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Okay so I'm recently getting into JAV and god damn you because I can never look at disgusting western women again. Anyway, what goes on with JAV?
It's clearly a big industry with a lot of worldwide demand for the product. and yet all of that product seems to be made freely available from download sites like Onejav and Javjunkies immediately, in high quality file sizes, complete with cover art. Who is doing this? There are several films per day uploaded. Does anyone actually pay for JAV? Why would they?
Next: who makes and distributes it? I suppose the Yakuza are involved but what's their business model when it's free everywhere?
Next: the girls. They clearly don't get paid much because JAV has low production values, clearly low budget, almost gonzo quality porn so how much do the girls get paid? Why do the girls do it? Most of them seem like nice, sweet, normal girls rather than the tattooed drug-addled skanks in western porn. The Japanese girls seem wholesome, which makes it hotter. How do you get a pretty 18 year old girl to volunteer for the most fucked-up shit - jizzed on by fifty men, enema and squirting watery shit halfway across the room, licking some old dude's anus clean, simulated rape etc for clearly not much money?
It's just such a different cultural phenomenon to western porn, I love the whacky, inventive ways they compensate for the mosaic censorship.

>> No.42034544

>>42029685
The thing I learned about JAV recently is that none of the creampies are real. I saw a leaked uncensored JAV and they all use condoms with white liquid in the tip. When they fuck the girl the end breaks loose or something and it looks like they came in the girl, but they didn't. They abuse the fact that it's mosaic'd to hide the fact that it's fake.
The exception seems to be the ones that are sold uncensored like Caribbean or Tokyo-Hot or whatever.

>> No.42035439

>>42034544
how come there aren't uncensored versions routinely available?

>> No.42035490

>>42029685
>>>/jp/jav

>> No.42036072

>>42029685
People pay for JAV for the same reason people buy games when everything is on the internet: less ads, simpler, legal and they want to support the people involved. There's also the factor of culture around JAV because it's similar to idols, they even hold meet and greets so the aspect of rooting for one girl and buying all her stuff is there.

Also, to get that pirated stuff someone has to pay. There are definetely people paying for JAV.

Who distributes it? Usually websites. We used to have r18.com selling to foreigners but they closed very recently. On the JP side Fanza is the most popular distributor (I think...?). You're most likely not wrong about the Yakuza being involved when it comes to "scouting" but I wouldn't say that's the rule.

And the girls do get paid quite a bit ranging from 7k onwards even if you're just starting out or unpopular, actually, the reason why the production value is so low is exactly because of how much they have to pay the actresses sin sometimes they have to pay millions of yen to an actress for a single shoot.

They volunteer to do those extreme films because they pay a lot more than the usual work.

By the way, there are many different archetypes when it comes to actresses: Some are advertised as shy and wholesome, some are straight up succubi and some capitalize on just doing extreme hardcore stuff (vomiting, gokkun, BDSM). The same goes for the western industry, so I don't get what you said about drug-addled tattoed skanks lmao.

>> No.42037170

>>42036072
>The same goes for the western industry, so I don't get what you said about drug-addled tattoed skanks lmao.
I just can't think of a single western porn actress who could be mistaken for a normal, wholesome girl whereas that's the norm for JAV actresses.

>> No.42037193

So who runs Onejav.com? Practically every JAV you could want uploaded quickly in huge file size or compressed with cover art and everything. Who's doing it? Why isn't the industry shutting it down since it must lose them a shitload of money?

>> No.42037279

>>42036072
>the girls do get paid quite a bit ranging from 7k onwards even if you're just starting out or unpopular,

This isn't true at all.

Most AV actresses have to work sidejobs because they aren't making a living doing porn.

>> No.42037497

>>42037279
This. When the film is basically one guy with a cheap digicam and a ringlight filming in a living room how much can the girl be getting?

>> No.42037501

>>42029685
Chinese are the ones pirating and ripping off the Japanese industry

>> No.42037614

>>42036072
7000 yen is not a lot...

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>>42036072
>And the girls do get paid quite a bit ranging from 7k onwards
that's about $50!

>> No.42039116

>>42036072
do you mean $7000? Even that's not much for having twenty random guys in ski-masks wank into my mouth or getting bundled into a van and raped in the woods. I don't know why pretty girls from first-world countries do it, low-self-esteem?

>> No.42039540

>>42037170
>I just can't think of a single western woman who could be mistaken for a normal, wholesome girl whereas that's the norm for JAV actresses.
There I fixed it for you.

>> No.42039593

>>42039116
all of us have our kinks, for some of them when they are getting extremely horny they probably get overwhelmed with the desire to be penetrated by multiple guys

>> No.42039626

>>42037279
The reason they need a side job is because the job isn't consistent. How many actresses do you know that are releasing a new film every week? The only cases I know of is of Workaholics like Yui Hatano and Ai Uehara. Most of them release a film once every 3 or so months, besides the fact that AV actresses aren't known to be wise using money (See; Hoshina Ai in host club debt almost killing herself, Ai uehara getting scammed, Mari Rika having to come out of retirement because she's broke). It is true that some of them get paid real low because their managers are taking advantage of them, but even then they make around 2k at the very least.

>>42037497
Are you talking about FC2 videos? Those are the japanese equivalent to homemade amateur actress director studios, so not much.

>>42038042
>>42037614
In USD

>>42039116
Put it into perspective: 7k is about 3 months of hard minimum wage work, why do that when you can make that in a single film? That is the type of thinking most of them have. Easy, quick money if albeit shameful.

>> No.42041556

>>42034544
I've always been curious to know how they do the fake creampies. I know they are using condoms but wonder how they get the fake cum inside.

>> No.42041793 [DELETED] 

FUCKING FINALLY, NEW YUA ANNOUNCED

>> No.42049943

>>42039540
It's only because western women are ugly so you don't get as easily deceived.

>> No.42049968

Shitfuck mods too busy fapping to cp to check "spam" reports from a spammed 3DPD thread
Kill monkey brains shit mods

>> No.42050338

>>42029685
Shuri Atomi is ugly asf

>> No.42050815

>>42034544
I'm going to be honest. Finding out about the condoms totally ruined JAV for me.
Condoms are such a major turn-off. I can't watch anything with mosaics anymore because I just assume they're lying about it and using condoms.

>> No.42050833

>>42039116
>that's not much for having twenty random guys in ski-masks wank into my mouth or getting bundled into a van and raped in the woods
talk for yourself

>> No.42050846

>>42041556
I think they make them before the shoot happens. They slip them on during a cut or when the camera focuses on the girl.
I think they're basically a regular condom but the tip is separate and has a break away lining. When the guy "cums" he pulls on the condom with his hand at some point which breaks the sealed pouch of fake cum. He then acts like he's cumming and when he pulls out, it looks like a creampie.
Honestly, it's horrible knowing that's what's going on, but if you watch any leaks of any JAV before it got censored, then that is always the case with what's happening behind the mosaic.

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>>42038042
interested? sorry they only hire real women

>> No.42050859

>>42050846
I like knowing that my girl is pure and has never been actually cummed

>> No.42050903

>>42050859
She isn't your girl. You literally watch her have sex with other guys. AV idols are just cuckoldry in disguise.
If they're going to be whores, then they should have to deal with cum like whores do.

>> No.42050948

>>42029685
They are mostly small, locally released things that scope-level match doujin released stuff. No one really has resources, will and knowledge to release them overseas, especially that as you said - there's Yakuza involved and it's not very legal thing most of the times.
People producing and selling them care about these few thousands or so locals will buy official copy. They don't even acknowledge western side.

>> No.42050987

>>42036072
>And the girls do get paid quite a bit ranging from 7k onwards even if you're just starting out or unpopular
Damn, no wonder there's no shortage of new actresses. It pays a lot.

>> No.42052031

Why don't you go to our general?
>>42043973

>> No.42052108

>>42052031
I'm asking more about the hows and whys of JAV rather than "please supply code so I can coom" stuff.

>> No.42052120

>>42052108
>I'm asking more about the hows and whys of JAV
But the general is exactly for that

>> No.42052209

How do I, as a 6 ft 4 in American white guy with a 6 in dick, break into the JAV industry?

I’ve seen some WMAF jav. I’m wondering where they find those guys, because honestly, I’m better looking then the guys I saw and I think I can do it.

>> No.42054841
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42054841

Japan is not a very rich country anymore. The economy has declined since its heyday in the late 80s and early 90s, when it was widely predicted Japan's economy would overtake that of the US in total size. At that time the grounds of the Emperor's Palace in Tokyo were values at more than the state of California. Now after decades of stagnation there is a lot of poverty in Japan, GSP per capita is about equivalent to Italy or Spain.

>> No.42054862

>>42052120
But that's not what it is used for, it's a coomer thread and I'm interested in the cultural, social and economic aspects of this phenomenon and it needs its own thread or any replies will be drowned out.

>> No.42058120

Come join us in the jav general. Free coffee and donuts, just ignore that weird guy in the corner.

>> No.42058387

>>42058120
I've tried discussing this stuff in there and it just gets lost in a sea of coomerposts, it needs its own thread.

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42058398

is it true that vans like this tour the high-end shopping districts and lure young girls with promises of a career in JAV so they can afford those fancy shoes they're looking at?

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