/jp/ - Otaku Culture

[Anonymous No.]

Why is it so hard to get a job /jp/? Why can't society just let this NEET go on the road to recovery? Or is schooling really the only way out? Even normal people are finding it difficult to find jobs, how the hell is a failure like me supposed to get hired? Out of around 15-20 applications, only 1 called back, and I never got the job. ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

Are you in Japan?

[Anonymous No.]

It's easy OP.

To get a job you need to have experience.

To get experience you need to have a job.

Enjoy the choice.

[Anonymous No.]

Education is important to put you ahead of the rest but apparently work experience is more important than education. It's just hard to get that initial work experience...

[Anonymous No.]

Even a part-time job?

[Anonymous No.]

This is where you use "connections" op.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm on my way to a First Class Honours in engineering, OP. I hope I won't have the same problems as you.

[Anonymous No.]

You're probably going to have to do unpaid volunteer work for about a year before you can get a job.

In the future unpaid volunteer work will probably be the only form of employment, and you'll get paid by having a home to live in and food to eat. Good luck if you get fired.

[Anonymous No.]

1) Get in a degree course with a reputable University
2) While doing your final year, apply for a 3month internship somewhere.
3) Graduate with at least 2nd upper honour or CGPA > 3.0.
4) Apply for a fresh graduate position in some shitty company.
5) Enjoy the rat race and kiss your NEET life goodbye.

[Anonymous No.]

Only 15-20? You aren't spamming enough danmaku. Just keep trying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193064
>Enjoy the rat race
Syntax error.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193060
In the future, it will be so easy to get food and shelter that they won't even be a concern for anyone. Also nanofactories.

[Anonymous No.]

Keep trying nigga,

I have personally sent out more than 200 applications and been to 16 interviews before I am hired for this Junior position for tech support.

Now all I do is sit my ass in my cubicle and browse 4chan. Feels good man.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193089
>implying the existence of an easy way of giving shelter and food to everyone would mean everyone gets it
Americans would haaaaate that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193015
I emailed 13, went out to apply on three more. Only one 'accepted' me for training, and the training doesn't mean I'm part of the company. And I'm still waiting for my training schedule.

Shit sucks to look for a job.

>>4193064
>5) Enjoy the rat race and kiss your NEET life goodbye.
Bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193034
Companies are retarded and except you to have the best education, be at worst ~25 years of age and have the work exp of an super oldfag.

YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING STUPIDS

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193034
Companies are retarded and expect you to have the best education, be at worst ~25 years of age and have the work exp of an super oldfag.

YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING STUPIDS

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193290
Reality is irrelevant in the boardroom.

[Anonymous No.]

>Out of around 15-20 applications, only 1 called back, and I never got the job. ;_;
You're supposed to be calling them, not the other way around

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193112
You'll probably still need to work for entertainment or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193298
This man is correct. Calling your potential employers back after an interview is supposed to be a good show of initiative, or show that you really want the job.

Good luck, OP. I know it's rough out there in the job market right now, but persistence will pays off. Even a shitty job flipping burgers will add to your experience and make it easier to get hired the next time around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193327
I'm sure calling them and begging for a job will much endear me to someone's personnel department.

[Anonymous No.]

Here is a bro tip for my American bros. The Census Bureau is hiring temp workers for the upcoming census. Not very hard to get hired, and it will give you work experience for future jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193355
But that's exactly what you need to do. I got hired at the third place I applied to. The first 2 turned me down on the spot, the third one took my app and said they'd think about it. I called them back every single day after, and a week later they hired me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193294
It becomes bothersome when said companies start to create their modern equivalent of guilds and do monthly press releases how there are not enough qualified subjects on the market while their paid lobby groups continue to influence politics to convince them from their plans and that there is not an alternative.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193355
You don't have to beg. Stop being a pussy and trying to find reasons to convince yourself not to do it--it sucks if you're shy or socially awkward, but this is how the world works.

Just wait 5ish days after turning in an application or interviewing, then give them a call and ask to speak with HR or someone about possible employment opportunities. Say that you turned in your application recently and ask about the time frame in which they'll be hiring, and if/when they'd like you to come in for an interview. That's all you have to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193327
>Calling your potential employers back after an interview
>after an interview
>implying I ever got an interview

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193422
also applies to turning in applications, as >>4193373 and
>>4193408 said.

[Anonymous No.]

Orin sez: "After putting in an application, be sure to call the place after 2-3 days to 'check' on your application so it sets you apart from the other applicants!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193470
>read that post as '2-3 times a day'
>wasn't even vaguely surprised

[Anonymous No.]

I've had problems finding jobs too. Of course I don't apply to fast food places for all of the pathetic human interaction I would be forced to deal with. Going to start school again over the Spring or Summer

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193492
it should read 2 -3 times an hour.
Stalking is also a show of initiative.

[1st Duke of Trolls No.]

Oh I see the American unemployment rate aproaches our German standards.

Enjoy the aftermath of the economic crysis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193547
You shouldn't be picky when it comes to jobs. Like an anon up there said, even a shitty job at somewhere like Burger King can put you a great advantage when applying for a better job later. Experience is experience, and it gives you something to add to your resume.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193564
Actually, Germany has a 8.1% unemployment rate while the most comprehensive measures show that America has around 17.2%

[Anonymous No.]

Keep in mind that unemployment is high as fuck currently, If you live in a small time getting anything is going to be a bitch.

I live in a city with >10000 unemployed students looking for a part time job.

If its full time it might be harder?

[1st Duke of Trolls No.]

>>4193590

Those numbers don't include people who work for 1 euro per hour just to get additional support from the state.
Know your statistics.
Aditionally unemployment over here is in most cases a complete Game Over scenario for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193612
How does that work? Companies don't hire people with gaps in their employment history?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193612
Even then, I doubt Germany has a 1/5 unemployment rate.
What's the number ?

[Anonymous No.]

Those who usually work less than 35 hours per week are counted as part timers by the BLS.
That's funny, as by law you can't work more than 35 hours in my country.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193607
Students are probably working part-time so no.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193623
As a part-timer or full-timer?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193618
There are no valid numbers. But Germany is not as bad as the US which are said to be close to the 20% without any new jobs on the horizon for the coming years.

However because of the bailouts, the crisis and that Germany is being forced to pay the most for the rest of Europe they will have to follow quickly but no so much in the numbers but in more lower than low paying jobs that are only there to keep the masses off the streets

[Anonymous No.]

Join the military.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193649
>lower than low paying jobs that are only there to keep the masses off the streets

So Germany will go down to the level USA was on before the crisis?

[Anonymous No.]

>US unemployed is said to be close to the 20%
Well fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193655
>NEETs
>in the military
Apart from the shakiness of advising someone to go to the sandbox anyway...

[Anonymous No.]

It's simple.

You only need the following: internet, a closet to live in, electric, (maybe) a bathroom, and rice. You might not even need internet if you can just get wifi.

So, all you have to do is find someone to let you live in their closet and live on rice/ramen. It's very simple, very enjoyable, and allows you to be a NEET so long as your provider stays on their feet.

I see no reason that I should have to go outside and bear these frivilious contests when I can live comfortably like this.

[Anonymous No.]

Even temp work is gonna be way harder to find these days because now that the "Christmas Rush" is over a lot of places drop their temp workers.

(As a side note I worked the holiday season @ Game Stop- for fucks sake, faggot 12 year olds STILL call in and do the "battletoads" thing...)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193665
It's not like a NEET's life is worth much anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone from /jp/ in the culinary field or know where I should start with it? I've been told that you either wash dishes and do other shitty work at a restaurant for 10 years to finally get promoted to a chef or you go to culinary school. Not sure if those 10 years is worth it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193675
Maybe not to you, but to the NEET it damned well is.

[Anonymous No.]

too many ppl. worldwide population control since technology replaces ppl before their lifetime is over. it's fucking sad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193670
Wait, you live in someone's closet?

[NuBlackAnon !!z6ldXGL61Wm No.]

>>4193015
go to community college
then go to state college
then go to a proper college
then get money
then play touhou

[miles !!yEv/ZBcowB8 No.]

>Out of around 15-20 applications, only 1 called back, and I never got the job. ;_;
Did you call them to make sure they checked your application?
If you don't do that don't expect a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193697
Absolutely.

[Anonymous No.]

inb4 the /r9k/ holetroll

[Anonymous No.]

i have the same problem OP, and i dont call the employer because i hate to talk

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193704
Oh how I hated doing that when I was searching, it just feels so stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

I live of welfare, being a NEET was never this easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193618
If you count out the jobs the government pays additional money so the working people have enough money to exist out you get amongst the lines of 20%.
Thats a matter of fact.
We are fucked, but that's nothing new here. We are used to it.>>4193722

[Anonymous No.]

After being a NEET for a year, I decided "Fuck, I really need a new 32" LCD" so I called my friend from HS that ran a call centre and now I'm employed.

I now get to sit at a home office taking calls while watching animu all the time and getting paid for it. Feels good man.

[1st Duke of Trolls No.]

>>4193618
If you count out the jobs the government pays additional money so the working people have enough money to exist out you get amongst the lines of 20%.
Thats a matter of fact.
We are fucked, but that's nothing new here. We are used to it.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know what it's like where you live, OP, but around where I live you CANNOT trust your application form to make it to HR. According to rumors I heard the staff who worked at the places I was trying to apply for routinely threw received applications in the trash to prevent them being passed onto Recruitment to prevent their being competition for their jobs. I sent at least five applications to one place until I just gave up on it ever making it there.

The only way to get a job at places like that is to be friends with people already in the company.

[Anonymous No.]

Also, a tip to those searching, ask everyone you know if they have something or know someone who might do, that's the easiest and fastest way to get a job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193722
Sup David.
I expect you to pay a visit to my office tomorrow morning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193675
>>4193665
If the NEET comes out alive, chances are he's a changed man. You're forced to get into shape, you learn what it takes to survive, a greater appreciation for the simple things in your former life. You even get your school paid for you by the military and jobs are much much likelier to hire you above all else. Life is turned around 180 degrees.

[Anonymous No.]

You have had a long period of inactivity.
You might not have finished your education.
Competition is FIERCE.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193749
>go into Afghanistan as an anime-loving NEET
>come out of Afghanistan as a killing machine with PTSD

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193757
At least you served your country killing the filthy sand niggers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193757
>go into Afghanistan as an anime-loving NEET
>come out of Afghanistan as a killing machine that looks like a young girl

If only ;_;

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193770
Why should I give a fuck about my country?

[Anonymous No.]

Oh that reminds me. I fucking hate "connections". Of course I don't have anything like that and start from 0. But that's okay.
After around 40 applications I finally made it and someone accepted me. It was a boring office job, but hey, better than nothing.
Now here's the twist.
Three days before starting there I went there and first greeted everyone.There was this one guy who seemed to have trouble with his PC so pretty much everyone stood there in one place. Convenient. But it was a small office anyway. After knocking I entered his own little office thing and told him my name and that I'm the new guy.
He laughed at me, "Oh yeah, I hired the son of a friend of mine so we don't need anyone else."
>"Couldn't you have atleast called me?"
"Didn't I?"
>"No. I never got such a call."
"Hahaha, I forgot it then."
I stomped out there trying not to let the rage control me and give that fucker a taste of my fist.
Apparently the guy with the problem I mentioned earlier was said son of his friend and he didn't know how to boot up the PC.
I was so fucking mad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193785
And thus you are reminded what normalfags are like.

Shun them, shun them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193032

That's some catch there, that Catch-22

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193785
You should have made a huge mess out of his office space and then stormed out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193785
There's a lawsuit in there somewhere, discrimination acts and shit.

DO IT FAGGOT.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193408
Companies here don't want you to bother them whether they're going to hire you or not.

Seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193819
>implying he could ever prove it, or even afford the legal fees

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193817
And pay the little money I have left for vandalism?
I don't think that would have been worth it.

>>4193819
I'm living in Germany. Not the USA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193827
This.

Seriously, don't fucking annoying the guys who decide whether you get an interview or not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193015
Ahhh, my friend. You think thats bad? Try my country. Half the job offers are a scam in some way or another. Almost all the other half is job agencies that are practically playing with job applicants. Making them go through a lot of exhausting interviews to either give them the job(shitty job dont forget that) or crush their hopes. After all that trouble for a job, the salary is not enough to live a proper life. And the grass is not too greener on the other side. Normal "real" jobs are still bad, requiring you to work extra hours or get fired(there is no court for abused workers here). And getting lawsuit over them is only going to get you moneysucked(corrupt system) if you ever had money in the first place. The salary if somewhat better, still doesnt give you much and forces you with all its strength, to save and do some magic(own business, etc), to cover those "extra" expenses.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193827
>>4193843
I agree.

I would be fucking pissed if people called me everyday: "OMGZORZ DID U CHEK MA APLCASHUN"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193849
Sounds like the Philippines.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193851

What do you care what they think? They said they were looking, and if they get annoyed and DON'T hire you, fuck 'em, you wouldn't want to work there anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

Alright almost all of us people here are either NEETs or people with shitty jobs.
Isn't there anything we can do together? Making a huge ass company over the internet which could make money with nothing but people who take the responsibility with their names only?
And now don't ask me what kind of company that would be and what exactly it does. I'm asking you that.

[miles !!yEv/ZBcowB8 No.]

>>4193827
>>4193851
>>4193843
It shows interest at the very least and makes you stand out more, even if they are annoyed by it.
They should expect it to happen as well, people are taught in Highschool that you should call around 5 days after you apply to make sure they've reviewed your application.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193866
I care. And how I fucking care. I need them to think good of me. And being too aggressive may change that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193785

This is why corporations are havens for the inept. When I was working for a financial company we hired this stupid fat bitch in hopes that the company she was coming from would use our services. Turns out that company was probably just glad to be rid of her, cause she did absolutely NOTHING.

She called me into her office once and asked me what "Excel" was. This woman was supposed to be in an executive level position managing our data feeds. One day she has to go to the hospital for some emergency procedure and is gonna be out for a month or something.

Fast forward to a few weeks later, one of the programmer guys I'm friends with says "dude, have you noticed that there is literally NOTHING that isn't getting done because of ____'s absence?"

Ugh. At least there is some justice in the world, though, because she got laid off the same day as I did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193851
>>4193843

You really only need to call once to get the "initiative/genuine interest in the job" points. I've had friends and family members in management positions who said they'll literally throw away applications unless someone calls in about them.

Jesus Christ, no wonder steady employment seems like such a rarity in /jp/ if this is the stance you take.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193881
>people are taught in Highschool that you should call around 5 days after you apply to make sure they've reviewed your application.

Germanfag here. Never heard of that manner before.

[miles !!yEv/ZBcowB8 No.]

>>4193895
In my state you must go through a 1 year course in highschool that helps you learn taxes, money management, and how to find and apply for jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

What jobs are you applying for /jp/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193862
Try again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193888

Unless you're yelling at the top of your lungs demanding what's going on with your application, you should have no problem.

Besides, they are probably bored at work anyways...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193908
Mech pilot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193866
>they said they were looking
If you only apply at places that advertise looking for jobs not only will you be in competition with about a hundred people for every position, you will also only be able to apply for like three or four at a time.

Maybe during more peaceful economic times it would be feasible to only apply for advertised positions, but...

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193888
Don't think of it as being aggressive, bro--it's assertiveness more than anything else. Nobody who fields a check-in call is going to think "wow, this guy is such a pushy fucker. Like I really want him working in my store!" unless you're calling them twice a day demanding a job.

People will appreciate that you took the time to drop them a line about it, because honestly? It IS intimidating, and it IS awkward, but the fact that you had the guts to do it anyway is a good indicator of character.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193907
I had that almost three years long.
The first two years were called (translated of course): Economy/Management and then upgraded into Office Practice/Management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193920
You will just probably die as the useless side-character

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193908
Right now? British Army Officer. There's a vague chance i might get it. I'm long past the point of giving a shit anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

aren't there any non-combat roles in the military? like health care or something

[miles !!yEv/ZBcowB8 No.]

>>4193908
I'm employed as a donation attendant at a local Goodwill store.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193907
This is actually a really good idea. Wish my high school would've offered something like that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193908
Office Clerk whatever.
I give myself two more months and I'm so desperate that I'm going to flip some burgers.
Fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193941
>I'm so desperate that I'm going to flip some burgers.

I don't know why, but that kinda sounds awesome like that.
"YOU BETTER CUT THAT OUT OR I'M GOING TO FLIP SOME MOTHERFUCKING BURGERS!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193956
"NO DAD, NO!"

"IT RUBS THE BURGER ON ITS SKIN IT RUBS THE BURGER ON ITS SKIN IT RUBS THE BURGER ON ITS SKIN"

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193908
Danmaku Expert.

[Anonymous No.]

I know someone that used to have a job but now can't get one.
He got his job only because he was recommended by one of his friends.
For a long time he acted as though getting a job was the easiest thing to do and made it a point to point out at every opportunity that I didn't have one.
Funny that he didn't even bother trying to help me get a job like his friend helped him.
After screwing off hardcore he got fired and quickly realized that nobody would fucking hire him, and boy did he ever shut up quick about me getting a job.

Near 20% unemployment in america?
...Yeah, I can believe that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193941
If anything, those jobs ought to be the more difficult ones to get considering that they require the least amount of qualifications.

[Anonymous No.]

I fucked up once in an interview because I was so fucking tired.
"So what's special about you? What advantage can you bring us to our company?"
-"Oh I can 1cc every Touhou on Lunatic"
"Beg me pardon?"
-"Er, I mean... I'm good with computer...science."

Yeah you heard me right. I am good with computerscience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193982
Sense. You does not make it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193982
Yeah. I know.
But it's not like I could do anything else. And since I wasn't sure (and I'm still) what else I could do I went to the employment agency.
Fuck the employment agency here in Germany. And fuck the career counselling too.
I went there with the questions like "What else should I apply for? What is suitable for a guy like me?" and went out with none of these questions answered even slightly.
He drained almost 2 hours of my time just to say "GO AND SEARCH YOURSELF A JOB"
Thanks Sherlock.

[Anonymous No.]

Try working at a callcenter.
They'll hire just about everyone.

[Anonymous No.]

Used to work for my mom. Then some dick went through the company polices and found out managers aren't allowed to have their children as employees and had to quit.

Jobless ever since.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194017
I'm too shy to even talk to strangers over the phone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194017
My voice isn't suited for a callcenter job and due to me talking once in a week I mumble a bit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194027

Don't be. Worst case, they never call you back and... You never hear from them again. Life goes on.

Best case, you get hired, meet the person and become pals, or at least get hired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194017
DO NOT do this job
I've worked at two call centers and I hated myself

[Anonymous No.]

Do you happen to live in California?

[Anonymous No.]

Callcentres were the Devil's way of destroying a man's soul. They're not worth the money. Quite objectively, I've got paid more stacking shelves than i have in callcentres and telesales.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194035
>>4194029
>>4194027
This is why you don't call the office, do you?

PROTIP: Instead of JUST sending applications to people who are offering jobs, PHONE UP RANDOM COMPANIES and ask if there are any jobs available. THEN send applications to those companies who consider it.

PHONE FIRST, APP AFTER.

Spam as much applications as you can. Trust me, SOMEONE is bound to like you.

Eventually.

Probably. (I managed it after a couple of months, hey!)

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194061
>Callcentres were the Devil's way of destroying a man's soul.
That sounds... serious. Why is it so bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194061
Why is that? What is so bad about it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194078
"Hi, you want to buy this item and/or product."

"No I don't, fuck you."

"No- wait, don't hang up! Pleas-"
doooooooo

The ones you DO sell to are worse, you feel like you're scamming them. BECAUSE YOU USUALLY ARE.

[Anonymous No.]

Speaking as someone who worked as a government call center for a helpline for over half a year...

Its a pretty awesome temp job. No, really. Its amazing how easy it is.

All i had to do was answer calls on how to use a website.

Okay its not that easy because :

-You need to learn how to work the system, and in my case i did not have special access rights or anything, so the only things i could see was LESS than what the customer could see(since they had customer rights, and i didnt)

-You are eventually going to lose your patience with dumb fucks. I consider myself a VERY patietn person and i still lost my patience a couple of times. Good thing i didnt get fired though.

Honestly, i observed how things went for a couple of days, then was given my own PC and winge dit from there onwards. It took some time to get familiar with the system, but that was okay.

Hours were decent, pay was good too...$8 an hour. I spent most of my time surfing websites(couldnt surf 4chan though). Only busy itmes were when some servers went down and there were non stop calls from people bitching.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194078
To add to what the other guy said, they also have these evil contracts where they force you to work for them even if you don't wanna do business with them anymore. Be very, very careful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194090
Oh and i talk VERY little, but i had no problems talking with customers over the phone. Its honestly not hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4193015
OP, can you please respond of where you are living right now including your educational level? Maybe we can work something out, It might require you to leave your country though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194046
I do, why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194090
Helplines/User support are the good call centers. Other call centers will chip away at your soul like the Hellfire Demons they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194108

Holy crap... TC, do whatever this man says. If all my anime and manga were right, you're in for a trip of a lifetime.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194108
This won't end well for him, I can already see him selling heaters in Afghanistan

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194126
Or sold as spare body parts in the black market.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194108
>It might require you to leave your country though.
Have fun with the tangled nightmare that is work visas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194082
>>4194078
Dickheads. Unrelenting dark swarms of them. They don't care about you, they don't care about business they care only about how they can profit from it.

"Well no shit, right?" Yeah, right, no shit, of course they want what's best for themselves. At first you just shrug it off 'this job is hard i guess' and the like. Imagine picking up the phone every day and having to listen to about 2 minutes of passive aggressive whine and angst from some cunt who didn't get his product because you couldn't contact him to get payment for his product BECAUSE HE HAD GONE HOME EARLY. Is it his fault? Fuck no. It's your problem. Not the companies. YOUR problem, personally. Do the company hold themselves accountable? HA HA HA. FUCK NO! ヾ(￣∇￣=ﾉ☆

So while it's not some guy on the other end of the phone screaming his head off it's this horrible feeling of; you're fucking shit at your job, you're worthless to the company and to the world, you can't please any customers, why are we still paying you to be here? Oh and then the managers start breathing down your neck.

"Why aren't you making any calls? Your call time is too low." They only care about outgoing calls, so any incoming calls for orders/ people complaining and people needing help with stuff (you know, the stuff that actually takes time?) You don't get counted for, they don't care, fuck i've had small portions of my pay docked because i can't keep up with their standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194139
Yeah, the quotas are hell to meet. I'm never working in a call centre again. Fuck that noise.

[Anonymous No.]

Jobs are so stupid, what do you want to be admired or known for? Discovering the answer to a scientific mystery? Or bagging groceries?

See, jobs aren't a problem in towns that have a shitload of business and chain stores. Chain stores and corporations like Wal-Mart and Target are almost always hiring. They start you above Min. Wage and have plenty of positions open.

The problem is, small towns like mine has legislation that prevents those stores from coming in. For example my town wants to "preserve the tradition of the rural town" and denied a DQ and a Target from coming in. There is NOTHING here.

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>>4194159
>Fuck that noise

The one time someone uses this phrase in a way that actually makes sense.

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>>4194170
Heheh... Yeah. Well spotted.

[White Ren !YLuFFdRcFQ No.]

>>4194168
>They start you above Min. Wage

This is a lie, as my teenage years can attest to.

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>>4194168
Protip: Wal-Mart and other monopolists are bad for the economy.

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>The problem is, small towns like mine has legislation that prevents those stores from coming in. For example my town wants to "preserve the tradition of the rural town" and denied a DQ and a Target from coming in. There is NOTHING here.

Same shit here. I mean, if there would be alot of these cute little stores where you can chat with that old hag behind the counter while pondering between two apples and search for the one who looks more delicious and then you go into the next store which just happens to be around the corner and buy yourself some tasty looking vegetables, but yeah. That's a dream. I have to walk 40 minutes into the next village to buy myself some fucking bread. What the shit?!

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I'm amazed at how many people seem to think I'm some kind of recovering druggie/criminal when they see I've never had a job. When I meantion I'm not, they just go "Oh..." and I know they don't care anymore.

I think next time I'll just say yes. But then they'll probably try to look up my arrest record.

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>Protip: Wal-Mart and other monopolists are bad for the economy.

That is incorrect, biased liberal left-wing propaganda.

>This is a lie, as my teenage years can attest to

It really depends on where you live, if Wal-Mart is all there is, then yes they will pay just minimum. However in bigger towns with more competition the average wage can be $8-10 an hour.

[Anonymous No.]

goood niiiiight~

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>>4194109
I live there too. I've been looking for a job for at least a year now. Is California really the worst for finding jobs?

I don't have any experience, sure. But I am only 18, wait, 19 now. Where am I supposed to start?

I know for a fact that I know how to cook better than any chain restaurant (Olive Garden, or Chillys or some shit) "cook/chef."
You don't even have to know how to cook in places like that, all they do is warm the food up, at most.

I can't even get a server position in any of these places.

And now I'm at the end of my rope, I'm being kicked out of my parents house in little more than a week. With no job.

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>>4194230
>That is incorrect, biased liberal left-wing propaganda.
I am laughing out loud.

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>>4194230
>

It really depends on where you live, if Wal-Mart is all there is, then yes they will pay just minimum. However in bigger towns with more competition the average wage can be $8-10 an hour.
What planet do you live on where shelf stacking gets you anything higher than the minimum wage? Is it a high-demand low-supply industry on Mars?

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>>4194228
Your eyes are sunken a bit and dark, right?

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>That is incorrect, biased liberal left-wing propaganda.
>I am laughing out loud.

You should be.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-o1fj1rX7A
Watch this, then come back.

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>>4194135
We can do the government papers for you, It's not a big deal (We also cover all fees).

I got an assignment to lead a project to reach the japanese market, where I need about 2 people that are profient at least in English (Japanese is optional) and know about Japanese culture and help plan a Corp. Strategy.

If you are interrested send your application to
[e-mail]

Including a -honest- description about yourself, it's important that you explain that you are trustworthy, modest, honest, hard working and know how to deal with the japanese culture. Make the best out of it and don't mention me directly in it. Once we get your submission I will suggest you for the job and mail you back with your calculated salary.

And most importantly, you have to make the subject this: FHD400235 or else the email will be not redirected properly and will be instantly discarded.

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>>4194287

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>>4194273
>penn and teller

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>>4194273
Unfortunately I don't have half an hour to burn watching something I don't care about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194273
>penn and teller

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>>4194301
Suddenly, "".

Source?

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>>4194287
Before this becomes a reaction image dump, might I say how novel an idea it would be for others in a similar position of ever so slight power (admin, etc) if they could post vacancies up here.

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>>4194287

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>>4194329
Sola

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>>4194273
I lol'd hard

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>Unfortunately I don't have half an hour to burn watching something I don't care about.

Then keep your biased-ass opinions out of here.

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>>4194457
>any opinion that isn't my own is biased
Okay...

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>>4194457
Kind sir, I hope you're not insinuating that the related youtube video -isn't- biased.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm on the way to a PhD then a job in quantitative finance. You suck /jp/.

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>>4194498
>implying you will get a job when you graduate

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>Kind sir, I hope you're not insinuating that the related youtube video -isn't- biased

It's actually fairly balanced, and informative. Biased is trying to convince someone of something. Penn and Teller's goal is only to debunk media and social myths, not persuade a crowd for their personal benefit.

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>>4194509
>implying that I won't be ahead of you fat fucks regardless

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>>4194540
No, you won't. Unless you have a job lined up to drop into the moment you leave Uni, you're fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194540
>/jp/
>fat
hahahahhaa

fuck it, I should have joined the Navy

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194519
Uh, no. It's also biased but it's toward Wal Mart instead. Go ahead and try to guess how much Penn and Teller was paid off.

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>>4194046
A state down.
>>4194108
I live in the U.S., college dropout.

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>Uh, no. It's also biased but it's toward Wal Mart instead. Go ahead and try to guess how much Penn and Teller was paid off.

I really don't care. My point is, keep your misinformed opinions out of discussion. Don't think its correct just because its a mainstream argument that most teachers and left-wing people say.

[Anonymous No.]

lol College.

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>>4194287
I received 3 submissions, going to delete the post now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194624
Noooo, that was my only chance for a real job!

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>>4194287
you smell that? smells like the rotten stench of PHISH.

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>>4194588

[Posting mode: Reply !!ULT62lINQW9 No.]

>>4194656
Look on the archive, the contact data is still there...

http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/4193015#p4194287

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>>4194287
what were there?
Im just curious

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>>4194588

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>>4193015
Same deal here, I dropped out on my Ph.D exams and since 4 weeks I was just at home doing nothing. Not even sending applications. Im just too shy.

[Anonymous No.]

This thread makes me sad and happy at the same time. It reminds me I already have a job thanks to a few connections, and makes me sad because I will never get another job.

Also makes me think of Genshiken 2nd.

[Anonymous No.]

It's simple.

Work for the goverment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>4194738
Check the archives.

[Anonymous No.]

I got laid off, and theres too many people applying for each position for me to get a job easy these days.

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>>4195314
Government applications take forever to turn around. The selection process just to become a mailman took a little over a year.

Also, other government positions only hire from within the government, so you're hosed if you don't already have a government job or unless you can claim Veteran's Preference.

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>>4193015

Queen Kittan will give you jobs.

[Anonymous No.]

>*Is eligible for "you're a retard and can't work, so here's some money from the government*" plan

[Anonymous No.]

You could get a job if Queen Kittan sent you.

[Anonymous No.]

queen kittan sent me....