fully natural night sky people used to see in ancient times before light pollution, and if you've ever gone to a planetarium, you know it's not that imporessive.
In any case, go back to chapter 12 and look at the sky after Aoko activates Blue (specifically, when Soujuurou is talking to Alice after he wakes up), it will show you just what he is talking about, as well as just how far her rewriting of the World goes.

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>>42372033
You're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. Literally all that means is that she still keeps in contact with Alice. Maybe he just got his memories erased and is no longer part of her world or is just not keeping contact with her anymore. Neither option necessitates him being dead.

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>>42372065
Sounds like coping, especially when not name-dropping him just serves to add almost certainty to his death.
It is a piece of evidence with standing, if you want to present an argument against it, go ahead, but make it one that has as much standing as this one does.

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God this chapter is so beautiful. I just wish Aoko would be more proactive in trying to help him out and maybe have Souji think that Aoko can be his new star to follow and guide him to the man that he wants to be. She has shown so brightly throughout the story that her being his star would make sense and be so beautiful as he moves on from his past and follows the present and future with Aoko.

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>>42372103
There are a gazillion reasons for not namedropping Soujuurou and one of them could just be as simple as "he fucked off to some mountains and nobody knew what happened after that".

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God they’re so perfect together. He really is trying to keep her humanity and her old self by not killing anyone and becoming a typical mage. Moments like this and other dog his humanity really keep Aoko in check and with Aoko trying to make Souji move on from his past and go into the future. They’re perfect together.

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God this I so beautiful I just can’t man. Souji I love you.

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>>42372217
Why are male Type-Moon MCs the perfect husband?

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>>42372123
Yeah, but does that sound like good writing, or something Soujuurou, who admited to never again be able to live in the mountains, would do?
What's more, having his memories of everyone erased just means the death of the Soujuurou we know, as he is reset into the one he was at the beginning and loses all his growth.

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>>42372225
I doubt Soujuurou gets his memory erased. Alice and Aoko both clearly give up on it.

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God damnit stop it Nasu. I want them to be together forever. Maybe it’s better to not get more Mahoyo since I won’t have to see them saying goodbye for real… I don’t think I could take it.

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>>42372225
>but does that sound like good writing
Killing him off is? Sounds more to me that's just wishful thinking on your part, more than anything grounded in any kind of hard evidence. You're just grasping at straws.

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Awww. Alice waited all night for them.

[Anonymous No.]

Awww that’s sweet that they both decided to keep it a secret. When did Alice hold that book exactly?

[Anonymous No.]

Does anyone have the character profiles of the old Melty Bloods? I don't have them on my computer right now, and they seem to have disappeared from youtube.

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>>42372406
Alice is reading it in Chapter 8, but most likely found it shortly after the Flat Snark fight after chapter 6 (there's a brief scene where she's walking through her library and finds something).

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She made friends with Beo? The heck happened to that kid after Chapter 12?

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>>42369707
I can't see where this says it sold 140k copies in a month. Am I blind?

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>>42372440
It's not her that became friends with beo
Anyway, the extras should make it pretty clear.

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>>42372446
Yeah I didn't see it anywhere on that page either.

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I want to see all these stories!!! God damnit Nasu.

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>>42372464
Join the club.

[Anonymous No.]

Well that was beautiful. Now I have a hole in my heart never be fixed. I want more…

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>>42372408
I don't think they were ever translated.

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>>42372260
The whole game tells of their parting so they both must’ve gone their separate ways somehow. The actions Aoko did with his death will certainly come back to bite her in the ass and cause it to be reversed or something else. It’s clear they will both leave each other someday

[Anonymous No.]

I was rereading the original Tsukihime, and Nero shot this out when he decided to get serious.
Considering it came after Unicorns and dragons, is it just another animal, or could it be an ORT copy?

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>>42372668
A phantasmal species. The manga shows visuals of it.

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>>42372714
Oh, I see

[Anonymous No.]

Do you prefer Nasu’s older way of writing with being way direct with what’s going on and telling the audience about it or with the way Mahoyo’s written as more short and letting the audience decide what the meaning of the story is?

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>>42372755
What do you mean?

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>>42372895
I guess it’s more about his older style of writing like in his classic VNs and then Mahoyo which felt different to me. Guess it’s just me who thinks about it like this. I mean it being a kinetic novel or his older games is different. It feels more like a book over his older works.

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>>42372944
Well it's written in third person.

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>>42373006
Who?

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>>42373096
Her name is Sion Eltnam Atlasia, originally a Melty Blood character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42373153
>Sion
Holy fuck, how didn’t I recognize her… I guess I’m not used to seeing her on the new artstyle (and with her hair down)

[Anonymous No.]

Archer turned me gay I have no regrets

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>>42373256
Gay

[Anonymous No.]

Archer is 100% heterosexual.

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I’m still stuck on Aoko’s granddad being a lingering ghost that’ll stick around for as long as Aoko doesn’t get an heir. Poor guy. He should’ve just stuck with Touko since she actually had sex. Though I doubt she’ll ever settle down. She may just spit out a kid due to her being more of a traditional mage.

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>>42373291
Nasu actually said that Aoko would be a doting and loving parent. It already says a lot considering the magus autism in Nasuverse

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>>42373291
>for as long as Aoko doesn’t get an heir
What, you think it's that simple? If the next Aozaki child isn't better than Aoko and Touko combined, then he will remain and wait for the next, and then the next, and then the next.
What he is waiting for isn't an heir, but THE heir, the single greatest individual to be born in the magical world. Which is why he will never achieve his goal, what he wants is simply impossible.

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>>42373371
I mean she already takes care of both Souji and Shiki so she’s an alright mom.

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>>42373371
Really? I always pegged her more as a strict parent that would smile and pat you in the head if you were constantly achieving your best.
Any links to the interview so I can read more about the subject?

(And also, that's hella meaningless considering she is a femcell, and fun fact for you all, Kojika straight up said she is only attractive for as long as she isn't talking to you, so yeah, even in universe...)

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>>42373385
Man I wanna learn more about him? Do we know anything else? Do we ever have a conversation between Zelretch and Aoko anywhere? He seems a bit similar to Zel or maybe it’s just his voice that sounds like what I think Zel would sound like.

[Anonymous No.]

Aoko mum...

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>>42373402
Zel has a voiced line at the HF prologue in Realta Nua, so you CAN know what his voice is like, and yes, it is simmilar. (don't know if it's the same VA though.)

In any case, I wouldn't say they are at all similar. Zelretch is cryptic, but at least we know he likes good and dislikes bad, as well as having some conventional wisdom and care. Meanwhile, grandpa just straight up doesn't care; his family is being torn appart? Who gives a shit, as long as an heir is born then he is happy. His ego is gone? Who gives a shit, as long as an heir is born then he is happy. He had to emotionally manipulate both his granddaughters and end up throwing them into a conflict that severely strained their relationship? Who gives a shit, as long as an heir is born then he is happy.
He isn't a good person, not like Zel, but he is a powerful magus who achieved a path to the root in a single generation, and attracted people like Eiri to his side.

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>>42373440
>HF prologue
epilogue*
fuck

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>>42373440
Good point. I just equate Zel to older magi. Man I need more Zel content

[Anonymous No.]

>>42373291
Pretty sure the reason he didn't make Touko the heir is because he knew she wouldn't use Magic once she learned of it's nature, while Aoko being impulsive and rash would obviously use it eventually.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42373566
If I'm not wrong it's beacuse he knew Touko would try to touch the root, and he didn't think she was ready or worth for it. Meanwhile Aoko had more compatibility, and wouldn't care about the root due to the way she was raised, and in case she did, she would at least be more suited.
He doesn't care about magic, his true schtick and legacy is the root.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42373620
Yeah he seemed pretty adamant in wanting Aoko not to talk about the root and Touko has a deep fascination with it and the truth in general. I’m sure Touko would use the magic eventually given her curiosity over eveything.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone have all the digital version of the limited edition art books for Mahoyo that came out recently? Think it’s the old one but it’s been translated so I’d just like to read the comments the creators left for them. This is what I mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42373685
I thought about buying the special edition for this, but decided against it because it would be on the internet in the first second after release, but it seems I was wrong.
Gotta wait for someone who bought it to dump somewhere on the net, boyo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42373620
>>42373636
Except Touko chided Aoko for using Magic in the way she did. The Fifth doesn't seem to be time manipulation, more like fucking stuff up which includes time. Aoko is more suited in the sense her attributes seem to be consumption and extinction based on the fight at the park.
The stuff runs opposite to Touko, who is a much more rational and logical individual.
Also, I don't get what you mean by touching the Root, Magic is already as close to the Root as you can get without simply ceasing to exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>be an absolute magus genius and singlehandly revival multiple lost arts of magic thought to be lost for centuries
>imouto gets the crest because "lol compatibility sis"

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>>42373734
>Didn't read chapter 13
No one really knows what happens, but in universe, the most accepted theory is that you become God. (Menawhile magic is more like creating a backdoor into the origin of all eixtance and using that to perform an impossible miracle)
Exploring the root is Touko and Grandpa's true objective, meanwhile Aoko couldn't care less, and just went up to the door, knocked real quick, grabbed what she needed, and dipped.

>Except Touko chided Aoko for using Magic in the way she did.
Yes, but that's because of a few reasons:
-Touko's true goal is to touch the root, but she, at this moment, is also obsessed with magic, and seeing Aoko just treat it like she did set her off
-Aoko was pretty much worsening the future heat death of the universe and making shit worse than time paradoxes, it was normal to be mad at such dumbassery, especially when it comes from your sibbling.

>The Fifth doesn't seem to be time manipulation, more like fucking stuff up which includes time. Aoko is more suited in the sense her attributes seem to be consumption and extinction based on the fight at the park.
Why thank you, I used to say this way back during last year, but most people didn't seem interested in talking about it, good to see people are finally realizing.
In any case, yes, like I said, Aoko was simply more suited, which is also why she was chosen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42373719
Oh well. Anyone have the old art book then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42373809
>Touko's true goal is to touch the root
For more information, read the "Honey Affair" extra story. When she talks to Ritsuka Suse, it is said that whether she suceeded or failed, she would forever disappear from that world.
(In other words, "sucess = touching the root and vanishing" 'failure = losing and dying")

[Anonymous No.]

So good. https://youtu.be/OvVcrslpKAg

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>Aoko embodies consumption and extinction
Huh... that... rather reminds me of Slash Emperor. Consuming entire planets until there's nothing left, all so you can destroy another world.
Both can be said to be the embodiment of humanity, one consumes everything until there's nothing left, all for one's sake, and the other destroys the world in order to protect humanity.

Maybe Aoko and Ado share an origin/are reincarnations of one another?

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>>42373809
>No one really knows what happens, but in universe, the most accepted theory is that you become God
Yes, I've heard the same stuff since KnK and all that tells if is that you effectively cease to exist since as "God" you won't care about "this side" anymore. You become a part of the Root and lose all interest in everything because you're already complete. It's pretty much the same as dying. You're most certainly not keeping your human ego.

>Aoko was pretty much worsening the future heat death of the universe and making shit worse than time paradoxes
Yeah, but my point is the Fifth Magic seems to be pretty dangerous in general. Which is why it's likely incompatible with Touko, who is a more rational person than Aoko.

>but most people didn't seem interested in talking about it
It's interesting. Magic seems to be a pyramid and it goes downhill after the Third, the Sixth seems to be the worst of all.

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>>42373942
Magic are the final tasks left for humanity after all. I think the Sixth Magic is meaningful in the sense Crimson Moon is waiting for the Sixth to appear in order to revive so humanity no longer has any surprise left in store.

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>>42373948
Yeah was going to mention the line about the Fifth magic going too far as the Fourth one was hiding. There was also a line about the First Magician having trouble with what Aoko did so it’s kinda setting up the Alice vs Aoko fight again or whoever holds the first magic.

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>>42364669
>Even vampire Shiki struggled against Noel in Ciel's route.
He had her in check in about 2 minutes of fighting and just didn't finish. He outskilled DA Noel pretty hard despite being a hard counter to him on paper, just like he did normal Noel as a human.
I get that people want to say that he should simply just lose because he gets big numbered on and scaler muh lore brain makes that seem simple but you're all forgetting that this is a story with characters that have personalities and skills and not just a stat stick vs battle simulator, as people tend to do when they read off a wiki. Noel loses, more than anything else, because she is Noel. Getting much stronger doesn't fix stupid.
>It still required his Nanaya skills
Those are his skills

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>>42373970
Marisbury from FGO mentions wanting another path to the root that no one else has taken so I imagine we’ll get some Sixth magic talk as there’s a theory that he’s doing all of the stuff he does in FGO to enter the Root or achieve the Sixth magic.

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>>42373948
>Sixth
that doesn't exist... though?

>Which is why it's likely incompatible with Touko
Aren't we just agreeing with each other? We both acknowledge this fact, even if for slightly different reasons.
In any case, it could be pointed that all magic is dangerous.

>You're most certainly not keeping your human ego.
>"God" you won't care about "this side" anymore.
While I mostly agree with you, I feel the need to point out that, despite the fact I hate it, FGO has shown that god manipulated Solomon's actions to create a situation where Chaldea would be able to defeat Goetia in the future, so I would say that whomever touched that place first still has some interest despite anything else.
In any case, obtaining all the knowledge in existence and being able to overwrite reality to be whatever you like will probably end up being really lonely.

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>>42374002
I do like the fact that Souji said that the God that’s doing all of this just wants people to enter the Root to meet new friends since they’re probably lonely.