A little question to all you drawfag So, does one need a talent to be able to draw or you just have to work really hard to master drawing skill?

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Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:16:15 2010 No.4177574 [Reply] [Original]

A little question to all you drawfag
So, does one need a talent to be able to draw or you just have to work really hard to master drawing skill?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:16:15 2010 No.4177576 >>4177574 It's impossible to learn without the genetic parts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:17:15 2010 No.4177579 You might not end up as the next Da Vinci, but everyone can learn to draw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:18:15 2010 No.4177581 This thread gives me Dejavu inb4 243 replies

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:19:15 2010 No.4177583 >>4177574 You need to sage every thread you see on /jp/ while posting a relevant comment. Do this for about a week and your skills should reach level 10.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:22:15 2010 No.4177594 http://archive.easymodo.net/cgi-board.pl/jp/thread/4161522

Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:26:15 2010 No.4177613

The real difference between having talent for drawing and not is whether or not you drew much and developed the motor skills necessary as a child.

If you don't have drawing talent, there are a lot of exercises you can do daily to develop that talent. Get a sketchbook and fill it entirely with primitive shapes (i.e. draw circles one after another across the entire page). Exercises like this help develop your motor skills, teach yourself technique, and enable you to draw basic shapes quickly and accurately. After warming up, draw what you see. Keep it saved somewhere and reference it even if it looks horrible. You'll quickly learn what looks right and what doesn't.

In short, yes it does require a lot of work to develop and maintain talent. This is true for everything, not just art.

Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:28:15 2010 No.4177621
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Couldn't help but try...

I think while some people find it more difficult than others to draw well, imagination is most important. You could be an excellent sketcher but have no personality in your drawings which is simply quite dull. If you have a fantastic imagination, with practice and hard work you can do amazing work later on in life.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:29:15 2010 No.4177627 >>4177621 Wow, you got some mad skills there.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:29:15 2010 No.4177628 I can never understand the people who start with the eyes, but it might be an overall better way to do things... I'll switch to it to give it the good college try.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:31:15 2010 No.4177634 File: 77 KB, 783x1200, 01_184.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] In the end Talentless = you must double your effort

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:36:15 2010 No.4177657 >>4177634 what says that?

Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:40:15 2010 No.4177673

Having talent = Having the patience to observe. You can work on that skill by drawing from life. Spend like 5 minutes drawing a bottle or something. Then draw another one in 30 minutes. You will notice a huge difference. Pay attention to the contours and the way light falls on the subject.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:41:15 2010 No.4177679 File: 80 KB, 600x800, Image0038.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm still drawing from basics until I'm confident enough to draw without it.

Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:45:15 2010 No.4177699

> work really hard to master drawing skill

This. I study painting at a local university and I can assure you tenacity and perseverance is all you need to learn how to draw and paint.

Everyone who wants to learn how to paint or draw already has talent, if you didn't you wouldn't want to learn in the first place.

The key to learning how to paint or draw is quite simple :
You'll suck for quite a while, don't be afraid to make mistakes, don't be afraid to ask if you don't know something, read a lot of books on anatomy (Gottfried Bammes is what I would suggest).

DRAW FROM LIFE - drawing manga or painting abstract paintings it's all the same shit you have to draw from life to learn the basics and to aquire confidence.

Find a live drawing class near you a teacher when you're just beginning to learn is mandatory.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:49:15 2010 No.4177711 File: 56 KB, 560x400, akibakko-118059549978541.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] All this guy does is trace

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:50:15 2010 No.4177712 File: 59 KB, 704x396, 1185426958266.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4177711

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:54:15 2010 No.4177728 File: 11 KB, 191x192, post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hmmmmmmmm

Anonymous Tue Jan 19 10:57:15 2010 No.4177739

>>4177699 (continued)

The worst thing you can do is to copy manga or anime cells. You will never learn real art and you'll be stuck following a very unprofessional template. All you work is going to be stale and repetitive.

As I said before the key to learning how to draw is drawing from life, you might want draw manga - that's good, but YOU NEED to acquire the basic skill set first. It might not seem very logical to you now but believe even drawing vases and pots can help you with your figure drawing.

Never just paint or just draw, do both they're both absolutely obligatory for you to learn in a timely fashion.

I can go into a lot more detail I can write a fucking book on this even, but I'm kinda busy so I'm going to end this with a warning :

Art is hard to learn, even you if you have talent (hur dur) you'd still take a lot of time to learn it, it takes years to become a good artist and even more years on top of that to become a professional. Art isn't just a craft, it's science and you'll have to learn to use your brain in ways you never even imagined was possible before you started learning.

You're either going to become a good artist or not it depends on you.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 11:02:15 2010 No.4177765 Get out DotRSotB devs

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 11:10:15 2010 No.4177791 File: 35 KB, 512x384, colors_slot0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How's my talent?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 11:26:15 2010 No.4177881 Oh look, it's this thread again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 11:27:15 2010 No.4177886 File: 29 KB, 383x469, post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4177791 I took the liberty to make some minor corrections, nothing fancy, just little missing details.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 11:35:15 2010 No.4177925 >>4177574 Is this a joke? Drawing eyes should never be the first step.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 11:40:15 2010 No.4177951 >>4177621 Congratz, you are not one of the ones from the completely useless drawing genetics. Judging from that drawing, You can defiantly learn how to draw well if you practice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 11:46:15 2010 No.4177969 File: 67 KB, 282x322, 1263830009083.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >drawing genetics >implying drawing has anything to do with amino acids

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 11:49:15 2010 No.4177991 Can we have a proper drawthread instead of 100+ posts of level 0 trolling like last time?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 11:53:15 2010 No.4178017 File: 7 KB, 179x181, post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4177991 Sure, but I lack imagination, suggest something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 11:57:15 2010 No.4178042 >>4178017 Tank from Left 4 Dead giving flandre a flower.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 12:38:15 2010 No.4178317 File: 118 KB, 1189x702, post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4178042 Derp.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 12:41:15 2010 No.4178346 >>4178317 Draw Reimu smelling Suika's hair.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 12:42:15 2010 No.4178350 >>4177925 Not necesarily, when you are experienced you should be able to visualize your idea and you can imagine the construction. Search some drawing videos on Niconico, some use contruction, some don't. The end result depends more on the experience.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 12:44:15 2010 No.4178367 >>4177969 implying anything biological doesnt have a genetic factor to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 12:51:15 2010 No.4178425 Fuck yes, a revival of the drawthreads from a few months ago?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 12:53:15 2010 No.4178438 >>4178425 It hasn't been months ago. (It hasn't, right?)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 12:57:15 2010 No.4178473 File: 50 KB, 640x480, 1263505345337.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4177699 Everyone who wants to learn how to paint or draw already has talent, if you didn't you wouldn't want to learn in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 13:07:15 2010 No.4178560 File: 100 KB, 750x621, post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4178346 Derp.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 13:09:15 2010 No.4178579 >>4178560 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 13:20:15 2010 No.4178651 A drawing thread!! It must not die! I'll go do something right now!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 13:21:15 2010 No.4178661 >>4178651 Only that this is not a drawing thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 13:31:15 2010 No.4178728 Alright I'll draw something

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 13:34:22 2010 No.4178750 File: 25 KB, 326x487, post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4178661 This is now a game of pretend thread.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:03:15 2010 No.4178878 File: 91 KB, 883x737, post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How about something more surreal?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:15:15 2010 No.4178957 >>4178878 I have no idea what this is but it's kinda awesome

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:21:15 2010 No.4178991 File: 101 KB, 863x703, post.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4178878 100% more trippy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:23:15 2010 No.4178998 >>4178991 it was better before you colored it

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:33:15 2010 No.4179049 I don't know what to draw....

>>	Gregory House MD !N7PI7QjLMY Tue Jan 19 14:33:15 2010 No.4179050 File: 9 KB, 352x288, IMG000027.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's meant to be gender-bend Hanako from KS. Ignore the writing, my little sister has a tendency to recreate her shitty Mary Sues into my fanart.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:35:15 2010 No.4179060 >>4179049 Draw Komachi playing with Cirno.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:38:15 2010 No.4179088 File: 1.22 MB, 741x1173, bernkastel copy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I drawred Bern.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:40:15 2010 No.4179092 >>4179060 Playing what?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:42:15 2010 No.4179099 File: 98 KB, 867x536, drawing2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4178560 >>4178317 >>4178017 >>4177728 I recognize those, good to see your still contributing to /jp/ man

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:45:15 2010 No.4179120 I've never been good at drawing faces/heads starting with the eyes. I always draw the shape first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:46:15 2010 No.4179127 hey /jp/, should i draw the eyes first or the face?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:47:15 2010 No.4179133 >>4179120 usually thats what i do too. Thats what most people tell me to do. if you get into the habit of drawing eyes, your faces look funny.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:48:15 2010 No.4179136 >>4179127 I like to start with the face, gives a good base line to start with, and base the rest around

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 14:49:15 2010 No.4179141 >>4177574 Any chance we could get a friendly translation-san to translate this, for us lacking in the japanese department?

>>	Gregory House MD !N7PI7QjLMY Tue Jan 19 14:53:15 2010 No.4179165 >>4179136 That's what I do, but if I have to do action shots I'll draw the base body shape first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 15:00:15 2010 No.4179197 >>4179127 Definitely the face, when you like the shape then you can place the facial features.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 15:00:15 2010 No.4179200 In after people that cannot draw give drawing advice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 15:35:15 2010 No.4179394 File: 346 KB, 432x777, winter yuka.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Something really random I did some weeks ago.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:08:15 2010 No.4179542 >>4179502 Have I told you I love you yet today? I love you, man. Don't ever stop drawing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:14:15 2010 No.4179560 >>4179502 Wow, your anatomy sucks. As they'd say in /ic/, go read loomis.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:17:15 2010 No.4179579 >>4179127 Personally, I prefer the "head->body(pose)->face approach Then again, I suck, but that's due to an utter lack of practice

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:19:15 2010 No.4179592 >>4179394 I was wondering earlier toady why some artists depict Yuka as hating winter. She's the flower master of the four seasons, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:19:44 2010 No.4179589 Start a second thread.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:22:15 2010 No.4179609 mods

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:22:15 2010 No.4179610 >>4179589 Don't be a retard Filter imagespammer -> problem solved

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:24:15 2010 No.4179618 >>4179592 Still, there are a lot less flowers that bloom in winter. And I'd guess that there are almost none of them in a temperate place like Japan

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:28:15 2010 No.4179642 >>4179088 You tripfags are just getting stupider and stupider every day, aren't you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:28:15 2010 No.4179647 >>4179642 >"you tripfags" >quoting an anonymous post ...?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:29:15 2010 No.4179653 >>4179647 shut the f*k up tripfg

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:33:15 2010 No.4179676 >>4177574 Good grasp of concepts, good grasp of solid structure, and lots of hours poured into practice.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:33:15 2010 No.4179683 >>4177574 Anyway, the reason why gofu draws like that is because he's already visualized the 3d shapes in the drawing and puts the proper form and shading to give the hair that proper sense of volume.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:35:15 2010 No.4179693 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF2QuTncDPs

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:37:15 2010 No.4179707 >>4179683 >>4179676 This He's able to do it because he's advanced enough to skip steps because he already "sees" what he's going to draw. For those that are learning, it's best not to skip steps and do construction lines and so on first.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 16:55:15 2010 No.4179827 >>4179592 Hats are the power source of touhoes, etc etc.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 18:08:15 2010 No.4180253 >>4179827 So what about UFO characters? Kogasa, Nue, and Byakuren don't wear hats nor head accessories (gradient hair doesn't count).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 18:09:15 2010 No.4180260 File: 631 KB, 1219x812, gradientstats.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4180253 Wrong.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 18:19:15 2010 No.4180293 File: 8 KB, 231x251, 1263667338010s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Can someone repost the larger version of this image from an earlier thread?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 18:28:15 2010 No.4180324 >>4180293 No

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 18:29:15 2010 No.4180327 when it comes to drawing everyone has about 100,000 bad drawings in them. the trick to getting good is to get those out of the way first

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 18:37:15 2010 No.4180367 Drawfag requests!? How about Sanae playing the air guitar with her staff?!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 18:49:15 2010 No.4180427 >>4180363 Thanks.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 18:57:15 2010 No.4180451 >>4180367 Sanae has a staff now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 18:58:15 2010 No.4180453 >>4180451 He probably means one of those sticks with the paper.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 18:58:15 2010 No.4180456 >>4180451 A gohei is like a tiny staff with streamers tied to it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:02:15 2010 No.4180479 http://www.mediafire.com/?gm5zqmamwrx

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:06:15 2010 No.4180494 >>4180456 It's a stick

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:06:15 2010 No.4180497 File: 417 KB, 979x1200, somejpchar.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] who dis chik is?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:07:15 2010 No.4180502 >>4180253 Now they hold stuff in their hands, all of them. Hats are so old fashioned.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:07:15 2010 No.4180507 /r/ Sakura Kinomoto loading salt onto White Base restrained by Giant Suika.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:08:15 2010 No.4180510 As far as real staves go, Sanae seems more like a cleric than a mage. draw her with a mace beating the shit out of fairies

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:11:15 2010 No.4180525 >>4180497 Man, why do I see Yuuka everywhere?! Not like it's a bad thing or anything but, geez.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:12:15 2010 No.4180530 >>4180525 It was my attempt at OP girl without any knowledge of who dis chik is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:12:15 2010 No.4180532 >>4180510 How about she's just a Miko, because you know, she's a Miko

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:27:15 2010 No.4180647 >>4180530 ....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:29:15 2010 No.4180658 >>4180647 what? is she from touhou or something? in that case i play touhou but don't really give a fuck about the characters

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:32:15 2010 No.4180682 >>4180532 That's boring. I have tons of miko Sanae pictures but no cleric Sanae pictures.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:33:15 2010 No.4180687 >>4177621 Rule #1: Don't draw with your mouse, or MS paint, or even MSpaint AND a mouse.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:36:15 2010 No.4180706 Drawfag request: Draw Suwako and Kuuga teaming up, thumbs up or something. Alternatively: Byakuren doing CHOU HENSHIN! (get the joke?)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:39:15 2010 No.4180725 File: 191 KB, 800x800, Yuka Kazami.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>4180525 Here, another Yuka. Maybe its because of Youkai Moe. To be honest, I think maybe her design is just a bit easier to draw.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 19:42:15 2010 No.4180748 >>4180658 ....

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 21:14:15 2010 No.4181420 File: 62 KB, 800x1000, Renko.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Even if it sucks...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 21:27:15 2010 No.4181502 >>4181420 You're still cool SAI, don't worry about it.

(☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞ ANONYMOUS ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) !Jones4ZrPA Tue Jan 19 21:41:15 2010 No.4181590

I like it.
Don't feel as though you should be deleting your artwork simply because someone else doesn't like it.

Even if the proportions are off, it takes quite a bit of talent and effort to draw such pleasant to the eye figures.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 23:53:15 2010 No.4182346 Bumping for a revival.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jan 19 23:57:15 2010 No.4182367 File: 78 KB, 1360x768, kanna.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] First decent drawing I've done in a while. Some DeathSmiles since I should get it in the mail tomorrow hopefully. There's more but I don't feel like pasting together the rest.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 00:01:15 2010 No.4182399 >>4181420 Your artwork is great, SAI, don't worry about it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 00:14:15 2010 No.4182472 >>4177574 you can answer that to yourself since you have the choice to, there are tons of methods, styles and models to choose from at your disposal, as long as you keep in mind the motivation to draw

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 04:01:25 2010 No.4183507 File: 23 KB, 201x203, girl_laughing.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >they are still drawing cartoons

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 09:38:15 2010 No.4184938 Morning bump.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 11:37:15 2010 No.4185307 Huh, this thread is still alive, and finally spam free. Morning bump.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 11:46:15 2010 No.4185329 I haven't seen Zange in ages. Did he abandon us?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 20 16:29:15 2010 No.4186877 >>4180706 I don't get the joke. But I want to draw Touhou henshin. ): Halp.

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