DJT - Daily Japanese Thread #3451

[Anonymous No.]

GUIDE:
https://learnjapanese.moe
https://animecards.site
Resources:
https://itazuraneko.neocities.org/#read
Japanese Subtitles:
https://kitsunekko.net/
Immersion:
https://live.fc2.com
Output:
https://skypech.com
Read more. and listen!
Ignore TATSUMOTO and Vtubers spam
https://streamable.com/6nlhff
Ignore TATSUMOTO and Vtubers spam

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fapanese

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today i will
learn 15 new cards and do 150 reviews

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>>42104672
quit learning cards and start learning japanese lmao

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地方から優秀な生徒を集めー
去年からかなり補強にはかっている
retard question which はかる would this be and does it even matter?

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>>42104998
fuck it's をはかっている　NOT に

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馬子にも衣装

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裏で糸を引く

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soon

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never order steak in japan

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what's your favorite font?

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>>42105150
gothic

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>>42105127
?????????????

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>Ignore TATSUMOTO and Vtubers spam
based. finally a real djt thread

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is clipboard inserter broken? any fixes?

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>>42105398
this is why you dont update unless its broken

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I will never watch hololive.

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>>42105398
there's another one that works but i'm too lazy to give you the name or the link sorry goodluck

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>>42105558
yes nisanji is where it's at

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>>42105558
yea its a cringe eop pandering company
>>42105574
based

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>>42105558
based nijichad

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>>42105558
gmi 発言

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Can't wait for the influx of new year resolution friends that are learning Japanese so they can understand their vtuber waifu!

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>>42105558

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>>42105660
excited to flex on them

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when she sees you still repping anki

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>>42105660
based same!

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when i tell her we can do our reps together

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The core decks is giving retarded words like surgical operation and i think this is the third word for production. What isthis useless shit? Where is furniture, apples, borrow and opinion? Normal fucking words.

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>>42105660
more excited for when they slowly fizzle out

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>>42105728
guess what if you actually start reading and listening you'll encounter all those words including the 3 different production words, also you'll have to learn what they mean in the language instead of just english definitions.

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>>42105752
>reading
>before knowing how to read
I spend hours finding out what としても means yesterday and I didn't figure it out. I won't waste more time reading.

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>>42105728
All of those are in the core2k except furniture which is 2831

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>>42105781
>reading before knowing how to read
how else are you going to learn to read, retard-kun?

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>>42105805
When I am ready, which I am obviously not.

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>>42105728
you should throw that deck outand make your own anon
>>42105781
you learn to read by reading
find easier things to read like tadoku or hukumusume, or some easy manga, or what have you
you can't learn to read japanese (or anything else) from anki, especially using a deck that is in english.
you aren't even learning a larty trick or trivia because the words are super common
the hard part of learning japanese is getting your brain to process the alien structure of the language, and that's what will take you a long time
you can do that now or you can leave it for later, but it will not get easier no matter how many english definitions you memorize

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>>42105826

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>>42105832
It would be much easier if I knew that I could ask here if I encounter something like I mentioned and didn't get "lol retard feel it out" as the only answer.

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>>42104998
誤植だとおもうよ

>去年からかなり補強にかかっている

まあこうよね

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>>42105874
We're all forever friends here :^)

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>>42105874
its 4chan, its full of both trolls, and helpful bros. ignore the former, thank the later. just ask, more often than not, people answer, sometimes, they are even right
good luck and keep at it bro!

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>>42105911
tfw the trolls are more helpful than the beginners that try to help

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>>42104998
>>42105877
ちょっと正確じゃなかった

こっちでもいけるね

>去年からかなり補強をはかっている

計る：はかる：計画的な行動で実際に実行中に使う

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>>42105099
reminder that trash is now an alternative you don't have to put up with this

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>>42104644
Current thread: #3451

Previous threads:
>>42087121 #3450
>>42074694 #3449
>>42067760 #3448
>>42056213 #3447
>>42042734 #3446

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schizo still replying to himself in the old thread lmaooo

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https://files.catbox.moe/v9df6p.jpg

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>>42105911
Ok, the next time I see toshitemo and it won't click, I will ask.

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>see anon going lmaoooo
>check old thread
>no posts for over two hours

huh

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Maybe the real schizo was the posts his voices made along the way...

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>>42106132
lmao

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わしぞ

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Flashcards from the World War 2 period.

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>>42105660
>tfw started last week
Totally not a new years resolution, haha

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補強されたら困る側からは

>謀る

補強しないでほしいけど補強されてる

の意味でもとおる

はかるは

一般的なＪＳＬに知られているようにかなり難しいとおもうよ

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>>42105994
it’s pretty sad tbdesu
>>42106101
who are you quoting

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>>42106213
そう？

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>時間を計る
>距離を測る
>体重を量る

これでファック漢字システムって

思わないでくれっていうのは

ちょっと無理があるとおもうよ

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now back to reading

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>>42106492
17 new cards btw

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オワ㍑

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I only come to these threads to laugh at ngmis

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all me

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>>42104644
Anyone here willing to gift me some ideas for a japanese engrish or native RPG skill name alternative?

In japanese, an active skill is often just called a skill or art, I want to make use of that, but I also want a regular western skill system too, and I'm struggling on a name. Proficiency makes sense to me, but it feels a little off theme to use that name. any ideas?

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stfu

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アニメなんだけど

２０２３冬が

なろう地獄っていわれてる

なろうはこのすばで終わったから

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japan needs to abolish katakana asap
i can't stand reading this shit

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How's the immersion going djt?
Just started reading golgo
Shits cash

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>>42106823
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU2q6F50BbM
miko finally got the shiny, only 3004 eggs!

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>>42106876
holy based
WAGMI

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>>42106806
I feel the same way. I *hate* reading large amounts of katakana, but it could be worse. Pre-war, and even more so pre-Meiji, it was almost entirely written in just kanji and katakana, as katakana, with its angular shapes, was thought to better complement the appearance of kanji.

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>>42106671
“Skill”, “art”, and “proficiency” would all be covered by 能, but that probably isn’t what your looking for.

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>>42106151
Holy shit, you own those? I’ d love to have that.

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>>42106492
What the fuck is that number? Almost 700 cards? I would take entire day from morning to night to do that many cards. How do you remember all of that? Ornam I retarded?

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>>42106939
>能
I actually considered gift for a bit, but I'm not sure thats a great idea in japanese. wouldnt it be a little wierd? I don't hate it though, but thought it might be confusing in conversation.

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Do you guys bother mining katakana when it's just an english word? I guess you still need to memorise it so you quickly know what it is, right?

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>>42106968
It can be important. Loan words in any language tend to be used in much narrower ways.

Example: デザート only refers to those foods eaten after the main meal, and that even includes things like coffee; it doesn’t not refer to those foods — usually sweet — which *happen* to be typically eaten at such a time.

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how about you immerse in some bitches instead

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>>42106954
I don't pay enough attention to anki to know what these stats all mean. I just have really shit retention and memory so I have to lots of cards again and again and again.

I just don't remember anything

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>>42106968
only mine words that are too alien, like ローソク (candle) and then i delete them...
theres no point in mining things you can read, ideally youll develop a concept of the words just like you do with english
your objective is not to mine the entire japanese language, just the words you want to know right now for whatever reason
most words will just appear in your mind as if by magic if you immerse enough, just as english ones do

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>>42106990
That word isn’t foreign, though, it’s native, but most people don’t know the kanji, 蠟燭. It’s technically ロウソク, but usually misspelled for some reason as ローソク. That’s how I usually see it when I see candles for sale.

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>>42106998
neat, acquired 蠟燭, thanks!

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さむすぎて

コーヒー５はい

りょくちゃ３ばいのんだら

カフェインあたった

きもちわるい

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>>42107010
蠟 often appears in a simplified form of 蝋, just to be warmed.

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>>42106998

like 蠟燭 much better than 蝋燭 and both over katakana

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>>42107019
yeah i knew that one already, had never seen the non simplified one (that i remember)

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hey anon, it's ジャップ not ジャプ

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>>42107034
Me too. 蠟 (wax) 燭 (torch) captures “candle” pretty
well. And the aesthetics of 蠟 are much nicer.

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>>42107050
agree 100%
i love how detailed the non simplified versions of kanji are, they look so cool and elegant.

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>>42107066
The 旁 of 蠟 is a pictograph of an animal’s mane, source character for 鬣. Definitely one of the cooler-looking ones.

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u shouldnt post in this thread unless you know all the kanjis

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https://streamable.com/ksyy82

ムズい

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>>42107087
>蠟
>鬣
mined 3 years ago
n6

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>>42107122
https://streamable.com/j9d5f0

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Am I the only that thinks this word makes absolutely no sense?
To me it seems like it should mean the exact opposite of what it does...

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miss j miss q miss m
bros what i would give to go back to the djt golden era

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>>42107180
That form historically derived from a contraction of the verb’s 未然形 and the auxiliary verb む. In the older form: 隠さむ.

む had a number of functions including marking intention, obligation, and also potential. 隠そう would probably be interpreted as a remnant of the potential, so 何を隠そう could be read as “what could I possibly hide?”

There are worse offenders in the “mean the opposite of what it should” camp, like 怪しからぬ, which grammatically negates the adjective 怪し, but came to somehow be misunderstood as intensifying it.

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>>42107180
to me it seems like you are a big retard and u should stop using english to try to learn japanese

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>>42107207
yeah its a sad state of affairs

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よりもいみてた

あたしはとてもgoodなアニメだとおもうよ

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>>42107242
kys

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how do I cope with my inadequecy complex at being good at absolutely nothing and watching as eveyone else surpasses me in life whilst I drown in my inborne weakness?

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>>42107772
You take two steps back and realise they are going to die as well.

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>>42105826
>When I am ready
dangerous mindset, you'll end up wasting months and months doing a shitty core deck and going nowhere
no matter how much you prepare, reading is always a slog at first

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>>42105826
Listen to these other anons and get reading as soon as you can, and read what you WANT to read. if you don't want to read peppa pig or that one VN then don't.

if you're really overwhelmed by all the new words then do a little more core deck but don't ever get focused on it because core decks are the #1 gains killer because you learn almost nothing and grind yourself down

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I was looking at a thread elsewhere and someone said they're in the intermediate zone between n4 and n3.
The JLPT is fucking evil.

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>>42107772
i don't think people ever do
even at the highest levels of competition the #2 people broke down and cried over the people they never could beat

>>42107795
that's just the biggest crab in the bucket cope possible tho
if it's all about death and nothing matters then why don't we all just kill ourselves now?

>>42108101
>and read what you WANT to read.
i tried that and i misunderstood like half the story lol
it was whitenoising

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>>42108282
n3 is prebeginner tho

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>pushed anki back because too tired from wageslavery
>over 300 anki cards piled up over a week
man
maybe i should just quit my job

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>>42108316
Yes, exactly...

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i can read 神咒神威神楽 with minimal look up but i probably wouldn't even be able to pass n4 because im doing zero output and would fail at grammar questions i don't even know when you're supposed to use をする or がする most of the time
same thing with english been reading for 15 years now and i still forget to add an s to verbs in third person
reading is a meme

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>>42108320
lol 300 cards is less than what i do everyday

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>>42108408
you will never beat me lol

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>>42108395
You don't need output for jlpt at all.
You know what's more natural simply from natural Japanese input.

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>>42108395
so you can't read anything you only know word readings lmao

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>>42108395
>>42108424
>>42108432
I can't even write a single paragraph in my native language without making a grammatical mistake or having to look up a word i forgot but want to use , does that mean im not fluent in my native language then? I don't know what's the jlpt equivalent for it but I probably couldn't pass if it has a writing segment and I have been reading every days since i was 3
writing is something you have to study and practice everyday to get good at but it's not the same as language fluency which you only have to get used to with tons of input

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>>42108395
how long have you been reading in jp?

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>>42108560
cooope

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>>42108395
>がする
jesus christ

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>>42106968
mining anything that isn't kanji is completely pointless.
if you can already read it, you'll just acquire it through reading anyway, so what's the point?
only mine words you can't read cause it has a kanji you don't know, an irregular reading, or you just couldn't read it when you encountered it for whatever reason
I can't believe there are people wasting time mining shit like がっかり or 事実 or something
or that guy in that old thread who mined 猫舌 lol (which is fine if he didn't already know both 猫 and 舌, which I doubt)

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>>42108395
your understanding of Japanese is an illusion if you can't read your own Japanese back and see how the meaning differs when you use を vs が

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>>42108560
same in my native language, but not to the extent of every paragraph

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>>42108891
ねこじた is probably not one's first guess
>>42106968
you mine something to put into your SRS because you want to see it over and over again
there's merit to adding it as >>42106984 pointed out. some words may also have unintuitive katakana-zations.
it's not the worst thing to block a card if it outlives its usefulness.

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>>42104644
Barely ok OP, no Christmas feel whatsoever. Won't help me study during these festive days 6/10

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mined がっかり

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>>42108999
yeah but it's done after one lookup
plus even someone who falsely thought it was ねこした (only if they're white noise reading and not looking shit up I guess) would never mix it up if they heard ねこじた during listening

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>>42109035
djt is mainly populated by chinks and muslims so they don't do Christmas

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>>42109035
why is it always uppercasers that are "studying" japanese

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after waiting a month, i got my kanken 2級 results. i'm glad to have used based advice from /DJT/. if not for them, i'd probably end up a dekinai. remember to read more and love imoutos frens

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>>42109209
拍手
What were some of the most helpful tips from here?

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>>42109209
based, is that the second hardest one? dunno how the ranking system works

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>>42109209
>kanken 2
n6

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>>42109268
high schoolers regularly pass it, it tests the basic 2000 kanji

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what exactly is whitenoising? Is it just anything that isn't 100% actively consumed?

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>>42109250
>just use anki and ignore all the meme sites and apps (educational games like duolingo, shitty srs like jpdb/bunpro/whatever else, flavour of the month new sites, shit in retarded japanese written for learners)
>get all the otaku media and more from itazuraneko/nyaa/AB
>read more
>literally, just spend time reading and watching things you enjoy to improve

>>42109268
it's the third hardest one, 準１級 and １級 are higher levels, and they are much more difficult. 2級 is relatively easy all things considered (only jouyou kanji, so with exception of ~5 kanji, you're bound to see them all no matter what media you consume, and it's the case for words too. the hardest part is to ensure you can reliably write from memory, but it's a matter of regular practice moreso than something inherently difficult. the biggest part of vocabulary learning for 2k was yojijukugo section simply because how rare they are compared to words in 読み and other sections, they were easy to remember because nearly all of them are distinctive and have somewhat interesting background stories they are derived from)

>>42109269
unironically yes, 準１級 is where the real difficulty starts, alas it's a shame you can't take it overseas

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is that supposed to be 令和 why does it look like 今和

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>>42109334
>it's a shame you can't take it overseas
yes you can

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>>42109300
probably different people using it here have different definitions. I think of it as listening to something and not really understanding anything. Also contrary to what other people say I think white noising (by my definition) is useful and even necessary at the beginning cause at first you won't understand shit even if they're using vocab you memorized. You need to get your brain used to the language first before it can use anything you're trying to learn if that makes sense. It increasingly becomes a waste of time though, as your ear becomes increasingly capable of parsing the language, the main thing holding you back is unignorably your tiny vocabulary, so listening to shit you still cant understand sharply loses effectiveness. Again thats all by MY definition

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>>42109340
difference between computer fonts and the way they are written by hand, pic related

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>>42109286
>>42109334
oh, wait so why bother doing it at all? just for fun?

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>>42109355
its a certificate that shows you can write basic japanese, it can be useful for jobs

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>>42109209
>frens
that's a stroke order and list readings exam
don't really need reading comprehension for that

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>>42109366
cant you get jobs with n1?

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>>42109377
k2 is a little more impressive than n1. people who want to dick measure usually go for pre 1 and 1

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>>42109377
kk is for natives
kk2 tests for all jouyou

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>>42109375
this
i passed multiple２級 mock tests a year ago and i definitely dont have great comprehension

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>>42109390
im not sure i follow, why would a native need a certificate to prove he can write jouyou?

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>>42109405
because the japanese school system sucks
every high school graduate should technically be capable of passing 2kyuu. but for learners using anki its not difficult

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>>42109354
its over

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>>42109355
yes, just for fun, i find learning meme words and sayings enjoyable. being able to write by hand feels nice too. also, handwriting practice somewhat helps with remembering words imo

>>42109345
the highest level offered in venue i took 2k was 2k itself, maybe they offer j1k and 1k in asian (china, etc) testing centres. if j1k is really offered in european testing centres too, i'll eventually take it as well

>>42109375
you're right, it's not a practical japanese exam, the process of studying for it was kinda fun though, and there's some satisfaction of achieving a goal, even if the goal is worthless in itself.

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>>42109433
where did you take it? pre 1 is offered in north america

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>>42109442
i took it in europe, the centre in dusseldorf. wasn't aware that each centre can decide range of levels it provides

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>>42109457
https://www.kanken.or.jp/kanken/personal/interior/overseas.html
>検定日や申込方法、受検可能な級などの詳細につきましては、各会場のご担当者様へ直接お問い合わせください。
it very clearly indicates that the availability of levels could vary between centers lol

[Anonymous No.]

How much do I need to learn beforehand to maximize how much I get out of immersion? Applied for the JET program and it would be nice to have a baseline.

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>>42109588
2k words
https://anacreondjt.gitlab.io/docs/coredeck/

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>>42109588
enjoy getting sent to bumfuck nowhere lol

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did my reps today boys.
have you done yours?

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>>42108891
That's neko and tongue right? "5 mouths make tongue" Don't know how to read it...

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>>42109731
i dont do anki anymore but i spoke japanese

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>>42108789
あのんくんの日本語が上手くない気がする

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>>42108891
awful take
for rare words its often much easier to remember readings than meanings
and there is nothing wrong with mining 猫舌. it could mean spiky or coarse for all you know. (inb4 context, i didnt even know that cats were averse to eating hot things, im not a fucking cat, so it could also mean not liking cold food etc).
if you do happen to know the "cats tongue" expression in english already, it came from 猫舌 so of course you dont have to mine it. but i have only ever heard it used in japanese.

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>>42109857
its kinda like saying "why would you mine 侘び寂び"

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gooooood afternoon

yooo
https://youtu.be/NjtIAuZQN_E

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>>42109209
Congratulations

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>>42109857
Yeah, I didn't know it means anything of that sort. I took it literally. I mean, what other option I have? How do you go from cat's tongue to coarse or liking cold food?

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>>42106968
I have never mined レジャー and everytime i see it i don't know what the fuck it means

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>>42109857
>i'm not a fucking cat
time to transition

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>>42108891
Yeah because all katakana words are super obvious like コンセント…

[Anonymous No.]

HTM-019

[Anonymous No.]

acquired コンセント

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If I have to look something up I mine it. Simple as.

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>>42109731
dont do anki either

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the Yuzusoft games are on sale on GOG and unlike Steam they at least let you download the unrated patch straight from them
they're discounted in order of old to new, what's the best value for money for practicing my nihongo?
i like the designs in the newer ones the most but they're the most expensive
i'll be playing on my comfy deck

also Ao Kana series + all DLC is on sale on Steam but I kind of don't want to support it on that platform on principle

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So if I'm understanding the guide right, I learn Kana, then Grammar/Vocab at the same time. When I finish N5+N4 (However long that takes), then I can start to look at immersing and reading/watching native japanese media to get started?

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>>42110140
riddle joker and senren banka were both great

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>>42110140
just pirate them all retard

[Anonymous No.]

why dont you just pirate them

[Anonymous No.]

Hi guys! Don't know if I can do this(if I cant let me know and will delete) but I thought about documenting my Japanese journey.
Just uploaded the first video if anyone wants to swing by

https://youtu.be/IxaCjFngqe4

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>>42110155
>n levels
doesn't matter, retarded metric
kana shouldn't take too long, just focus on it and get rid of romaji asap
skim a grammar guide and start a core deck, start reading at the same time and look up words and grammar structures you dont know
easy stories: http://hukumusume.com/DOUWA/0_6/index.html
read what you enjoy though

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You may be studying the language, but you are not respecting the culture.

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never pirate vinnies or linnies
always pirate manga and anime

dunno why

[Anonymous No.]

i never bought a single japanese product in my entire life and never will
still using them to learn their language so i can travel there and steal their girls

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>>42110234
distribution problem
games and books you can go more places than manga and anime where you're limited to using their platform and it probably requires you to be online

>>42110249
post face and body or you're not stealing shit

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>>42110265

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is it really stealing if they ignore them for 2d anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>42109601
>surgery
>monetary
>transaction
>management
>two words for temperature
>A fucking 起 in billion forms that are completely unrelated to each other
>three words for manufacture, industry and price
>Every single form of 長 known to leadership
>weird words like ta, 他, ka 可...
That deck is pile of shit. There are no real everyday words like shoes, fork, tumbler, chair, grass, apple, box, jacket, window... Nouns and verbs you need. No, here you go: 制度 and 書き直す important shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110287
how can this be you when it's me?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110070
Concert?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110299
this, do wanikani instead they got all those

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110287

well played

>>42110312

you wish

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>42109857
if your vocabulary intake so slow you only learn as much as you mine, you may have a ghost of a point. but if you're actually trying to learn this language thats now how this works.
you don't know what almost any Japanese word means when you first encounter it, you ape. that's what dictionaries are for.
>>42109868
are you actually braindead enough to mine that? hilarious if true lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>42109340
Looks like a font problem.

[Anonymous No.]

oh no no no

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110700
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>42107087
very cool!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110700
us just immersing in makima like bros

[Anonymous No.]

For those who don't like VN, what is the best material to practice reading?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110864
https://streamable.com/7gguvq

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110700
the japs were right
this is trash aimed at westoids

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110864
actual books. but i assume you'd get btfod by them so manga is fine in the interim

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110886
>trash aimed at westoids
yoooo exclusively tailored to me!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42110524
>are you actually braindead enough to mine that? hilarious if true lol
https://youtu.be/77FNTwy5LEY?t=38

[Anonymous No.]

waiting for the chainsaw man subs cause my tvs speakers are so fucking bad that i cant even understand anything raw and im too lazy to get up and get my headset

[Anonymous No.]

Where i can find tokusatsu thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>speakers
arent you worried about yourneighbours hearing all the porn and anime you watch

[Anonymous No.]

no i blast the speakers extra loud then

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111122
to attract jks?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111078
i put my headphones on for porn

[Anonymous No.]

いかにも

[Anonymous No.]

西風騎士団遊撃小隊隊長 mined

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111329
>needing to mine this

[Anonymous No.]

So I've spent two weeks on Duolingo and have like 6k xp, and I honestly am having fun and can already say stuff like

ホテルはそこですか？

or like

モリさんはかっこいいです！

and what's neat is I'm actually already hearing stuff that I can translate in my head automatically, like when watching the last episode of Bleach, I understood そこですか？ Before reading the subs. I know that Duolingo isn't going to be the only way to learn and is really just for beginners getting started, but I was already getting burned out on Anki cards after three days and finding I have exponentially more review each day, and I feel like I'm getting more gains just going through Duolingo every day.

[Anonymous No.]

lmao ep1 of s2 leaked early?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111338
another poor sod embarks on the arduous journey to the top of mount stupid. fair winds and following seas, retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111338
>Duolingo
dont https://streamable.com/b4b0kq

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111365
dont samefag morfatty

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111338
I think you would greatly benefit from the RTK (based)

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111437
meds

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111437
dont mind the poor chud hes not well

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111367
She got it wrong, what's the issue?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42109885
ksonichiwa!
>>42110234
only pirare pirate cosplayers
>>42110700
yooooo! AOAT
>>42110877
yabeee
>>42110911
tasty chicken...
>>42110992
lol
>>42111453
the tako... never returned...

YOOOO gooood morning guys!
today too lets Japanese study time!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111521
yoooo she got permissions for more of the game desuwa!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-bBPmkpQRY

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111338
did you find this on r/learnjapanese or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111538
based, already replayed 1 and 2 and watched the whole series lol
still want to play 3 but every time im about to i dont instead
maybe after i finish astlibra

[Anonymous No.]

>>42105728
core2k etc is made from occurrences in newspapers. newspapers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111551
no I set my keyboard up so I can easily switch between English, Hiragana, and Katakana. It's pretty great, I just wish the app and the website weren't so different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42107087
nice, acquired
>>42105728
林檎 apple!
家具 furniture
意見、見解 opinion!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111538
wait, that's the first game. they have to ask permission for each part? jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111601
make sure to look up explanations for grammar since duolingo doesn't teach that

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111630
yeah, danganronpas producer ONLY gave permissions for the first and second chapter, they really don't want anyone getting spoiled i guess...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111639
Will do, I'm not intending it to be my only resource, for now though, it's really helping me stay consistent because I find the gaining XP aspect of it and clearing small sections addicting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111659
you should be addicted to learning japanese instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111538
kino games and anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGWnFu5K3X4

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111654
isn't it like a decade old? like it was a psp game

[Anonymous No.]

wtf does 乾ならぬ mean

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111675
kek yeah, but they rereleased 12 and 3 for switch sorta recently, it has a cool extra game too, well worth at least a dl
>>42111672
yeah that anon needs vbijin!

[Anonymous No.]

need some vbij immersion
hard mode: no screaming or annoying voice vbijins

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111672
>Nooooooo you can't do it this way!!!! I suffered by grinding Anki and mining, therefore it's the only proper way to do it!!

[Anonymous No.]

spent the last 3 hour watching beethoven concerts on youtube

[Anonymous No.]

>>42104644
what is the difference between hara hetta and onaka suita

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111685
Where'd you get it? Is it transcribed right? なり is an old copula so ならぬ is じゃない

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111723
suffering is necessary, there's no easy way to break out of pre-beginnerdom

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111721
yoo try hakui koyori! shell be streaming most all christmas! shes great and her voice is soothing!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111721
watame, towa, botan, maybe rui, chloe?
define annoying
iroha and okayu too
>>42111774
yoooo

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111770
I mean that'll happen eventually. At some point I'll feel like my gains are slowing and I'll search out other methods, at this point though, it's really good to get people consistent with practice. I just think it's a better beginner tool than telling someone to start diving headfirst into Anki cards right after memorizing the Kana. Duolingo slowly ramps up the sentences and introduces vocab at an even pace from what I'm seeing, which is exactly how you keep people engaged and learning how to combine words.

This is unironically an "The future is now old man" type situation. It's simply a better way to start learning a language.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111811
i dunno
i dove headfirst onto all that and im glad i did, looking back i saved a lot of time, things really didn't start clicking until i begam reading and listening daily and had all definitions in nip
different things work for different people but i see people giving up on decks and restarting endlessly enough to be glad the first thing i did was mine my own deck
im sure im missing words i "should" know that are in there, but ill get them eventually unless i stop, and i don't forse see myself stopping
i didn't come this far to only come this far

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111721
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka9U5Gm0gO0
best vbijin stream in a long time

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111864
that stream was great!
30 year olds rejoiced kek
the mahjong tournament was great too, koyo did a great job

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111811
>It's simply a better way to start learning a language.
you haven't even learned japanese yet so you can't really say this...

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111745
nvw it was a name and a reference to this guy
https://dic.pixiv.net/a/%E4%B9%BE%E8%B2%9E%E6%B2%BB

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111909
when a dumb beginner is this arrogant it makes their inevitable failure more enjoyable

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111937
there'll be a lot of them here in january

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111940
vbased! so many new friends to watch vbijin with!

[Anonymous No.]

so that's what the thread's going to be huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111946
yooooo!

[Anonymous No.]

not just the thread but i really cant wait for all the noodle armed dyels to swarm on the gym as well. might have to start going at midnight for a few weeks to make it bearable

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111940
holo vbased

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111951
comfy and happy and full of japanese immersion
lets goooo

[Anonymous No.]

duolingo niggas? ngmi

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111958
no one asked normalfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111964
us just being comfy and happy and immersing like bros!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111977
dont give a flying fuck bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111894
>the mahjong tournament was great too, koyo did a great job
never played it sadly so cant really enjoy mahjong streams. is it worth learning? is it similar to poker?

[Anonymous No.]

whats the equivalent of dyel for jp learners

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111958
wow dude you sound like such a strong and tough guy

[Anonymous No.]

this will sound retarded i am aware but how come sometimes theres no particle when i feel one is missing so for example

"今日が夏休み最後の日だ"

i wouldve thought between yasumi and saigo would be a particle like a no, as can be seen between saigo and he

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111977
wrong

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111996
i just hate crowds

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111993
no and no
mahjong is a demon thag destroys mens souls for ABSOLUTELY NO GAIN
unironically may be harder to learn than japanese.
you can try mahjong soul for a taste

[Anonymous No.]

日本語がわかる男に俺はなる

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112033
holy based
yoooo film red is out!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111946
未来最高！

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111338
based anon! dont listen to these elitists, the best resource is the one you do every day! even if duolingo is pretty bad its better than dreading to do ankis and being burnt out

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111811
>which is exactly how you keep people engaged

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112002
please someone enlighten my ass

[Anonymous No.]

people will do anything to avoid putting in the hard work lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112089
feel it out theres no extra meaning either way

[Anonymous No.]

wanted to post the trophy duolingo gave me for finishing their japanese course but after logging in turns out they added new stuff and its gone
sad

[Anonymous No.]

me to the right

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112073
actually true
>>42112084
actually interesting stuff, pigeons and other animals get addicted to gambling just like people do! even kemonomimi!
>>42112089
sometimes particles are there, sometimes they arent, nips tend to drop particles, chunks of words, parts of sentences, parts of words, panties, etc all the time
nips love dropping things, theres no easy rule anyone can give you, if you even see two nips speaking casually irl you will likely not understand a thing, its unlike anything you see in any media
>>42112098
sucks, sorry bro (unironically, i know how that sorta stuff feels and it sucks)

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112108
陰キャみたい

[Anonymous No.]

Can i change an english vinny to japanese? Just erase a patch somewhere?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112117
だけど陰キャじゃないってニュアンスのこといってるけどいい？

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112127
depends on the vinny

[Anonymous No.]

big announcement later

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112204
matt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112204
>big announcement
new yuzusoft vinnie in april!
https://www.yuzu-soft.com/products/ten_sz/index.html

[Anonymous No.]

とにかく、自殺しろ

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112252
yoooooo!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112252
>>42112305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otBVGzmA07s

isekai chugger bros, we won

[Anonymous No.]

>AI
>Onaka Suita is a katakana character for "onahole".
THX AI

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112325
可愛すぎいいいいい！

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112252
fucking finally

[AI No.]

>>42111728
Both mean "empty" or "lacking.", "onaka suita" is polite

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112138
Saya no Uta. There is only English versions on sukebe

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112349
>>42112407
https://streamable.com/5mtx2x

[Anonymous No.]

>j-j dictionaries say 3 mori word is (1) (atamadaka)
>VN girl says it (2) (nakadaka)
how do we cancel her VA

[Anonymous No.]

>bitch accent
nobody cares

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112421
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/42206

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112422
a small house!

[Anonymous No.]

Just lapsed on お玉 again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112438
oh nonononnono

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112407
thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112641
im not

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112641
what sort of mental illness results in this being your fetish

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112682
Idk but its pretty cool for me

[Anonymous No.]

WHAT THE FUCK
IT'S LIKE FUCKING MAGIC
I BOOTED UP A REMAKE OF AN OLD VN I GAVE UP READING BECAUSE I WAS TOO DUMB
NOW THOUSANDS OF VOCAB LATER I CAN READ IT????????????????????????????/
BROS
WHAT THE FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112711
local man discovers the concept of doing something making you better at said thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112711
holy based and gmi pilled

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112724
my butt is fucking SORE from the hours and hours i spent studying but god damn.............. fucking paying off...................

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112750
do you ever elevate your fat ass from your chair? you're in this thread 24/7

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112750
holy gay and fail

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112641
every thread i report this bullshit and every thread he returns.
it must be one of the fucking jannies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112641
pic not related

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112790
tatsuhomo has been banned dozens of times. maybe he just restarts his router and hasn't gotten range banned yet for whatever reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112790
im posting off 4g and i can just switch to 3g and back again and get a new ip every time
Also the rangebans go away quickly

[Anonymous No.]

ew ew ew EW DELETE THIS SHIT NOW

[Anonymous No.]

they fear bunko

[Anonymous No.]

anyway the posts will stop soon
enjoy they if you can

[Anonymous No.]

makes sense dunno why you stuck around for so long

[Anonymous No.]

Anki android killer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113079
we need to start mocking uppercasers again

[Anonymous No.]

what's the term/phrase that japs sometimes use to describe themselves as being a good middle or combination of the east and west?

[Anonymous No.]

retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113219
和洋折衷かな

[Anonymous No.]

>>42105398
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/lap-clipboard-inserter/

[Anonymous No.]

>>42104644
>>42104669
>>42104729

Fixed Flexible Grading for Anki 2.1.55

Anki 2.1.55 has been released just recently. Because Anki devs hate the users, they broke everything again. I had to fix Flexible Grading to make it work on the new version.

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1715096333

[Anonymous No.]

あたしは

にほん独立したいのよ

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112711
Based anon, the first time I went through this I also felt great

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/V4simApUbuI

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113274
>Flexible Grading
whats this

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113428
this is the pre-beginner thread, not the pre-pre-beginner thread

[Anonymous No.]

I feel bad for all of you who aren't as smart as me

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113445
tatsucuckhold spam

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113238
thanks bro

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

yooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8trXaw_xgAQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>42112711
wait till you start understanding songs, amazing feeling

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113445
>whats this
explained here https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1715096333

[Anonymous No.]

>>42109209
Nice, congrats.

It’s pretty rare to see someone else actually take kanken. It’s mostly just a meme around here.

>>42109514
Huh, weird. There’s no level restriction here in Moonland. I remember taking 二級 in a very small town, but the info sign in the lobby gave directions for all levels. Since here are no special considerations for offering any given level, I don’t see why it would be restricted.

[Anonymous No.]

おはようおにいちゃん

室内で息が白い

なんとさむいあさでしょう

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113769
this is why im learning japanese

[Anonymous No.]

Updated Paste Images As WebP

Added an option to source filename from a custom field when pasting an image. The new option is available in Settings. Thanks to people who suggested it.

https://ankiweb.net/shared/info/1151815987

[Anonymous No.]

>>42109209
>kanken 2
the first djt'er to ascend from pre-beginner to beginner
i fucking kneel

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113776

[Anonymous No.]

>>42111338
hey, listen to this >>42109334 guy :)

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

need help
>君が子供の頃に何度か顔を合わせた事はあったが、このなりではね。
I understand first part means "you met me several times as a child", but what does
>このなりではね。
mean?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113776
Hah, I had omrice for dinner last night. Good comfort food.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113776
roboco just casually mogging everyone lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113837
なり is "state of affairs as they have now come to be," the noun form of なる, a "becoming"

So "Now that things have come to this..." (and the conslusion was either already stated, is stated next, or left to the reader)

[Anonymous No.]

Often the speaker is saying that the listener is in bad shape. Could be looking down on them. I suppose there could be other interpretations, what's the context?

[Anonymous No.]

older women on hellotalk think im a scammer
its ova

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113876
what do you message them? Just ask them if they want to talk on the phone

[Anonymous No.]

>>42113837
なり

はつおんは特殊で平板

神前に出られないようなときを

このなりでは（出られない）

という

[Anonymous No.]

mined word number 1000 is... 登録

[Anonymous No.]

>>42114259
Congrats bro. 登録 was 2236th for me.

[Anonymous No.]

少し古い表現だけど

>なりの悪い

あるいは

>身なりの悪い

という表現があるよ

>馬子にも衣裳

という表現もいっしょにａｎｋｉしてね

がんばれおにいちゃん

[Anonymous No.]

Is there some good app to read web novels on Android? I mean directly from the sites rather than converting to ebooks or whatever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42114259
holy based, grats
>>42114282
i have no idea what mine was :(
maybe deleting cards wasn't such a good idea after all...
>>42114394
like a browser? use kiwi if on android, it runs all chrome addons so...

[Anonymous No.]

今日の曲
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-dMrhGdCms

[Anonymous No.]

>>42114477
I was looking for something to handhold me keeping track of what I read and new updates like tachiyomi for manga.

[Anonymous No.]

yooooo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjtIAuZQN_E

[Anonymous No.]

>>42114665
kek the blade runner references

[Anonymous No.]

i've been gone for a year what have been the biggest upgrades in japanese learning technology like the smart workflow invented by QM

[Anonymous No.]

>>42114760
vbijin

[Anonymous No.]

>>42114774
vbased

[Anonymous No.]

>>42114665
kino

[Anonymous No.]

安価で１００均で買ってくる

なにがいいですか

[Anonymous No.]

>>42114760
ocr got better i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>42115060
which one is the best

[Anonymous No.]

>>42115088
your eyes

[Anonymous No.]

i don't have eyes

[Anonymous No.]

>>42115088
manga-ocr is the backbone, but aids to use on its own
poricom and cloe are the nearest thing to capture2text
mokuro is 'pre' ocr, you put yout images in and it spits out an html file with ocr already done when you hover over it, good for mobile and tablets where mobile-ocr is shit

[Anonymous No.]

AHHHHHHHHH!

[Anonymous No.]

>>42115088
mokuro which uses manga-ocr makes reading manga way more fun. the ocr itself is also incredibly accurate from my experience, it works on really shitty scans. the only downside is that it takes a pretty long time to convert the files but what can you do. i load up a few volumes before going to sleep but it usually does it within the time it takes me to read the prior volume anyways

[Anonymous No.]

>>42115264
seems cool. i'll try it when i resolve a numpy "module {!r} has no attribute" error i'm getting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42115380
https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1H2EW4c3HTYoBkM7aUNdzh7apbbLPH99n?usp=sharing#scrollTo=ltajWNEqSPIi
just use it here, it does it faster too

[Anonymous No.]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyaru-moji

wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>42115578
kino

[Anonymous No.]

>>42115578
>secret gyaru language
>chart is on wikipedia
you had one job gyaru tachi

[Anonymous No.]

gyaru do not exist anymore

[Anonymous No.]

hololive is 和洋折衷

[Anonymous No.]

>>42115707
the ranka video i just busted a nut to was good enough for me

[Anonymous No.]

>>42115707
wait wha..? b..but i want a gyaru gf.. i.. i learned japanese and everything. well... im working on it anyway... t..they have to exist...
>>42115720
yoooo!

[Anonymous No.]

finna read

[Anonymous No.]

finna lay in bed and watch retarded japanese youtube shorts for an hour

[Anonymous No.]

Is mining really significantly more efficient than just picking useful collab from a big pile and memorizing it raw?
Making cards is kind of a pain. And the plain way is how I learned my basic kanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42116124
I mean, useful vocab

[Anonymous No.]

you do you

[Anonymous No.]

>>42116124
>Making cards is kind of a pain
one click with yomichan

[Anonymous No.]

can someone help me out here? i'm searching for the japanese word for balconet

[Anonymous No.]

>>42116216
is this even a word in english

[Anonymous No.]

I don't remember when it's ~you and when it's ~yuu. I have no 'feels wrong' set in place. What do I do?

[Anonymous No.]

つかうとあまり評判がよくないにほんご

>きょうは寒すぎて億劫だ

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know how I'm spending 7.47s per card, I remember I was at 5s way back. will have to watch this

17 new cards

[Anonymous No.]

>>42116497
Do you also end up with bunch cards you simply don't remember and must hit again or is it just me? Today I ended up with 30 red cards after depleting blue and green ones. I had 9 new and 100 reviews and took me 40 minutes. What you do that you are so fast at remembering?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42116497
I spend a similar amount
>Studied 229 cards in 29.98 minutes today (7.86s/card)
and most of that extra time comes from me letting the time run while not actually considering the card. Drinking, stretching, spacing out, etc. Unless it's actually impacting your ability to do your reps try not to statsfag so much.

[Anonymous No.]

>307 cards in 63 minutes
Why is everyone so fast I am I am so slow?

[Anonymous No.]

>>42116618
Are you relatively new? It gets easier as you go on. In my 10 new cards today there were no new kanji, so that's a huge help.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42116651
Yes. New. But also not really smart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42116618
You're actually doing it properly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>42116659
I just did the math and that's similar to me when starting out so don't worry.